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I'll be honest, a part of me thought for GH4 Activision would go the more "hardcore" route and add a sixth fret button. That way it would still be about the "Guitar" and nothing else...

Though it seems and feels like a bad, bad idea to be trailing Rock Band when it's done everything to the point of little to no complaints (only exception being broken drums or the crappy strum bar, but hell I'm getting muthafuckin Judas Priest tomorrow!).
 
[quote name='Jesus_S_Preston']How is the Crue song?[/QUOTE]

Since it's half-price, I'd say go for it if you like their other stuff...it's reasonably similar to their old stuff. You can always just watch it on Youtube or whatever.
 
They could add a virtual sixth button just by using open strings.

I would have d/l the Crue song if not for the vocals which sound extremely stupid/annoying/awful.
 
I bought Target's Rock Band shirt today:

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It's on sale this week for $9.99 (Edit: XXL is $11.99).

Has anyone seen these anywhere else? I'd like to find the drums, but this is the only RB shirt I've seen at Target.
 
[quote name='CokeCola']I bought Target's Rock Band shirt today:

RockbandShirt.jpg


It's on sale this week for $9.99 (I think it's $8.99 for small - large).

Has anyone seen these anywhere else? I'd like to find the drums, but this is the only RB shirt I've seen at Target.[/quote]

I've only seen the guitar logo of it (and have that shirt as well) at all my local Target's (all 4 that I've been to). So either the other instruments dont exist or sell out quick or havent made them yet.
 
Has anyone had problems with the Guitar included? namely, the stroke button after time wearing out so you have to press harder, and there is a delayed reaction to the note?... i have to push up on it now instead of down for it to be on time and in synch...
 
[quote name='DestroVega']Has anyone had problems with the Guitar included? namely, the stroke button after time wearing out so you have to press harder, and there is a delayed reaction to the note?... i have to push up on it now instead of down for it to be on time and in synch...[/QUOTE]
Welcome to last year.. :lol: no seriously, there's major issues with the stability of the guitars.
 
[quote name='thehuskerfan']Welcome to last year.. :lol: no seriously, there's major issues with the stability of the guitars.[/quote]

I figured, just wondering what I should do... I paid like 20 bucks at wal-mart for replacement plan, but who knows exactly what that entails... also thought about sending it to EA but, i dunno, still in the early stages of breaking down
 
[quote name='DestroVega']I figured, just wondering what I should do... I paid like 20 bucks at wal-mart for replacement plan, but who knows exactly what that entails... also thought about sending it to EA but, i dunno, still in the early stages of breaking down[/quote]
Less then a month after mine broke down (circa...December I want to say), I sent it in to EA and they sent me a new one in basically a week. Mine was the downstrum would work 50% of the time if lucky. Though I say check with Wal-Mart first, but if that fails keep this bookmarked (because I sure as hell do).

http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/php/enduser/rockband.php
 
The only way that GH is going to be able to compete with Rock Band is if they include a kick ass soundtrack with absolutely no filler and NO fuckING COVERS. They need to include shit that is loud and downright fun to play. The Def Leppard announcement gives me real hope they might turn shit around, but I am not totally sold. They love shitty music way too much.
 
Get the guitar RMAd with EA...their support is actually good and the replacement won't have strum bar problems...that's one that they actually did lick.
 
Hey myke, I got Rock Band!
I feel like an idiot but am having a lot of fun.

Holy crap, the Moonage Daydream guitar solo was pure heaven to play.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']The only way that GH is going to be able to compete with Rock Band is if they include a kick ass soundtrack with absolutely no filler and NO fuckING COVERS. They need to include shit that is loud and downright fun to play. The Def Leppard announcement gives me real hope they might turn shit around, but I am not totally sold. They love shitty music way too much.[/quote]
I don't think covers really matter that much, since in the game you're a cover band in anycase. Besides biggest problem with covers is singer and if you already got one screaming into a mic right next to you, I think you're set.

Though even if they do, do all that the DLC department I can NEVER imagine them stepping it up half to where Harmonix is. Since GH2 for 360 people have been wanting DLC and with GH3 it's just been rather lackluster to say the least (No Doubt isn't exactly known for their soaring licks).

The only way GH4 can outdo Rock Band at is basically giving what good portion of people want and that's actual fast metal (as evident in GH3 compared to RB and I'm kinda sad to say, only place I'd probably see Bodom is GH). Though it'll be a short won victory if they don't try and keep some kinda schedule with DLC...
 
If GH4 lets you use RB's instruments, I'll happily consider it as long as Neversoft doesn't "Tony Hawk" it more and it has a good soundtrack. Like with the Aerosmith version, it'll probably be a quick and dirty rental to try out the songs and get the cheesemints. At this point theres no way GH4 will outdo RB as a group game. We already paid $200 for our package, we'll just pay $2 for more songs instead of $200 for more instruments.

[quote name='CokeCola']I bought Target's Rock Band shirt today:
It's on sale this week for $9.99 (I think it's $8.99 for small - large).

Has anyone seen these anywhere else? I'd like to find the drums, but this is the only RB shirt I've seen at Target.[/QUOTE]
Shirt looks alright. I'd want those shirts you unlock. Plain black with the instrument logo.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Great.

Now go petition Harmonix for some Smiths, willya?[/quote]
They'll fear my pen!

it's never gonna happen :(....... well, Warner owns the catalog, so who knows
 
My dream would be if somehow they got DFA1979 songs on DLC, not sure how the mechanics would work out since it's a two man band, but I want to just be able to rock out to their songs.
 
Now that I've played the game myself and see how it works.
A little known gem by a group called Beachbuggy would be perfect, their single 'Killer B'.

My dream group aside from Smiths/Moz tracks, would probably be Television.
In fact, I'd probably want the Television tracks more.
 
[quote name='zewone']My dream would be if somehow they got DFA1979 songs on DLC, not sure how the mechanics would work out since it's a two man band, but I want to just be able to rock out to their songs.[/quote]It would be more likely to show up on GH3 than it would on Rock Band, but, I agree - playing bass for almost any song of theirs would be sweet.
 
[quote name='dallow']Now that I've played the game myself and see how it works.
A little known gem by a group called Beachbuggy would be perfect, their single 'Killer B'.

My dream group aside from Smiths/Moz tracks, would probably be Television.
In fact, I'd probably want the Television tracks more.[/QUOTE]

If we can get Television, then perhaps we'll be able to get Wreckless Eric as well!

My 'never gonna happen' lists consists of:
Wreckless Eric (just "Whole Wide World")
The Cramps (any 2-3 songs, perhaps "She Said" among them)
...hmm. My brain stopped working. Can't recall. Maybe "Pretend We're Dead."

Or The Dwarves.
 
[quote name='CokeCola']I bought Target's Rock Band shirt today *snip*[/quote]

I... NEED... THIS... SHIRT!!! I hate how the men's department gets all the cool shirts and us women are just screwed :lol: I got one with a Nintendo logo on it awhile back, but it fits oddly (obviously). I'll have to deal, though.

Will have to get to Target and check for this tomorow. Wish I'd known about it earlier tonight.

Thanks for posting about it, CokeCola. I wouldn't have known otherwise!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']They can fuck off for the following:
1) The price of their DLC
2) The quality of their DLC
3) Cockblocking Harmonix from patching Rock Band to use the Les Paul
4) Turning the GH franchise into their latest "Tony Hawk." GHIII wasn't my cuppa tea at all, man, and it's a shame to think, with Aerosmith on the way, the series peaked with #2 and shows no signs of going up.

Besides, Activision will go an arrogant $199 with their full game, and if Rock Band is smart, they'll drop to $129 in the weeks prior to GHIV (or whatever it is).

Activision and GHIV can (this is the scientific phrase, I believe) "eat a dick."[/QUOTE]

I have to refute most of your points:

1. It's a 60 point difference, a whopping .75 cents. Not the huge difference everyone makes it out to be. As long as all three tracks are great I have no problem with it. That is also assuming Harmonix bundles their 3 tracks to save you that .75 cents which they don't do every week, in which case they are the same price as GHIII.

2. GHIII's DLC quality has been stellar. ALL master tracks. Not a single cover. Not to mention we have gotten 9 or 10 free tracks. The problem is quantity. RB started out shaky being cover heavy but have done decent as of late. Problem is that the rumored March list was cover heavy, so we will be dipping again in quality in the near future. A recent article (not sure where) said Activision will be putting stuff out almost weekly following the release of GH:A. Quantity is coming.

3. This is the only of your points I agree with. For GHIV:Band Hero (?) to even have a chance at succeeding they have to allow the RB peripherals to work because there isn't a single gamer out there that will buy another guitar/drum/mic kit just for one game. Activision needs to get off that high horse or GHIV will land with a thud. They are right about one thing, whatever peripherals Red Octane puts out will obliterate Harmonix/EA's in the quality department. If they make them compatible I see no reason not to welcome a second game to utilize my $170 in peripherals. It's silly to flat out not want it.

4. Six of one, half dozen of another. I know it's easy to ignore facts when the inner fanboy comes out but in 18 months Harmonix managed to put out GH, GHII, GH80s and RB. So far in 12 months Activision is on track for GHIII, GH:A, and GHIV(given 6 more months another title). So in the same exact time frame both companies will have put out equal number of disc based titles. Plus, I just don't buy the "disc method is milking it" while 200+ DLC tracks isn't, stance. It's merely a different delivery method. Nothing more. Fact is, you get more for your money in a disc based method (even at full SRP, that's not even counting sales/clearances) plus own something physical that has resale value instead of a bunch of 1s and 0s.


Looking at things with a clear head and checking the fanboy rants at the door, both companies aren't so different. This allegiance nonsense is laughable. More music and competition is good for everyone.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']The only way that GH is going to be able to compete with Rock Band is if they include a kick ass soundtrack with absolutely no filler and NO fuckING COVERS. [/QUOTE]

Too add to my last post, there are equal amounts of covers in both games excluding DLC. Factor in DLC and RB owns the cover arena. Not exactly the stance you had in mind, I'm sure.
 
Very quickly:
1) The 75-cent difference is a 12.5% price difference. Over the course of one set of DLC, no big deal perhaps. Over say, 5-10 download packs (especially if GH is going to compete with RB and release weekly DLC), then suddenly you've spent $7.50 more for DLC. Also, the lack of the a la carte option amongst GH DLC packs is bothersome.

2) Master tracks of No Doubt? I'd rather have a coversong than that. The free Dropkick Murphys songs were pure advertising for DM newest (shitty) album. Not one standout; not one 'classic.' Not one song that translated well to Guitar Hero at all. They stink and are no fun to play. Sure, they're free, but free stuff that stinks still stinks. And I say this as a fan of DM; their songs are not conducive to GH, because of the repetitive hesher-less nature of their songs. Also, I count 5 free songs: the DM pack, the Halo song (for 360 owners), and "We Three Kings." Sorry, but the Boss Battles don't count in my world.

3) Turnabout is fair play. Harmonix/EA have every reason in the world to cockblock Activision/Red Octane right back. Don't expect compatibility.

4) It's not about how prolific one company is over another, or disc versus DLC. It comes down to quality. GH1 and 2 are still classics. 80's and III are not. Rock Band brings the genre to a whole new level. GH has a name franchise, and between 80's, III, and the $50 DS version, have clearly overstepped the boundaries and delved into "overlicensed and overreleased" territory.

[quote name='Corvin']Too add to my last post, there are equal amounts of covers in both games excluding DLC. Factor in DLC and RB owns the cover arena. Not exactly the stance you had in mind, I'm sure.[/QUOTE]

:roll: The point you're making here is akin to saying XBLA must be worse than PSN since there are a larger number of shittier games on XBLA, when the reality is that the paltry selection on PSN (or GH) doesn't allow for any reasonable comparison. In terms of DLC, Rock Band wins hands down. Screaming for Motherfuckin' Vengeance.

Screaming for Vengeance.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Now go petition Harmonix for some Smiths, willya?[/QUOTE]
Yes yes yes. Back in the GH days I assumed Smiths would be impossible to license due to the whole breakup thing, but then I heard "Please, Please, Please..." in the Extras movie. So it's possible!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Very quickly:
1) The 75-cent difference is a 12.5% price difference. Over the course of one set of DLC, no big deal perhaps. Over say, 5-10 download packs (especially if GH is going to compete with RB and release weekly DLC), then suddenly you've spent $7.50 more for DLC. Also, the lack of the a la carte option amongst GH DLC packs is bothersome.

2) Master tracks of No Doubt? I'd rather have a coversong than that. The free Dropkick Murphys songs were pure advertising for DM newest (shitty) album. Not one standout; not one 'classic.' Not one song that translated well to Guitar Hero at all. They stink and are no fun to play. Sure, they're free, but free stuff that stinks still stinks. And I say this as a fan of DM; their songs are not conducive to GH, because of the repetitive hesher-less nature of their songs. Also, I count 5 free songs: the DM pack, the Halo song (for 360 owners), and "We Three Kings." Sorry, but the Boss Battles don't count in my world.

3) Turnabout is fair play. Harmonix/EA have every reason in the world to cockblock Activision/Red Octane right back. Don't expect compatibility.

4) It's not about how prolific one company is over another, or disc versus DLC. It comes down to quality. GH1 and 2 are still classics. 80's and III are not. Rock Band brings the genre to a whole new level. GH has a name franchise, and between 80's, III, and the $50 DS version, have clearly overstepped the boundaries and delved into "overlicensed and overreleased" territory.



:roll: The point you're making here is akin to saying XBLA must be worse than PSN since there are a larger number of shittier games on XBLA, when the reality is that the paltry selection on PSN (or GH) doesn't allow for any reasonable comparison. In terms of DLC, Rock Band wins hands down. Screaming for Motherfuckin' Vengeance.

Screaming for Vengeance.[/QUOTE]

1. Fair enough, but an argument could be made for master tracks being worth an extra .75 cents.

2. We can debate artists all day long, which would be a fruitless endeavor. Serj, Paramour, Freezepop and Bang Camero master tracks? Thanks, I'll take No Doubt any day of the week over that garbage. It's all personal preference. Why shouldn't the 3 boss tracks count? People bitch about fighting the bosses, so here are the songs without that hassle. Win-win. You also forgot Aerosmith - Dream On which brings the total to 9 free ones. You trash DM for promoting their album by giving away 3 FREE tracks. What about charging for Motley Crue's promotional track?

3. Both companies can, what's the phrase? "eat a dick" if neither set of peripherals are compatible with each other.

4. See #2, all a matter of song preference. You say III is forgettable but I'll take it any day of the week over II. Don't get me wrong, II is great but for me it fails because 98% of the tracks are covers. And again how is it that Activision is guilty of the "overreleased" tag when Harmonix has put out an equal number of titles? (you toss in the DS game, I toss in Harmonix's iPod game) Still on equal footing. People just like to generalize and toss the Tony Hawk stigma onto the GH franchise without any basis for that claim.

Oh well, to each their own. I'm up for owning both franchises because both have their strong points and doubling my song selection isn't a bad thing in the least.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Never really listened to Judas Priest, hows the full album?

Any standouts if I only download a couple tracks?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure there will be videos up on Youtube by the end of the day (if not already) of the note charts for most/all of them, but The Hellion/Electric Eye is probably a fairly safe starter if you're just testing out the material.

[quote name='Corvin']Thanks, I'll take No Doubt any day of the week over that garbage. It's all personal preference.[/QUOTE]

You went and did it. I didn't want to jump in on any of these "sucks/rules" arguments, but...man...

Faith in humanity = gone.

No Doubt is shittier than everything. Shittier than GG Allin taking a dump onstage for 10 minutes.

People just like to generalize and toss the Tony Hawk stigma onto the GH franchise without any basis for that claim.
Click to expand...
...the claim is based on the fact they are pumping out sequels that further break the original formula that made the first game so good. That's plenty of "basis."

GH3 just doesn't have many of the "strong points" you're touting. The series took a step backwards between occasional technical errors (slowdown in a fucking rhythm game) and questionable gameplay decisions (boss battles, power-ups). It's not really unexpected with the creators leaving for bigger and better things.
 
I set it up with EA on Thursday to get an empty box sent to me, to which I was supposed to send my broken pedal in. Then, they were to send me a new pedal(I really didn't want to give EA my CC# and have them put a $125.00 hold on it for a pedal).
Package was due to deliver yesterday. Lo and behold it arrived around 4pm yesterday. But, one thing kinda threw me for a loop. THE PACKAGE ALREADY HAD A NEW PEDAL INSIDE.
Now, I didn't give anyone @ EA my CC#. So, my thoughts immediately geared towards, double pass pedals for the Metallica songs.;)
So, I ask my fellow CAGs. Should I just keep my popsicle stick & duct tape "modded" pedal or send it in and maybe get a second brand new pedal ?

WWMFCD,
What would my fellow CAGs do ?
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Shittier than GG Allin taking a dump onstage for 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Aw, dude. Rock Band should put out "Suck My Ass It Smells" or "Drink, Fight, and fuck."

That would be awesome.

;)
 
Is it possible to edit a created characters name? My bro wants to change a created character's name from Chuck G. to Chuck G. Cheese.
 
[quote name='y2jedi']I set it up with EA on Thursday to get an empty box sent to me, to which I was supposed to send my broken pedal in. Then, they were to send me a new pedal(I really didn't want to give EA my CC# and have them put a $125.00 hold on it for a pedal).
Package was due to deliver yesterday. Lo and behold it arrived around 4pm yesterday. But, one thing kinda threw me for a loop. THE PACKAGE ALREADY HAD A NEW PEDAL INSIDE.
Now, I didn't give anyone @ EA my CC#. So, my thoughts immediately geared towards, double pass pedals for the Metallica songs.;)
So, I ask my fellow CAGs. Should I just keep my popsicle stick & duct tape "modded" pedal or send it in and maybe get a second brand new pedal ?

WWMFCD,
What would my fellow CAGs do ?[/quote]
When my guitar broke, they sent me a new guitar basically in less then a week. Note that I gave them no CC info or anything like that, it was just waiting at my doorstep. Though I figured screw it and sent my broken one back, because screw it Harmonix/EA haven't pissed me off that bad to warrant screwing them over...

*EDIT: The word of the day is screw*
 
[quote name='D_Icon']Is it possible to edit a created characters name? My bro wants to change a created character's name from Chuck G. to Chuck G. Cheese.[/quote]
Not as far as I know, I think can change personal quote for your personal character, but that it's it.
 
[quote name='y2jedi']I set it up with EA on Thursday to get an empty box sent to me, to which I was supposed to send my broken pedal in. Then, they were to send me a new pedal(I really didn't want to give EA my CC# and have them put a $125.00 hold on it for a pedal).
Package was due to deliver yesterday. Lo and behold it arrived around 4pm yesterday. But, one thing kinda threw me for a loop. THE PACKAGE ALREADY HAD A NEW PEDAL INSIDE.
Now, I didn't give anyone @ EA my CC#. So, my thoughts immediately geared towards, double pass pedals for the Metallica songs.;)
So, I ask my fellow CAGs. Should I just keep my popsicle stick & duct tape "modded" pedal or send it in and maybe get a second brand new pedal ?

WWMFCD,
What would my fellow CAGs do ?[/quote]

Go for the new one.
 
[quote name='D_Icon']Is it possible to edit a created characters name? My bro wants to change a created character's name from Chuck G. to Chuck G. Cheese.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is. Can't recall exactly how, and I'm stuck at school for a few hours. :cry:
 
Just plopped $15 down on "Screaming for Vengeance". This makes for a really fun album to play on this game, imo this is a really solid first album for Harmonix to release as DLC. Here's to hoping they keep the goods coming.
 
[quote name='D_Icon']Is it possible to edit a created characters name? My bro wants to change a created character's name from Chuck G. to Chuck G. Cheese.[/QUOTE]
From the main menu go to the options and I think Manage Profile or Data or something. You can chenge the name in there. I believe theres a couple options labeled Delete Character and Rename Character.
 
[quote name='y2jedi']I set it up with EA on Thursday to get an empty box sent to me, to which I was supposed to send my broken pedal in. Then, they were to send me a new pedal(I really didn't want to give EA my CC# and have them put a $125.00 hold on it for a pedal).
Package was due to deliver yesterday. Lo and behold it arrived around 4pm yesterday. But, one thing kinda threw me for a loop. THE PACKAGE ALREADY HAD A NEW PEDAL INSIDE.
Now, I didn't give anyone @ EA my CC#. So, my thoughts immediately geared towards, double pass pedals for the Metallica songs.;)
So, I ask my fellow CAGs. Should I just keep my popsicle stick & duct tape "modded" pedal or send it in and maybe get a second brand new pedal ?

WWMFCD,
What would my fellow CAGs do ?[/quote]

yeah, im pretty sure they just decided to do this for all pedals (sending the replacement imidiately without taking CC number). They did it for me too. I sent my broken one back though (and no, they didn't send another one to me). im almost positive that sending you a pedal was not a mistake on their part.
 
[quote name='Corvin']Too add to my last post, there are equal amounts of covers in both games excluding DLC. Factor in DLC and RB owns the cover arena. Not exactly the stance you had in mind, I'm sure.[/quote]

Not exactly the stance I had in mind because you are wrong. There are far more covers in GH3 than there are in RB. The whole first two tiers of GH3 are basically a collection of covers. Pretty much anything that is a classic rock song is a cover.

51 of 58 songs in Rock Band are masters. GHIII has 51 out of 71 songs as masters.

Most of the GHIII masters are from the extra songs. I particularly don't care for most of the bonus shit and so my argument stands. When the best songs in the game are covers there is a big problem.
 
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