Official NHL 16 Discussion/CAG Team Thread - EASHL Is Back! Join The Hershey Nuggets!

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Actually, you know what, I'll say this right now...if they get legitimate custom music back into the game, I'll give them a free pass on everything else. I'd probably actually play through an offline season if I could get Nashville's real arena music in the game. But if it's just "pick a goal song from our boring shitty soundtrack", then they can eat all of the dicks.

And are they actually listing "Coach's Feedback" as a feature. "Hey enforcer....do a between the legs deke". Stop it, EA. Just stop it.

Also, I can't believe they're using "Synergy" as though it is a real thing. "Synergy" has almost always been a synonym for horseshit.

ECHL and Arena Creator seem to be the most worthwhile legitimately new features. I just can't praise EA for bringing back stuff that they had in previous games that got taken out for no reason.

 
ECHL is so huge for me. Florida Everblades and the Orlando Solar Bears (I'm excited just for this ONE team alone) is just so awesome. I just hope they fucking work on face scans, because that's always pathetic and I hope they actually do the arenas proud. Like the Solar Bears come out of a big solar bear and occasionally have Blue Nets for Geico. I hope they don't fuck it up but it's EA. So I shouldn't have THAT much hope.
 
ECHL would have excited me when the Ontario Reign were still a part of that league. Now they're AHL, so it's hard for me to care. At least it might make offline BAP a little less boring.
 
Yep, so far the ECHL for the Eagles is the best thing about 17 so far.  Which scares the shit out of me.  The customization sounds cool but they will probably fuck it up.

 
Gary's mentioned this before, but they need to bring back the crazy equipment for EASHL that they had in NHL 09. The camo helmet, dragon skins, etc. It was fun to be able to stand out.

I don't know if that's what any of the unlockable stuff will be. But it would be nice.
 
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So, Rocket League on XB1 tonight anybody? I decided to take advantage of the free weekend, and I must be getting matched up with a bunch of noobs because my teams have been crushing them. Right now I'm 6-0 with 8 goals and 4 assists. Hoops mode is pretty fun too. :)

 
Microsoft press conference was pretty good. Scorpio is going to be a beast. They're claiming it can do 4K at 60fps consistently. They kept talking about VR, but I didn't hear them say "Oculus" once. Is it possible Microsoft is making their own VR headset too? I mean, I know they've got the partnership with Oculus, but it seemed weird for them to not mention them by name.

As for games, Sea of Thieves looks pretty cool. Not sure if it will fall into the usual "suvival game" tropes. It's at least something different though. Team based sailing and having to patch up the ship seems cool.

Scalebound looks like a boring bucket of ass, just as it did years ago. It just seems like it's trying so hard to be cool.

Awesome that Horizon 3 will be on PC. I just wish they would give it VR support. That would seriously be the perfect racing game.

 
moojuice said:
Xbox Play Anywhere sounds cool.

Scalebound = Dark Souls w/Beats Headphones
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Yeah, I like Play Anywhere as a concept. It makes me wonder if it's going to work like Quantum Break where you'll get two separate keys (thus allowing people to split cost)...or if the purchase will just be linked to your Gamertag so you have a copy on each system. I'm not really sure how useful a feature like that would be or how many instances somebody would have access to an XB1, but not their PC...or vice versa.

But on the basis of giving more being better than taking away, I'll just call it a positive. At the least, it commits MS to the PC genre more than it has been in a very long time.

And yeah, Scalebound...it just seems so unoriginal and empty. I've seen people compare it to a lot of things. Devil May Cry, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, etc. And the main character's constant commentary. God, just shut uuuuuup, lol. Seems like such a douchey game.

 
Holy smokes, Detroit: Become Human looks awesome. And please be good Resident Evil, please be good.

 
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moojuice said:
Holy smokes, Detroit: Become Human looks awesome. And please be good Resident Evil, please be good.
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Yup...freaking Quantic Dream, man. That'll make me pick up a PS4 eventually down the road. Their games are just too damn good.

And Resident Evil 7....eheh...eheh...oh, God...I don't know. Capcom hasn't exactly hit the mark lately.

 
MicroSofts conference was horrible. Scorpio is only doing Video and Blu-Ray 4k and no mention of games but it will be VR ready and a cost of...$600 to $800. Also, Xbox Play is ONLY for Microsoft created games and no third party has said they would be on board at all. It is also tied to your gamer tag and it doesn't give out a code like Quantum Break did. Very lackluster honestly from MicroSoft.

On the Plus Side, PSV4 comes out October and guess what, STILL uses the original PS4. So yeah, I'll pick that up and Alan, the RE7 demo is up on the PS Store.
 
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MicroSofts conference was horrible. Scorpio is only doing Video and Blu-Ray 4k and no mention of games but it will be VR ready and a cost of...$600 to $800. Also, Xbox Play is ONLY for Microsoft created games and no third party has said they would be on board at all. It is also tied to your gamer tag and it doesn't give out a code like Quantum Break did. Very lackluster honestly from MicroSoft.

On the Plus Side, PSV4 comes out October and guess what, STILL uses the original PS4. So yeah, I'll pick that up and Alan, the RE7 demo is up on the PS Store.
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"Horrible" seems like hyperbole. Looking at the conferences side by side, I thought they were both pretty strong. Microsoft talked about a lot of games. They just covered a lot in general. If we're talking exclusives, MS announced 10 exclusives and Sony announced 9 exclusives (not counting timed exclusives or different versions of games...VR, mobile friendly, or otherwise).

Microsoft

Xbox One S

Xbox Play Anywhere

Gears of War 4 (Play Anywhere)

Killer Instinct (Play Anywhere)

Forza Horizon 3 (Play Anywhere)

ReCore (Play Anywhere)

Final Fantasy XV (not exclusive)

The Division DLC (timed exclusive)

Battlefield I (timed exclusive...with EA Access)

New System Features (BG music, Cortana, Clubs, Looking For Group, Arena)

Minecraft - The Friendly Update (allows Xbox to play with iOS, Android, and Windows 10)

Customizable Xbox One Controller

Inside

Indie Games (Cuphead, Yooka-Laylee, Outlast 2, Stardew Valley, Slime Rancher, Everspace, The Culling, Hand of Fate 2, Below)

We Happy Few (timed exclusive) (Play Anywhere)

Gwent (not exclusive)

Tekken 7 (not exclusive)

Dead Rising 4

Scalebound (Play Anywhere)

Sea of Thieves (Play Anywhere)

State of Decay 2 (Play Anywhere)

Halo Wars 2 (Play Anywhere)

Xbox Project Scorpio

Sony

God of War

Days Gone

Last Guardian

Horizon Zero Dawn

Detroit: Become Human

Resident Evil VII (game not exclusive...but VR)

PSVR

Farpoint (VR)

Star Wars Battlefront (VR)

Batman Arkham (VR)

Final Fantasy XV (game not exclusive...but VR)

Call of Duty: infinite Warfare (not exclusive)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remaster (timed exclusive)

Crash Bandicoot Remastered

Skylanders Imaginators (not exclusive...but Crash character)

Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens (not exclusive)

Death Stranding

Spider-Man

As for Play Anywhere...it's not limited to just MIcrosoft made games. We Happy Few is on the list, and it's not a Microsoft game. This article talks about more third party games coming (http://lifehacker.com/microsofts-new-xbox-play-anywhere-lets-you-buy-games-on-1781893474). I'm sure third parties don't HAVE to participate in it. But what you're saying is a bit off. And at the very least, it brings games like Halo, Gears, etc. back to PC...and creates a much larger pool of players. That is pretty solid.

Also, I don't know where you saw that Scorpio will only do 4K video/blu-ray. I saw a CNET article that mentions that...but in reference to the S. The S will do 4K video/blu-ray. https://www.cnet.com/news/xbox-one-project-scorpio-official-e3-2016/

The Scorpio is going to be 4.5 times more powerful than the current Xbox One. Microsoft went out of its way to give specs...which is almost unheard of. For comparison, the current Xbox One has a 1.31 teraflop GPU, the current PS4 has a 1.84 teraflop GPU. The Scorpio will have a 6 teraflop GPU. It's going to be very powerful.

 
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Vulcan2422 said:
"We've made a commitment to bring our first-party games to Windows and Xbox One," says it in the article. http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/13/11911216/xbox-play-anywhere-windows-10-xbox-one-e3-2016

And just so you know, Cortana sucks for the Xbox One so far. "Hey Cortana, Turn My Xbox On." Is not one bit useful.
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Well, sure. Microsoft can't really commit to bringing other people's games to Play Anywhere. That's not their decision. I'm sure it's being offered and explored. It's going to be up to other publishers if that's something they want to do. I would imagine any company that has its own PC client (ie. EA, Ubisoft, Valve, and maybe even Rockstar) won't be a part of it...unless something is done on MS's side to really sweeten the deal.

And I know Cortana still needs a lot of work in general. I downloaded the app on Android, and while it can be amusing, it's not totally integrated, and there's still a long ways to go to even reach Siri's level. But I remember saying back on Xbox 360 when the original Horizon came out how I thought MS should do voice controls without needing Kinect. I'm honestly surprised it took them this long.

 
Bottom-line, even if it was first party games, something is better than nothing. With all the issues I've had with the One (Nat connectivity, disc read errors, mic dropping, etc), given the choice between running a game on the Xbox or PC, I would chose PC any day.

 
It needs a lot of work on the Xbox One. Saying "Hey Cortana, Turn My Xbox On" "Hey Cortana, Turn My XBOX Off" "Hey Cortana, Turn the volume down" is so tiring.
 
Ha Ha, I mean eventually something is bound to listen.

Edit: The RE7 demo is something else. It had me spooked the whole time. It's been awhile since I have felt that way with  a video game.

 
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Vulcan2422 said:
Ha Ha, I mean eventually something is bound to listen.

Edit: The RE7 demo is something else. It had me spooked the whole time. It's been awhile since I have felt that way with a video game.
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Don't feel bad. Brandon tried to tell Cortana to make him a sandwich the other night, and she just wouldn't do it. I just tried it with the Google voice assistant (that dumb "Ok, Google" thing that has no name), and she told me "Poof...you're a sandwich". Smart ass...

 
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Ha Ha. I miss my old "Xbox On" voice command. Now I have to have a conversation just to turn down the volume.

Also, http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/spencer-scorpio-won-t-do-anything-for-you-if-you-don-t-have-a-4k-tv/0168577
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Yeah, I've seen people suggest that a voice assistant name shouldn't be longer than two syllables (ie. Si-ri, X-box). I know they're trying to make sure you intentionally triggered it, but "Hey, Cortana" and "Ok, Google" are just ridiculous. I wonder if they had a hard reason for not just going with "Cortana".

As for the usefulness, I think it's very situational. Basically the only commands I use are "Xbox pause" and "Xbox play" if I'm eating wings or something. Basically, there has to be a reason I can't use the remote or using the remote would be more trouble.

And your link...well, that's just smart business. He's like "Oh, yeah. You should just buy the Xbox One S." Why? Because the Scorpio won't be out for a year and a half. He's trying to set up Microsoft's ideal scenario of people buying the S...then feeling power envy next year, and upgrading to a Scorpio anyway. Not to mention, people could upgrade their TVs in that timespan as well. He's not going to tell people "Yeah, don't buy the S. Just hold off and wait for the Scorpio."

If you don't have a 4K TV by the time the Scorpio is out...well, yeah...you wouldn't get full power (though there were still people playing Xbox 360 on old 4:3 CRT TVs very recently). But maybe those people would prioritize VR over 4K, and be ok with a 1080p TV in the meantime. You never know.

 
I just don't see a benefit to a 4k tv yet really.

Also, looks like we'll be playing NHL till 12/30 as per the Gamestop release sheet they printed me yesterday.
 
Vulcan2422 said:
I just don't see a benefit to a 4k tv yet really.

Also, looks like we'll be playing NHL till 12/30 as per the Gamestop release sheet they printed me yesterday.
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Yeah, I don't either. I'm not going to rebuy my movie collection again. I guess if you have any UHD movies on VUDU, it wouldn't be terrible. But broadcast TV is super far behind. I guess at some point it will just be normal and that's the resolution things will be in. But to specifically upgrade to be that far on the cutting edge is a tough sell for me.

Hilarious about NHL. That must be how long it's going to take them to get the arena customization figured out, haha.

 
Well, here's somewhat of a strike against Microsoft...apparently, despite Halo Wars 2 being a Play Anywhere title, it won't actually have cross-platform play.

http://www.pcgamer.com/halo-wars-2-will-not-support-cross-platform-play

They're speculating that this could be due to the discrepency between gamers playing with a controller and others playing with mouse and keyboard. I get that that's something to be concerned about...but couldn't they just make separate lobbies or have a filtering options for people who didn't care. I don't see how you can say you're committed to cross-platform play if that type of thing is a dealbreaker. That's almost always going to be an issue.

 
So, every PS4 game shown and played (including PSVR) ran on a regular PS4 and not on any Neo's. Man, is it October yet? Can't wait for the PSVR
 
Vulcan2422 said:
So, every PS4 game shown and played (including PSVR) ran on a regular PS4 and not on any Neo's. Man, is it October yet? Can't wait for the PSVR
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I just can't buy into it until I hear testimonies from people who actually tried demo units. The problem is unless you're seeing it THROUGH the headset, you're not seeing the VR image. You're seeing it rendered to a regular HDTV/monitor...which is always going to look great. But if they pull it off with the equivalent of a GTX 760, then I'll certainly tip my cap to them and give credit where credit is due.

Now, anybody for pre-hockey?

 
My bad on that.

That Texas job thing from a while back- one of my buddies that I've known since like 6th grade actually ended up getting the job, and it's his last week in Colorado, so it's been a send-off weekend. Ended up passing out when I got home. Probably wont be on tonight, sorry.

 
Steam sale bubbling over already. Limbo is free on Steam today only.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/48000/

And also, Payday content is on sale at 75% off...newest stuff excluded, obviously. But the Goat Simulator Heist is only $1.74. Going to be a tough week keeping up with it as I'm going out of town tomorrow and won't be back until 6/29.

 
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