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This thread's great. You've got a ton of PS3 fanboy's in here arguing endlessly because its their first chance to get back at everyone for trashing on the PS3's overinflated price.[/quote]
In fairness I don't blame PS3 fans for posting here, the most exciting thing going on in the PS3 Forum is a playable demo of Ninja Gaiden coming in June. A game which I believe is a port of an old Xbox game.
Great time to own a PS3 I must say, don't worry though, you'll be getting your 3D MySpace soon enough. Decent games on the other hand..........
This thread's great. You've got a ton of PS3 fanboy's in here arguing endlessly because its their first chance to get back at everyone for trashing on the PS3's overinflated price.[/quote]
In fairness I don't blame PS3 fans for posting here, the most exciting thing going on in the PS3 Forum is a playable demo of Ninja Gaiden coming in June. A game which I believe is a port of an old Xbox game.
Great time to own a PS3 I must say, don't worry though, you'll be getting your 3D MySpace soon enough. Decent games on the other hand..........
[quote name='PyroGamer']You people are hillarious.
How
ing stupid would MS be to not release a bigger hard drive? What's the ing point of a removable drive if it's not upgradable???
If you dumbasses didn't realize when you bought it that there would be an upgraded hard drive eventually, that's your problem.
And it's not like you could even get this HDMI and 120GB HD for the same price as your premium! It's $80 more.
Jesusing christ. It plays the same ing games, this is nothing but good news.
I can't believe I'm actually responding to you dumbasses.[/quote]
There are quite a few valid complaints about this though. Its clear that the 20 GB HD was too small and was only an option because this wasn't ready. It's also clear that microsoft was lying for over a year saying they had no plan's to release a bigger HD while they were working on this upgraded system. They knew with their IPTV plan's 20 gig's wouldnt be enough and they knew they could release a 20 GB HD now and then charge you again for a bigger one.
Those 2 factors alone are grounds to be a bit mad. I agree the system is basically the same and will do much of the same features.
How
ing stupid would MS be to not release a bigger hard drive? What's the ing point of a removable drive if it's not upgradable???If you dumbasses didn't realize when you bought it that there would be an upgraded hard drive eventually, that's your problem.
And it's not like you could even get this HDMI and 120GB HD for the same price as your premium! It's $80 more.
Jesus
ing christ. It plays the same ing games, this is nothing but good news.I can't believe I'm actually responding to you dumbasses.[/quote]
There are quite a few valid complaints about this though. Its clear that the 20 GB HD was too small and was only an option because this wasn't ready. It's also clear that microsoft was lying for over a year saying they had no plan's to release a bigger HD while they were working on this upgraded system. They knew with their IPTV plan's 20 gig's wouldnt be enough and they knew they could release a 20 GB HD now and then charge you again for a bigger one.
Those 2 factors alone are grounds to be a bit mad. I agree the system is basically the same and will do much of the same features.
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[quote name='Apossum']...and the motion sensing controller is better than rumble. anyone who has played Flow (or has had to use it in resistance) will tell you that. Rumble is one of those things you don't notice missing after a few days.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit. Flow is a piece of shit (I've written essays on this, perhaps I'll post them later), and the tilting is shit. Have you tried playing Virtua Tennis 3 with it? It's bullshit. The claims that you PS3 fanboys don't miss rumble are all bullshit, and you know it.
Bullshit. Flow is a piece of shit (I've written essays on this, perhaps I'll post them later), and the tilting is shit. Have you tried playing Virtua Tennis 3 with it? It's bullshit. The claims that you PS3 fanboys don't miss rumble are all bullshit, and you know it.
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[quote name='PyroGamer']Jesus christ. It's an upgraded console. How is this bad news?
Your old console isn't going to become obsolete! The old console does exactly the same stuff as it did when you decided it was worth $400![/quote]
The point is this. I want an Elite because I have a use for the additional features. Now, my complaint is, I was loyal to Microsoft and bought there system on day 1 when they had all their problems.
As of right now, I am being told by Microsoft that if I want to upgrade to this system, it is going to cost me $480 - no matter how you sum it up! That is more than I paid for the damn thing initially.
My main focus is HDMI which my TV supports and will get me the addition of 1080p since my M$ VGA cables make the color washed out.
Many of you think that the upgrades are minimal and don't need it, then fine... that is your choice. However, there are some of us out there that would benefit from the new features and would like to take advantage of it. My only complaint is why do we have to pay $480 to do that? Microsoft should give an option for the people that already have the console - at an added cost I might add - to upgrade - NOT purchase a 2nd system! (and I am glad they are looking into this). But as of last night's podcast from Major Nelson, "sorry" does not cut it for me and frankly it pisses me and others like me off.
And for those that cannot see this as an advantage for Sony, I don't know what to tell you.
Your old console isn't going to become obsolete! The old console does exactly the same stuff as it did when you decided it was worth $400![/quote]
The point is this. I want an Elite because I have a use for the additional features. Now, my complaint is, I was loyal to Microsoft and bought there system on day 1 when they had all their problems.
As of right now, I am being told by Microsoft that if I want to upgrade to this system, it is going to cost me $480 - no matter how you sum it up! That is more than I paid for the damn thing initially.
My main focus is HDMI which my TV supports and will get me the addition of 1080p since my M$ VGA cables make the color washed out.
Many of you think that the upgrades are minimal and don't need it, then fine... that is your choice. However, there are some of us out there that would benefit from the new features and would like to take advantage of it. My only complaint is why do we have to pay $480 to do that? Microsoft should give an option for the people that already have the console - at an added cost I might add - to upgrade - NOT purchase a 2nd system! (and I am glad they are looking into this). But as of last night's podcast from Major Nelson, "sorry" does not cut it for me and frankly it pisses me and others like me off.
And for those that cannot see this as an advantage for Sony, I don't know what to tell you.
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[quote name='KaneRobot']The irony of Microsoft's "WE GIVE YOU MORE CHOICE" stance grows more hilarious as the months go on. Thanks for giving us the "choice" to upgrade to your overpriced hard drives and memory cards, or don't upgrade at all!
Choice is letting us use our OWN hard drives and memory cards. The PS3 has it all over the 360 in that regard.[/quote]
Give me the choice to upgrade at a reasonable price Microsoft!
Choice is letting us use our OWN hard drives and memory cards. The PS3 has it all over the 360 in that regard.[/quote]
Give me the choice to upgrade at a reasonable price Microsoft!
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[quote name='PyroGamer']Jesus christ. It's an upgraded console. How is this bad news?
Your old console isn't going to become obsolete! The old console does exactly the same stuff as it did when you decided it was worth $400![/quote]
You're obviously a PS3 fanboy, I can see why you're here acting like a douchebag instead of playing PS3's shitty games, but your arguement is TERRIBLE. If you already bought the system, and wanted to upgrade, you're screwed. If you want the HDMI, you're screwed. How is it good if you want the new stuff but already bought one?
Your old console isn't going to become obsolete! The old console does exactly the same stuff as it did when you decided it was worth $400![/quote]
You're obviously a PS3 fanboy, I can see why you're here acting like a douchebag instead of playing PS3's shitty games, but your arguement is TERRIBLE. If you already bought the system, and wanted to upgrade, you're screwed. If you want the HDMI, you're screwed. How is it good if you want the new stuff but already bought one?
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My thoughts: Microsoft is making money hand over fist this gen, and once they learned (several months ago, no doubt) that the PS3 was going to MSRP at $600 - they figured they could "crush" it by offering this lower cost option at $480. We'll see if they're right or not. Regardless, they're making money, probably a lot more than Sony, and that's what it's all about.
[quote name='PyroGamer']You people are ing riddiculous.
UPGRADE????
You've GOT to being kidding me.
Bill Gates may run the worlds largest charity, but it's certainly not to give you people overpriced electronics for absolutely nothing.[/quote]
yeah i am a little shocked at reading some of the points feeling they should get the upgraded discount because they bought the console. Most people bought the console to play games on it. Yes I want the hdmi outputs, but without the smaller chip/quieter drive I can wait untill the $400 white elite is released
ing riddiculous.UPGRADE????
You've GOT to be
ing kidding me.Bill Gates may run the worlds largest charity, but it's certainly not to give you people overpriced electronics for absolutely nothing.[/quote]
yeah i am a little shocked at reading some of the points feeling they should get the upgraded discount because they bought the console. Most people bought the console to play games on it. Yes I want the hdmi outputs, but without the smaller chip/quieter drive I can wait untill the $400 white elite is released
[quote name='GrimNecroWizard']You're obviously a PS3 fanboy, I can see why you're here acting like a douchebag instead of playing PS3's shitty games, but your arguement is TERRIBLE. If you already bought the system, and wanted to upgrade, you're screwed. If you want the HDMI, you're screwed. How is it good if you want the new stuff but already bought one?[/QUOTE]
you suck it up and buy the new one...you guys have got to being kidding right. You have had up to 18 months to play on the 360...Would it be nice if they had an hdmi output on the current premium system, without a doubt...but to think that msft would take your console and give you a upraded version if ing crazy
you suck it up and buy the new one...you guys have got to be
ing kidding right. You have had up to 18 months to play on the 360...Would it be nice if they had an hdmi output on the current premium system, without a doubt...but to think that msft would take your console and give you a upraded version if ing crazy
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[quote name='Damian']Has any console ever offered this in history?[/quote]
Nope... they have not but have offered alternatives, all at considerably less money that originally paid for the console.
PS2 and GC online - buy an adapter.
Xbox, PS2, Gamecube hi-def - buy the hi-def cables.
X360 bigger HD - buy the 120GB HD
X360 1080p through HDMI - screwed.
And as I asked before, when a console was redesigned or "upgraded", did it come out for a higher price than the system originally launched?
And for that matter... what of those people that bought the damn console at the beginning of 2007? They have had it 4 months. What are they supposed to do?
Nope... they have not but have offered alternatives, all at considerably less money that originally paid for the console.
PS2 and GC online - buy an adapter.
Xbox, PS2, Gamecube hi-def - buy the hi-def cables.
X360 bigger HD - buy the 120GB HD
X360 1080p through HDMI - screwed.
And as I asked before, when a console was redesigned or "upgraded", did it come out for a higher price than the system originally launched?
And for that matter... what of those people that bought the damn console at the beginning of 2007? They have had it 4 months. What are they supposed to do?
No I don't believe a system has gone up in price...I would imagine msft reasoning is that the overwhelming majority of people don't have the need for hdmi, so the amount of customers that just bought one that are bothered by this is probably slim. Is it right, no. It is like the vocal minority that want bigger friends list, but allegedly the avg amount of people on friends list is 26 or so. There is no need to increase the friends list capacity if the overwhelming majority don't fill it up. Just like the overwhleming majority of xbox 360 owners don't have or care about hdmi....and imo it is a big mistake on msft part...they could bury sony...maybe they thought if it had a 120 gb hd and hdmi, then it would seem cheap when next to the ps3..it appears that msft has taken the stupid ing pills that sony was taking last e3
ing pills that sony was taking last e3[quote name='galvatron2k1']Nope... they have not but have offered alternatives, all at considerably less money that originally paid for the console. [/QUOTE]
And you just listed alternatives for everything except HDMI. It didn't have HDMI when you bought it, but it was still worth $3-400 to you. It's not going to stop being worth that because there's now a more expensive model with more options.
And you just listed alternatives for everything except HDMI. It didn't have HDMI when you bought it, but it was still worth $3-400 to you. It's not going to stop being worth that because there's now a more expensive model with more options.
Suck it up and realize that technology advances? I mean really. What about people who buy video cards just before a new wave is released, or people who buy new CPUs just before a price cut? It happens. What you bought yesterday will always be more expensive and inferior to what people bought today. Buying technology is always a game of timing where you can get the maximum value for the lowest price. There will always be "losers" in this game (of course these "losers" are playing right now while Elite owners...well, don't exist yet). But if you're an early adopter who hasn't figured this out, you're in no position to complain.
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[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Bullshit. Flow is a piece of shit (I've written essays on this, perhaps I'll post them later), and the tilting is shit. Have you tried playing Virtua Tennis 3 with it? It's bullshit. The claims that you PS3 fanboys don't miss rumble are all bullshit, and you know it.[/quote]The tilting doesn't work that well that's the problem.
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[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Bullshit. Flow is a piece of shit (I've written essays on this, perhaps I'll post them later), and the tilting is shit. Have you tried playing Virtua Tennis 3 with it? It's bullshit. The claims that you PS3 fanboys don't miss rumble are all bullshit, and you know it.[/QUOTE]
I don't know that Flow is a POS, I mean, my 9 year old loves it. But I do agree with you on missing rumble. It would add a lot to Resistance and Motorstorm. Hopefully later this year when the dualshake becomes the dualshock again they'll be able to update the launch games with the rumble feature. As far as the Elite goes, I don't really need 120 gb, but I would like the hdmi connection.
I don't know that Flow is a POS, I mean, my 9 year old loves it. But I do agree with you on missing rumble. It would add a lot to Resistance and Motorstorm. Hopefully later this year when the dualshake becomes the dualshock again they'll be able to update the launch games with the rumble feature. As far as the Elite goes, I don't really need 120 gb, but I would like the hdmi connection.
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[quote name='Damian']And you just listed alternatives for everything except HDMI. It didn't have HDMI when you bought it, but it was still worth $3-400 to you. It's not going to stop being worth that because there's now a more expensive model with more options.
Suck it up and realize that technology advances? I mean really. What about people who buy video cards just before a new wave is released, or people who buy new CPUs just before a price cut? It happens. What you bought yesterday will always be more expensive and inferior to what people bought today. Buying technology is always a game of timing where you can get the maximum value for the lowest price. There will always be "losers" in this game (of course these "losers" are playing right now while Elite owners...well, don't exist yet). But if you're an early adopter who hasn't figured this out, you're in no position to complain.[/quote]
When I bought it, it couldn't do 1080p which is fine. Microsoft actually gave us a great surprise there, but then the VGA is washed out so no benefit for me and my TV is not 1080p compatible with component. So I lose, I get it. However, if I would have known that HDMI was coming when I bought it... then it would be another story.
I fully understand that technology advances, but at the same time, technology gets CHEAPER. When a new PC or video card comes out, the previous high end model takes a price drop because it is less desirable. I don't see either happening here with the 360 and when it comes to consoles, this is the first time I have seen an upgrade cost more than the original was priced at.
I'm going to put this argument to bed because it's pointless to argue. I feel screwed and there is nothing anybody can say to me that is going to change that. I know I'm not the only one. You can call me stupid, moronic, naive, fanboyish, whatever. I understand that Microsoft owes us nothing but on the same note, I don't owe Microsoft anything either and if I choose to not purchase their future products, so be it.
I will say this, I am happy that the "upgrade plan" is being talked about by their company and IF they decide to offer upgrades to those of us that bought the console the first time around, it would definately elevate them in my eyes and would put them as the clear leader in the console race (in my opinion). We'll wait and see...
Suck it up and realize that technology advances? I mean really. What about people who buy video cards just before a new wave is released, or people who buy new CPUs just before a price cut? It happens. What you bought yesterday will always be more expensive and inferior to what people bought today. Buying technology is always a game of timing where you can get the maximum value for the lowest price. There will always be "losers" in this game (of course these "losers" are playing right now while Elite owners...well, don't exist yet). But if you're an early adopter who hasn't figured this out, you're in no position to complain.[/quote]
When I bought it, it couldn't do 1080p which is fine. Microsoft actually gave us a great surprise there, but then the VGA is washed out so no benefit for me and my TV is not 1080p compatible with component. So I lose, I get it. However, if I would have known that HDMI was coming when I bought it... then it would be another story.
I fully understand that technology advances, but at the same time, technology gets CHEAPER. When a new PC or video card comes out, the previous high end model takes a price drop because it is less desirable. I don't see either happening here with the 360 and when it comes to consoles, this is the first time I have seen an upgrade cost more than the original was priced at.
I'm going to put this argument to bed because it's pointless to argue. I feel screwed and there is nothing anybody can say to me that is going to change that. I know I'm not the only one. You can call me stupid, moronic, naive, fanboyish, whatever. I understand that Microsoft owes us nothing but on the same note, I don't owe Microsoft anything either and if I choose to not purchase their future products, so be it.
I will say this, I am happy that the "upgrade plan" is being talked about by their company and IF they decide to offer upgrades to those of us that bought the console the first time around, it would definately elevate them in my eyes and would put them as the clear leader in the console race (in my opinion). We'll wait and see...
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[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Bullshit. Flow is a piece of shit (I've written essays on this, perhaps I'll post them later), and the tilting is shit. Have you tried playing Virtua Tennis 3 with it? It's bullshit. The claims that you PS3 fanboys don't miss rumble are all bullshit, and you know it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your opinion (notice how I didn't write fact) and remember-- just because you suck doesn't mean the controller does.
my 8 year old nephew and 6 year old niece have no problem with Flow and have unlocked a bunch of the creatures for me.
I haven't tried VT3 with it and I'm not surprised that it's possible to poorly implement it in a game (look for more examples on the Wii and the DS.)
Thanks for telling me I secretly miss rumble and that I'm lying about not missing it.
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This thread's great. You've got a ton of PS3 fanboy's in here arguing endlessly because its their first chance to get back at everyone for trashing on the PS3's overinflated price. I think the really funny part is that aside from them, almost no one is posting in this thread cause "NOBODY GIVES A SHIT." You see, we've already got our 360's that manage to play some damn good games and none of us give a shit about HDMI or an over-priced bigger harddrive.
Why don't you guys go troll the Wii forums now and complain about how that system is crippled too and would cost so much more than the PS3 if you could upgrade it?
Oh, and by the way, the price gap between the elite and PS3 is still $120 so I'm not entirely sure how you guys can say its still a better value. And before you say it, If you're buying a 360 for high def movies the Premium unit hooks up to the HD-DVD add-on just fine.[/QUOTE]
you had a perfectly cool "i'm not a part of this but I'm making fun you all" thing going on until that last paragraph. :lol:
Thanks for your opinion (notice how I didn't write fact) and remember-- just because you suck doesn't mean the controller does.
my 8 year old nephew and 6 year old niece have no problem with Flow and have unlocked a bunch of the creatures for me.
I haven't tried VT3 with it and I'm not surprised that it's possible to poorly implement it in a game (look for more examples on the Wii and the DS.)
Thanks for telling me I secretly miss rumble and that I'm lying about not missing it.
[quote name='RedvsBlue']
This thread's great. You've got a ton of PS3 fanboy's in here arguing endlessly because its their first chance to get back at everyone for trashing on the PS3's overinflated price. I think the really funny part is that aside from them, almost no one is posting in this thread cause "NOBODY GIVES A SHIT." You see, we've already got our 360's that manage to play some damn good games and none of us give a shit about HDMI or an over-priced bigger harddrive.
Why don't you guys go troll the Wii forums now and complain about how that system is crippled too and would cost so much more than the PS3 if you could upgrade it?
Oh, and by the way, the price gap between the elite and PS3 is still $120 so I'm not entirely sure how you guys can say its still a better value. And before you say it, If you're buying a 360 for high def movies the Premium unit hooks up to the HD-DVD add-on just fine.[/QUOTE]
you had a perfectly cool "i'm not a part of this but I'm making fun you all" thing going on until that last paragraph. :lol:
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[quote name='Apossum']Thanks for your opinion (notice how I didn't write fact) and remember-- just because you suck doesn't mean the controller does.
my 8 year old nephew and 6 year old niece have no problem with Flow and have unlocked a bunch of the creatures for me.
I haven't tried VT3 with it and I'm not surprised that it's possible to poorly implement it in a game (look for more examples on the Wii and the DS.)
Thanks for telling me I secretly miss rumble and that I'm lying about not missing it.
you had a perfectly cool "i'm not a part of this but I'm making fun you all" thing going on until that last paragraph. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Coming from the person who thinks his opinion is fact? Simply amazing.
As for rumble, I stopped caring when Nintendo released the Wavebird. Hell, half the time I turn rumble off.
my 8 year old nephew and 6 year old niece have no problem with Flow and have unlocked a bunch of the creatures for me.
I haven't tried VT3 with it and I'm not surprised that it's possible to poorly implement it in a game (look for more examples on the Wii and the DS.)
Thanks for telling me I secretly miss rumble and that I'm lying about not missing it.
you had a perfectly cool "i'm not a part of this but I'm making fun you all" thing going on until that last paragraph. :lol:[/QUOTE]
Coming from the person who thinks his opinion is fact? Simply amazing.
As for rumble, I stopped caring when Nintendo released the Wavebird. Hell, half the time I turn rumble off.
Now it's the 360 that's getting the price point backlash, how ironic.
There's still the Premium and Core models out there to choose from. Granted it's all turning very Vista-ish with all the different models and price points, but at least there's still a choice.
Anyway, to those raging against the high prices, the price will eventually come down. There's almost always a premium to be paid if you want to be the early adopter.
There's still the Premium and Core models out there to choose from. Granted it's all turning very Vista-ish with all the different models and price points, but at least there's still a choice.
Anyway, to those raging against the high prices, the price will eventually come down. There's almost always a premium to be paid if you want to be the early adopter.
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I think the price for the 120gig hardrive is a little steep. I might just return mine now and then pay the 80 bucks for updated hardware
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[quote name='RedvsBlue']
This thread's great. You've got a ton of PS3 fanboy's in here arguing endlessly because its their first chance to get back at everyone for trashing on the PS3's overinflated price. I think the really funny part is that aside from them, almost no one is posting in this thread cause "NOBODY GIVES A SHIT." You see, we've already got our 360's that manage to play some damn good games and none of us give a shit about HDMI or an over-priced bigger harddrive.
Why don't you guys go troll the Wii forums now and complain about how that system is crippled too and would cost so much more than the PS3 if you could upgrade it?
Oh, and by the way, the price gap between the elite and PS3 is still $120 so I'm not entirely sure how you guys can say its still a better value. And before you say it, If you're buying a 360 for high def movies the Premium unit hooks up to the HD-DVD add-on just fine.[/quote]
This thread's great. You've got a ton of PS3 fanboy's in here arguing endlessly because its their first chance to get back at everyone for trashing on the PS3's overinflated price. I think the really funny part is that aside from them, almost no one is posting in this thread cause "NOBODY GIVES A SHIT." You see, we've already got our 360's that manage to play some damn good games and none of us give a shit about HDMI or an over-priced bigger harddrive.
Why don't you guys go troll the Wii forums now and complain about how that system is crippled too and would cost so much more than the PS3 if you could upgrade it?
Oh, and by the way, the price gap between the elite and PS3 is still $120 so I'm not entirely sure how you guys can say its still a better value. And before you say it, If you're buying a 360 for high def movies the Premium unit hooks up to the HD-DVD add-on just fine.[/quote]
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I just think this is so stupid on Microsoft's part because now johnny madden buyer is going to go into best buy, and see a $20 price difference between the 360 and "Dat PStriple" and go for the name recognition and image. I guess those morons would have bought playstation anyway, but this makes it even easier.
MS should be distancing themselves from Sony's price in every way! How does that not make sense?? They've got the software lineup, they've got the hardware, they've got the resources, just lower the price!
Sony's going to stroll into first because of their ignorance and stupidity, and everyone's going to enjoy their 3D youtube/myspace garbage dump of pop culture..
Let's hope it doesn't turn out that way.
MS should be distancing themselves from Sony's price in every way! How does that not make sense?? They've got the software lineup, they've got the hardware, they've got the resources, just lower the price!
Sony's going to stroll into first because of their ignorance and stupidity, and everyone's going to enjoy their 3D youtube/myspace garbage dump of pop culture.
. Let's hope it doesn't turn out that way.
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[quote name='"Apossum"'][Insert PS3 Propaganda][/quote]
Your recent Xbox 360 revolt is funny.
Funny because you used to own one.
Funny because you used to mildly bitch about the Xbox 360 while you owned one.
Funny because you spend $400 to play Dead or Alive 4.
Funny because you're now trying to sway away from your poor purchasing decision with bold video game opinions.
Your recent Xbox 360 revolt is funny.
Funny because you used to own one.
Funny because you used to mildly bitch about the Xbox 360 while you owned one.
Funny because you spend $400 to play Dead or Alive 4.
Funny because you're now trying to sway away from your poor purchasing decision with bold video game opinions.
[quote name='Brak']Your recent Xbox 360 revolt is funny.
Funny because you used to own one.
Funny because you used to mildly bitch about the Xbox 360 while you owned one.
Funny because you spend $400 to play Dead or Alive 4.
Funny because you're now trying to sway away from your poor purchasing decision with bold video game opinions.[/quote]
heh, i noticed that too
Funny because you used to own one.
Funny because you used to mildly bitch about the Xbox 360 while you owned one.
Funny because you spend $400 to play Dead or Alive 4.
Funny because you're now trying to sway away from your poor purchasing decision with bold video game opinions.[/quote]
heh, i noticed that too
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Anyway, to those raging against the high prices, the price will eventually come down. There's almost always a premium to be paid if you want to be the early adopter.[/QUOTE]
Well said sir. No one forced any of you people who are bitching and complaining to be an early adopter of the 360. Now you want to raise hell because you bought a console at launch, and then 18 MONTHS LATER, a new package comes out and you feel left out? Cry about it. Sorry. Companies love money.
Also I liked Brak's post.
Did he really spend $400 to play DOA 4???
Anyway, to those raging against the high prices, the price will eventually come down. There's almost always a premium to be paid if you want to be the early adopter.[/QUOTE]
Well said sir. No one forced any of you people who are bitching and complaining to be an early adopter of the 360. Now you want to raise hell because you bought a console at launch, and then 18 MONTHS LATER, a new package comes out and you feel left out? Cry about it. Sorry. Companies love money.
Also I liked Brak's post.
Did he really spend $400 to play DOA 4???
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[quote name='tayaf69']So here is my complaint for the new system and price of HD...
I can go out and buy a WESTERN DIGITAL 300 GB for $80-120 and it works fine. WTF is the Xbox 120 GB HD almost $200??? I hate Bill Gates. I really do.[/quote]
Not a 2.5" drive.
I can go out and buy a WESTERN DIGITAL 300 GB for $80-120 and it works fine. WTF is the Xbox 120 GB HD almost $200??? I hate Bill Gates. I really do.[/quote]
Not a 2.5" drive.
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[quote name='captmurphy']Not a 2.5" drive.[/quote]
Newegg has a handful of 2.5" 120GB HDDs for ~$100.
Newegg has a handful of 2.5" 120GB HDDs for ~$100.
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300 gb > 120 gb
This thread is friggin nuts. I bought my 360 a month ago. Am I upset that a newer one is coming out, hell no. Just bad timing on my part. Does it take away from what I have now? NO. I agree that MS is screwing it over with the pricing (esp. the harddrive).
Last time I checked, I like to play games. The Elite does not change that. When a few more games come out for the PS3, I will pick that up. Not for the blu-ray, for the games. Blu-ray is a nice bonus, just not the overall reason for me buying a PS3.
Just my 2 cents on the subject. Now back to my Wii and Zelda.
Last time I checked, I like to play games. The Elite does not change that. When a few more games come out for the PS3, I will pick that up. Not for the blu-ray, for the games. Blu-ray is a nice bonus, just not the overall reason for me buying a PS3.
Just my 2 cents on the subject. Now back to my Wii and Zelda.
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[quote name='Indiana']I wouldn't say never! MG started on the NES after all.[/quote]
Actually, it started on the MSX. The NES version was a port of the MSX version.
Actually, it started on the MSX. The NES version was a port of the MSX version.
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[quote name='swetooth9']heh, i noticed that too[/quote]
I think quite a number of us have.
I think quite a number of us have.
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[quote name='zionoverfire']I think quite a number of us have.[/quote]
I'd be surprised if anyone hasn't noticed it.
I'd be surprised if anyone hasn't noticed it.
Tonight's announcement has nothing to do with gaming at all. It's a new web browser for Windows Mobile users. I'm downloading it now.
http://on10.net/Blogs/larry/exclusive-video-new-mobile-web-browser--deepfish/
http://on10.net/Blogs/larry/exclusive-video-new-mobile-web-browser--deepfish/
Guys dont worry, i just heard that at 9 pm cst, midnight est, cheapyd has a huge surprise for us!
he shall delete this thread and we'll pretend all of this never happened....SURPRISE!
seriously though those were so lack luster...to make us wait for midnight to give nothing but bullshit reminds me of the times they wait until like monday to tell us theres no XBLA game for that week.
he shall delete this thread and we'll pretend all of this never happened....SURPRISE!
seriously though those were so lack luster...to make us wait for midnight to give nothing but bullshit reminds me of the times they wait until like monday to tell us theres no XBLA game for that week.
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[quote name='MrGranger']I guess I'm in the minority who don't need the upgrade yet. I am doing fine with the HD space I have so far and don't have the TV to use the upgraded signal. By the time I upgrade my TV and the games are larger they'll probably be on Xbox 360 version 3.[/QUOTE]
The minority in this thread, perhaps, but look at the post-quality. Do you honestly want to lump yourself in with the likes of gizmo?
I promise, the majority of people who already own a 360 (and who don't, unfortunately), don't give much of a shit overall. I have my 360, it works fine, it looks fine, it plays the same games...this decision has no impact on me.
The minority in this thread, perhaps, but look at the post-quality. Do you honestly want to lump yourself in with the likes of gizmo?
I promise, the majority of people who already own a 360 (and who don't, unfortunately), don't give much of a shit overall. I have my 360, it works fine, it looks fine, it plays the same games...this decision has no impact on me.
[quote name='galvatron2k1']Nope... they have not but have offered alternatives, all at considerably less money that originally paid for the console.
PS2 and GC online - buy an adapter.
Xbox, PS2, Gamecube hi-def - buy the hi-def cables.
X360 bigger HD - buy the 120GB HD
X360 1080p through HDMI - screwed.
And as I asked before, when a console was redesigned or "upgraded", did it come out for a higher price than the system originally launched?
And for that matter... what of those people that bought the damn console at the beginning of 2007? They have had it 4 months. What are they supposed to do?[/QUOTE]
Ahh but you're forgetting about the later Genesis models that had RCA output cables when the original models could only connect you your TV through an RF adapter. Pretty sure that's the exact same thing going on here.
PS2 and GC online - buy an adapter.
Xbox, PS2, Gamecube hi-def - buy the hi-def cables.
X360 bigger HD - buy the 120GB HD
X360 1080p through HDMI - screwed.
And as I asked before, when a console was redesigned or "upgraded", did it come out for a higher price than the system originally launched?
And for that matter... what of those people that bought the damn console at the beginning of 2007? They have had it 4 months. What are they supposed to do?[/QUOTE]
Ahh but you're forgetting about the later Genesis models that had RCA output cables when the original models could only connect you your TV through an RF adapter. Pretty sure that's the exact same thing going on here.
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you had a perfectly cool "i'm not a part of this but I'm making fun you all" thing going on until that last paragraph. :lol:[/QUOTE]
I figured I'd cover my bases and get to all the topics that you and all the other PS3 fanboys have been going on about in here.
And along those lines, as far as an "upgrade discount/rebate" goes, you people that are whining about this should give PC gaming a spin sometime...
you had a perfectly cool "i'm not a part of this but I'm making fun you all" thing going on until that last paragraph. :lol:[/QUOTE]
I figured I'd cover my bases and get to all the topics that you and all the other PS3 fanboys have been going on about in here.
And along those lines, as far as an "upgrade discount/rebate" goes, you people that are whining about this should give PC gaming a spin sometime...
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Ahh but you're forgetting about the later Genesis models that had RCA output cables when the original models could only connect you your TV through an RF adapter. Pretty sure that's the exact same thing going on here.[/quote]
I had a launch Genesis, and with the addition of a $9 cable (DIN on one end, yellow/white on the other) it did composite output. Combine that with a minijack to white/red RCA hooked into the headphone jack on the front, and I had composite video AND stereo sound.
Maybe later models added RCA output directly on the console, but the capability was always there, albeit with a proprietary cable. That's not unusual, however, as the subsequent SNES and nearly all later consoles except the first few versions of the PS1 supported only proprietary cables.
I had a launch Genesis, and with the addition of a $9 cable (DIN on one end, yellow/white on the other) it did composite output. Combine that with a minijack to white/red RCA hooked into the headphone jack on the front, and I had composite video AND stereo sound.
Maybe later models added RCA output directly on the console, but the capability was always there, albeit with a proprietary cable. That's not unusual, however, as the subsequent SNES and nearly all later consoles except the first few versions of the PS1 supported only proprietary cables.
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