[quote name='BigT']No, so they can end up like me...
But private schools are getting up there in price: ~$4K/yr for K-8 and ~10K/yr for high school... there should be a tax credit for that![/QUOTE]
No there shouldn't be, as a matter of fact. If you want to cover your kids' ears to the way the real world works, be prepared to shell out some money. Earplugs would be cheaper than private education, FWIW.
[quote name='MSI Magus']Favorite study that I ever saw was one that showed that kids taught abstinence had about the same rate of vaginal sex as those taught safe sex methods........but when you got into other forms of sex it was off the charts. The abstinence kids were having like 60% more oral sex and like 40% more anal sex or something crazy like that because they thought it kept them virgins. I remember just laughing and thinking great, when all their ultra conservatives only want butt sex because they are closet case homos the girls will already be trained! Second thought was if abstinence programs turn girls into butt freaks who love to give blow jobs im happy with that too! 9/10 times I would rather have a BJ anyways, and anal is o so sweet(calm down lilboo I am talking about with woman!).[/QUOTE]
The two studies of abstinence-only education I've read had two findings: (1) there was a *delay* in the onset of first intercourse (gotta love the way academic journals phrase things) - about 18 months, in fact - so abstinence-only education delayed intercourse, but there were no differences in the % of each group having premarital sex. That said, 18 months is a long time when considering adolescence. The other was (2) an evaluation of beliefs about sex in FL abstinence-only education students, who thought drinking mountain dew, a capful of bleach, or smoking weed would terminate their pregnancy. So they are delaying sex, but they're also *dangerously* (and not metaphorically dangerously, dangerously dangerously!) misinformed about their risks.
[quote name='Koggit']What you condescendingly claim our "society has degenerated into" is really just a pessimistic view of our primal instincts.[/QUOTE]
More than anything else, "society has degenerated into" is the kind of phrase an undergraduate sociology student would use in a paper if they never read their textbook or attended class. I really wish BigT would have the guts to read
this book before continuing to have the silly opinions he does. But I'm sure he's not up to the challenge, and will reply with something about being so busy - because he's a
doctor and all. Gotta make those golf outings!
But, anyway, the whole "society has degenerated" crap is just an empty phrase people use to describe patterns of change they don't like. You have seen it coincide with culture at every step along the 20th century (and surely before that): Jazz was barbaric, simplistic negro music that lacked the sophistication and refinement of big bands, and it would render all blacks shiftless and lazy - that was the stereotype about how Jazz would ruin society.
See the beginning of this video for that in action - with satchmo, no less!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CcAD_seww
It was the same mentality people had about only showing Elvis from the waist up on the Ed Sullivan show, because his hip swiveling was too lascivious to show on television. The same mentality that saw Little Richard violating race and gender at the same time - and so on down the line; every generation has had a slew of cultural enemies, whether Louis Armstrong or Marilyn Manson. In retrospect, nobody's ruined society. We're still breathing, we're still eating, we're still
ing.
You know who the real enemy is? Whoever put bacon in a box and sells it at room temperature in grocery stores. That shit ain't natural, man. Creeps me the hell out.
