The "Alberto Del Rio" Wrestling Thread

[quote name='ced']TMZ reporting X-Pac got busted trying to sneak weed onto an airplane flight. I can't even feign shock.[/QUOTE]

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As much as I love that image, I would be pissed if I paid for a ringside seat, only to have to sit behind a gong/laptop on a podium.
 
New age stuff.

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I endorse the Generation Me heel turn. Now their tagteam name isn't retarded.
 
The show opened with an awesome Hardy-Angle video package. Then people started to yak about it, Dixie came out and overruled Eric's decision to have a three-way by making a Hardy-Angel rematch. Nash and Joe had a two minute match that broke down into a four-man brawl with everyone fighting everyone, and somehow ended in a count out instead of a DQ while the commentators talked about how goddamn stupid this whole feud is.

Williams-Lethal followed this, and was good, but man did Lethal lose all of his momentum from July. They built up him being on a winning streak, but all he'd done on this show, THE ONE THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WATCH, was lose to everyone he faced. But he beat the champ on the show no one watches, Xplosion, so he gets a shot. They had the most generic confetti and crowd celebration ever - going through the motions just enough to make the claim of pushing him, but clearly not doing that.

TBP of Lacey and Rayne faced Wilde and Hamada, who I'd forgotten were KO Tag Champs. Everything Lacey looks looks hilarious. Match was largely awful, but led to a Lacey face turn. Then Dreamer came out and cut the most annoying goddamn promo I can remember. First, he comes out AFTER GETTING HIS EYE STABBED WITH A FORK FOR A MINUTE without even a CVS eye patch on it, then he spends what seems like nine hours putting over Fourtune, and also mentioning WWE whenever humanly possible. Him saying Morgan 'could have been Kane or 'Taker, but you came to TNA!" was absolutely hilarious...and then Fourtune kicked his ass and I cheered. Then they stopped and did it again. I love these dudes.

Kendrick came out to help, got his ass kicked, but beat Morgan in a quick one on one match. Morgan dominated, but Kendrick hit a running dropkick and one. Clean. Matt Morgan got beat by a cruiserweight's dropkick. Just wow. Morgan should really wrestle in long tights from now on, because he actually looked like a seven footer in slacks as opposed to trunks.

Throughout the show, Abyss was grabbing random TNA staff and dragging them to Black Reign's workshop. Much later, he was shown putting Janice down and instead grabbing Bob the Branding Iron. It had 10-10-10 on it, he branded the dude, and wacky smoke effects came up from the branded dude. Tenay and Taz then casually mentioned this and introduced the RVD interview, which wasn't brought up until the commercial break right before the interview. RVD seemed fairly non-plussed about being nearly killed by Abyss, and rambled about shit that almost involved what he was being questioned about. And he mentioned the TNA Universe being behind him. Hilarity.

Gen Me came out and Max cut a pretty damn good promo. They've got a swagger to them as heels that they lacked as faces, plus, they dress like the biggest douche bags ever. Then they beat up Sabin after demanding he come out and give them the belts. They took him out with the double draping DDT they used to take Shelley out - thus getting that over really well.

Hardy-Angle was very good, but was hurt a lot to me by having Anderson on commentary and just treat everything like it's a complete joke. Having the main event go from Impact through to Reaction worked for me - it made more sense here than it did during one of the wacky brawls they had that did the same thing in theory. The execution worked far better here. One big problem I had with this versus that one though was here, they didn't do anything differently than they would on Impact.

Camera angles were the same, commentary was the same goofy shit - not realism-based like it would be on Reaction, and it was basically just Impact Continued. The double finish sucked. More Hebner vs. Hebner shit, but having it occur during a heel hook instead of the figure 4 as has been teased before was a nice touch. Having it happen due to a move where ONE OF JEFF'S SHOULDERS WAS OFF THE MAT DUE TO THE MOVE was stupid though.

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Quotes -
Angle - I didn’t even know it was a 20 minute time limit.
Hardy - I fucked up by not beating Kurt Angle.
Eric - I wanna congratulate Mr. Anderson for advancing to the finals. He will be competing for the TNA Title, and as to who his opponent is going to be, that’s why I’ve asked you to join me here tonight. You guys, both of you, TWENTY FOUR YEARS in the business and I’ve never had the privilege of seeing a match as intense, as hard-fought, as what I saw from you two.
Crowd - IT WAS AWESOME.
Eric - IT WAS AWESOME, but it honestly, truly, it an honor to be in the ring with both of you guys. The problem we have on our hands is that because we weren’t able to determine a winner, and I’ve talked to Hulk, and I think I have a solution and I think you’ll all like it. We need a new champion, and we’re gonna find that out when Mr. Anderson faces Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy in a three way dance.
Tenay - THREE WAY ON 10-10-10!
Dixie - I had something I wanted to say to Kurt and Jeff. We both spoke after the. Match. You had at NS, I was so proud of you that night, from the moment the bell rang, you never let up and ya never stopped!
Crowd - THANK YOU BOTH!
Dixie - You deserve that - it was one of my favorite matches in TNA, but I know you weren’t happy with the outcome. Eric, a couple weeks ago, Hulk trumped a decision I made regarding Flair. In hindsight, maybe it was good, but now, I’m gonna overturn your decision. Instead of. A three way. Let’s have them settle it tonight on Impact in a NO TIME LIMIT MATCH. THERE WILL BE A WINNER, AND THAT WINNER WILL FACE KEN ANDERSON AT BFG!
Tenay - PROPS TO THE PRES!
Pope - THIS IS BS!
Tenay - WE’LL FIND OUT WHAT POED THE POPE, BUT FIRST, IT’S NASH AND STING!
Guy - Where’s EV2 go from here?
Dreamer - Maybe we go home.
(as Nash and Sting come down)Tenay - This is all about the questions and not the answers.
Taz - What are Nash and Sting talking about? Jarrett talking politics and the games they’re playing - what’s he talking about? What’s going on.
Tenay - We wanna send our well-wishes to Hulk Hogan - recovering from his newest back surgery.
Taz - 8 surgeries in 18 months.
(after all 4 guys brawl with only 2 in the match)Tenay - The ref is counting!
Tenay - NOTHING BUT VAGUE REFERENCES. IF THEY’VE GOT A POINT, THEY SHOULD GET TO IT!
Tenay - SAY IT OR GET OFF THE POT!
Rayne - LACE!
Lacey - I haven’t made my decision.
Tara - Don’t think - do.
Rayne - Stop thinking - you’ll hurt yourself.
(regarding Lethal, who has been on a LOSING STREAK on Impact)Tenay - CAN HE STAY ON A ROLL AND WIN THE GOLD?
(after he regains the X title)Tenay - THE UPWARD MOBILITY OF JAY LETHAL’S CAREER CONTINUES.
Abyss - Watch your head on this speed bump. (Abyss drags a guy somewhere)
Angle - I disrocated my ribs.
Taz - They need to get Lacey a sidecar.
(after Hamada smacks Taylor’s ass)Taz - We got a lot of knockouts slapping each other’s butts. WHY CAN’T I SLAP SOMEBODY’S ASS?
Tenay - DON’T LOOK AT ME THAT WAY. JB!
Taz - I really don’t know who they is.
Taz - There it is - the back handspring elbow drop. Don’t really understand that. Go for it again. Yeah. Didn’t work. It worked the first time, and she thought, which is rare, and then it didn’t.
Taz - Madison’s got the primal screen. Or scream rather. Imagine waking up next to her and making her coffee. MAKE THE COFFEE.
Tenay - And then she’ll rain down right hands after you make the coffee.
Taz - MASSIVE MOTORCYCLE HELMET TO THE BACK OF LACEY!
Hardy - What do you when the boss says work? You work!
Crowd - ECW! ECW!
Dreamer - EV2 is not here. I would ask Fourtune, I’m by myself, to come to this ring.
Taz - I don’t understand why Dreamer’s doing this.
Dreamer - I’m am an of my word. EV2 isn’t here. I’m sick of my friends getting hurt. I’m calling a truce. This is over. When I came here, I tried to make a difference and what I wanted to show you guys, and there’s a little dreamer in all of us, this place is so damn special. I have a personal history with all of you and I’ve seen my company go away, and you guys are the future of this company. And if you can one day look at me and my shoes, this is my last chance, and I’m happy to be here and contribute. This is the house that you built - I’m just looking for a place to call home. Storm, never in this business has there been a guy who went from a tag team in AMW, and then went to more of great with Beer Money. The only guy who did that before was Stan Lane, who went from the Fabulous Ones to the Midnight Express. You’re more than a guy who drank a beer and swung a can in Sandman - and he’s one of my best friends. Kazarian, I got you your job in WWE. You left because you weren’t happy. I remember the kid who came to the Boston shows - look how far you’ve come. You met your wife here - just like I did mine! BIG MAN, another person, I remember when you were just a bouncer at a nightclub. And enamored by what you saw when a bunch of crazy men came through, and when you came in, you were nice, and when you were in WWE, they said you’d be the next Kane or ‘Taker - but ya know what? YOU CAME TO TNA! And you proved when there’s some big kid there, they’ll say that kid can be the next Matt Morgan. Bobby, your WWE tryout was against me. And when I offered Bobby Roode a contract with WWE and he turned it down to stay in TNA. I know your two favorites as a kid were Mr. Perfect and Rick Rude, and I know if they could say if there was a kid who had it, it was you man. IF YOU EVER SAID I’D BE STANDING IN THE RING WITH YOU, the one thing I’d say as thank you. I remember when you wrestled Steamboat for an hour. You don’t get hardcore wrestling - it’s bleeding, working hard, when you want to be with your family, 365 days a year. IF THERE WAS EVER A HARDCORE WRESTLER, IT’S YOU! THE DAY YOU DECIDE TO NOT WALK DOWN THE AISLE IS THE SADDEST DAY IN THIS BUSINESS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! And last but not least - AJ. You…did something that no other man has made me say, and you didn’t make me say it because I have an injured knee. You made me say it because you were better than me. You helped elevate my game and everyone’s game out there. You beat me because you’re the best in-ring performer in this business to-day. And that night, I could not find you, I had to go to the hospital because you nearly ripped my eye out. The one thing I wanted to do, that I was begging to do, the one thing, I didn’t do, was shake your hand. AJ, you are better than Tommy Dreamer.
AJ - I’m that good I didn’t even drop the mic. Lemme say this, I can appreciate everything you said about us - it takes a big man to say what you’ve said about Fourtune, and that’s commendable. If there’s one thing that can be said about you, you’re all heart. All heart. You took a company in south Philly and turned it into a revolution - you and people like you are all heart. That’s why there was a revolution started like no other. You didn’t ask for respect, but you always seemed to get it. You have my respect and I will shake your hand. One last thing, in your 20 years of wrestling, how many others made you say I quit? ONE. THAT’S ME! I don’t need your endorsement, praise, or you!
AJ - You wanted a truce? NOW YOU GOT IT!
Taz - That’s black-hearted, man.
Tenay - WHAT A TRIBUTE IT WAS BY TOMMY DREAMER TO EVERYONE IN FLAIR’S FACTION!
Kendrick - Gentlemen, are any of you brave enough to fight me now? You thrive off of intimidation - my vibration frequencies prevent that. You are low-vibrational reptilians - I AM A DESCENDED GOD. TONIGHT, I STAMP OUT FEAR. WHICH ONE OF YOU IS BRAVE ENOUGH, BOLD ENOUGH TO FIGHT ME NOW.
Taz - He’s talking about Fourtune, right?
Taz - Kendrick beat Morgan!
Morgan - KENDRICK, THAT DOESN’T COUNT. I’M IN AN ARMANI SUIT!
Taz - I think it counts regardless of the suit he’s got on. And he’s only got one sock on.
Morgan - KENDRICK!
Pope - Yo miss…TESSMACHER. I need to talk to Eric, lemme speak to him.
Dressmaker - He’s in a very important meeting right now.
Pope - My bad baby. I’ll be in my dressing room.
Tessmacher - Maybe I can squeeze you in.
Abyss - WELCOME TO MY DEN OF INEQUITY. AFTER 10-10-10 EVERYONE’S GONNA FEEL THE WATCH OF THEM! Not Janice, BOB. (pulls out a branding iron named Bob)
Taz - Did Abyss just brand someone? It had 10-10-10 on there.
Tenay - How’s the recovery going?
RVD - It’s always about working out and improving my condition - like all athletes. He set me back a bit, and I had to train from negative 100, but I tell ya what, I’m feeling good. I know what to do. No one knows how to take care of RVD’s condition like RVD.
Taz - I bet you aren’t happy about being stripped of the TNA Title.
RVD - I really had some momentum going there. In TNA’s perspective, I kinda vacated that/ I think I’m still the champion and I know that the TNA Universe agrees.
Tenay - Any idea when you’re coming back?
RVD - Any doctor that clears me should lose their license. I’ll be back in the Impact Zone next week.
Tenay - Great news - can’t wait.
Jeremy - Did you just see that? Did you see what happened to RVD? If you get injured and you can’t defend the title within 30 days, that title get relinquished.
Max - And unfortunately, after what happened to Shelley at NS, that dude ain’t coming around for a long time. People have to realize that we are Generation ME. We represent the ME generation. It’s all about US. It took the Guns about five years to finally just barely win the TNA Tag Team Titles. Let me make one thing clear - we’re not here to pay dues. We know what we want, we want what we want, AND WE ALWAYS GET WHAT WE WANT! And what we want is for Sabin to come down to the ring and hand us OUR TNA Tag Team belts.
Jeremy - BEAT HIM UP, MAX!
Crowd - BEAT ‘EM UP!
Tenay - IT’S ALL ABOUT ME, ME, ME WITH GENERATION ME!
Taz - RVD is big-time tightness buddies with Jeff Hardy.
Taz - Hardy is doing it for RVD.
Taz - You don’t want Angle behind you - he could suplex the crap outta ya.
(during the ankle lock)Anderon - OH THIS MOVE. IS SO PAINFUL!
 
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"Stay tuned to TNA Reaction to find out Dixie Carter's reaction to what took place in the Main Event tonight."

Interviewer: "Dixie, what just happened out there?"

Dixie: "No comment." *continues walking*

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I couldn't bring myself to watch Impact after I turned it on to see Abyss burning someone to death, I think.

I don't even want TNA to succeed anymore. I hope they go out of business. 7 years and they're 2-3 years beyond their best work. They show zero incentive to change, and each and every major signing, major new angle, promise of a "surprise" or "change" gets over no better than a fart in church. I'm not interested in "10! 10! 10!" because I've witnessed TNA's changes over the years, and I'm simply no longer dumb enough to believe that this one will be any different from the others.
 
Well of course each signing, major new angle, etc gets over no better than a far in church simply because of the fact that TNA keeps saying each of these things is the biggest thing to ever happen in their company history. When you do something like that so often... the whole point of calling it the "biggest thing" becomes lost.
 
That, and they use people so poorly that it's impossible for them to draw. Of the seemingly dozens of ex-major names, the only guy they've signed that has helped them in any major way has been Angle - and that was over four years ago.
 
Sean Waltman has been chronicling his problems on Twitter. He said, “Some c— stole my wallet with 1500.00 in it & my id. Got arrested for possession of half a joint’s worth of weed. Still in NY 4 some biz.”

And later, “Im in NY area with no weed 2 smoke. Cops took it. Anyone in the area want to hook a brother up?”

And also, “i love the websites that say i was arrested 4 drugs. like they dont know it was just weed. I didnt have an 8 ball 4 f—’s sake. 1/2 a joint”
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I'd be tempted to reply, just so I can say I helped a wrestler find what he was looking for. Who was the one on here that said something about how they smoked out Randy Orton (and some other wrestler I forgot) back in the day?
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']That, and they use people so poorly that it's impossible for them to draw. Of the seemingly dozens of ex-major names, the only guy they've signed that has helped them in any major way has been Angle - and that was over four years ago.[/QUOTE]


That's true, and quite unfortunate.

I'm very disappointed to see how TNA handles their talent. For instance, there's Brian Kendrick. There is no reason for TNA to not pair him with a big man, like Rob Terry, and do a long-term angle where Kendrick plays the cocky heel, and Terry plays his bodyguard. If done properly, they could, for example, turn Terry face and have him feud with Kendrick. It's that simple. Right?

Then there are the Young Bucks. Yeah, they're finally giving them a push. But it's hard to take seriously a team called "Generation Me" with people called "Max Buck" and "Jeremy Buck." People lambaste WWE for their naming choices, but, while TNA hasn't had to name people as often, if choices like "Max Buck", "Kiyoshi", and "Velvet Sky" are any indication, they're actually worse.

Velvet...Sky.
 
So according to Kotaku, instead of Fire Pro Wrestling having the option to use Avatars, using Avatars is actually the ONLY option (sidenote: Since the announcement, I thought that using Avatars would be an option and that there would still be actual characters/wrestlers to use, similar to how Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing was done. It's possible that the avatars-only was what they meant from the beginning and I've been assuming incorrectly the entire time), with the possibility of celebrity avatars as DLC. They said that the mechanic and depth [of the fighting] is something people appreciate so they "want to stay with the brand", but pointed out that "Fire Pro Wrestling" is a temporary title and that they "don't know the final name, to be completely honest".



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I wonder if WWE will ask Microsoft to bar the use of their Avatar items from the game. I wonder what sort of micro-transaction items the developer will have for sale, and at what prices. Surely, my hype for this game is dependent on how they use the Fire Pro engine. If they simplify it to just a punch, kick, dropkick, and body slam, I won't buy it.
 
Remember the angle where, out of jealousy, Matt Hardy kayfabe burnt down Jeff Hardy's house, kayfabe killing Jeff's dog?

WWE "Creative".
 
[quote name='Habbler']Joe vs Matt Hardy in a hot dog eating contest which ends in outside interference.[/QUOTE]

Oh no Taz, it's Mick Foley and he seems to be carrying some Tupperware!

get it? because he's cheap
 
I used to play the hell out of the import Fire Pro 6 Man Scramble on Sega Saturn back in 97, some good times.. right in the height of the greatest era in wrestling. I remember I printed out the translations and would read them during class, I was so hooked.
 
Turned it to SmackDown, and there's a comedy skit with Hornswoggle and Teddy Long in school.

Couldn't change the channel quick enough.
 
[quote name='Brak']Turned it to SmackDown, and there's a comedy skit with Hornswoggle and Teddy Long in school.

Couldn't change the channel quick enough.[/QUOTE]

You missed a great Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger match.
 
There was a TNA house show around here(Mohegan Sun Arena at Casey Plaza, Wilkes-Barre, PA) tonight, but I couldn't even be bothered to scrounge up the $20 for the cheap seat tix.

Since when did TNA start doing house shows?
 
The past four years.

House shows have minimal storylines, and rely solely on wrestling matches, so you probably missed out.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']wouldn't wwe want to allow their use in the game (so they would sell more)?[/QUOTE]


I agree. But, WWE seems sorta possessive over their stuff.

And 007, I 'LOL'-ed (see: :lol:) at your Matt Hardy-Catering budget joke. Brilliant.
 
[quote name='Brak']The past four years.

House shows have minimal storylines, and rely solely on wrestling matches, so you probably missed out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I was tempted to go to it, but I'm just so apathetic towards wrasslin' in general anymore that I'd probably just intentionally cheer for the heels to get some heat from the fans.:lol:
 
SD was a perfectly fine little show. It's clearly the B-level show, but definitely delivers better wrestling on a weekly basis than raw. Kofi vs. Swagger, Hart Dynasty vs. Dashingly Sinister, and Christian vs. Punk were quality matches. The tag belts look ungodly terrible in the pre-match graphics, and don't look very good on the guys either. CHANGE THE GODDAMN BELTS. They made them a year ago, but no one wanted to wear them because they were so hideous - THAT'S A CLUE THAT THEY'RE SHIT, WWE. MAKE THEM LOOK NOT BAD. Teddy and Hornswoggle's little skits are amusing - they only go a couple of minutes and don't drag on like say, Tommy Dreamer's promo where he puts over his enemies, WWE, WWE, WWE, WWE, WWE, WWE, WWE, and buries the Sandman.
 
[quote name='Habbler']Joe vs Matt Hardy in a hot dog eating contest which ends in outside interference.[/QUOTE]


i hope you meant to say in a pinfall since that is tna logic
 
[quote name='cdubb1605']i hope you meant to say in a pinfall since that is tna logic[/QUOTE]

There's also an extra platter of hot dogs suspended above the ring and a ladder, but you don't have to climb the ladder to retrieve them.
 
It'll be a reverse hot dog eating contest - the guy who eats the least hot dogs wins, and the loser has to wear a turkey suit. Then we get three weeks of TV building up the hot doing contest being a swerve because they were actually turkey dogs.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Should I bother watching TNA Impact or say fuck it?[/QUOTE]

I thought it was ok in spots...but totally passable overall. Especially the Abyss stuff.
 
Carlito's Twitter said:
“well, i didnt see anything that bad except 4 that Lacey VonErich. TNA has a pretty good roster. That generation me looks like mini Hardys! Oh also, that Abyss segment. how is anybody supposed to believe that? He’s gonna show up next week after committing kidnapping and torture? Last time i checked that’s at least a 25 year prison sentence! is the Orlando police just gonna let it slide and let the face handle it? Not picking on Abyss, i like him. I just hate angles u cant believe. Like when Hunter broke into Orton’s house. I asked him if he was gonna b at mania? He asked why? I said u got arrested and they got everything on TV!..he didn’t find it funny! oh well. And what about that idiot that stabbed Cena? oh, wait a minute…nevermind!”
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Shame Carlito never got to show that much personality in his later WWE years. Then again, it would've probably just kept him among the ranks of Santino and Koslov lol.

That face turn just killed all his momentum, then WWE did a poor job at building up his heel turns after that and did him no favors. Sucks 'cause I really thought he was fantastic when he first showed up.
 
Carlito seems like one of the people you'd love to hear stories galore from...but not really see wrestle.
 
Right after Carlito debuted in 2004. Cena needed time off to film The Marine, so the story was Carlito had Jesus (Aaron Aguilera) stab Cena in a night club.
 
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