Road to Wrestlemania that points at the Wrestlemania sign Wrestlemania XXVIII thread

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Also, I bought The Death Of WCW the other day. I picked it up tonight just to flip through without intending to read it, and I ended up sitting down and reading about 100 pages of it. I didn't know the third man was originally intended to be the British Bulldog. It probably wouldn't have been near as massive as Hogan ended up being, but I sure would like to have seen it.[/QUOTE]

Me neither. And man, that wouldn't have been as good. But if you think about it, it probably wouldn't have gone on as long as it did (all the members, splitting up, reforming, becoming stupid, etc.) if it were Davey Boy. Crazy how that works.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']I don't see anyone ending the streak, and if anyone does, it won't be a part-time guy.[/QUOTE]I agree.
Why reward a guy who left you high and dry a few years ago by letting him end the streak of a guy that has been loyal for 15 damn years?
At the same time Rock has been AWOL for awhile and he's been a key draw for this Mania, so who knows...
 
[quote name='advanced']Did you forget about
Lesnar and Taker's little snide remarks a while back? WWE is probably bringing Lesnar in for next year's Mania for Taker's next match. So simple.
[/QUOTE]


Ha. Yeah. I did. Mostly because
I'm uninterested in a Lesnar-Undertaker match. I think their styles wouldn't work well together. And to get a Michaels-Undertaker-level match out of the Undertaker, I think chemistry is key. But, as an attraction, Lesnar-Undertaker will turn heads.

Plus, as each year passes, the possible candidates to job to the Undertaker dwindles. I'd like Foley to get scripted into one of Undertaker's final matches—but only if Foley doesn't try to kill himself with crazy spots.

If next year's WrestleMania is H-Michaels, Undertaker-Lesnar, and Punk-Austin, that would be a very interesting card. However, it's telling that only a few—who have been built up in the last five years—have the draw to be booked in these special attractions.
 
Re: the now not quite confirmed but pretty damn close rumor

I wouldn't mind seeing Taker-Lesnar next year but I'd really prefer Undertaker be in full gimmick for that one...zombie sit-ups and all that. It's ridiculous sure but it would be nice fanservice, and to me it's honestly less ridiculous than him fucking trying to make a UFC champion tap. Heck, an early spot in the match should be Taker locking in that triangle choke and Lesnar just powerbombing the fuck out of him and laughing. Would set an early sense of danger and get them out of any further dumb Undertaker MMA shenanigans.
 
[quote name='advanced']Me neither. And man, that wouldn't have been as good.[/QUOTE]

Probably not, but, then again, I don't know how much of the nWo really taking off had to do with Hogan himself as opposed to it just being so new and different and exciting at the time. Davey Boy probably couldn't have taken it to the same heights, I just would have liked to see him in that role. The other one was Bret Hart, which, if done right, probably could have rivaled the impact Hogan ended up making.

I really like this book, though, and I'd like to share one of my favorite passages so far:

Not only did WCW begin to sign names, but at the advice of their PPV head, Sharon Sidello, they also began to film expensive skits in an effort to sell their upcoming shows. These weren't cheap-looking productions filmed with standard television equpiment; they were professionally filmed, and they looked like honest-to-God movies. And why not? They had the Turner family behind them, and if anyone could make such a production look high-end, it would be them.

The only problem was that these skits were so horribly written and acted that the results were laughable at best. Take, for instance, the showdown between Vader and his new nemesis, Cactus Jack. The storyline for this one had already been set up by Vader and Jack's knock-down, drag-out affair on WCW Saturday Night, the promotion's flagship show at the time. Vader slammed Jack's head into the concrete outside the ring, knocking the guy out cold. With a setup like that, Pro Wrestling 101 says to just replay the bump over and over so fans will see Jack as a sympathetic character to get behind. Instead, and overblown backstory was created, in which Jack had amnesia, believed he was a sailor, and was hunted down for weeks by a bogus news reporter.

Awesome.
 
[quote name='Chase']
think I'd like Foley to get scripted into one of Undertaker's final matches—but only if Foley doesn't try to kill himself with crazy spots.
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The man nowadays could kill himself trying to tie his shoes in his current state. We've already had Giant Gonzalez stink up the ring against Taker, we don't need another bad match on top of feeling really sad about what we're seeing.
 
[quote name='Chase']Ha. Yeah. I did. Mostly because
I'm uninterested in a Lesnar-Undertaker match. I think their styles wouldn't work well together. And to get a Michaels-Undertaker-level match out of the Undertaker, I think chemistry is key. But, as an attraction, Lesnar-Undertaker will turn heads.

Plus, as each year passes, the possible candidates to job to the Undertaker dwindles. I'd like Foley to get scripted into one of Undertaker's final matches—but only if Foley doesn't try to kill himself with crazy spots.

If next year's WrestleMania is H-Michaels, Undertaker-Lesnar, and Punk-Austin, that would be a very interesting card. However, it's telling that only a few—who have been built up in the last five years—have the draw to be booked in these special attractions.
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Spoiled due to rumor-control. Don't look if you are looking to watch WM without reading any of these things.
The UT/Lesnar Hell in a Cell match from 2002ish was fantastic. I don't think that UT has a match of that calibur left in him at this point but I don't think that I'd discount their ability to put something very good together.

[quote name='KaneRobot']Re: the now not quite confirmed but pretty damn close rumor

I wouldn't mind seeing Taker-Lesnar next year but I'd really prefer Undertaker be in full gimmick for that one...zombie sit-ups and all that. It's ridiculous sure but it would be nice fanservice, and to me it's honestly less ridiculous than him fucking trying to make a UFC champion tap. Heck, an early spot in the match should be Taker locking in that triangle choke and Lesnar just powerbombing the fuck out of him and laughing. Would set an early sense of danger and get them out of any further dumb Undertaker MMA shenanigans.
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That would be an awesome scenario. Almost starting the match off in a UFC kind of style and then having UT transition into the undead persona in an effort to handle Lesnar.

EDIT - Oh and the Briscoe weather should be a weekly thing. I laughed out loud when he revealed that he's been struck by lightning twice. True or not, his delivery was fantastic.
 
[quote name='OnyxPrimal']edit: Apparently WWE has re-hired Fit Finlay.[/QUOTE]

About time. The reason for his firing was re-goddamned-diculous, especially when JBL didn't get shitcanned for goosestepping in Germany (roughly) around the same time.
 
Yeah, glad Finlay got brought back. Wonder what the fuck took so long.

[quote name='Halo05']
The UT/Lesnar Hell in a Cell match from 2002ish was fantastic. I don't think that UT has a match of that calibur left in him at this point but I don't think that I'd discount their ability to put something very good together.
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That's in my 10 favorite matches ever and probably my favorite gimmick match ever. If they wind up doing what we're talking about down the road they absolutely need to liberally use footage of that match, specifically the outcome.


I was actually leaning towards watching a stream or just flat out not watching the show after this past Monday's shitfest Raw, but...with all the rumors flying around now I'm admittedly a little more interested. Shame on me for probably being a sucker, but...oh well.
 
[quote name='Halo05']
The UT/Lesnar Hell in a Cell match from 2002ish was fantastic. I don't think that UT has a match of that calibur left in him at this point but I don't think that I'd discount their ability to put something very good together.

That's in my 10 favorite matches ever and probably my favorite gimmick match ever. If they wind up doing what we're talking about down the road they absolutely need to liberally use footage of that match, specifically the outcome.
 
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Apparently ROH forgot to proof read.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']
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Apparently ROH forgot to proof read.[/QUOTE]

I'm still bummed out that they're using the "side of wheat toast" graphic background.
 
I hope this isn't an AF joke..

Wwedvdnews is claiming the upcoming ECW DVD is now "ECW Unreleased" and will feature unseen footage. They've apparently revealed the cover, which features Shane Douglas and Bam Bam.

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I don't think the intended effect they were going for with that reworked Christian theme is me laughing at the vocals but...here we are. Still, I guess anything is better than the thing he'd been using lately.


Re: HoF ceremony, I saw some reports saying Arn got an even bigger reaction than Flair, which is kind of cool if true.


I usually stink at these but I'll give it a shot for tonight. These guesses are based on a scenario where none of the recent rumors actually turn out to be true since that could impact more than one of the matches below.

Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes
Big Show retaliates on Cody showing embarassing Wrestlemania moments of him by showing a video of his father Dusty Rhodes shoveling horse shit and making "beat my meat" puns at a butcher shop. However, this proves a futile effort as Cody immediately fires back on Show by showing a video of HIS father shitting on Bad News Brown's chest. Show gets super duper pissed and punches him in the face.
Winner: BIG SHOW

Johnny Ace vs. Teedy Long
Thanks for coming, Team Ethnicity.
Winner: TEAM JOHNNY

Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan
Blah blah, same match that was left off the PPV last year and look at them now, Whoop-de-fucking-dooooooooooo.
Winner: SHEAMUS

Randy Orton vs. Kane
The ol' "uh, we're just gonna mix and match the leftover guys with Kane" bout. This match is the ghost of Kane vs. Kurt Angle at Wrestlemania whatever and Kane vs. Raven vs. Big Show at 17. Kane's through with his annual 2 month push and should be back to smilin' and doing Santino's trumpet dance soon enough.
Winner: ORTON

Beth Phoenix/Eve vs. Celebrity/Kelly Kelly
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Kelly Kelly submits when Eve goes down on her while they're both naked.
Winner: THE FANS (APRIL FOOLS)

C.M. Punk vs. Chris Jericho
Jericho signing a new deal makes me think they'll be dragging this one out a little.
Winner: JERICHO

The Undertaker vs. HHH
If Undertaker somehow loses, I look forward to him making a somber exit to DA-DADA DA, DAH DA DAH. DAH DAH DAHHH DAH as Vince McMahon hand cranks a street organ on the entrance ramp.
Winner: UNDERTAKER

Cena vs. The Rock
Whatever. Would be a nice moment for Rock but trolling the crowd with a clean Cena win has its appeal as well.
Winner: CENA
 
Nah, I suspect that that DVD cover is legit. (1) it'd be kind of a bland April Fool's joke on one hand, and (2) let's not forget who is releasing this DVD - WWE. Their definition of "Unreleased" is probably the same as their definition of "Once in a Lifetime." Let's all file a class-action lawsuit! ;)

In short, to WWE, if they haven't published it on DVD yet, it's "unreleased." So you'll get matches from the Pioneer releases I'm sure. Probably even previous WWE releases, too (the 3-disc Mick Foley set comes to mind, or RVD's). And there really is a lot of ECW's library that was never released on DVD or widely available publicly - PPVs, TNN episodes, their UHF show from before the TNN gig, etc. Back in the mid-1990's, you had to order directly from ECW themselves, and it all came on generic, self-published VHS tapes. So if you want to call that stuff "released" (low availability, no national distribution), we'll agree to disagree.

Moi? I'm just stoked that they know better than to put WWECW bullshit on there. Worse than the XFL, that show was.

EDIT: Speaking of April Fool's jokes, I secretly hope that the rumored spoilers y'all have been tossing around turn out to be a big AF joke. But that would be too mean, almost.

dirt sheet: has been spotted in Miami talking business w/ WWE.
us: OMG, is going to show up tonight! OMG OMG OMG!
wrestlemania:
 
[quote name='guyver2077']gameday folks... cant wait.. heading out in a few hours..[/QUOTE]

We're gearin up as well to head out, so stoked!
 
The real question is how much is WWE going to edit the boos for Cena on the Mania DVDs and Blus this time around.
 
Sorry. It's spoilered now.:razz:
http://www.yardbarker.com/wwe/artic...s_one_year_deal_to_return_to_the_wwe/10453448

Report: Lesnar signs with WWE

Brock Lesnar reportedly has signed a one-year deal with the WWE. Lesnar is in Miami and expected to make a big impact at WrestleMania 28. The former UFC champion is expected to work multiple dates and appears to truly done with the UFC.

Retirement is a funny thing in sports and rarely do athletes stay retired or who are retired. Lesnar appears to be that rare exception to the rule. After suffering a brutal loss to Alistair Overeem at UFC 140, Lesnar announced his retirement from the UFC. This new WWE deal confirms that he won’t be fighting again because there is no way the UFC would have let him make this deal if there was any chance of that happening.

The rumors started swirling on Friday about Lesnar signing with the WWE. Early reports indicated that the two sides were very close to finalizing a deal to bring back the former WWE champion. Dave Meltzer at F4Wonline.com reported Saturday that Lesnar is in Miami and the deal is likely done.

According to Meltzer, Lesnar is in Miami with a heavy security detail. Meltzer also reports that Lesnar will wrestle a somewhat regular part-time schedule. According to Meltzer, Lesnar will wrestle more than The Undertaker yet less than what Bill Goldberg did several years ago when he was a part of the WWE. In other words, Lesnar will likely appear at least once a month barring injury for the next year.

This is a huge signing for Vince McMahon. Lesnar didn’t come cheap and will probably earn more than anyone on the roster as a base salary. Lesnar is leaving MMA as the biggest draw during his prime. Lesnar made close to $6 million in 2010 at his peak in the UFC. Lesnar fought just twice in 2010 to make that money. I can’t imagine him returning to the WWE for more dates to make less, even though the two entities are completely different animals.

The expectation is that Lesnar will play a part in the finish of the Triple H vs. The Undertaker Hell in a Cell match at WrestleMania XXVIII. All rumors seem to indicate that the angle will lead into a segment on RAW this Monday night which results in a Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker match being announced one year ahead of time for next year’s WrestleMania. That said, I would not be surprised to see the WWE pull some kind of a swerve now that the cat is out of the bag.
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[quote name='pitfallharry219']you stupid fucking idiot.[/QUOTE]

I've had that chowderhead on ignore longer than most people have been members of these forums. I advise you do the same.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I've had that chowderhead on ignore longer than most people have been members of these forums. I advise you do the same.[/QUOTE]

:rofl: :applause: :applause: :rofl:
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']I wouldn't put it past the WWE to protect their golden child on the DVD and Blu release.[/QUOTE]

"Wouldn't put it past them"? They've done it before, I'm not sure why you're even slightly unsure that they wouldn't do it again.

I've heard the rumors, and yeah, it's cool, but if any match ends in interference, they should refund every single ticket holder. Weekly TV shows, sure, that's cool to end a match in interference. PPV's? Ehh.. it's dicey, but alright. But Wrestlemania? That's.. you just don't do that. If you have interference, have interference, but script the referee to be out or something - don't end a match in DQ at Wrestlemania.

That said, I'm also really excited. Love this time of year. Not only for Wrestlemania, but I love the "draft" (I use quotations around draft because it's not like it really means anything anymore, it's just fun). Looking forward to chatting with you all tonight, but I have a mountain of work to finish before I get to that point.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I've had that chowderhead on ignore longer than most people have been members of these forums. I advise you do the same.[/QUOTE]
I actually welcomed people to put me on ignore a while ago, so much so that I had a link to the page on CAG where they could ignore me right in my sig. Yet I think sometimes people just like arguing with me.:lol:
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I actually welcomed people to put me on ignore a while ago, so much so that I had a link to the page on CAG where they could ignore me right in my sig. Yet I think sometimes people just like arguing with me.:lol:[/QUOTE]

You realize that he can't read your reply, right?
 
[quote name='Tsel']Christian has a new theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0HphPWT4bY[/QUOTE]

What the fuck. WWE keeps screwing with perfectly fine "rock" based themes. First Cody and Dolph, now Christian.

We're about to come full circle to a decade ago where everything in WWE went nu-metal for the worse and just because they could.... Only I don't know what to call this music.
 
Well, I can read it now. Thanks a million, Scorch. ;)

Also, yes: Christian's new theme is not all that different from his old theme, which is an inferior cover of his old-old theme.

Why not stick with the Waterproof Blonde version? Give Louisville, KY some love.

Did you know? (some of you do, perhaps) Waterproof Blonde not only recorded Christian's "Close Your Eyes" theme, they also recorded Sean O'Haire's WWE theme. But if you blinked, you missed that version of Sean O'Haire. A bloody shame that O'Haire had a perfectly good persona yanked out from under him, while "Kerwin White" got more airtime than that.
 
[quote name='Golden Idol']Goddamn it. What a backwards organization.[/QUOTE]

You come to that summation due to one typo, huh? :roll:
 
Zen Davis is spiraling out of control again, this time over one bad keystroke.

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I guess it is time to put him on ignore, although I will miss him telling the same story three times a week that he's been telling for five years and his use of 19 unneeded smilies in every post. Oh wait, I won't.
 
Cracking the fuck up at that shitty DX singer trying to do an even more blatant RATM ripoff at the beginning. So corny.

Naturally they wrecked the Horsemen theme too since they can't leave anything alone. The "later" WCW theme/WWE theme they had previously been using was fine but neither of them were as good as the mid 90's one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWZfmEtkx1M


[quote name='Scorch']"Wouldn't put it past them"? They've done it before, I'm not sure why you're even slightly unsure that they wouldn't do it again.[/QUOTE]
:lol: Waiting for the follow-up "I wouldn't put it past them to overdub an entrance theme if they'd otherwise have to pay the original artist. That's just the kind of stunt WWE would pull!"
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Cracking the fuck up at that shitty DX singer trying to do an even more blatant RATM ripoff at the beginning. So corny.[/QUOTE]

According to iTunes, the band is "Age Against the Machine". I'm not going to make any jokes because anything that I can come up with will automatically be outdone by the fact that they ripped their name off of Rage Against the Machine.

Apparently they did Swagger's "On Your Knees" theme.
 
The DVD/Blu-Ray release date is 5/8, right? That's 5 weeks total to edit, master, print and ship. I'm sure there will be edits, but perhaps not as many as we might expect.

They're likely to edit cheers and boos, sure. But still, I'm impressed that WWE did not edit (to my knowledge) the MITB Punk/Cena main event audio.
 
[quote name='Scorch']According to iTunes, the band is "Age Against the Machine". I'm not going to make any jokes because anything that I can come up with will automatically be outdone by the fact that they ripped their name off of Rage Against the Machine.

Apparently they did Swagger's "On Your Knees" theme.[/QUOTE]

Technically, they didn't rip off the name because they are an all RATM cover band.

Didn't see Mitch's post above.
 
[quote name='Scorch']"Wouldn't put it past them"? They've done it before, I'm not sure why you're even slightly unsure that they wouldn't do it again.[/quote]

Oh so you mean to tell me Sandman really came out to an generic version of "Enter Sandman" at One Night Stand 2005, right? :lol:

I've heard the rumors, and yeah, it's cool, but if any match ends in interference, they should refund every single ticket holder. Weekly TV shows, sure, that's cool to end a match in interference. PPV's? Ehh.. it's dicey, but alright. But Wrestlemania? That's.. you just don't do that. If you have interference, have interference, but script the referee to be out or something - don't end a match in DQ at Wrestlemania.
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You must not remember last year's Mania very well with The Rock's run in on the main event and all that Vince Russo like booking.

That said, I'm also really excited. Love this time of year. Not only for Wrestlemania, but I love the "draft" (I use quotations around draft because it's not like it really means anything anymore, it's just fun).
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The "draft" to me is a joke seeing that the whole brands thing in itself is a joke already. Why should I care if Randy Orton is "Smackdown" when he's on both shows every single fucking week?
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Oh so you mean to tell me Sandman really came out to an generic version of "Enter Sandman" at One Night Stand 2005, right? :lol:[/QUOTE]

I don't get what you're saying - in my original statement, I said that yes, they've made edits before, and I wasn't sure why you said that you "wouldn't put it past them". Saying that shows that there's some skepticism on your part whether or not they would edit in cheers/boos. I was saying that they have before, there shouldn't even be any skepticism on whether or not they'd do it again.

You must not remember last year's Mania very well with The Rock's run in on the main event and all that Vince Russo like booking.
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The match did not end in a disqualification. My whole point was that a Wrestlemania match should not end in a disqualification.

I'm surprised as well, Myke. They're usually pretty picky about making sure the viewer only sees/hears what they want them to see/hear. They even edited out the boos towards the choir that sang before Cena's entrance at WM27.
 
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Honestly, if you guys keep bitching about the shitty covers WWE keeps doing of their music it WILL get worse. You wil end up with things like WWE The Music: Autotuned Edition and then there will be the ever-popular WWE The Music: Dubstep Edition to round things out.

I can hear good ol' JR now: "By Gawd King, His ears are broken into a million pieces...."
 
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