Superbowl XLI Thread

[quote name='GuilewasNK']Vinateri is going to put the Colts over the Pats next week. He's going to stick it right to them.[/quote]

Just like Caldwell did to the Chargers today.
 
The Chargers were talking shit the entire game. If you can't take it, stop talking... Merriman was among the loudest.

LT wants to talk about respect for Merriman? How about the disrespect he showed to the NFL and every player in the league who doesn't use steroids?

This guy is the MVP? Please. The MVP is the guy who took a 3rd and 10 late in the game and made a 50 yard pass to setup a chipshot game winning fieldgoal. #2 play of the game.

The #1 play of the game was the Troy Brown strip of McCree after the interception, what a tremendous play.

Red Auerbach had a good saying, never apologize for being the best.
 
I'm hoping for a Colts-Bears Superbowl. I am sick of seeing New England there. That Bears game was crazy! We finally took advantage of home field in the playoffs and got past the first game. It's a shame that Tommie Harris and Mike Brown are out on that Bears D. They're just not as explosive running at less than full strength.
 
Tomlinson said he was upset that some Patriots were dancing on the Chargers logo at midfield after they had silenced the record crowd of 68,810 at Qualcomm Stadium and wrecked the Chargers' season, which included an NFL-best 14-2 record and 8-0 home mark in the regular season.

"I would never react in that way. I was very upset," Tomlinson said. "When you go to the middle of our field and start doing the dance Shawne Merriman is known for, that is disrespectful. They showed no class and maybe that comes from the head coach."

fuck Tomlison and Roid Boy, sore fucking losers
 
Tomlinson and the Charger's have nobody to blame for the loss but themselves... They had New England stopped twice and did something stupid to give them a second chance allowing them to score 14 pts. One was when they had the Pats stopped then committed the personal foul head-butt and the second was the fumbled interception near the redzone.
 
[quote name='jcp4322']Tomlinson said he was upset that some Patriots were dancing on the Chargers logo at midfield after they had silenced the record crowd of 68,810 at Qualcomm Stadium and wrecked the Chargers' season, which included an NFL-best 14-2 record and 8-0 home mark in the regular season.

"I would never react in that way. I was very upset," Tomlinson said. "When you go to the middle of our field and start doing the dance Shawne Merriman is known for, that is disrespectful. They showed no class and maybe that comes from the head coach."

fuck Tomlison and Roid Boy, sore fucking losers[/QUOTE]

Then you clearly don't understand that it's an unwritten rule of sports: you don't parade around on the home team's field (especially the logo at mid-field) after a victory. Celebrating a bit is fine and only human, but doing what New England did was uncalled for. I don't disagree with L.T. at all.
 
I remember when something like this happened to Notre Dame against Michigan State in 2005. MSU survives a furious ND comeback to win in overtime in South Bend. They then proceed to take their flag and jam it into the middle of ND's field. That kinda stuff is just classless. You should win and lose with class. There's no need to hot dog and how someone up. Let the scoreboard do the talking...
 
[quote name='Chitown021']I remember when something like this happened to Notre Dame against Michigan State in 2005. MSU survives a furious ND comeback to win in overtime in South Bend. They then proceed to take their flag and jam it into the middle of ND's field. That kinda stuff is just classless. You should win and lose with class. There's no need to hot dog and how someone up. Let the scoreboard do the talking...[/QUOTE]

Let's not forget T.O. standing on the Cowboys' star at mid-field when he was with San Francisco.

It's one thing to celebrate a great play or an important victory, but there's no need to celebrate by stomping all over the logo at mid-field. I was actually kind of stunned that New England did that since they are always the "good guys" based on how they present themselves and how the media is all too eager to tell them how great they are and how they are all a bunch of class acts. Maybe their true colors are starting to show a little.
 
[quote name='Tyga24']Just like Caldwell did to the Chargers today.[/QUOTE]


As much as I'm a Pats fan I so hope that happens. That will teach the team for fucking trading him!

Of course the Pats were supposed to lose tonight too... sooo..... yeah....
 
[quote name='dafoomie']
This guy is the MVP? Please. The MVP is the guy who took a 3rd and 10 late in the game and made a 50 yard pass to setup a chipshot game winning fieldgoal. #2 play of the game.[/QUOTE]

Wrong, L.T. did deserve mvp(it's all about the numbers)

[quote name='dafoomie']The #1 play of the game was the Troy Brown strip of McCree after the interception, what a tremendous play.[/QUOTE]

I agree(should have caught it, and drop to the ground). Still, the chargers GAVE the game away, to many dumb mistakes. (they did this type of shit in the last playoff game against the jets 2 yrs ago, which they lost @ home also)

But that happens , when your team is young and does not have playoff experience. Marty made a BIG mistake on the call for the replay on the McCree fumble, another timeout would have helped in the end there.

Oh well,it's a bitter loss, but at least as a chargers fan, My team is now finally good enough that I can now say "there is always next year...."
 
[quote name='David85']As much as I'm a Pats fan I so hope that happens. That will teach the team for fucking trading him!

Of course the Pats were supposed to lose tonight too... sooo..... yeah....[/QUOTE]

I don't know if the pats supposed to lose, even as a fan of the chargers, the ONE team I did not want to play was NE.( I was hoping for the jets) Because , they are so good in the playoffs, and have so much experience, and are well coached( unlike SD, Marty needs to be fired)
[quote name='David85']
As much as I'm a Pats fan I so hope that happens. That will teach the team for fucking trading him![/QUOTE]

He deserved to be released then, because he sucked!

I think that the patriots are similar to how the broncos are with running backs/running the ball(several different RB's have gained 1000+ yds over the years) .

The patriots can plug in different , average receivers(why do you think they let go of deon branch) and still be successful passing because of a system, and excellent play calling.(oh ,and a great QB helps also)

I just did not under stand cam cameron's offensive playcalling for this game he was to erratic , not a good job as far as mixing the run and the pass.(L.T. needed at LEAST 30 attempts)

As far as the patriots, they knew the chargers have a weak secondary, and they picked on it, and picked on it.(51 attempts by brady, that's crazy) and it gave in at the worst times(big blitzes , etc..)
 
[quote name='Chitown021']I remember when something like this happened to Notre Dame against Michigan State in 2005. MSU survives a furious ND comeback to win in overtime in South Bend. They then proceed to take their flag and jam it into the middle of ND's field. That kinda stuff is just classless. You should win and lose with class. There's no need to hot dog and how someone up. Let the scoreboard do the talking...[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. When I saw L.T. all pissed, I knew something was going on , be cause he has ALWAYS been a class act far as football goes. I have not seen a RB that humble (or good) since Barry sanders.
 
it was a solid game, lots of blown opportunities by both teams...


and i have nothing against the pats, but i will not watch the super bowl if they are in it, i am really tired of seeing them go there (i have nothing against thier dynasty and tom brady is one hell of a quarterback to do what hes done in such short time, half the players can only dream of that) but i am just tired of seeing them there....


on the other hand i really hope the saints make it, such a good story and a nice group of guys! it would be really cool to see them there, seeing as now they are in their first ever nfc championship game!
 
[quote name='anderson08']it was a solid game, lots of blown opportunities by both teams...


and i have nothing against the pats, but i will not watch the super bowl if they are in it, i am really tired of seeing them go there (i have nothing against thier dynasty and tom brady is one hell of a quarterback to do what hes done in such short time, half the players can only dream of that) but i am just tired of seeing them there....


on the other hand i really hope the saints make it, such a good story and a nice group of guys! it would be really cool to see them there, seeing as now they are in their first ever nfc championship game![/QUOTE]

Yeah , I feel the same way, I want to see another team win, like the saints. It would be a great end & story, that you know 20 yrs from now disney would make into a movie.

But if not, I would like to see P. manning get a championship , so he can get that pressure of not wining the big game off of his shoulders , and ESPN,will finally quit talking about , when is manning going to win the big game?
 
[quote name='js1']Still, the chargers GAVE the game away, to many dumb mistakes. (they did this type of shit in the last playoff game against the jets 2 yrs ago, which they lost @ home also)[/QUOTE]
This is what LT should be upset about, not some stupid shit about "respect". Where are his priorities?

The Chargers certainly opened the door for a possible comeback, but the Patriots deserve credit for making some huge plays down the stretch. The touchdown in the last 2 minutes of the 1st half, the strip on the tying touchdown drive, the direct snap to Kevin Faulk for the 2 point conversion, the 50 yard bomb on 3rd and 10 that put them in field goal range for the win, those are all huge, huge plays.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']This is what LT should be upset about, not some stupid shit about "respect". Where are his priorities?[/QUOTE]

I think he was mad about the way they lost, and the other "stuff" was pushed him over the edge. Hell, I was pretty pissed off myself. I would rather get blown out, then lose a close game.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']
The Chargers certainly opened the door for a possible comeback, but the Patriots deserve credit for making some huge plays down the stretch. The touchdown in the last 2 minutes of the 1st half, the strip on the tying touchdown drive, the direct snap to Kevin Faulk for the 2 point conversion, the 50 yard bomb on 3rd and 10 that put them in field goal range for the win, those are all huge, huge plays.[/QUOTE]

I do agree with you , the 2 point conversion call was awesome. I just can't believe that they would make SO MANY costly mistakes. they way they did. Some you could not have helped, like the troy brown strip of McCree.

But most like the head butt(penalty) , then challenging the obvious turnover(TB strip), losing it and losing a time out, which in turn you could have used in the last drive of the game to maybe get closer for the FG attempt to tie the game.
 
What a shitty coach Marty is. 4th and 11 and they went for it instead of a field goal, what the hell were they thinking? There was another 3rd down play when they were in FG range where Rivers was sacked so they had to punt.

The 2nd to last drive chargers had, 3rd and 4. WHY did they let Rivers throw the ball who's been playing like shit, to a side Asante? Samuel is on. They should've kept running the ball instead of relying on their QB.

The Patriots didn't beat the Chargers, Chargers beat themselves.
 
[quote name='gokou36']What a shitty coach Marty is. 4th and 11 and they went for it instead of a field goal, what the hell were they thinking? There was another 3rd down play when they were in FG range where Rivers was sacked so they had to punt.

The 2nd to last drive chargers had, 3rd and 4. WHY did they let Rivers throw the ball who's been playing like shit, to a side Asante? Samuel is on. They should've kept running the ball instead of relying on their QB.

The Patriots didn't beat the Chargers, Chargers beat themselves.[/QUOTE]

i'm not complaining but with 8 seconds left at the end of the game they could have tried one more pass to get the kicker closer.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']i'm not complaining but with 8 seconds left at the end of the game they could have tried one more pass to get the kicker closer.[/quote]

That's what I'm sayin'.
 
[quote name='2Fast']That's what I'm sayin'.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget the ludicrous challenge to the INT/FUM play. Gerald Ford could have told you not to do that.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Don't forget the ludicrous challenge to the INT/FUM play. Gerald Ford could have told you not to do that.[/quote]

Guh...I know. I could give two shits less about the Chargers (don't love 'em, don't hate 'em) but if all Schottenheimer does is make the "tough decisions" and this is what he comes up with, then they really need to let him go. Dig up Dan Reeves or someone that has half a brain.
 
It sucks. Marty makes just as bad calls as the Eagles shitty coaching staff. Some of the calls he made? wow. 8 secs. left and a 54 yard FG? David Akers isnt kicking for ya Marty man. You have time for another play. Either complete it to the side or throw it to the ground. Kaeding doesnt have 54 range. Bad bad bad.
LT had a right. I like the Pats, but they we just classless. You dont go to someone's logo and start having a party on their turf. Karma? Probably.
 
nah tomlingson didn't have a right, he was acting like a sore loser. This isn't rec league sports where you line up after the game and shake hands with the other team.
 
[quote name='jPoD']LT had a right. I like the Pats, but they we just classless. You dont go to someone's logo and start having a party on their turf. Karma? Probably.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure that players celebrating and showing emotion is an entirely new and foreign concept to the NFL, its never, ever happened before.

The Chargers were talking shit the entire game, guys like Merriman were talking shit the entire week leading up to the game. Guys that have never won a single thing in their life. The Patriots did nothing but compliment the Chargers in public the entire week, and waited until after the game to throw it all back in their faces. You reap what you sow, and the Chargers got exactly what they deserved based on how they acted before and during the game.
 
[quote name='DT778']nah tomlingson didn't have a right, he was acting like a sore loser. This isn't rec league sports where you line up after the game and shake hands with the other team.[/QUOTE]

Maybe not, but there are still ways to win respectfully. There's nothing wrong with LT being upset over what happened.

*Sigh* The Chargers owned the Pats the majority of that game, and for the most part Brady looked like crap. But with the number of mistakes they made, the Chargers lost the game for themselves. There's always next year, but damn, this was a tough loss. It sucks being a Charger fan; they let you down each and every time.
 
[quote name='Pylis']It sucks being a Charger fan; they let you down each and every time.[/QUOTE]

Replace Chargers with Vikings and you now know how us in MN feel.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I'm sure that players celebrating and showing emotion is an entirely new and foreign concept to the NFL, its never, ever happened before.

The Chargers were talking shit the entire game, guys like Merriman were talking shit the entire week leading up to the game. Guys that have never won a single thing in their life. The Patriots did nothing but compliment the Chargers in public the entire week, and waited until after the game to throw it all back in their faces. You reap what you sow, and the Chargers got exactly what they deserved based on how they acted before and during the game.[/quote]

You know I think i am going to have to agree with this. I wanted the Pats to win the entire time. But i thought the chargers talking crap all week wasnt that classful..and also..your talking about class when your star player just got suspended for talking steriods (illegal substances whatever) hmmmm double standard? And i belive it was a Chargers DB who head butted a Pats player and get a flag.

Yeah class...what-the-fuck-ever.
 
Did he actually headbutt the guy? I only say the replay, but it looked like the Pats player (looked like Daniel Graham) shoved Florence before he actually headbutted him. Not that he shouldn't have been flagged for trying, but still.
 
[quote name='jPoD']It sucks. Marty makes just as bad calls as the Eagles shitty coaching staff. Some of the calls he made? wow. 8 secs. left and a 54 yard FG? David Akers isnt kicking for ya Marty man. You have time for another play. Either complete it to the side or throw it to the ground. Kaeding doesnt have 54 range. Bad bad bad.
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Did they have any timeouts left? Otherwise, 8 ticks is not really enough time for another play if someone goes down inbounds (the clock runs while they reset the ball and so on) or worse if Rivers was sacked. If he had a timeout then maybe, but if he didn't then I'd say kicking it was a decent call. 54 yards is a makeable kick for Kaeding (equal to if not under his career long), plus he's young and has hit 50+ yard kicks more than a few times.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Replace Chargers with Vikings and you now know how us in MN feel.[/QUOTE]

Replace Vikings with Eagles and you now know how us in Philly feel.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Did he actually headbutt the guy? I only say the replay, but it looked like the Pats player (looked like Daniel Graham) shoved Florence before he actually headbutted him. Not that he shouldn't have been flagged for trying, but still.[/quote]

The headbutt occurred before the shove. When I saw it in real time I thought they were going to call a personal foul on NE. When they called it on SD I couldn't believe it until I saw the replay. The Charger's player got up in the New England player's face then gave a headbutt. Once he did that the New England player shoved him away (sorry I don't remember the player's names that were involved).
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Did they have any timeouts left? Otherwise, 8 ticks is not really enough time for another play if someone goes down inbounds (the clock runs while they reset the ball and so on) or worse if Rivers was sacked. If he had a timeout then maybe, but if he didn't then I'd say kicking it was a decent call. 54 yards is a makeable kick for Kaeding (equal to if not under his career long), plus he's young and has hit 50+ yard kicks more than a few times.[/QUOTE]


plenty of time left. bootlrg out of the pocket and throw it away if nothing is open in the endzone or on the sidelines any pro club should be able to do this. I guarantee the pats would have
 
Actually he didn't headbutt. He was provoking and was about to headbutt but the NE player pushed him away. It was a stupid move by the SD guy #29, since he had a previous penalty in pass interference.
 
People telling LT to shut up is crazy, this is the only time the man has ever spoken, after scoring a record # of TD's, he doesn't show off like some prima-donna, hands the ball to the ref.

Go New Orleans.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']plenty of time left. bootlrg out of the pocket and throw it away if nothing is open in the endzone or on the sidelines any pro club should be able to do this. I guarantee the pats would have[/QUOTE]

I seriously doubt that. It's not a game of Madden. And waht does bootleging it and then throwing it away get you anyways? Strategically that's just rediculous. Again if something goes wrong (sacked, tackled while in, fumbles, trips, intentional grounding penelty, the list could go on and on) it's over and you don't even get a shot to tie it. I think most if not any coach would've kicked it at that point with no timeouts left. All of you are trying to play monday morning quarterback too much, if he did go for another play and it didn't get them anything and time ran out you'd still be calling him an idiot. And as per the earlier post, Kaeding's career long looks to be exactly 54 yards made just this season and he's 66% from 50+ for his career so it's def. not out of his range, I'd give him the chance to kick it. Schottenheimer certainly made some dumb calls that game, but I don't think that was one of them.
 
I do. I wouldve said they did the right thing had they thrown it on 3rd. 54 is way too much for Kaeding. Akers, nope. Kaeding yup. They shouldve given him a little space.
 
[quote name='jPoD']I do. I wouldve said they did the right thing had they thrown it on 3rd. 54 is way too much for Kaeding. Akers, nope. Kaeding yup. They shouldve given him a little space.[/QUOTE]

But he made the same kick like 3 months ago. Also, like I mentioned I only saw the highlight reel on SC which gave a bad rearview angle, but it looked distance wasn't the problem so much as aim anyhow (alot like 2 years ago when he missed like a 45 yarder IIRC). I still say giving the kicker a shot from there is a much better chance than losing it altogether maybe without even getting a shot to tie. Doesn't matter that much anyhow. I mean anyway you cut it you have to call it a big gamble with the game on the line, I don't envyhavig to choose, but I think trying the kick then was the safer gamble of the two.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']I seriously doubt that. It's not a game of Madden. And waht does bootleging it and then throwing it away get you anyways? Strategically that's just rediculous. Again if something goes wrong (sacked, tackled while in, fumbles, trips, intentional grounding penelty, the list could go on and on) it's over and you don't even get a shot to tie it. I think most if not any coach would've kicked it at that point with no timeouts left. All of you are trying to play monday morning quarterback too much, if he did go for another play and it didn't get them anything and time ran out you'd still be calling him an idiot. And as per the earlier post, Kaeding's career long looks to be exactly 54 yards made just this season and he's 66% from 50+ for his career so it's def. not out of his range, I'd give him the chance to kick it. Schottenheimer certainly made some dumb calls that game, but I don't think that was one of them.[/QUOTE]

Bootlegging gets him out of the pocket so he can just throw it out of bounds and not worry about intentional grounding. Granted you risk the sack but I dount the pats would have blitzed.
 
[quote name='2Fast']I don't know about you guys, but I'm hyped for today's games.[/quote]

Same here. GO BEARS!! It's been a long time since we've had a team to get excited about!
 
I could care less about any of the teams involved in any of today's games (except I hate the Patriots), but it's just that both games intrigue me for whatever reason.
 
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