Official Rock Band Thread (It's out, bitches)

Ah, thanks for the pointer, Dingleberry.

MarkMan: hi. Been a while - I was one of the UCLA guys that used to run Soul Calibur tournaments when I was living in LA.
 
I'm glad I didn't buy the bundle! All of these hardware errors are crazy. I bought the game by itself, use my GH2 Xplorer guitar, and bought a Logitech USB microphone for it. I wish I had a drum kit, but hopefully by the time they release them seperate, issues will be corrected.
 
Does anyone know if i have a friend with the PS3 version of Rock Band and I have the 360, can he bring his drums over and we battle on my 360 since they are both usb?
 
anyone having issues with your RED drum? When I go to hit it fast it doesn't register correctly, I have to slow down how fast I hit it when there is a fill and a single stroke roll. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Almost like if you hit it too fast it doesn't register all the hits and only registers a few.

Also can I use my headset with my guitar and sing and play? IF so how? I have tried everything, and yes I plugged in a normal controller.
 
[quote name='Maynard']anyone having issues with your RED drum? When I go to hit it fast it doesn't register correctly, I have to slow down how fast I hit it when there is a fill and a single stroke roll. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Almost like if you hit it too fast it doesn't register all the hits and only registers a few.

Also can I use my headset with my guitar and sing and play? IF so how? I have tried everything, and yes I plugged in a normal controller.[/QUOTE]

Go here and get a replacement drum kit.

As for the microphone, you're probably doing something wrong. You can use the headset to sing, but you have to have it plugged into the standard controller.
 
2 questions about singing.

1.) Is it best to imitate the singer, or sing in your own singing voice? (for example, if I was singing Cherub Rock, should I take on a more nasal approach?)

2.) What does everyone have their mic sensitivity set to?
 
[quote name='Jesus_S_Preston']The OXM review pointed out that trying to sound like the singer doesn't really do anything.[/QUOTE]

No it doesn't. As long as you get the correct pitch. You could probably just make up words to the song as long the pitch and timing are right.

I'm also having problems strumming. My guitar seems to be the problem. Strumming up works perfectly, but the down strum has problems every now and then.
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']No it doesn't. As long as you get the correct pitch. You could probably just make up words to the song as long the pitch and timing are right.

I'm also having problems strumming. My guitar seems to be the problem. Strumming up works perfectly, but the down strum has problems every now and then.[/QUOTE]

Just go to the site I posted and get a replacement.
 
[quote name='evanft']Go here and get a replacement drum kit.

As for the microphone, you're probably doing something wrong. You can use the headset to sing, but you have to have it plugged into the standard controller.[/quote]

evan sorry to be dense, but do I have to have it plugged into the 360 pad or can i plug it into the guitar itself? When I plug it into the guitar it doesn't notice that I have a mic plugged in. If I turn on the controller and plug in the headset to the guitar it still does nothing. So I plugged in the mic hoping it would recognize it and still nothing. Help a homie out :)
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']As long as you get the correct pitch. You could probably just make up words to the song as long the pitch and timing are right.
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Yup. I did that when I played Rock Band with a couple of my friends a couple days ago. We were going through World Tour and I was tired of playing "Creep" every set, so I made a song about being John Madden/Howie Long.

My guitar is finally giving me strumming problems. I want to send out for one ASAP, but if they are just going to send me another guitar with the same problems I won't bother. Maybe I'll wait to see if they will FIX the problem before sending out new guitars.
 
Taken from another forum thread I've seen elsewhere....

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Originally Posted by Ben Sones:
This post is a public service announcement. Last night, my Strat developed the dreaded "downstrum has stopped registering intermittently" problem that so many people seem to be having. Sometimes it worked fine, but other times (especially in fast-strumming rhythm sections) it would either not register some of the time, or double-strum. Upstrum (the real downstrum, for actual guitar players) still worked fine. It was bad enough that I was failing out of songs on which I can normally get four or five stars.

I read all the official forum posts in the RB tech forum (which propose a number of different remedies), and then decided to open up the case and have a look at the mechanism for myself. Unlike the GHIII guitar, you can open the back of the Strat without voiding your warranty (the Les Paul has a sticker over one of the screwholes that voids the warranty if you break it). So before RMAing it, why not have a look?

I'm glad that I did, because I was able to determine what the problem was, and I fixed it. My Strat downstrum now works 100%. I just went and played Maps on hard (my default calibration song), and scored 99%. Oh, and one other thing: if you hear a little rattling sound inside the Strat, that's normal. It's not a broken piece of innards kicking around in there, it's just the normal sound that the tilt sensor makes. I had the same thing, and thought something must have broken in there, but nothing was.

If your downstrum has stopped working, I'll bet you a dollar that you are experiencing exactly the same problem. Which means that you can fix it, too. It's not difficult, but it does require:

1. A very small (jeweller's) screwdriver. The screw that you will be adjusting is Phillips, but the slots are very thin and flat, so a flathead actually works better.

2. A regular phillips screwdriver. This is for the screws on the back of the guitar. They look small, but trust me, you'll want a good sized screwdriver to get the necessary torque. If you have a power screwdriver, that will reduice the amount of time required for this operation significantly (there are a lot of screws).

3. A set of tweezers. The type that comes in those little computer tool kits is ideal.

Proceedure
1. Remove all the screws from the back of the Strat with the Phillips screwdriver. There are quite a few, and if you are not using a power screwdriver, this will be the most time-consuming step of the process. Take note of where the screws go: they come in three different lengths. The two short ones go in the two holes at the top (where the guitar body is cut out), the four long ones go in the four holes on the back of the neck, and the medium size ones go in the rest of the holes.

2. Carefully lift the back off. You are now looking at the back of the strummer mechanism. It looks like this:

strummer.jpg



It's a pretty simple mechanism. Basically, you have a microswitch that consists of two metal contacts sticking out of a square plastic housing ("tension screw housing") affixed to the body by a tiny screw ("tension screw"). A spacer between the contacts holds them apart in their resting state. When you strum, the plastic nub on the strum bar ("A") pushes the plastic nub affixed to the bottom contact and presses the contacts together. When you release, the contacts seperate. The plastic spacer between the contacts ensures that the bottom contact is under greater tension than the upper contact when the strum bar is pressed, making sure that when you release the strum bar, the bottom contact will snap away quickly. Note that there is a rubber pad affixed to the screw post that is above the top contact. This serves to dampen vibration when you press the strum bar (vibrating contacts can cause double-strumming). It is not, as some people on the official RB tech forums suggest, meant to push the top contact closer to the bottom one. In fact, ideally, the top contact should not even be touching the rubber pad in its resting state.

The problem
Here's what happens: the whole microswitch mechanism can rotate. The thing that prevents it from doing so is the tension screw that attaches the microswitch to the guitar body. If you are having problems getting downstrum to register consistently, chances are very good that the microswitch for downstrum has been rotated out of alignment slightly. It's possible that some of the guitars come with misaligned microswitches, or that the tension screw was not tightened sufficiently at the factory. It is also possible that even with a properly tightened screw, the microswitch gets pushed out of alignment over time through regular use.

Whatever the case, here is what a properly aligned microswitch SHOULD look like: The contacts should angle down towards the strum bar; they should not be parralel to it. The top contact will likely not be touching the rubber pad on the screwpost above it. The two plastic nubs (A and B) should be touching when the mechanism is in its rest state. If there is a small gap between them, then your microswitch has been knocked out of alignment.

The thing is, nub A is supposed to push on nub B when you strum, not hit it like a hammer. If there is a gap between the two nubs, then A is hitting B like a hammer when you strum. This will cause the lower contact to vibrate when you release the strum bar, which in turn will cause double-strums. Also, if the microswitch is rotated away from the strum bar, then you will have to press harder on the strum bar to make contact. This makes it much easier to miss notes, especially when you are strumming fast.

My microswitch was rotated away from the strum bar (I used the upstrum microswitch as a reference, since upstrum on my guitar was still working perfectly). The contacts were parallel to the strum bar, and there was a gap between plastic nubs A and B. The top contact was pressed against the rubber pad in its rest state. If your downstrum microswitch looks like this, then you have the same problem.

The fix
1. Using the very small jeweller's screwdriver, loosen (but don't remove) the tension screw that holds the microswitch in place. This will make the switch VERY loose. You'll be able to rotate/wiggle it freely.

2. With the tweezers in your left hand, grasp the tension screw housing. Rotate it counterclockwise (if you are fixing the downstrum microswitch) until the two plastic nubs are touching. Put some pressure on it--you want the plastic nubs to make good contact--but don't use so much pressure that the contacts are pressed together. Hold it in place.

3. With the jewellers screwdriver in your right hand (still holding the microswitch in position with the tweezers in your left), retighten the tension screw. Torque it down tightly (but not so much that you strip it out!).

4. That's it. Reassemble your guitar. It should now function properly.


Long-term prospects
It's not clear whether or not this problem will reoccur. If the misalignment was caused at the factory (perhaps the tension screw was never properly tightened, or perhaps the whole thing was just misaligned to begin with, when they tightened it), then this fix may be permanent. It could also be a design flaw, though--it is possible that normal play will slowly push the microswitch away from the strum bar over time, even if you have it tightened down properly. If that's the case, then a possible permanent fix would be to glue the thing in position with superglue. Then tighten the screw (to hold the microswitch in place while the glue cures), and give it plenty of time to cure before playing it again.

Personally, I'd rather avoid that sort of irreversible fix unless it's really necessary. If my strum bar gets flaky again, though...


Mythbusting
There are some suggestions on the official Rock Band forums for how to fix the strummer. Many of them are wrong, and a few suggest doing things that you should probably avoid. Such as:

1. Filing down the "raised bits" of the contacts with a metal file. Don't do this. Those raised bits are an important part of the microswitch.

2. Placing tape (or some other sort of spacer) between the outside contact and that screw post that has the little rubber pad stuck to it. Some people claim to have had luck doing this, but I think it's a bad idea. All this does is bend the outer contact closer to the inner one. This may make it easier to register strums, but if you have space between your plastic nubs, then I suspect that it will do nothing to prevent double-strums, and it may even exacerbate the problem.
 
[quote name='Maynard']evan sorry to be dense, but do I have to have it plugged into the 360 pad or can i plug it into the guitar itself? When I plug it into the guitar it doesn't notice that I have a mic plugged in. If I turn on the controller and plug in the headset to the guitar it still does nothing. So I plugged in the mic hoping it would recognize it and still nothing. Help a homie out :)[/QUOTE]

It's pretty simple. You have to have one "person" play the guitar, the other "person" with the mic and controller be vocals, but you put the mic on your head to do that part.
 
[quote name='Nelo Ice']for some reason instead of my downstrum not working my upstrum doesnt work very well..[/quote]Testing a bit, my upstrum double strums if done slowly. It seems to work okay if strummed quickly/normally. Regardless, it's a problem and I'm doing the replacement crap right now.
 
Hearing all these problems is making me reconsider this purchase =/

Also for those who can't find it. Rock Band for the 360 is $160 at Amazon with free shipping right now
 
Even with my down strum a little messed up I don't regret this purchase at all. I'm just using my GHII controller until my replacment Guitar arrives. If Rockband's guitar had the clickyness on the strum it would be he perfect guitar.

I went through the process of getting a new guitar from Rockband's website (the link evanft provided) and they have a speedy method. I should have my new guitar in a few days. I just swap out guitars and send the messed up one back. However they require a credit card number and if the broken guitar isn't recived within 30 days they'll charge you $100. I'm asuming this is the same for the drums as well.
 
I suck at all the songs, except for Creep. It's slow enough I can sing it decently. Except for the solo where I have to sing in a falsetto. I'm really not familiar with the non-radio music, but are any other songs have that same feel? How about the downloadable content?
 
K, it's now time for. "Traveling with your Drums" ideas.

So, how the hell are you suppose to? My first attempt was wrap them in a towel and throw them in a trash bag... I did not feel secure at all doing that. They need a carrying case...
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']K, it's now time for. "Traveling with your Drums" ideas.

So, how the hell are you suppose to? My first attempt was wrap them in a towel and throw them in a trash bag... I did not feel secure at all doing that. They need a carrying case...[/quote]They've got one. Rockband.com, under Games and Gear. $50. OOS last I looked.

Is there a decent test I can do to make sure my drums are all working well?
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']K, it's now time for. "Traveling with your Drums" ideas.

So, how the hell are you suppose to? My first attempt was wrap them in a towel and throw them in a trash bag... I did not feel secure at all doing that. They need a carrying case...[/quote]

You mean like this?
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']K, it's now time for. "Traveling with your Drums" ideas.

So, how the hell are you suppose to? My first attempt was wrap them in a towel and throw them in a trash bag... I did not feel secure at all doing that. They need a carrying case...[/quote]Just put it back in the Rock Band box or something.
 
[quote name='evanft']As for the microphone, you're probably doing something wrong. You can use the headset to sing, but you have to have it plugged into the standard controller.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about you guys, but my package came with an adapter to attach an Xbox 360 mic to the guitar and/or drum set. Dig around the box, and you should find it.

[quote name='Rodimus Donut']If Rockband's guitar had the clickyness on the strum it would be he perfect guitar.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious? The silence of the Rockband guitar is one of its best assets. You can actually hear the song and the guitar part, not that damn clicking!
 
[quote name='ViolentLee']I don't know about you guys, but my package came with an adapter to attach an Xbox 360 mic to the guitar and/or drum set. Dig around the box, and you should find it.

[/QUOTE]

Thats only for communicating on xbox live. You can't sing and use the instrument with the same controller.
 
Finally got a chance to try the drums at Best Buy today.

Oh wait, no I didn't. My buddy brought me along to the store with him but was in a rush to leave. I begged him for one game while he was cashing out, and waited behind this fat kid to finish his song. So, the song finally ends, the guy hands me the sticks, and then he asks if he could play the guitar part while I played drums. I didn't want to be a dick, so I said yes and let him choose the song as well.

The cuntie chose Wanted Dead or Alive, which doesn't have a goddamn drum part (sans bass) until a minute-plus into the song. So I'm waiting while this guy is struggling through the opening on medium and giving me this shit-eating grin, and he fails a little bit before my part starts up. I hit two goddamn notes, and the game ends for some reason. Then I had to leave.

Kid, if you're a CAG, I hate you.
 
[quote name='daroga']Anyone tried the 360 Wireless headset to sing with? Does it work well?[/quote]I didn't get a chance to try out the different mic settings (sensitivity, etc.), but it does work. At the default levels though I got some feedback and it picked up the background noise a bit. The wired headset fared a bit better, but I still prefer using the mic itself.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']With the passing of Kevin DuBrow, I demand "Cum on Feel the Noize" as a downloadable song.[/QUOTE]

That's rather sad. I'd prefer "Bang Your Head" with a proper guitar solo. Besides, Slade owns the rights to "Cum on Feel the Noize."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'd prefer "Bang Your Head" with a proper guitar solo. Besides, Slade owns the rights to "Cum on Feel the Noize."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know, but it's not like they haven't done that in a similar situation before (see "You Really Got Me" in GHII). I don't think Slade is too busy these days. Hell, I'll call and ask the guy who wore the top hat if someone gives me his number. If he's alive.

Bang Your Head would be good too. I'll take both.
 
Wow, this is the way the drum controller SHOULD be.

http://www.dj-dao.com/newsite/DM_updating.html

DSC_1651.jpg


gonna talk to Dao about getting this to work with Rockband as well. Shouldn't be too difficult since both use USB. But this is the way it was supposed to be. As much as I love Rockband, those damn drums are too damn noisy and the foot pedal feels cheap.

No word on pricing yet
 
[quote name='Zoglog']Wow, this is the way the drum controller SHOULD be.

http://www.dj-dao.com/newsite/DM_updating.html

DSC_1651.jpg


gonna talk to Dao about getting this to work with Rockband as well. Shouldn't be too difficult since both use USB. But this is the way it was supposed to be. As much as I love Rockband, those damn drums are too damn noisy and the foot pedal feels cheap.

No word on pricing yet[/quote]And tack on another $50-75 to the price? No thank you.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']And tack on another $50-75 to the price? No thank you.[/QUOTE]

HAHA $50-75? you must be dreaming.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']HAHA $50-75? you must be dreaming.[/quote]
Dont' forget, RockBand IS an EA game. :lol:

I could easily see $50+ tacked on.
 
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