The Blockbuster/Gamerush Thread XXI

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Welcome to the Official CAG Blockbuster/Gamerush video game deal thread.

Sadly, Blockbuster has cut down it's maximum trade-in value from $33-$35 to $25 or so and dropped all other values along with it. So welcome to the new world of Blockbuster featuring Gamestop trade-in prices (but without the Edge card and frequent trade-in deals to make it more appealing). Continue on if you feel like there is any need...

ALERT: More POG games (disc-only used games sold for $9.99) sighted at stores week of Nov 9th
Many CAGs have reported finding new shipments of POG games (prepacked previously owned games) showing up on Nov 10th-12th. This is YMMV as many stores will not get them. But if they do, they are usually in clear cases, disc-only, and are priced at $9.99. Some notables include Call of Duty World at War, CoD Modern Warfare, Halo 3, Halo Wars, etc. It appears to be all 360 games this time. These are disc-only refurbs but are usually in excellent shape. Note that these all have the same barcode that rings up $9.99 - if you find the same games with regular cover art and specific bar codes for that used game, then they are not part of this POG stock and will be regular prices (generally way over $9.99 for the newer titles).

ALERT: B1G1 NOW OVER (but possibly returning in late November)
The latest Buy 1 Get 1 Free sale on games $14.99 has ended. The following list of $14.99 and under used games will be maintained for the next sale though. It seems highly likely from various reports that a B1G1 sale will be returning some time in late November. Some are even a decent buy without the B1G1 sale:
:360:

$6.99 or less
Arcade Unplugged
Beautiful Katamari
Blue Dragon
Bullet Witch
Condemned 2
Dark Sector
Dirt ($4.99)
Earth Defense Force
Fantastic 4
Frontlines Fuel of War
Golden Compass ($4.99)
Jumper
Kung-Fu Panda
Meet The Robinsons ($4.99)
Monster Madness ($4.99)
Narnia Prince Caspian
NHL 2K8
Pirates of the Caribbean At Worlds End
Prey
Project Sylpheed
Sega Superstar Tennis
Shrek The Third
Spiderman 3
Star Trek Legacy
Superman returns
Transformers: The Game
Universe At War
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Tennis 3 ($4.99)
World Series of Poker 2007

$9.99
Armored Core 4
Avatar: The Burning Earth
Beautiful Katamari
Bee Movie Game
Bigs, The
Blazing Angels 2
Bourne Conspiracy
Club, The
Condemned 2
Crackdown
CSI
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (or $6.99?)
Def Jam Icon
Devil May Cry 4
Don King Presents
Enchanted Arms
F.E.A.R
Facebreaker
Fifa street 3
Forza motorsport 2
Fracture
Guitar Hero III
Guitar Hero Aerosmith
Harry Potter Order of Phoenix
Hitman: Blood Money
Incredible Hulk
Ironman
Kingdom Under Fire Circle of Doom
Lost
Lost Planet
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Moto GP 2007
Naruto Rise of a Ninja
NBA Ballers Chosen 1
NBA Street Homecourt
Open season
MLB 2K8
Phantasy Star Universe
Quake 4
Ratatouille
Shadowrun
Soldier of Fortune
Sonic
Spiderman Friend or Foe
Spiderwick Chronicles
Stranglehold
Stuntman Ignition
Test Drive unlimited
Timeshift
TMNT
TNA Impact!
Tom Clancy Splinter Cell
Tomb Raider Anniversary
Top Spin 3
Turning Point
Turok
Two Worlds
Viking
Wall-E

$14.99
007 Quantum of Solace
Army of Two
Baja
Battlefield Bad Company
Battlestations Midway
Bioshock
Blitz the League 2
Bolt
Bully
Burnout Paradise
Dead Rising
Enemy Territory
Eternal Sonata
Fifa 08
Golden Axe Beast Rider
GRAW
GTA IV
Infinite Undiscovery
Juiced 2
Lego Batman
Lego Indy
Lego Star Wars (OT or TCS?)
Lost Odyssey
Mass Effect
Mercs 2
Mirror's Edge
NBA 2K8
Need For Speed Pro Street
NFL Tour
Ninja Gaiden 2
Onechanbara Bikini Zombie Slayers
Overlord
PGR 4
Rapala Tournament
Shellshock 2
Simpsons
Spiderman Web of Shadows
Zoids Assault

:wii:

$6.99
Alien Syndrome ($4.99)
Alvin and the Chipmunks
AMF Bowling
Battle of the Bands ($4.99)
Cranium Kabooki
Elebits
Ghost Squad
Guitar Hero Aerosmith
Naked Brothers Band ($4.99)
Narnia Prince Caspian
Ninja Reflex
Octomania
Pinball Hall of Fame
Samba de Amigo
Spyro
SSX Blur
Tak Guardians of Gross
Zack & Wiki

$9.99
Bee Movie Game
Big Beach Sports
Bolt
Bully
Coraline
Crash of the Titans
Excite Truck
FIFA 08
Geometry Wars Galaxies
Guitar Hero World Tour
High School Musical 3
Houses of the Dead 2
Incredible Hulk
Ironman
Kung-Fu Panda
Mario Super Sluggers
Meet The Robinsons
Metal Slug Anthology
Monster 4x4 World Circuit
MLB Power Pros
My Sims Party
NCAA Football 09
Nights
No More Heroes
Okami
Onechanbara Bikini Zombie Slayers
Pool Party
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Sega Superstar Tennis
Sonic Secret Rings
Speed Racer
Spiderman Friend or Foe
Spiderwick Chronicles
SSX Blur
Super Swing Golf Season 2
Table Tennis
Think Fast
Thrillville
Tony Hawk Downhill Jam
Tony Hawk Proving Ground
Wall-E
We Ski
Wii Music

$14.99
All Star Cheer Squad
Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader
Battalion Wars 2
Ben 10
Ben 10 Alien Force
Big Brain Academy
Bleach
Block Party
Bomberman Land
Boom Blox
Bratz the Movie
Cabela's Trophy Bucks
Cake Mania
Carnival Games Mini Golf
Cars
De Blob
Destroy All Humans
Dragon Quest Swords
Endless Ocean
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Go Diego Go
Godfather
Godzilla Unleashed
Guiness Book of World Records
Heatseeker
Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings
Lego Indy
Lego Star Wars (TCS?)
Madagascar 2
Mario & Sonic At the Olympics
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Medal of Honor Vanguard
Metroid Prime 3
MLB Power Pros 2008
My Sims Kingdom
Naruto Clash of Ninja
NCAA Football 09
Need for Speed Pro Street
Nicktoons Attack
Pikmin
Rapala Trophies
Resident Evil 4
Scarface
Simpsons
Sonic Riders Zero Gravity
Sonic Unleashed
Soul Calibur Legends
Spongebob SquarePants Globs of Doom
Spongebob Atlantis
Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon
Star Wars Clone Wars Lightsaber Duels
Star Wars Force Unleashed
Super Monkey Ball
Tiger Woods 08
TMNT
Top Spin 3
Wonderworld Amusment
Worms A Space Oddity
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 09

:ps3:

$6.99
Dark Sector
Genji
Lost
Monster Madness
Narnia Prince Caspian
NBA 2K8
Top Spin 3

$9.99
Armored Core 4
Club, The
Conan
Condemned 2
Darkness
Devil May Cry 4
Dirt
Facebreakers
FEAR 2
Folklore
Fracture
Full Auto 2
Guitar Hero Aerosmith
Gundam Mobile Suit
Haze
Hellboy
Incredible Hulk
Ironman
Kung Fu Panda
Lost
Mercenaries 2
NBA Street Homecourt
NCAA Football 09
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Pirates of the Caribbean At World's End
Sega Rally Revo
Spiderman 3
Timeshift
TNA Impact
Unreal Tournament III
Untold Legends
Viking
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Tennis 3
Warhawk

$14.99
Army of Two
Assassin's Creed
Baja
Battlefield Bad Company
Bioshock
Blitz the League 2
Burnout Paradise
Bolt
Call of Duty 3
Def Jam Icon
Enchanted Arms
EndWar
Enemy Territory Quake Wars
F.E.A.R.
Fifa 08
Fifa Street 3
Formula 1 Championship
GTA IV
Lair
Lego Batman
Lego Indiana Jones
Lego Star Wars (TCS?)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Mirror's Edge
Motor Storm
MX vs ATV Untamed
Need for Speed Carbon
Need for Speed Prostreet
Oblivion
Resistance
Ridge Racer 7
Skate
Soldier of Fortune
Stuntman Ignition
Tom Clancy Splinter Cell
Tony Hawk Proving Ground
Turning Point
Turok

:ds:

$6.99 or less
007 Quantum of Solace
Assassin's Creed ($4.99)
Chronicles of Narnia
Final Fantasy III
Flash Focus ($2.99)
Hotel Dusk
High School Musical 2
High School Musical 3
Yu Gi Oh Tag Force ($4.99)

$9.99
Brain Age 2
DK Jungle Climber
FF XII Revenant Wings
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon
Guitar Hero On Tour Decades
Ironman
Lock's Quest
Madagascar 2
Madden 09
Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword
Ninja Town
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Blue Rescue Team
Prince of Persia
Professor Layton Curious Village
Sims 2 Castaways
Spiderman Web of Shadowns
Star Wars Force Unleashed
The World Ends With You
Viva Pinata Pocket Paradise
Wall-E

$14.99
Disneys Tinker Bell
Drawn to Life
Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass
Lego Batman
Lego Indy
Littlest Pet Shop (Jungle, Garden, etc)
Mario & sonic at the Olympics
Monsters vs. Aliens
My Sims Party
My Sims
My Sims Kingdom
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Darkness/Time
Rayman Raving Rabbids TV Party
Sim Animals
Sonic Chronicles
Sonic Rush Adventure
Spongebob Squarepants
Spore Creatures
Spyro Dawn of the Dragon
Star Wars Clone Wars Jedi Alliance
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2009
Zubo

:psp:
$6.99
B-Boy
Patapon

$9.99
Dungeons & Dragons Tactics
God of War Chains of Olympus
Loco Roco 2
Ratchet & Clank Size Matters
Secret Agent Clank
Silent Hill Origins
Spiderman Friend or Foe
Untold Legends

$14.99
FF Crisis Core
Lego Batman
Star Ocean Second Departure

:ps2: ($9.99 unless otherwise noted)
Disgaea 2 ($6.99)
God of War
Kingdom Hearts II
Manhunt 2 ($6.99)
Ratchet & Clank Size Matters
Rogue Galaxy
Shadow Hearts From the New World ($6.99)
Soul Calibur II ($6.99)
Soul Calibur III ($6.99)
Valkyrie Profile 2 ($6.99)

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What is this thread for?
The primary function of this thread is to discuss current trade-in and sale promos, post any trade-in values you have obtained, and discuss new and used game selection and availability. Please post trade-in values with the date of the trade (or quote) and system.

It is also permissible to discuss system availability, credit issues, etc. As long as it is related to game trades or sales at Blockbuster it is generally OK to discuss it here.

Unlike more tightly focused clearance threads, it is OK to discuss more general Gamerush/Blockbuster issues here as well as trade requests as long as they are kept to a minimum (and usually just during specific deals).

Due to the questionable stability of the Gamerush (and Blockbuster for that matter) brand, it is also permissible to discuss ways of converting credit from Blockbuster to other stores (ie, which games may be used for trading in to other stores such as Gamecrazy or EB/GS). As of right now, we have no indication of Gamerush's imminent demise, but given Blockbuster's ongoing financial difficulties we need to be aware of the possibility.

What is this thread NOT for?
Please do not discuss the flipping of games from one Gamerush store to another should another such opportunity arise (through trade-in deals). It is one thing to "play the market" with trade-in values from one chain to another (GR to GC to EB) - free market buy low/sell high and all that. But taking advantage of loopholes in a single store's policies/promos is frowned upon and has, in the past, led to trade-in bans from GR.

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Blockbuster Game Trading Info
- You must sign up for a trade account in addition to your regular Blockbuster account
- You must sign up for a new trade account at every store you wish to trade at, even if using the same main account
- Trade-in credit can be placed onto your store account or onto a "Value" card
- Credit on store accounts can only be used at that one store
- However, credit can be transferred from the store account to a card at any time
- Value cards can be used at any location
- Clerks at one store cannot see your trading/purchasing history at another store via your account
- Gamerush stores often do not get new game stock until the Friday of the release week, thus a few days later than most retailers
- Depending on state law you may or may not get sales tax added to your trade-ins (and thus get more than normal). You will always be charged sales tax where applicable on purchases, even when using credit from a Value card.

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Gamerush vs. regular Blockbusters
All Blockbuster game-related discussion belongs here. Most threads created in the Deals forum will be merged in to here. There seems to be the impression by many CAGs that if they don't have a Gamerush store near them (see here for a list of GR stores: http://www.blockbuster.com/content/v.4.286.1.0/media/gameStoreList.pdf) then this thread does not apply to them. However, regular (non-GR) Blockbuster stores often run the same promos and generally have the same trade-in values. I'm going to elaborate on the last sentence as people apparently don't understand that when I say regular BB's have the same trade-in values as Gamerush that it means [highlight]regular Blockbuster stores accept game trade-ins just like Gamerush stores[/highlight].

The key differences:
- Only Gamerush stores sell used video game hardware and generally have a much wider selection of new hardware. Many regular BB stores had a PS3 bundle available over Christmas 2007 and since then they have expanded their hardware sales. As of right now (Dec 2008) most Blockbuster stores are selling PS3's, Xbox 360's, Wii's, and DS's. They do not sell PSP's. However, they have also started selling other electronics including Blu-ray players, portable DVD players, and digital picture frames. As a result of not selling used hardware, however, regular Blockbuster stores will not take hardware in for trades.

- Both Gamerush and regular Blockbuster stores take preorders for new games for a $5 deposit (or you can pay any other amount beyond that). Gamerush stores will get many more games in than the regular stores but unfortunately a preorder at either place is not a guarantee you will get the game. Sometimes they do not get certain titles in even if you preorder them months in advance. And even if they do get them, it tends to be a few days later than other stores.

- While many Gamerush stores have cut back on their new game stock, most regular (non-GR) Blockbusters have started selling new games. They usually have a very limited selection of top-selling new 360, PS3, and Wii games.

- Trade-in values are controlled centrally and are uniform across all Gamerush and Blockbuster locations EXCEPT if the Blockbuster is a franchise location. You can tell from the receipt if your store is a franchise store. All Gamerush stores are corporate-owned so they will have uniform pricing.

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Featured Preorders
Most Blockbuster stores (in addition to Gamerush stores of course) are featuring several games for preorder. $5 is required for a deposit. There are a few others in addition to what is listed below:

Multiplatform
Beatles Rock Band
Madden 10

:360:

:ps3:

:wii:

:ds:

They usually get these featured games in on release day like any other game retailer (though note - as of late they have been very bad about this and have gotten many games several days late!). Note that you can preorder just about any other game as the system will allow them to preorder anything they have listed (yes, even at regular stores). I have preordered Mario Super Sluggers and Dragon Quest IV myself even though they are not "featured" as preorders. However, if it is not a featured preorder they may or may not get it in, and it may arrive as late as Friday of the release week (postscript - Mario Super Sluggers did indeed arrive on Friday when every other store had it Tues. or Weds. and Dragon Quest IV never arrived).

Of course you can cancel a preorder at any time and get your deposit back or switch it to another game, even after the game comes out. So don't worry about preordering something they might not get - you can always switch it to something else. However, since I've always used credit for purchasing things at Blockbuster I'm not sure how they would handle a cancellation of a cash deposit. They may simply issue a credit to your account so beware of that if placing a cash deposit on a preorder.

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Current Trade-In Deals
There are no trade-in deals at this time nor have there been for a very very long time. They did however just recently cut down all their trade-in values to Gamestop-like levels (but without deals to make them more appealing as at GS).

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Trade-In Values
Trade-in price quotes will now be maintained by CAG Friend of Sonic in the THIRD post of this thread. The second post will continue to highlight specific games used to transfer credit from Blockbuster to Gamestop and vice versa.

Trade-in prices are usually universal at both Blockbuster and Gamerush, but can be wildly different at franchise Blockbuster stores. Used game prices change on Sunday with trade-in price drops following the next day (Monday). Thus any quotes given in this thread will almost certainly be good through Sunday of the current week. If you want to be sure to get the same value another CAG has reported then do your trading by Sunday as the price may drop on Monday.

Also note that many stores will no longer accept video games without cover art. This is the official policy for DVD trade-ins but apparently many clerks will confuse the two and not allow it for games either. Just beware that it might be a hassle if you have a disc-only game to trade.

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Gamerush website
The old Gamerush web site is now defunct, but the following link will take you to Blockbuster online, which may or may not have some info there about games. I dunno - I haven't looked at it in years.

http://www.gamerush.com

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Links to previous Gamerush Threads (dating back to June 2005!):
1 (by no means the first one but the earliest that can be found - check it out for some drama)
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Has anyone traded in Stoked (360)? It dropped very quickly to $10 at TRU (the game only came out in Feb).

And I overheard an employee conversation about Blockbuster destroying old DVDs that they can't sell, is this true? He was stacking up a pile of them to get rid of. Apparently they can get credit from the distributor if they dispose of them (similar to strategy guides I guess?)
 
In remembrance of the good ol' days of Blockbuster I've changed my avatar - if only we still had the luxury of worrying about those any more.
 
[quote name='dinovelvet']Has anyone traded in Stoked (360)? It dropped very quickly to $10 at TRU (the game only came out in Feb).

And I overheard an employee conversation about Blockbuster destroying old DVDs that they can't sell, is this true? He was stacking up a pile of them to get rid of. Apparently they can get credit from the distributor if they dispose of them (similar to strategy guides I guess?)[/quote]

This country is quite possibly the epiteme of wasteful. I can't wait until we go into a full-blown depression.

How that'll fix stupid company policies, I don't know...
 
[quote name='jdawgg76']BBV/GR started changing TIVs whenever they wanted (as opposed to Mondays)when they made the TIV value change and stopped having such good trade in values on most everything. I've been posting this week whenever I traded a RR in so that people would know the TIV held and I'm left with 3 RRs, two for 360 and 1 for ps3. I opened the ps3 one, but didn't trade it in when they were getting spooked by accepting Singstar bundle and I didn't get out to trade it again. At least I can return the 360 copies and maybe GS will offer a little more with the tiered bonus trade.

By the way, it's not nearly as bad as reviews make it out to be. I feel it's worth the 5 i paid at target although I'll never play beyond medium difficulty. That may be harder than expert on Rock Band.

Anyway, I confirmed $4 TIV for Rock Revolution for 360 and also got a TIV for:

360 XBlades $25

Not bad if: Target - 75% off = $15 - $5 rebate = $10 cost = $25 credit at BB. Although you have to do a rebate and it's probably one per household.

Has the PS3 version of RR been confirmed at $4 TIV? Seems like posts are unclear or 360.[/quote]

Did you actually try X-Blades? I'm just wondering, since I've heard good and bad things about it. Now, if only my Target would have a copy for PS3 for $15.
 
[quote name='thehoweller']This country is quite possibly the epiteme of wasteful. I can't wait until we go into a full-blown depression.

How that'll fix stupid company policies, I don't know...[/quote]

We do it because of publisher relations...not cause they can not sell them. Sometimes the publisher will sell us movies at a discount, but we will have to destroy 50% of our stock of that movie after a month. This means the movies do not go used, which means if they want the movie, they have to buy it brand new.

its not wasteful, its business. BBV is just trying to stay in business, and this is one of the ways. Not to mention this has been going on probably since the company opened.
 
[quote name='mrmustang16']We do it because of publisher relations...not cause they can not sell them. Sometimes the publisher will sell us movies at a discount, but we will have to destroy 50% of our stock of that movie after a month. This means the movies do not go used, which means if they want the movie, they have to buy it brand new.

its not wasteful, its business. BBV is just trying to stay in business, and this is one of the ways. Not to mention this has been going on probably since the company opened.[/quote]

I don't think he was singling out BBV as wasteful, but since this goes on across all retailers, he was referring to the system.

Calling it business does not make it any less wasteful. To produce product only to destroy it is definitely a waste of resources. The fact is that this is a part of capitalism. Businesses are not concerned with making sure nothing goes to waste, but with making money.
 
[quote name='PapaSmerf']I don't think he was singling out BBV as wasteful, but since this goes on across all retailers, he was referring to the system.

Calling it business does not make it any less wasteful. To produce product only to destroy it is definitely a waste of resources. The fact is that this is a part of capitalism. Businesses are not concerned with making sure nothing goes to waste, but with making money.[/quote]

They're not making it just to destroy it. They're making it, renting it, making their money off of it, and then destroying it when it won't rent anymore.

Also, the word we were looking for is epitome...epitome. Better luck next time.
 
[quote name='rifle21']They're not making it just to destroy it. They're making it, renting it, making their money off of it, and then destroying it when it won't rent anymore.

Also, the word we were looking for is epitome...epitome. Better luck next time.[/quote]

I did not say the purpose of making it was to destroy it, but in some cases such as strategy guides they are destroyed and not consumed (used) at all.
 
[quote name='rifle21']They're not making it just to destroy it. They're making it, renting it, making their money off of it, and then destroying it when it won't rent anymore.

Also, the word we were looking for is epitome...epitome. Better luck next time.[/quote]

Nothing like blatantly insulting another member for a misspelled word. Brilliance only shows in dull people I guess.
 
[quote name='thehoweller']Nothing like blatantly insulting another member for a misspelled word. Brilliance only shows in dull people I guess.[/quote]

I would have agreed with you until I read your post that he was replying to.

You can't wait for us to go into a full-blown depression? Seriously? I'd just be grateful he only insulted you for the misspelled word.
 
[quote name='PapaSmerf']I don't think he was singling out BBV as wasteful, but since this goes on across all retailers, he was referring to the system.

Calling it business does not make it any less wasteful. To produce product only to destroy it is definitely a waste of resources. The fact is that this is a part of capitalism. Businesses are not concerned with making sure nothing goes to waste, but with making money.[/QUOTE]

Don't think of it as destroying a $20 DVD. If you pay for a digital download of a movie, watch it, then delete it because it's expired, that's not wasteful, is it? This practice isn't much different, other than the small amount of materials in a disk (which can perhaps be recycled) and the cost of making it. If they know beforehand that they're going to do this, they don't even have to make cases or inserts, just disks. I don't think disks cost much to make - America Online sent me hundreds of them in the 90s. Destroying DVDs isn't really anything like dumping milk or crushing EV1s.
 
Actually digital download is an example of a practice that cuts waste and overhead, so it actually helps the business make money by reducing resource and distribution costs.

AOL and their CD's IS the epiteme SIC of waste and not just of resources:lol:. Made them money for a while though.
 
[quote name='PapaSmerf']Actually digital download is an example of a practice that cuts waste and overhead, so it actually helps the business make money by reducing resource and distribution costs.

AOL and their CD's IS the epiteme SIC of waste and not just of resources:lol:. Made them money for a while though.[/QUOTE]

But the waste was largely because we didn't want or need them. That isn't the case with DVDs. I love the convenience of digital downloads, but I'm not sure it's the most efficient method yet, especially for HD. Create a Blu-ray and rent it to 20 people and you've transferred roughly a terabyte of information. That's got tta be worth sacrificing a little plastic, right? And even if not, is this the best front to be fighting this battle? Each family's share of the DVD carnage is far less than one disk per month. In terms of raw materials, it's maybe 1 gram per month. How many plastic water bottles and did they throw out over that period?
 
[quote name='woof321']But the waste was largely because we didn't want or need them. That isn't the case with DVDs. I love the convenience of digital downloads, but I'm not sure it's the most efficient method yet, especially for HD. Create a Blu-ray and rent it to 20 people and you've transferred roughly a terabyte of information. That's got tta be worth sacrificing a little plastic, right?[/quote]
I'm not sure I'm following you here. Blockbuster does destroy these movies, as BB destroys guides; it's not necessary for the movies to exist. It's necessary for archaic business practices to continue. I don't think it's the MOST wasteful thing a company can do, but it is wasteful and not necessary to rent a movie. And I believe the distributors/studios/etc are probably largely to blame as well, since they probably set these terms and won't ever change them.
And even if not, is this the best front to be fighting this battle? Each family's share of the DVD carnage is far less than one disk per month. In terms of raw materials, it's maybe 1 gram per month. How many plastic water bottles and did they throw out over that period?
That's neither here nor there; if everyone stopped throwing away water bottles blockbuster would still be destroying these movies.
 
[quote name='woof321']But the waste was largely because we didn't want or need them. That isn't the case with DVDs. I love the convenience of digital downloads, but I'm not sure it's the most efficient method yet, especially for HD. Create a Blu-ray and rent it to 20 people and you've transferred roughly a terabyte of information. That's got tta be worth sacrificing a little plastic, right? And even if not, is this the best front to be fighting this battle? Each family's share of the DVD carnage is far less than one disk per month. In terms of raw materials, it's maybe 1 gram per month. How many plastic water bottles and did they throw out over that period?[/quote]

I looked back at the original post and it indeed stemmed from DVD's being stacked up for destruction, but the post was on waste in general in this country and I took it a step further to capitalism in general. There is no disputing the fact that a business will not be greatly concerned with waste unless it somehow affects their bottom line either through cost savings or consumer perception and demand. Renting DVD's, I would contend, prevents waste. As I was commenting in general, your example of the plastic water bottles further supports my original comment. These sellers of bottled water won't be greatly concerned with all the plastic ending up in landfills unless the public stops buying it and the sellers believe demand has lessened for this reason. They and their stockholders (including myself) are just thrilled that people will pay them for something that is "free" for most people. I was not judging the practice, only pointing it out.

Enjoy (or not) these posts while they are available as they will most likely be deleted. This discussion has taken place many times before and hopefully there will be something to post about BBV to get us all back on topic.
 
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[quote name='Cloggerdude']I would have agreed with you until I read your post that he was replying to.

You can't wait for us to go into a full-blown depression? Seriously? I'd just be grateful he only insulted you for the misspelled word.[/quote]

Off subject once again. Yes, I would like a depression to smash this country in the face. Maybe we'd start making our own products then.

I don't quite understand why we feel it's advantageous to outsource everything but our food (which is likely 60% outsourced). That money sure is nice, but the degradation of the dollar makes it less worthwhile now.

But whatever, hoping this "recession" rides on out will make things worse when the shit does hit the fan.

I hope I can move out of America in short time, doubt it'll happen though.
 
[quote name='GrilledWitOnions']I'm not sure I'm following you here. Blockbuster does destroy these movies, as BB destroys guides; it's not necessary for the movies to exist. It's necessary for archaic business practices to continue. I don't think it's the MOST wasteful thing a company can do, but it is wasteful and not necessary to rent a movie. And I believe the distributors/studios/etc are probably largely to blame as well, since they probably set these terms and won't ever change them.[/QUOTE]

But what is being wasted? Not the copy of the information, that's nothing, I delete digital downloads all the time. Not the materials, it probably costs more resources to drive a DVD back to the store than it'd cost to stamp a new one. Let's just be honest and admit that what bothers us about this is that it deprives us of cheap DVDs. But cheap DVDs aren't exactly an inalienable right. Anyway, it's the thrill of the hunt that keeps me going. I say, let em destroy a few disks. I'll just laugh back at them and say "nice try, but I think I'll keep my $20, and hey, look what I just bought for for $5 at the local pawn shop."

PS: destroying guides seems pretty different, since they are not offered for sale in any form after pulled.
 
[quote name='thehoweller']Off subject once again. Yes, I would like a depression to smash this country in the face. Maybe we'd start making our own products then.

I don't quite understand why we feel it's advantageous to outsource everything but our food (which is likely 60% outsourced). That money sure is nice, but the degradation of the dollar makes it less worthwhile now.

But whatever, hoping this "recession" rides on out will make things worse when the shit does hit the fan.

I hope I can move out of America in short time, doubt it'll happen though.[/quote]

Oh boy!, Here's a bucket of kerosene for ya!
 
[quote name='woof321']

PS: destroying guides seems pretty different, since they are not offered for sale in any form after pulled.[/quote]

Now you're really seeing my point. Just like since I can't have my girlfriend, no one can.

EDIT: Okay, not really my stated point, but it does describe the strategy guide practice.
 
Oy, people, let's please stop here before this gets really out of hand, OK?

I happen to agree that it seems a waste (and a shame) that all this kind of stuff is destroyed, but it is what it is and really has nothing to do with this thread - unless you can somehow find a way to get the stuff before they destroy it ;). When i started playing Oblivion the other day I was using one of the guides I got from my GR store when they closed. The manager was supposed to destroy ALL the guides they had - literally 100's of them. The bastard wasn't even going to recycle them - he was just going to toss them. I convinced him to let me keep a bunch (got about 50) but he insisted on ripping the back covers off them all, which was annoying but worth it for all I got. Even if I end up never using the others at least I will recycle them.
 
[quote name='jdawgg76']BBV/GR started changing TIVs whenever they wanted (as opposed to Mondays)when they made the TIV value change and stopped having such good trade in values on most everything. [/QUOTE]
Right, but I thought we only had one confirmation of it happening in the middle of the week-- that one day where they decided to fuck up every TIV. It's possible no one noticed dropping TIVs at whichever point because we barely posted TIVs. The Rock Revolution is definitely confirmation they've done away with the old system of only updating on Mondays and the first time wasn't a one time fluke. Now I gotta fix the third post and post the dates we get TIVs.
 
Good point, sorry about getting off topic. I think that it's just that after years of hating BBV and their employees, they've actually been pretty helpful in the past 10 months since I restarted flipping. They've done things like looking at multiple disks to find the best one, swapping out the rental cases for real ones, going to the shelf to find manuals, etc. There've been a few jerks, but most have been pleasant and helpful, and most of them will probably lose their jobs soon. All I've given them in return is Rock Revolution and the like. I guess that guilt pushed me to defend them when I thought they're unjustifiably criticized.
 
[quote name='thehoweller']Off subject once again. Yes, I would like a depression to smash this country in the face. Maybe we'd start making our own products then.

I don't quite understand why we feel it's advantageous to outsource everything but our food (which is likely 60% outsourced). That money sure is nice, but the degradation of the dollar makes it less worthwhile now.

But whatever, hoping this "recession" rides on out will make things worse when the shit does hit the fan.

I hope I can move out of America in short time, doubt it'll happen though.[/quote]

I think before you go wishing for such things you should read this book http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061245585/?tag=yahhyd-20&hvadid=53813992511&ref=pd_sl_65txh4qxr9_e

Or at least read this http://watch.pair.com/reich.html
 
The path of this thread is just sad. I came here to check up on Blockbuster but I stumbled into several CAGs' Blog postings. ...
 
[quote name='Joe Sparxxx']Does anyone know what the TIV on stoked? I bought it last night and I don't like it much.[/quote]



Now this post reminds me of the good ol' days. Finally, we are back on topic! :rofl:
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Did you actually try X-Blades? I'm just wondering, since I've heard good and bad things about it. Now, if only my Target would have a copy for PS3 for $15.[/quote]No, I just got a TIV cause there are several in the area at Target and it's about time for the drop to 75% off. Seems like a 5 dollarish game to me.

I doubt Stoked has much of a TIV cause it started off at $40, but since it's so new there's a chance it's still 20ish or so. I tried it out and it's not too bad, but you can sure see that it's a budget game right off the bat in the tutorials.
 
For what it's worth fellas, notwithstanding the current state of flipping and BBV, I'd like to give a great deal of thanks to iO for running this thread for so long and so well. This thread has been one of the biggest reasons why I have gotten so much so little over. So even if its over, I'm walking away happy and grateful. Thanks io!
 
[quote name='bgame2']For what it's worth fellas, notwithstanding the current state of flipping and BBV, I'd like to give a great deal of thanks to iO for running this thread for so long and so well. This thread has been one of the biggest reasons why I have gotten so much so little over. So even if its over, I'm walking away happy and grateful. Thanks io![/quote]

Ditto... It's truly been an adventure. Thanks iO.
 
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[quote name='bgame2']For what it's worth fellas, notwithstanding the current state of flipping and BBV, I'd like to give a great deal of thanks to iO for running this thread for so long and so well. This thread has been one of the biggest reasons why I have gotten so much so little over. So even if its over, I'm walking away happy and grateful. Thanks io![/quote]

I'm gonna add my two cents here too and thank IO for maintaining the thread, since without the updates I would've never been able to pick up both Little Big Planet and Mercenaries 2 this past year for wayyyyy less than retail thanks to cheap credit from flipping.

Although, I will say that Hollywood Video deciding to do that $4 game sale certainly helped a bunch, as well as CC still being in business last year with their clearance game bins I ravaged for cheap trade fodder.

Thanks to that monumental sale, I quickly made enough for a PS3 @ Gamestop and enough left over for some games. Mind you, I used the credit for a Wii and a few games for my one buddies bro-in-law and nieces, as well as a copy of the WOW: WOTLK LE.
 
Tried tonight when I killed the last of my credit with them. Stoked is not in the system and therefor no trade value.

It really is over with Blockbuster - whether they go out of business or not. The TIV massacre just killed it all for most everyone. Flipping a game to make a desperate 7 bucks per copy is not my idea of how it should be

It was fun while it lasted - and made an outstanding contribution to my games library.......

Thanks everyone - particularly io!
 
[quote name='Xfactor19990']so im still confused why is everyone proclaiming the death of blockbuster?[/QUOTE]
It is real simple they are turning into another Gamestop with horrible trade values and messed up stock whixh will be their demise since most people won't deal with them trading wise anymore.

I would fall into that group since I haven't traded a game into them in months nor have I attempted to buy anything either.
 
Considering the amount of hassle I also got when I would buy a new game on impulse from BBV, keep it unopened and then try to return it within the 30 days I believe they give you, that's why I rarely dealt with them outside of flipping games I got super cheap for stuff I KNEW I was going to keep.

Even though I hate to say it and the policy IS used and abused frequently, I actually like the Gamestop 7 day no questions asked return policy on ANY used games.

Mind you, many people use that as a 'free rental period' and play the game for 6 days and take it back on the 7th day and either get another game or get their cash/credit back, but at least Gamestop HAS it.

If you buy something used from Blockbuster, you're stuck with two options: either keep the game and be out the $$$/credit or get something different with the STORE CREDIT they give you for said return.

While it's very unfriendly to consumers, they at least don't have to worry about abuse to some extent like with GS's policy.
 
[quote name='Xfactor19990']o damn well then i guess ill use $50 in credit towards Prototype, or are there any decent flips from BBV to Gamecrazy, or ebgames[/quote]

I'm guessing you haven't been following the thread much lately. Not only are there not really any "decent" flips. At this point, there's practically nothing to flip. BBV sold off most of their game inventory this past week. As many CAGs have reported, only a handful of games were kept. As far as new releases go, we were also informed they would only get in what people pre-ordered. I'd advise anybody still holding onto credit to use it for something you actually want, while you still have the chance.
 
[quote name='cdeener']It is real simple they are turning into another Gamestop with horrible trade values and messed up stock whixh will be their demise since most people won't deal with them trading wise anymore.[/quote]
Not only the bad TIVs, but also no Edge (or similar program) and they don't run weekly specials and promos like GS.

So even if BBV does give you a dollar or 2 more on most games, it's really worth more at GS with promos usually. Add that to having better options to spend your credit on, there's not much of a reason to trade into BBV at all.
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']Right, but I thought we only had one confirmation of it happening in the middle of the week-- that one day where they decided to fuck up every TIV. It's possible no one noticed dropping TIVs at whichever point because we barely posted TIVs. The Rock Revolution is definitely confirmation they've done away with the old system of only updating on Mondays and the first time wasn't a one time fluke. Now I gotta fix the third post and post the dates we get TIVs.[/quote]Honestly, I haven't done a lot of trading in after the TIV change. That change in TIVs on a different day burned me and it just stuck out to me so I kept it in mind that they could possibly change anytime, but I don't know if it's only happened once or twice overall.

[quote name='bgame2']For what it's worth fellas, notwithstanding the current state of flipping and BBV, I'd like to give a great deal of thanks to iO for running this thread for so long and so well. This thread has been one of the biggest reasons why I have gotten so much so little over. So even if its over, I'm walking away happy and grateful. Thanks io![/quote]Yeah, I'm not ready to give up on BB yet, but lots of thanks to IO, FOS, Warner, our other insiders, and everyone for contributing. Thanks to this thread I got my 60GB BC PS3 for about 115 out of pocket, a DS Lite, games I really wanted when they first came out, controllers and points cards which are never on sale, and tons of games all on the very cheap, not even to mention flipping credit back and forth with GS to get a 360 elite, Wii, and tons of more games. Wow, I never realized how much BB contributed to my gaming, all of my current gen systems were bought there or at least contributed to by flipping from BB to GS, plus I wouldn't have even thought to look for a BC PS3 there and I would have paid full price at KMart (the only other place I saw a BC PS3 at the point I decided to get one)if I even got one. I think this thread will still have viability and I will still look for 2x flips (Xblades is close and maybe MLB Manager, anyone know that TIV?) to use mostly towards accessories and points cards and of course B1G1s on used, but just in case the end is near, thanks again everyone!
 
Just happened to stop by BBV with a friend and found a new copy of :360: RockBand 2 (game only) that was part of the clearance left over. Almost bought it new elsewhere at $59.99, but got it at $34.99. They have A LOT of new :360: GTA IV at $29.99 as well.
 
I'd also like to thank IO for maintaining and contributing to this thread, as well as everyone else who reported TIV's, answered questions, etc. I got into CAG originally during this last Black Friday, but got into flipping from the BBV B1G1 over new years.

I don't know about you guys, but I think we should keep a bit of optimism and be looking forward to the possibility of a summer B1G1. Maybe Memorial Day? 4th of July? Tish'ah B'av? There is a tucked away BBV around these parts that has way too many used games, and I seem to be their only video game customer (based on the changes of inventory between my visits). Let's just hope corporate BBV (mis)management doesn't ignore their opportunity to sell us, the customers, their inventory (even if the revenues would eventually go to creditors under Chap 11).
 
I dont know the new rental policy they have with the new releases movies for $2 for a day is great because who needs them for multiple days anyways?

Good move on thier part especially with it being DVD or Blueray..
 
Where is a good place to get a cheap xbox live internet adpater? Headset? Harddrive? and XBOX Live Year Subscription? if you just bought the core system
 
I yoinked a Bridget Jones (for the woman), MGS4, and a Dualshock 3 last night with the remainder of my credit.

It's over for me, the flipping, that is...And it has gotten me a PS3 off of EBay, and a shit-ton of games for cheap.

Thank you all so much!
 
How does BlockBuster return/exchange policy work on videogames? I got a USED copy of GTA4 and I don't really want it anymore. Is there a way I can return it or perhaps exchange it for something? or perhaps am I just stuck with it. BTW, it hasn't been 30 days since I bought it.
 
[quote name='WiiShopChannels']How does BlockBuster return/exchange policy work on videogames? I got a USED copy of GTA4 and I don't really want it anymore. Is there a way I can return it or perhaps exchange it for something? or perhaps am I just stuck with it. BTW, it hasn't been 30 days since I bought it.[/quote]

If it's defective you can return it for the same thing (or if lucky, something else or if really lucky, your money back; I've experienced all of these outcomes with defective GTA IV's). You may want to scout a store to make sure they don't have any extras.
 
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