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[quote name='Matt Young']So you guys won an amateur banner?[/QUOTE]

That we did, I'm sure someone can give more details later but I'm off to bed. Suffice to say it was awesome!
 
Yup, we did it! Crazy games last night. We tried playing a two man team in our first game, and needed to score 8 goals to keep their AI at bay. We kept giving our goalie one goal leads and he kept blowing them. Finally, we pulled ahead by 3 goals, and then went back and forth with them right up to the end. That one game had 13 goals. Our next three games would only have 14.

Our second game was a close 3-2 game against a five man team. We outplayed them, but we took a lot of penalties and really limited our scoring chances. Fortunately, we pulled it out.

After not being able to find a suitable team to play for about 30 minutes (including somehow getting matched up with an Elite team) and having multiple system freezes when people would back out (I froze up twice in like minutes), we finally found a team to play our third game against...and we crushed them. This game was never close as we outplayed them the entire time and ended up winning 5-1.

Right after that, we found our final opponent rather quickly. They were a four man team with the worst record we had seen all night (something like 14-43). We took a 2-0 lead in the 1st period, but couldn't score after that. They made the score 2-1 in the 2nd, and that's how we played into the 3rd period. With about 3-4 minutes left in the 3rd, Gary got a massive lag spike and got dropped from the game. We tightened up our defense and basically played the last couple minutes like a penalty kill.

And finally, victory was ours. No special presentation after the game for winning a banner, but if you look at the club status, it says "Playoff Champs". Also, in the club news & events, it says "Club Has Won the Division 3 Playoffs". And of course, there will be the banner presentation before home games next month. Winning an Amateur banner isn't the biggest accomplishment ever, but it's definitely a testament to how far this team has come, considering we started as a team in NHL 09 that used a camera angle that made it so we couldn't even see to pass to the point, didn't know how to play defense, and complained about cross creases.

I think we all had very strong moments during the four game run, but if I had to name an MVP, I think I'd give it to Rob. He had 2 goals in every game. I had a hat trick in the first game, Brandon had a hat trick in the third game, Gary and Alan both had goals, but Rob was consistent with his scoring. I think everybody played solid though, and we wouldn't have won without everyone on the team owning his position. Everybody contributed. Now, we can set our sights on the Pro playoffs in April!
 
Gary and Alan were rock solid on D, I think that was the biggest key to our run. I don't recall a time when the other team got behind them at all. Having D who know their position, take away scoring chances and know what to do with the puck when they have it is so huge. I think we only gave up 9 shots in that last game, which is amazing. Also in that last game, we were amazing on the forecheck, that really led to some great scoring changes, and kept them from getting their offense set up.

Also Nate, please use my board humping pic for my player card haha, thanks!
 
It's is an amazing feat honestly for us. Like Nate said, we have come a LONG way since the days of non stop penalties, fighting, Flying V, pack it in and other plays.

Everybody on the team scored last night which is just awesome for a playoff run (Hell I might even update my profile with my buttrocket goal!) It might just be an amateur play off banner, but we digged deep inside our selves and got 4 wins in a row. No downplaying we won a banner no matter if it was Amateur or not, WE WON A BANNER!!

I think Everybody deserves one of these from last night, but Rob did shine last night. So, I'm giving out Awards! If you don't agree with them, let me know! lol


Lady Byng Memorial Trophy
Awarded to the player who exhibited outstanding sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct combined with a high standard of playing ability.
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James Norris Trophy
awarded annually to the Nation Hockey Leaguehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hockey_League's top defense player who demonstrates throughout the season the greatest all-round ability in the position
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Calder Memorial Trophy
Awarded to the league's most outstanding rookie playerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Hockey_League_awards#cite_note-10
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Conn Smythe Trophy
Awarded to the most valuable player for his team in the playoffshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Hockey_League_awards#cite_note-13
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Frank J. Selke Trophy
Awarded to the forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game
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Bill Masterton Memorial
Awarded to the player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to ice hockey.
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Also Rob, you deserve the last Playoff game winning puck! Here ya go buddy!

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I couldn't think of a trophy for Sean, maybe somebody can pick one out. I'm sick and throwing up and just threw this together quickly as you can tell.

Now onto the Pro Banner!
 
Oh yeah! I got the Lady Byng for my "gentlemanly conduct". I like the sound of that! Hmm...maybe I should have been the one humping the boards. :)
 
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Also, thanks Nate and Gary for the kind words. Kind of funny that I couldn't get a hat trick in any of those games to save my life lol.
 
T'was a solid effort all around. Rob did a majority of the scoring, Nate did his job in the circle, Brandon doesn't even know his own strength and gave stick manufacturers more business :p, and Gary and I held down the fort.

Things looked bleak when we took all those penalties in the second game, but we managed to only give up one throughout like 2 5-on-3's and 2 5-on-4's.

Matt, didn't ya hear? I only have one name. Like Ronaldinho or Kaka.
 
[quote name='moojuice']T'was a solid effort all around. Rob did a majority of the scoring, Nate did his job in the circle, Brandon doesn't even know his own strength and gave stick manufacturers more business :p, and Gary and I held down the fort.

Things looked bleak when we took all those penalties in the second game, but we managed to only give up one throughout like 2 5-on-3's and 2 5-on-4's.

Matt, didn't ya hear? I only have one name. Like Ronaldinho or Kaka.[/QUOTE]

I would have loved to see our PK % throughout the four games, I thought we were amazing down a man or two.
 
I always knew you had no last name, and even if you did, I wouldn't want to know it since it would take away from your sexy mystique. You should maybe even consider just using a symbol to represent your name. But if for some reason you ever need a last name, like to forge a passport or something, you should go with "Ismorrisette".

The preceding idea will be forgotten by the time I click on the next topic.
 
[quote name='moojuice']Things looked bleak when we took all those penalties in the second game, but we managed to only give up one throughout like 2 5-on-3's and 2 5-on-4's.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='jza1218']I would have loved to see our PK % throughout the four games, I thought we were amazing down a man or two.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, we did a good job not letting things get away from us. I've said it a lot, but I think the easiest way to have success in this game (especially against the better teams) is to play smart enough that you don't make the first mistake. The games are essentially staring contests, and if you blink first, chances are you're going to lose.

Maybe there's a game here and there where your goalie lets you down, but usually they are decided by defensive lapses (puck chasing, missing a big hit and leaving a 2-0 break, not covering the point, taking bad penalties, etc). A lot of teams we run into have no clue how to play defense and we light them up because of it. It wasn't long ago that we were one of those teams. If we keep improving on that, we'll just get better and better. I'd like to see some of the "non-playoff regulars" reach that level of play.
 
On the heels of the CAG team's first ever Championship banner, here are the stats for the month of March. Anyone who wants to see the first unveiling of our banner should play tomorrow night. It should be available after midnight when the records reset for April. Can't wait to see it!

March 2011 Stats

Also, individual player cards have been updated in the OP. So check those out too!
 
Man, I didn't realize how much my give/take had improved. I knew it had gotten better, but I was just shy of a 1:1 ratio. I'm very happy about that.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Man, I didn't realize how much my give/take had improved. I knew it had gotten better, but I was just shy of a 1:1 ratio. I'm very happy about that.[/QUOTE]

Ehh...not to piss in your Cornflakes, but your boosting games are a part of that stat too. Notice most everybody elses give/take got worse (everybody was over a 1 this month). Your actual give/take has improved, but you really gotta work on where you go with the puck off the faceoff.

Last night, you kept setting Alan up to get destroyed when you fed it to him up the boards. It got kinda predictable. And on faceoffs on the left side in the offensive zone, I noticed your first movement was back. I get that you're doing it so you don't get beat down the ice, but it makes it next to impossible for me to win the faceoff to you.

What SHOULD be happening there is you stay put until the puck gets to you and the RD's first movement is back to cover in case the other team gets the puck. Unless the opposing team is charging and raping on every faceoff, I'm generally going to try to win it toward the slot. Just a couple things to keep in mind for next month. The skills are definitely there to play well. Now you just gotta see the play in front of you and know what to do with it.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Ehh...not to piss in your Cornflakes, but your boosting games are a part of that stat too. Notice most everybody elses give/take got worse (everybody was over a 1 this month). Your actual give/take has improved, but you really gotta work on where you go with the puck off the faceoff.

Last night, you kept setting Alan up to get destroyed when you fed it to him up the boards. It got kinda predictable. And on faceoffs on the left side in the offensive zone, I noticed your first movement was back. I get that you're doing it so you don't get beat down the ice, but it makes it next to impossible for me to win the faceoff to you.

What SHOULD be happening there is you stay put until the puck gets to you and the RD's first movement is back to cover in case the other team gets the puck. Unless the opposing team is charging and raping on every faceoff, I'm generally going to try to win it toward the slot. Just a couple things to keep in mind for next month. The skills are definitely there to play well. Now you just gotta see the play in front of you and know what to do with it.[/QUOTE]

If what you said about boosting games is true, then where are my goals? That can't be accurate. You've also said before that these stats are only for club games and don't count private matches or drop-ins, so what's the deal?

When Alan said to stop passing it to him so often, I did, so I took the advice. I will continue to vary my passes in order to improve on that in the future, since I have been so bad about it before.

I'll make sure to follow your advice on the faceoffs, but Gary needs to be able to cover. He doesn't usually drop back in those situations. In the final game last night, he was literally going behind the net during faceoffs in our zone, taking the puck away from me, and then going up the left side, leaving the right side wide open and allowing them to score 2 more goals. That was frustrating, and I sent him a message about it last night.
 
Yup, I performed horribly last night....:facepalm: If I take the puck to the left, don't you think you'd hop to the right? I mean, there is a reason why we won a banner, because Alan knows "Hey, Gary is going to the left, I'll cover the right". I mean, you just go and take over the other persons position in that matter. Not that hard of a thing to do. I don't know what it is, but I work great with a lot of d-men and being D is sorta my specialty position in this game, but we just don't click on D for some reason Matt. I don't know what it is. I sometimes have no idea what your doing or what your thinking. I mean, like when you get the puck in the other teams zone and shoot a wrist shot. Shoot the motherfucker like there is no tomorrow cause ten out of ten times I will drop back to cover our zone. I mean, don't really know what else to say. But yeah, I caused two goals last night. I can admit to it. Shit happens and you get bad breaks and you just have to own up to it. I will own up to things 9 times out of 10. Sometimes that 1 time is because I have a lag spike or some sort of lag. So yeah.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']If what you said about boosting games is true, then where are my goals? That can't be accurate. You've also said before that these stats are only for club games and don't count private matches or drop-ins, so what's the deal?[/QUOTE]

It's not like this hasn't been in the OP since September when I started tracking stats...
Sortable Player Stats
*stats for FO%, OFF, Give and Take may be skewed due to the inclusion of drop-in games toward your total
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And this is from December
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']All right, they're long overdue. But I got the stats for December completed before the new year hit. Bear in mind, some of them are way out of whack this month due to boosting games to get people their Legend cards.[/QUOTE]

I'd rather the stats be for club games only since those are really the only games we care about. But those stats aren't visible from a "club only" screen. I like that you're at the point of questioning whether I know what I'm talking about though.

[quote name='Matt Young']When Alan said to stop passing it to him so often, I did, so I took the advice. I will continue to vary my passes in order to improve on that in the future, since I have been so bad about it before.

I'll make sure to follow your advice on the faceoffs, but Gary needs to be able to cover. He doesn't usually drop back in those situations. In the final game last night, he was literally going behind the net during faceoffs in our zone, taking the puck away from me, and then going up the left side, leaving the right side wide open and allowing them to score 2 more goals. That was frustrating, and I sent him a message about it last night.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but Alan had to tell you to stop giving it to him when there was a guy right in front of him ready to pounce on him. You weren't seeing that on your own. That's the problem. You also made some comment like "If I hold onto it too long, I'll get it taken away." But skating straight ahead isn't the only way to move the puck up the ice. There are so many things you can do in that situation. You can circle back and skate toward the right. You can pass the puck to the RD (if he's open). You can bounce one off the right boards to the RW. And if you're feeling real ballsy, you can send the puck up the middle to the center. But none of this should be done automatically. You have to read the ice, see where the defenders are, and make the play.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']
Yeah, but Alan had to tell you to stop giving it to him when there was a guy right in front of him ready to pounce on him. You weren't seeing that on your own. That's the problem. You also made some comment like "If I hold onto it too long, I'll get it taken away." But skating straight ahead isn't the only way to move the puck up the ice. There are so many things you can do in that situation. You can circle back and skate toward the right. You can pass the puck to the RD (if he's open). You can bounce one off the right boards to the RW. And if you're feeling real ballsy, you can send the puck up the middle to the center. But none of this should be done automatically. You have to read the ice, see where the defenders are, and make the play.[/QUOTE]

See, if your wondering why I'm holding the puck for a couple seconds or wondering why I skate backwards with the puck, this is why. If I see people going towards the RW, I'll pass it to the LW or center. You have to be able to be two steps forward when reading the ice which is what I try to be, but when I have nobody to back me up, it's really hard to see a play open in front of me.
 
Nate, I hadn't read the OP in a long, long time, so my mistake there. I'll do what you said, but I've been criticized in the past when I've done that and then a speedier player took the puck away, and I was told that I need to get rid of it more quickly. Perhaps I should just do what feels right at the time; still taking what others tell me in game under consideration but not always doing exactly what someone else calls out in every single instance.

Gary, with the first and last parts of your post on the last page, I'm not sure what you really mean. The :facepalm: seemed sarcastic and thus would conflict with your statement at the end of the post, but maybe I read it wrong. You're right that we don't have the greatest chemistry on D. I'm much better with Alan on D. Not blaming you for the chemistry issues; it's an equal partnership. Alan and I just seem to anticipate each other's movements better. I understand the concept of switching sides, but it makes no sense to me when a faceoff goes directly back to me and you rush over, and go behind the net to snatch up the puck when I could receive it without having to move much and you could be open for a pass or ready to cover the right side if the other team gains possession. Just different philosophies, I reckon.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Perhaps I should just do what feels right at the time; still taking what others tell me in game under consideration but not always doing exactly what someone else calls out in every single instance.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this completely. Trying to listen to one person telling you to go and another person telling you to stop can make you second guess everything you do. I don't think anyone is telling you to do things in specific situations, but more just trying to point things out that you maybe haven't thought about or just aren't seeing.

The most simplistic advice anyone could give is "play smart hockey". There's not going to be a right answer every single time. But if you expand your repertoire of skills and the plays that you feel comfortable making (ie. flip dumps, bounce pass off boards, slapshot around boards, circling back and changing directions, board play to avoid a hit, etc), you'll be better suited to handle what the good teams throw at you. But yeah, it's going to be up to you to see when to use those skills.
 
If your talking bout in our defensive zone, with the one faceoff type on the right side. I always go to the other side of the net cause Nate will win that faceoff and throw it back to me almost all the time. It's how it's been but maybe you weren't informed. Not really sure what other faceoff your talking about.
 
In the situation where I told you to stop passing it to me, I told you that because it was happening for more than one game, so I had to tell you in order to stop it from happening. I know my voice doesn't always transmit over Live that well, but I did say something along the lines of "You gotta stop giving me the puck when I'm covered like that," meaning when their dman is right next to me, don't pass the puck to me. It doesn't mean don't pass it to me at all off the faceoff, which happened (as in you stopped passing the puck to me off the faceoff, period, even if I was the most open man) . Though that particular occurrence was situation specific, it really applies to any situation in any game when you have the puck. If someone is covered, they shouldn't be receiving a pass.

Or, take Gary's advice regarding slapshots vs wristshots. Yes, he is saying you should blast the puck, but you also have to realize that you have to do it in the appropriate situations. When you aren't being pressured, and have the time wind up for a slap shot and shoot it, then do it. If not, then get a wrister off.

Really, all I'm saying is to apply our advice to your game as a whole not just "Oh, someone told me to do this, so I'm going to do it every single time."
 
Gary, I meant faceoffs on the left side of the screen in the defensive zone. when I am directly behind center and you are to the right. You'd go behind the net and pretty much skate directly into me when I was able to cleanly pick up the puck, so not what you're talking about.
 
I did that cause I told you to pass it to me so we could get the breakout play going. Usually when we have a play like that,the LD will throw me the puck so then Brendan and I can break out of the gates really fast and be up in the other teams zone a lot faster. Since they don't expect us to beat them up there.
 
You're clearly not understanding what I am saying. You are going behind the net when you are in front of the net to begin with. I cannot pass you the puck because you are circling around behind the net and picking ti up before I even gain possession of it.
 
Exactly.

In the situation to which I am referring, the net is to the right of our center: Nate. I am below Nate on the screen. You are to the right of Nate, and above the net. You went toward the right side of the screen slightly, then down, then behind the net and headed left to the position which I was in when the puck was dropped on those faceoffs.

I am not referring to the one time when you told me to pass it up the boards to you when you rushed up the right side. I understand how that works, even though I fucked up the pass attempt. This has nothing to do with what you were talking about.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Exactly.

In the situation to which I am referring, the net is to the right of our center: Nate. I am below Nate on the screen. You are to the right of Nate, and above the net. You went toward the right side of the screen slightly, then down, then behind the net and headed left to the position which I was in when the puck was dropped on those faceoffs.

I am not referring to the one time when you told me to pass it up the boards to you when you rushed up the right side. I understand how that works, even though I fucked up the pass attempt. This has nothing to do with what you were talking about.[/QUOTE]
I'm, trying to picture this in my head, but I don't really see the issue here...

It sounds as if he has time to go all the way around the net after a faceoff to where you initially were set up, and pick up the puck on a faceoff won to you, it sounds like you didn't get possession of the puck to begin with. In that scenario, if he picks up the loose puck on the left side, then you should slide over to the right. As for him not falling back and covering you, well, if the puck is already behind the net, there isn't much room to fall back and cover to begin with.

Again, this is what I see when I try to picture it in my head. It would be a lot easier to talk about upon actually seeing it.
 
Gary, why are you being a sarcastic asshole? Why is it that everyone can criticize my play, yet you and Nate apparently have such thin skin that you take everything personally? And if you're referencing my talk about my controller messing up, that was a month and a half ago and since then, I've made sure to try to call myself out for mistakes I've made during games.

For example, in response to a simple message on Xbox Live regarding Nate not responding to me about playing an MLB 2K11 game during a time when I thought he might still be available, he called me a "little prick" and actually went out of his way to remove me from his Facebook friend list. I just didn't expect such a drastic overreaction to something regarding a video game. I thought I knew Nate better than that. Maybe he was just having a bad day. Hopefully, he'll get over it and we can talk about it like grown ups. This shit is stupid.
 
Nice work on the player names, by the way. It's good to know that, in addition to Nate's anger issues (at least he's forthcoming about his views) and Gary's sarcasm, the rest of the team feels the need to mock me even while they act as though they are my friends and had absolutely nothing to do with any of this conflict. I didn't expect that from Rob or Brandon.

Apparently, the talk about everyone being open to criticism and not taking hockey stuff personally really translates to, "We can criticize you and expect you to take it, but if you disagree with us or criticize our play in any way, we'll passive-aggressively insult you and insult you like a 4th grader." You guys are grown men- most of you older than me. Why take that stance? Most of us have had disagreements, but we've been able to talk them out and I've always been open to doing so. Sean and I had by far the biggest issues of anyone team regulars, and we sorted those out. With Nate and Gary, we've each shared very personal details and helped each other out- Nate with my issues with my dad, and me to Gary when he's had drama with his wife and emotional problems (the latter of which I have experienced plenty of myself).

This is the kind of bullshit I try to avoid, especially on the internet, and I know each and every one of you is better than that. You're all good people from what I have known of you, and I've considered each of you to be friends. I still do, but I'm certainly not getting that vibe from you. I don't get why other people can't simply talk things out when they have problems, but as always, I am open to doing just that.
 
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I could actually see what you're talking about, but I have no idea what your talking about with the faceoffs. I mean honestly, your a good person Matt, but your coming off weird lately. I can own up when I make a shitty play as with most of us can. How ever, when you play you don't seem to own up to lost goals or plays or anythig. It's sorta just excuse after excuse. I mean, I own up when I know I messed up. I just don't understand this whole faceoff thing. I need to see a video or something of how I was doing it cause I don't understand it. I mean, I think I just got tired of excuses really. I'm just at a loss for words honestly of what to say. I might becoming off as an Sarcastic asshole, but I mean, we have all grown up with this game and know how to play it now but it seems to me as if it's eluding you and how to play...loss of words honestly.

Edit: Matt, they are just names. If somebody made fun of my name, I'd just take it in stride.
 
Matt,

At three in the morning, the name Stat Shung sounds hilarious. Especially when your forward line sounds like a limerick from a Dr. Seuss book. If you named your player Stat's Nutz, I'd probably find it funny. Don't take it so seriously. If it bothers you that much, I'll change it next time I'm on.

I've avoided writing about this topic because it's uncomfortable and frankly, it's like being put in the middle. But if you want to talk, by all means let's talk. Part of the perceived problem is that when you do something (or don't do something in some cases) there's always a reason why. Case in point, your reluctance to take slap shots from the point. Wrist shots from the point, especially off the faceoff, are a low percentage shot, and are more likely to be knocked down and turned the other way. Yet you continue to take the wrister. Why, I don't know.

This thing with Gary, no one knows what you're talking about. I spent 5 minutes last night trying to visualize what you're talking about, and still have no clue as to what you mean. And I'm not the only one. Yet you continued to press it, so it sort of became a little ridiculous.

Your complaint about Nate and MLB 2k11 is just silly, I'm sorry. We had just started a game when you sent your first message, and not even a few minutes later you sent him another message saying I guess not, knowing full well that we were going to start playing NHL around 1130 or midnight. I think Nate even mentioned about being able to play around 10 PM, yet you make it sound like he went out of his way to avoid you, which isn't fair to him.

It's nothing personal, I like you and think you're a funny guy. Just, I don't know, internalize things for a bit. Take the time to internalize things. Like Alan's post above, where he told you stop passing the puck to him in a specific situation, so you stopped passing it to him altogether. How does that make sense?

I hope you don't think I'm picking on you or making this personal. I'm not. Nor do I think I'm immune to criticism. If something is wrong with my game, I want to know so I can fix it. And I've been told about certain things in game that I'm doing wrong, like holding onto the puck too long. And have made it a point to curtail that. I explained my thinking, but realized that it was a detriment to the team if I held onto the puck too long and turned it over without shooting or passing.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Matt,

At three in the morning, the name Stat Shung sounds hilarious. Especially when your forward line sounds like a limerick from a Dr. Seuss book. If you named your player Stat's Nutz, I'd probably find it funny. Don't take it so seriously. If it bothers you that much, I'll change it next time I'm on.[/QUOTE]

This is they way I feel as well. The names are nothing personal. You know how much we mess around with the chat in the locker room. Cat Flung was just something I found hilarious playing around in the locker room. It wasn't a personal attack and I was going to change it when I signed on today anyways.
 
As for the faceoff thing with Gary, I guess I'll just have to show you guys in practice or something. the name thing wouldn't bother me if not for the malicious words from Nate and Gary's general attitude. Gary is making sarcastic excuses for his play, yet calling me out for making excuses for mine. I haven't even been making any excuses. I've been owning up to all my mistakes when I see them ever since you guys mentioned that. Unless you want to count what I said about not having anywhere else to pas it to with Alan... that was just how it was. I've tried holding onto it looking for another pass and either got criticized, lost the puck and gave up a goal, or both. There's no right answer, it seems.

Also, Nate was on NHL but had not started a game. he said he'd be available starting at 10, but not only at 10, and I thought 40 minutes would have been enough time for a baseball game before midnight. In fact, I know it would have been enough time for a 9 inning online game. But that's beside the point now, I guess.
 
[quote name='SeanAmI']I like turtles.[/QUOTE]

TURTLE POWER

Marlene- the receptionist at my doctor's office- has somewhere around 20 turtle statuettes of varying sizes and colors lining her desk. When I went to my appointment on Monday, I made reference to the video of the "I like turtles" kid. She'd never seen it before. She said she uses YouTube quite often when, so that was quite an unusual thing to hear.
 
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