The WWE's new Youtube Channel has a "WWE Classics" subsection. It includes a suprisingly decent Bad News Brown Vs Randy Savage match from 12/30/88 at MSG.....and Brian Knobbs VS Norman Smiley at 1999's WCW Mayhem.
I'm curious as to why the Department of Homeland Security was involved with getting that individual arrested who was streaming various sporting events, including WWE.
[quote name='mitch079']I'm curious as to why the Department of Homeland Security was involved with getting that individual arrested who was streaming various sporting events, including WWE.[/QUOTE]
Tremendous show-opening video that not only put over that they were in England, but that it was going to be an exciting show with all the fast-cutting of venues and then match clips. Loved Bully-Roode's promo, and man did Sting ever have a lot of energy. I love Sting announcing everyone in main events as "YOU!". EY starred in a new, amazing Valentine's Day ad with ODB, although his trunks were a tad too small. Magnus got the pop of a lifetime coming out with Joe. Tenay and Taz had a great exchange regarding Magnus's hometown, and then the crowd booed the tag champs. Tag champs versus Joe/Magnus in a Buckingham Brawl that gave the winners of a coin toss the chance to just double-team at will. The commentary was hard to hear here with the noisy ticket graphics playing over it. Tenay actually got to be the professor here with some of his knowledge on Magnus. Morgan got a ton of boos for doing anything. Kudos to TNA for not editing the audio there, because it's something they can use in the future to break up the team. Hopefully soon. Morgan missed the Carbon Footprint by several miles since Magnus moved long before Morgan even headed towards the corner, but this began the finishing sequence that saw the crowd get beyond hot. They really should've changed the titles here because the crowd would've gone crazy - they already cheered loudly and counted along with the pin when Magnus won.
Eric came out to cut a promo on Garett, leading to him coming out to close-ups of loud cheers from other parts in the show while they edited in cheers since no one visibly cheered for him. Halfway through the Eric-Garett exchange the audio quality changed a bit, I guess due to the sweetening. Garett said his trainer was HERE AND WE'D SEE HIM...later. What a tease. They ran through tonight's card, which includes Roode-Storm in their first singles match in months which I forgot about, and Aries-Haskins which they just brought up here. Lots of HOGAN chants and more hints that Hogan would be coming back on this show. Very odd to basically give things away but not quite do it. Clearly they wanted to hype that he'd be here for ratings, but not give away the finish of the trainer deal, but doing things this way still seems odd. Another TNA figure ad aired. Kaz's is available - presumably in the hair care aisle.
Tremendous Mark Haskins video aired that made him seem like THE next big deal in TNA. Then Taz knocked him for putting over his home country in the video...and the crowd mainly cheered Aries a ton, with loud chants throughout the match. And then Haskins Brock'd an SSP. Not his night. Landing sure looked like it hurt like hell, and that really should've been it. Not sure why Aries hit the punt, the brainbuster, and then put on the Last Chancery given that the kid might've seriously damaged his neck right before them. Sure, you've got to get a finishing sequence over, but could you perhaps do it on a guy who didn't just brain himself on a move? They announced Storm-Roode in the first main event of the night...wow. So much for boosting Lockdown's buyrate with that match. New Direct ad with Morgan being a goofball and bully aired. Not nearly as entertaining as the first two or the one with him and Crimson just happening to pay their insurance at the same time, I guess while in Orlando for a taping and figuring "hey, lemme pay my car insurance now!". Also, instead of watching the Super Bowl on a big screen, you can also watch it ON YOUR PHONE. Somehow, I doubt that'll be as fun. Brooke video aired of her in a bikini.
Bischoff bitched about getting a cab before Sting lured him away - Eric was an awesome complainer here. Storm-Roode didn't even get the big JB intro here. This match just felt rushed and awkward. They JUST got back into things together on a tertiary level a few weeks ago, and now BOOM one-on-one match, no big intro, and Storm for some reason wrestling Roode's kind of match. More technical, and not nearly enough brawling to start in their first real singles match since Roode brained him with the beer bottle. Instead of just punching the shit out of him, he just wanted to win the hammerlock exchange. I get the whole "working a world title match style" deal, but this wasn't the time for it. They sacrificed this, the one feud they've had that really clicked so Garett Bischoff could main event the show instead of just keeping him to his own segment where it would've made sense to reveal the trainer. Next week, it's the STAR WARS EDITION OF IMPACT! Oh i cannot wait for the Sarlac Pit match. Loser gets chained to Jabba the Hut. Knockouts Match where the loser wears a slave outfit. No wait - they're just going to use ILM to try and edit out Velvet's botches.
FINALLY a punch exchange broke out, and a great one, with a dueling U-K! chant during it. One upside to doing this match here is Roode and Storm get to have a match in front of the biggest crowd in Impact history (not counting the New Japan shows), but man does it just rush things along too much. The massive crowd heat helped too - they lost it during a near-fall with the flying elbow off the top from Storm, and an earlier super-rana that I don't remember him ever doing before. I liked Storm escaping from the crossface, attempting the Eye of the Storm, and then kickout of the Payoff. Finishing sequence of the belt shot tease>Codebreaker/Closing Time, and then Bully Ray's interference leading to a spear. Storm shouldn't be doing clean jobs. Liked Bully doing the uranage on the belt and actually hitting though. Sting made the save and then Tenay reminded everyone that this is just the first of 2 matches for Storm, which I'd completely forgotten. After hearing that, my thought went from "well, they're idiots" to "this'll just wind up like Bret at WM X - lose the first, win the second). And having Bully get involved nicely set up their match later, while the uranage set up more of a come-from-behind aspect for Storm's win.
Tenay repeated that February is the BIGGEST MONTH IN IMPACT HISTORY! for the billionth time without citing a reason for it. I loved Taz saying that Tara-Gail didn't need to happen here after just calling what should've been a PPV main event in Storm-Roode. Loved Gail getting an edge via kick to the ass. The stupid ticket graphic first covered up Tara's ass, then her whole body. Gail used a stretch muffler on Tara, which I'm guessing will be renamed the stretched muffler by Russo. This was one of the better knockouts matches in a while - it actually felt like a match as opposed to just a bunch of stuff happening. Tara won after the Widow's Peak - good for her. Wouldn't mind her winning the KO's belt again. The Soul Calibur V ad has dubstep...wow...
Part 2 of tonight's epic Garett-Eric saga continued with shots of crowds not giving a shit about him. They tried to edit all the boos, but some slipped through during his promo. Hogan came out not in red and yellow, but beat up Gunner with Garett. Hogan's punches looked a billion times better than Garett's. Bischoff and Gunner ran off, while Hogan mugged for the camera for a while. Oh yeah, and Garett was out with him too. This felt underwhelming not just as a payoff to what they set up earlier in this show, but also as a payoff to a months-long angle. Hogan cut a good promo about whooping the ass of Bischoff and TNA being ON THE VERGE, THE CUTTING EDGE, OF ROLLING RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN ONTO WHAT WE CALL THE GREATEST COMPANY OF ALL-TIME. THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT! IF I GOTTA BE THE GUIDE, I CAN SMELL THE GREATNESS, AND IF THEY CAN'T, I'LL TAKE THEIR HEADS AND STUFF THEIR HEADS IN IT! This made little sense for a million different reasons, but was memorable. Kinda like his coked-up '80s stuff. I love that in a promo putting over TNA on a show with their biggest TV taping crowd ever, he still basically said another company was better.
Storm-Ray was great. I loved Ray constantly yelling about the ribs of Storm being injured after the first match. Loved the rib tape all but evaporating when Bully tore it off - that must've been some shitty stuff. Loved Sting trading in his black bat for a black cricket bat. They plugged this being the biggest month ever, plugged the Star Wars deal again and it hit me - WRESTLING STAR WARS returns next week eons after the death of WCCW. Loved Sting smacking the cricket bat on the apron to encourage Storm to soldier on. Loved Tenay acting shocked that Bully was going up top for the senton which, like Angle's moonsault, missed for the trillionth time. I think Sting might have better luck with tag partners than those guys have with those moves. Loved Sting preventing Roode from interfering leading to the superkick, which Bully sold by falling like a tree. I loved this match - enjoyed it more than Storm-Roode. This was a home run as far as TNA seeming major league - it showed that they could run in a major venue, and perhaps one day, they'll be able to do that regularly.
Screens -
Yikes
Quotes -
Tenay - THE IMPACT INVASION BEGINS!
Bully - How many of you people came to see Jeff Hardy tonight!? (big pop) WELL, I GOT SOME BAD NEWS FOR YA - YOU AIN’T GONNA SEE JEFF HARDY TONIGHT! YA KNOW WHY? CUZ ME AND THE WORLD CHAMP MADE SURE YOU WOULDN’T SEE JEFF HARDY TONIGHT! WE PICKED HIM UP AND PUT HIM THROUGH A TABLE! HE’S FINISHED! YOU’LL NEVER SEE HIM A-GAIN!
Roode - OH OH IT FEELS SO GOOD TO BE BACK IN THE GREAT COUNTRY OF IRELAND! Ireland, England - what the Hell’s the difference? First of all, we do not suck! YA SEE THIS MAN HERE!? THIS MAN NANANANANO THIS MAN WITH THE LARGEST CALVES IN THE WORLD, THE BIGGEST, BADDEST, MEANEST AND TOUGHEST IS BIG BAD BULLY RAY! AND I AM THE IT FACTOR! THE LEADER OF THE SELFISH GENERATION AND YOUR WORLD CHAMPION! AND YES, WE’RE HAPPY WE DID WHAT WE DID TO THAT GOOD FOR NOTHING JEFF HARDY, BUT WE DIDN’T GET THE JOB COMPLETELY DONE! So tonight, we…(crowd says we want Devon) RIGHT NOW, JAMES STORM GET YOUR ASS OUT HERE! ‘CMON STORM, COME ON COWGIRL!
Ray - Stay right where ya are, do not even think of coming close to the champion!
Tenay - Sting actually won a world title here in Wembley in ‘93 when he beat Big Van Vader.
Sting - LONDON! IT’S SHOWTIME! What a perfect opportunity for me to give an update on Jeff Hardy…
Bully - THERE IS NO JEFF HARDY!
Sting - Shut up I’m talking - he told me that he’s feeling good and the creature’s coming back and he’ll be ready by AAO, which is perfect since I made a 4-way for the world title. You, you, and you AND JEFF HARDY! As far as tonight goes, no handicap matches…
Storm - I WANT THESE TWO, TO-NIGHT!
Sting - I’m running the show - Cowboy has spoken and he’ll get both of you - starting with and ending with YOU! IT’S SHOWTIME - TATA FOR NOW!
Tenay - Homecoming for Magnus, from Norfolk. England, not Virginia.
Taz - Where’s Joe from? Richmond, Samoa?
Taz - You say potato, I say potahto. Speaking of potatoes, nice shot from Crimson.
Tenay - Before coming to TNA Wrestling, Magnus starred in UK Gladiators - England’s version of American Gladiators.
Taz - That young man’s not a big Bischoff fan.
Tenay - He’s telling him he’s number 1.
Taz - Kinda.
Bischoff - And I thought they said you brits were civilized. For weeks, we’ve followed along as my son lives out his fantasy of being a pro wrestler and achieve his goal of becoming half the man I am. I’m gonna burst his bubble with a harsh shot of reality. Young Garett, bplease comet ot he ring. I’M NOT GONNA ASK TWICE YA SNOT NOSED LITTLE PUNK, GET YER ASS OUT TO THE IRNG NOW! Garett, you had a dream, but there’s a difference between a goal and a fantasy. A goal can be achieved with hard work, but dreams are just fantasies. But if you think a trainer like HIM can help you become even half the man I am, you’re wrong. HE’S A COWARD, HE’S NEVER GONNA DO ANYTHING FOR YOU! IT WAS A BAD CHOICE AND I’M DISAPPOINTED IN YOU!
Garett - Dad, I’m sorry you’re so upset about the one I chose to be my trainer, but if you’ve got such a problem with it, take it up with him?
Bischoff - YOU WANNA CON THESE PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM THINK HE’LL COME HERE TO BACK YOU UP! HE’S NOT COMING HERE TONIGHT TO HELP YOU OR ANYONE ELSE! (Hogan chant)
Garett - It’s off the chain bro! Dad, when you’re right, you’re right, BUT YOU’RE DEAD WRONG! HE’S HERE IN THE BUILDING AND HE WANTS TO SEE YOU RIGHT HERE IN THE RING TONIGHT!
Taz - Did Haskins in his promo package basically say that when you want to learn to really go, you come to England? Now there have been some great wrestlers out of England, but I disagree. I think that place is the good ol’ US of A.
Taz - Listen to that crowd - there’s a massive Aries chant and he’s from America!
Bischoff - Get me a cab…NO NOT A MEAL! A VEHICLE WITH FOUR WHEELS! YOU PAY FOR IT! FINE, A TAXI!
Sting - Why ya leaving? He’s not coming…and besides, the stage is this way…
Tenay - Next week, it’s the SPECIAL STAR WARS EDITION VERSION OF IMPACT!
(after a 2 from the Payoff)Roode - WWWWHHHHATTT!?
Tenay - STORM CALLS THAT CLOSING TIME!
Garett - First of all, I’d like to say thank you to all of you for having my back and supporting me through all this. But without further ado, the man that’s been training me, that I look up to…(Bischoff comes out)
Bischoff - We’ve got spies with eyes in the back of their, HE’S NOT COMING! SO GIVE THIS UP BEFORE YOU GET HURT! (Hogan comes out)
Hogan - ERIC KNOWS HE’S PLAYING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE FENCE! YOU CAN RUN, BUT YA CAN’T HIDE! IF HE RUNS, I WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED IF THE LONDON HULKAMANIACS DIDN’T GRAB HIM BY THE SEAT OF HIS PANTS AND THROW HIM AT OUR FEET! EIGHTEEN YEARS SINCE I BEEN IN FRONT OF MY UK-MANIACS! TNA IS ON THE CUSP, ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF ROLLNG OFF THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN WE CALL THE GREATEST COMPANY OF ALL-TIME! THEY’RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT! IF I GOTTA BE THE HOOD ORNAMENT, IF I GOTTA BE THE GUIDE, I CAN SMELL THE GREATNESS, AND IF THEY CAN’T, I’LL TAKE THEIR HEADS AND SHOVE THEIR FACES IN IT!
Ray - HOW ARE THE RIBS!?
Ray - I’M GONNA BREAK YA RIBS!
Taz - Bully Ray’s like Darth Vader.
Crowd - WE WANT DEVON! WE WANT DEVON!
Ray - I’M DONE WITH DEVON!
Crowd - LET’S GO COWBOY!
[quote name='KaneRobot']I hope Natalya farts so loud at Wrestlemania that it blows a shocked Undertaker's wig clean off, complete with comical slide whistle sound effect. The streak is then declared over at 19-1 as Jim Neidhart's laughter echoes throughout the arena.[/QUOTE]
Last year's "Ain't No Grave" is this year's "Yakkity Sax." Calling it now.
[quote name='bhk']The WWE's new Youtube Channel has a "WWE Classics" subsection. It includes a suprisingly decent Bad News Brown Vs Randy Savage match from 12/30/88 at MSG.....and Brian Knobbs VS Norman Smiley at 1999's WCW Mayhem.
[quote name='mitch079']I'm curious as to why the Department of Homeland Security was involved with getting that individual arrested who was streaming various sporting events, including WWE.[/QUOTE]
Cybercrime is troubling because it's not always clear whose jurisdiction it is. Mostly federal jurisdiction because the criminal offenses cross state lines and international lines, but FBI rarely handles crimes of this sort. Also, since it involves 'communication', it's DHS. They cover the internet insomuch as something that can be categorized as communication is concerned.
It's not a pretty answer and it's not satisfying in the "is this really the sort of thing DHS should focus on?" sense, but it is the answer.
Worthy of another post altogether - am I the only one troubled by the fact that WWE allows no comments whatsoever on its myriad YouTube videos?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly clamoring to make my own voice heard. But there's truly something to be said about a company that (1) has historically made claims about listening to the audience and letting the audience dictate the direction of the product and (2) has embraced social interaction and 'web 2.0' nonsense to an unsettling degree in its own product - that this company would deliberately choose to silence the audience - nay, the Universe™! - from voicing its opinions officially.
[quote name='mykevermin']Worthy of another post altogether - am I the only one troubled by the fact that WWE allows no comments whatsoever on its myriad YouTube videos?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly clamoring to make my own voice heard. But there's truly something to be said about a company that (1) has historically made claims about listening to the audience and letting the audience dictate the direction of the product and (2) has embraced social interaction and 'web 2.0' nonsense to an unsettling degree in its own product - that this company would deliberately choose to silence the audience - nay, the Universe™! - from voicing its opinions officially.[/QUOTE]
They must have done that because YouTube commentators are among the worst of the worst. Racism, homophobia, you name it, they do it. It's not the "normal" amount of those things, either. The scum have overrun YouTube to the point where you pretty much have to disable the comments to prevent them from ruining the video.
[quote name='BlueSwim']They must have done that because YouTube commentators are among the worst of the worst. Racism, homophobia, you name it, they do it. It's not the "normal" amount of those things, either. The scum have overrun YouTube to the point where you pretty much have to disable the comments to prevent them from ruining the video.[/QUOTE]
I find this reasonable and hard to disagree with, but I suppose it's more the idea that from the very *start* WWE disabled comments.
Also, when looking at comments on old matches and the like, the ugly comments are there, but there are also interesting discussions and remarks as well. They far outweigh the "ugliness" of the youtube comment system.
I see it, therefore, more as WWE trying to control the message of its product. WWE is a product built in large part on a long history of racist caricatures. That's still the case, in my view. Not entirely, but there's still *plenty* of racism in the product. That's not really pertinent, but it helps set up why I think they want to control the message:
Because their debut of one of their webisodes (I forget which) features the Usos. I got $10 sez WWE is *far* more concerned about comments like "LOL who the cares about these jobbers they should be fired because they're boring maybe next week you can feature Tyler Reks LOL" than they are about anything else.
[quote name='BlueSwim']They must have done that because YouTube commentators are among the worst of the worst. Racism, homophobia, you name it, they do it. It's not the "normal" amount of those things, either. The scum have overrun YouTube to the point where you pretty much have to disable the comments to prevent them from ruining the video.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Survivalism']Fun fact: Since Wrestlemania 20, the set at every even-numbered Wrestlemania has been designed to look like a big, boring building.
If it's a building this year, I absolutely riot.[/QUOTE]
No, you won't. You'll bitch in the chat to the other 4 people that are there, and that'll be the end of it. :lol:
[quote name='mykevermin']
ONLY - if Mark Henry and Big Show dress up as characters from Rampage and destroy the set.[/QUOTE]
Michael Hayes will FINALLY get to book that XXL ape costume he bought for the "Silverback" gimmick.
[quote name='mykevermin']I thought last year's set was just kind of a boring "wrestlemania" lettering circling the entrance area.[/QUOTE]
Admittedly, it wasn't terribly exciting, but it was new and big and shiny and that's what I think it should be. It's disappointing that they use the same set design over and over again but not the ing awesome video floor from Wrestlemania XX.
[quote name='pitfallharry219']No, you won't. You'll bitch in the chat to the other 4 people that are there, and that'll be the end of it. :lol:[/QUOTE]
I don't chat during pay-per-views, so you have no idea what I'm off doing. For example, rioting.
That video is pretty funny, but I'm almost certain that giving someone a crotch chop (and subsequently thrusting your junk) less than 5 inches from their face is not considered PG.
I was watching through the Stone Cold DVD extras and I had completely forgot that Stone Cold HoF video. Very well made and it had Cult of Personality as the backing song.
I don't know how that singer was able to record that song. I couldn't possibly finish singing a song with those lyrics without either laughing or walking out in disgust.
That's an in-house Jim Johnston one, right? The man is great at writing hugely catchy instrumentals, but jesus he needs to stay away from lyrics of any kind.
His Bischoff theme always baffled me for that very reason. Just terrible lyrics. Terrible.
Stumbled across this channel earlier. Some great stuff here, weird mix of mid 80's and early-mid 2000s WWE/F & OVW, including the first episode of Superstars and first episode of Challenge from '86.
The premiere of Superstars features what I believe is the debut of HALL OF FAMER Koko B. Ware, teaming with FUTURE HORSEMEN Paul Roma against a pre-tag champs Hart Foundation.
Been looking for these for a long time. Savage presenting his case on Hogan being all wantin' to get on Liz prior to WM 5: I don't know that I could watch 20 straight minutes of promos from more than 2 or 3 other wrestlers without getting tired of 'em.
Randomly stumbled on the quotes from that Triple H interview I mentioned a few days back where he talked about no one helping him get over. These are actual quotes from the interview.
"The new stars have to rise on their own. What big star ever laid down for me? That's never been how business is done."
"Bret Hart didn't put Shawn Michaels over..."
"But you put C.M. Punk in a 30-minute match with The Undertaker, it's 50-50 all the way and then Punk wins clean, the fans won't accept it. It does nothing for C.M. Punk, and it's also detrimental to the Undertaker."
Yeah, that 60+ minute Wrestlemania match wasn't Bret helping solidify Shawn as one of the best of all time...
EDIT - Triple H defeating Cactus Jack at the 2000 Royal Rumble is another shining example of a big star laying down for Hunter. Foley absolutely made Triple H believable as a top guy by sacrificing his most imposing persona for him. For someone who allegedly has great respect for the history of professional wrestling, he sure doesn't know much of it.
Something something Stephanie McMahon something something laid down something something ditched the tranny something something talk like Mario but with 'uh' something something.
If it's Wrestlemania 28 and it's CM Punk Vs Undertaker and Punk wins cleanly? Yes, most of the fans would take a giant shit right all over that. Hell, it'd be a bad move to have Punk win in *any* fashion.
Likewise, if the match was for the WWE Championship and Punk lost, the fans would be equally pissed, with the smarks likely to riot that their messiah lost the top strap to some old guy that's on his way out.
Now if this was a PPV match and the build up was there, then I think the fans can see and appreciate a match where Punk retains and pinned Taker cleanly (submission is completely out of the question).
Never ever should something like this be given away on paid TV. This is where Bishoff fails as a booker and TNA as a whole just fails. Bobby Roode beating Kurt Angle was already a bit of a stretch, but James Storm coming out of nowhere to beat one of the greatest TNA Wrestlers ever, for the biggest award in TNA (something TNA should be doing their damnedest to put over as the biggest title in pro wrestling period)? A complete and utter up of the highest magnitude. The absolute kicker is that it was given away on free TV, with spoilers.
TNA tirade aside, HHH has a point, even if you don't agree in his opinions of certain wrestlers.
[quote name='mykevermin']"I love to float 'em" always puzzled me.
is the WRP that west coast thing where all the dudes are given silly things like prevailing wages, SAG membership, and health care?[/QUOTE]
Yep, they changed the name from Wrestling Revolution Project to Wrestling Retribution Project. Plenty of decent talent there (MVP, Joey Ryan, Kenny Omega, Cabana, Hero, Doane, Machine Gun, and probably other I'm missing) to keep things interesting.
cares about these jobbers they should be fired because they're boring maybe next week you can feature Tyler Reks LOL" than they are about anything else.
