Tales of Vesperia is coming to PS3; demo on JP PS Store

360: Tales of Vesperia (for now), Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon plus a few others.

PS3: Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles.

I'll be the first person to jump ship once ToV comes to the PS3, but you guys are mindless if you think PS3 trumps the 360 as far as JRPGs are concerned today. The funniest part is that both PS3 JRPGs are SRPGs. I'm not counting the handheld consoles because they are a separate debate, just as the PS2 is.
 
Meh. Both consoles are pretty bad choices. As others have said, I think the DS with all the snes remakes and likely DQ9 alone trumps anything the big consoles have.

On topic, I haven't really played/enjoyed any of the Tales games I have played other than Symphonia. And, while that was a good game, I didn't think it was particularly exceptional. Tales of Phantasia was the only other tales game I put any appreciable time into, and was not too thrilled. Barring the additions of Vesperia being radically significant, I will likely pass on it.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']360: Tales of Vesperia (for now), Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon plus a few others.

PS3: Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles.

I'll be the first person to jump ship once ToV comes to the PS3, but you guys are mindless if you think PS3 trumps the 360 as far as JRPGs are concerned today. The funniest part is that both PS3 JRPGs are SRPGs. I'm not counting the handheld consoles because they are a separate debate, just as the PS2 is.[/quote]

Neither console is a jrpg monster. The 360 however is filled with MORE generic shit then the PS3 however. And the generic does not triumph the brilliant. Which is why the PS3 wins with Valkyria Chronicles which is a refreshing take on a tired old genre, while The Last Remnant and Star Ocean 4 were both horrible and retreads. The Last Remnant was so bad that I think it gave me cancer. But in all honesty, how in the hell can you give the SaGa team any credit? It seems like you're a fanboy if you honestly believe The Last Remnant is any good. Same with Star Ocean 4 which manages to do the heroic feat of being WORSE then Star Ocean 3.
 
I was one of those people who thought Symphonia was just ok. Tales of the Abyss is basically Kingdom Hearts + Dragon Quest with good art direction. Tales of Vesperia is Tales of the Abyss with brighter colors and a better main character.

I just don't get how anyone who likes JRPGs could not like Tales of Vesperia. Unless you like dark, serious games only. The gameplay is pretty much unparalleled by any other recent game in the genre.

As far as quantity over quality, I would give you that if a ton of people didn't enjoy IU and SO4. Just because you don't like some games, or think VC is amazing, doesn't mean the PS3 is a better choice for the genre. Like I said, I'm talking PS3 vs. 360, because most gamers are not choosing between a DS, 360 or PS3. I don't think you're a logical person though, so I guess I should stop arguing with you. I think the PS3 is a better system for sure, it just doesn't have as many decent RPGs.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']I was one of those people who thought Symphonia was just ok. Tales of the Abyss is basically Kingdom Hearts + Dragon Quest with good art direction. Tales of Vesperia is Tales of the Abyss with brighter colors and a better main character.

I just don't get how anyone who likes JRPGs could not like Tales of Vesperia. Unless you like dark, serious games only. The gameplay is pretty much unparalleled by any other recent game in the genre.

As far as quantity over quality, I would give you that if a ton of people didn't enjoy IU and SO4. Just because you don't like some games, or think VC is amazing, doesn't mean the PS3 is a better choice for the genre. Like I said, I'm talking PS3 vs. 360, because most gamers are not choosing between a DS, 360 or PS3. I don't think you're a logical person though, so I guess I should stop arguing with you. I think the PS3 is a better system for sure, it just doesn't have as many decent RPGs.[/quote]

I can honestly pinpoint that you're an intellectual dullard and doesn't really pay attention. Yes the majority liked Star Ocean 4 and The Last remanant. Ignore the vast amount of complaints, glitches, bugs, horrible end game, shitty dialogue, popping textures. Yes lets ignore everything and HAIL the 360 for bringing in Jrpg goodness to the masses! Yes let us ignore the faults of these obviously sub par games and yes let us shove our animu weaboo senses up our ass and forget the fact that most of the 360 jrpgs or jrpgs in general for the last few years have been trite pieces of ass with generic designs, asinine plots, boring gameplay and glitchiness. I'll give you that Vesperia was good, but Blue Dragon, Star Ocean 4, The Last Remnant were NOT. Should I continue to endure your flash bang grenades of concentrated stupid. But seriously, what I'm saying is that at the moment the PS3 has less jrpgs, but they have higher quality ones. Can you say with a straight face that anything on the 360 trumphs Valkyria Chronicles? Can you say that Culdicept Saga is better then Disgaea 3? Can you with a straight face say that every 360 jrpg was great? Hell good? I'm just saying that the better jrpg is on the PS3 and the majority of the torch has been passed down to the PSP and DS.
 
[quote name='Paco']I can honestly pinpoint that you're an intellectual dullard and doesn't really pay attention. Yes the majority liked Star Ocean 4 and The Last remanant. Ignore the vast amount of complaints, glitches, bugs, horrible end game, shitty dialogue, popping textures. Yes lets ignore everything and HAIL the 360 for bringing in Jrpg goodness to the masses! Yes let us ignore the faults of these obviously sub par games and yes let us shove our animu weaboo senses up our ass and forget the fact that most of the 360 jrpgs or jrpgs in general for the last few years have been trite pieces of ass with generic designs, asinine plots, boring gameplay and glitchiness. I'll give you that Vesperia was good, but Blue Dragon, Star Ocean 4, The Last Remnant were NOT. Should I continue to endure your flash bang grenades of concentrated stupid. But seriously, what I'm saying is that at the moment the PS3 has less jrpgs, but they have higher quality ones. Can you say with a straight face that anything on the 360 trumphs Valkyria Chronicles? Can you say that Culdicept Saga is better then Disgaea 3? Can you with a straight face say that every 360 jrpg was great? Hell good? I'm just saying that the better jrpg is on the PS3 and the majority of the torch has been passed down to the PSP and DS.[/quote]

I just really like this.
 
360 has both the quality and quantity fulfilled up until the PS3 port of Vesperia hits. Then for JRPG's both systems have Vesperia and Eternal Sonata, so it's Lost Odyssey vs. Valkyria Chronicles in terms of quality, exclusive releases. The 360 does have more quantity but the quality hits a drop off.

With Cross Edge coming, maybe Sony is finally starting to realize they really need to start getting publishers to put a type of game out that used to be one of their focal points, now being stolen by Microsoft.

I have both systems so I'm happy PS3 only owners can get ES and Vesperia now, just like I hope 360 only owners could get VC someday. I'll be happy holding my hard-to-find LE of Vesperia and listen to its soundtrack on my Zune while the PS3 owners get full voice; even trade off.

Just to rile Paco I can say with a straight face as a owner of both games/systems that Vesperia is better than VC, period. I guess I would give VC an edge over LO because of VC's story and innovation on SRPG play.

Anyone who owns a PS3 and says they're an RPG fan though has no excuse (if they are stable financially) to not get Valkyria Chronicles for $30.
 
[quote name='Paco']360 has Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, ToV, and ES. Blue Dragon was one of the most generic rpgs to ever come out.
PS3 has ES, Valkyira Chronicles, Cross Edge, Folklore, though that one is debatable.
[/quote]
I was under the impression that Cross Edge wasn't all that good. Folklore was alright, but really pretty light on the RPG elements.

DS has TWEWY, Pokemon, and a bunch of remakes. You forgot lost magic, magical starscreen, Rune Factory, Lost in blue, summon knight and several others.
PSP has Crisis Core and a bunch of remakes. Eh I guess you can have this.
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I didn't forget them, I left them out because I didn't think they were any good. Also forgot to mention SO1 for PSP, not really much of a remake since we never got it here in the first place.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Would they include English voices in a Japanese release though?[/quote]

They did for Eternal Sonata.
 
[quote name='freakyzeeky']I wish I never bought a 360 for this game... :([/QUOTE]

This is why I need a minimum of 3 very desired exlcusives before I buy any new system- if something like this happens, I still get my use out of it. ;)

(I am kinda glad I haven't bought ToV yet for my 360 yet now... let's see if a US release comes along soon...)
 
[quote name='freakyzeeky']I wish I never bought a 360 for this game... :([/quote]

Why? You can sell your 360 if you need to, and this game isn't coming out for a long time. Pick up a cheap used copy and play it ASAP.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']Awesome, I'm guessing they used the dub from the original version?[/quote]

I guess. I'm sure they recorded extra dialogue for extra characters a long time ago, though.

I'm still wondering how much this content adds though. If it was like...5-6 hours...maybe it's worth it.

I can pretty much guarantee which trophies will be a Gold/Silver/Bronze/Platinum, though.

Here's a hint:
the 50 icon from the 360 version will be the Platinum
.
 
[quote name='metaly']Forget ToV, where's my mofoing Ace Combat 6 on PS3, Namco? I need my analog yaw.

I can't believe it's still full price on 360, too.[/QUOTE]

wal-mart has for 30$. i dont think thats full price. wish i could find ToV cheaper.
 
[quote name='DuelLadyS']This is why I need a minimum of 3 very desired exlcusives before I buy any new system- if something like this happens, I still get my use out of it. ;)[/QUOTE]
What would happen if your 3 exclusives were Enchanted Arms, ToV, and Eternal Sonata?
 
[quote name='pete5883']What would happen if your 3 exclusives were Enchanted Arms, ToV, and Eternal Sonata?[/quote]

2 out of the 3 for me. If it wasn't for Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant, I'd ditch my 360 outright.
 
[quote name='pete5883']What would happen if your 3 exclusives were Enchanted Arms, ToV, and Eternal Sonata?[/QUOTE]

That's where the 'very desired' part comes in. Usually in the process of waiting for 3 games I really want, half a dozen I kinda want come out. So I'd be a lil' peeved, but still have stuff to play. (I've used this logic for awhile, I swear it works for me! :D)
 
[quote name='MSUHitman'] Just to rile Paco I can say with a straight face as a owner of both games/systems that Vesperia is better than VC, period. I guess I would give VC an edge over LO because of VC's story and innovation on SRPG play.[/quote]

Wow now I am interested about ToV since you really do believe it to be better than VC.:bouncy:
 
[quote name='gamerpro4000']Wow now I am interested about ToV since you really do believe it to be better than VC.:bouncy:[/quote]

It didn't win the Checkmate Arcade Golden King award for 2008 RPG of the Year for nothing. :)
 
Here's an embedded trailer so you won't have to DL anything:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47880.html

ToV is such a good game, I'm starting to seriously consider picking this up for PS3 too. Kinda wish I didn't have the LE 360 version as I would just sell it off and do PS3 only, but I figure localizing the full voice for the US will take a while so maybe I have some time to contemplate it...
 
I don't know. Some Tales fan site thinks ToV is a NA/EU exclusive for 360 since it has the only on 360 mark on it, which is a pretty weak justification if you ask me.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']I don't know. Some Tales fan site thinks ToV is a NA/EU exclusive for 360 since it has the only on 360 mark on it, which is a pretty weak justification if you ask me.[/quote]

Bioshock, Eternal Sonata, Enchanted Arms, Oblivion and several other games had the mark. It means as much as a gamestop employee saying that they heard Duke Nukem Forever comes out in December.
 
I know. I'm just saying the argument is bullshit. Also I forgot to mention they cited
VG Chartz
for some reason.
 
Yeah I saw something like that on VGChartz too. I just hope it comes out... I mean there are extra bosses and Flynn is playable as well. I haven't beaten the 360 version, but I hear they left the Sword Dancers out.
 
I never did the Colosseum battles, so I wouldn't know.

Here's an image stolen from GAF which was stolen from youtube:

yurixflynn.jpg
 
Another XBox 360 exclusive RPG taken away from the Microsoft fans. I am hoping they bring Star Orean: The Last Hope to the PS3.
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I always find it hilarious when people bitch and moan about some 'exclusive' game going to another console. I laughed at the PS3 early-adopters who bought it just for FFXIII just as much as I am laughing at the Xbox 360 loyalists who only bought it for ToV.

Never choose one system over another (that is similar; Wii doesn't count) based on third-party games. Square and Namco don't owe you, or any console manufacturers, jack. Their only priority is profit.
 
[quote name='the7k']I always find it hilarious when people bitch and moan about some 'exclusive' game going to another console. I laughed at the PS3 early-adopters who bought it just for FFXIII just as much as I am laughing at the Xbox 360 loyalists who only bought it for ToV.

Never choose one system over another (that is similar; Wii doesn't count) based on third-party games. Square and Namco don't owe you, or any console manufacturers, jack. Their only priority is profit.[/QUOTE]

Well put and I couldnt have said it better myself. Granted since this gen of systems started out I have played my 360 way more than my PS3 but I still above all am a gamer! I used to be a pro-sony fanboy but now I am just about playing any and everything that is great and it was the best decision I made in terms of gaming. Complaining about exclusives is pointless. Each system has them and short of the sony & MS made ones (Halo, God of War, Gears, etc..) there is always a chance it gets ported to another because $ IS their main concern.

This said I already have 3 copies of Vesperia for 360 (2 limited ed one was opened for the redemption code for Vol. 2 of the soundtrack, one still sealed, and one regular edition to play) but love the game so much that I will get it when there is a good deal on it to play on the PS3 for the exclusive content.
 
two things regarding this game happened to me recently (well semi-recently)

1. I bought it in january but only began to play it last week to find out now they sell it at amazon.com for $30 (instead of the $40~ I bought it for)

2. I discovered how much sweeter this ps3 version sounds.

but honestly, I don't regret it much at all. I played the game for several hours straight and I haven't done that with any game in a long time. And the U.S. localization (if it happens) will take a while for the PS3. I'll wait it out, wait till I can buy it cheap, then play through it again. I just hope they have the original japanese dubs which would make it extra awesome
 
There is a demo of Vesperia out on the Japanese PS Store...if anyone cares.

EDIT: It's a different demo from the 360 version.
 
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