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[quote name='2Fast']The "Marine in theaters this Friday" sign sort of has the same effect, and makes me seem like more of an ass for promoting a WWE project on a TNA show without any good reason.[/QUOTE]

I don't think TNA is the one who decided to have a WWE movie ads shown during the ad breaks on Impact.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']I don't think TNA is the one who decided to have a WWE movie ads shown during the ad breaks on Impact.[/quote]

Yeah, they just produce the show, they have no sayso on the commercials. SpikeTV has control on that.
 
[quote name='tangytangerine']Yeah, they just produce the show, they have no sayso on the commercials. SpikeTV has control on that.[/quote]

I think you guys missed it completely...
 
I was looking through some old videotapes of random stuff, and you've gotta love Lucha Libre. :lol:

There was one storyline scene where two masked luchadors were sitting down to a meal at a nice restaurant. The conversation went something like this:

Wrestler 1: I'm so sorry for letting you down and not breaking up the pin during the tag match last time. I promise you, I won't let that happen again.

Wrestler 2: Well, you know what? I don't need you at all. I'll take of myself, and I hope you do the same. We're done. (throws down napkin and leaves)


Wrestler 1 starts crying and covers his face with his hands in shame.



Also, don't you just love how copyright means nothing in Mexico? :D

Watch Lucha Libre and you'll hear just about every piece of music ever recorded. Metallica, Pantera, Michael Jackson (who can forget La Parka's entrance to Thriller), you name it.

While we're on the subject of copyright, how the hell is ROH able to release their DVDs with uncut theme music? When Christopher Daniels wrestles, he'll come out to Marilyn Manson, and so on...

It just baffles me. How can they get away with it and not WWE?
 
[quote name='Saucy Jack']
It just baffles me. How can they get away with it and not WWE?[/quote]

Pfft, WWE cant even beat a buncha tree-hugging, animal loving hippies in court.
 
ROH gets away with it because they're on a much lower profile than TNA and WWE, and no one has ratted them out to record companies yet. If they were aware of ROH, they'd be SOL in regards to using real music for their DVDs. As for lucha, they're probably low profile-enough in the U.S. to get away with it.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']ROH gets away with it because they're on a much lower profile than TNA and WWE, and no one has ratted them out to record companies yet. If they were aware of ROH, they'd be SOL in regards to using real music for their DVDs. As for lucha, they're probably low profile-enough in the U.S. to get away with it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that might be the case with ROH.

You'd think that WWE could at least make soundalike music for more of their ECW wrestlers. I mean, with TNA, certain wrestlers (such as Monty Brown and Kevin Nash) have music that sounds just like certain recognizable songs.

I mean, in ECW, who has songs that somewhat resemble their old songs? Balls Mahoney, um, um... and maybe one or two others.

Lucha probably doesn't have to worry about being sued, and I don't think they do any kind of home video releases.

Exactly how much cheaper is it to use a piece of music on TV than to license it for home video? I mean, just look at The State, My Name is Earl, and other music-heavy shows. No problem when they air on TV, but on home video it's a nightmare.

Same thing with certain WWE themes. Stacy would be able to come out to Kid Rock on TV and PPV, but you would NEVER hear her theme in other form of media.
 
It costs more to license a song for a physical medium (game, DVD) than to just broadcast it once. WWE did soundalikes for guys at One Night Stand last year, and then changed some (Sandman's "Enter Sandman" soundalike from the DVD was nixed, Dreamer's "Man in a Box" knock-off was changed). They don't want to do too many knock-offs because then they come off as low-rent. For licensed music, they pick and choose which licensed songs to use for DVDs and games. Since Stacy was never a big name, they didn't bother getting the rights to "Legs", which would require paying the original writers and Kid Rock's label for doing the cover. Some shows are made with the idea of putting them on DVD, so they'll get the rights to cover everything and not just broadcast.
 
I think the most hillarious music substitution in WWE history in regards to DVD releases is Ric Flair's theme which is public domain. Several PPVs have had it altered to a horrible generic version of the theme. :rofl:
 
[quote name='Saucy Jack']Watched the Brian Pillman documentary tonight. Very well-done. Excellent purchase and I would recommend this DVD set wholeheartedly.[/QUOTE]
Bought it yesterday, it really amazed me how much pre wrestling stuff they focused on at the start of the dvd. Especialy consideing the very first thing that went through my head was, if this was going to be another warrior dvd. Because of all talk about how crazy he was. As saucey said highly recomnd it even if you are not a fan of his work.
 
I was just thinking about something. Even if you can get past the fact his wrestling style wouldn't fit in TNA... Undertaker is one of the wrestlers who is so identifiable by his WWE persona that he couldn't make it anywhere without his name and his trademark phrases that WWE owns like "Rest in Peace."

Just like Kurt Angle won't have his theme and his certain phrases like "The 3 I's" or "It's True," Undertaker would have to come up with a new name and catchphrase in TNA. Could you imagine how fucked up the promo would be?


"He's ended careers... left behind a trail of death and an unbeatable winning streak... his love of death is only matched by his love of obtaining the NWA Heavyweight Title. Prepare yourself... Mark Callaway is coming to TNA!"

(Undertaker looks into camera, wearing something similar to his Deadman jacket and a big hat.)

"You have... my condolences." (eyes roll back into head)

:lol:
 
[quote name='Saucy Jack']I was just thinking about something. Even if you can get past the fact his wrestling style wouldn't fit in TNA... Undertaker is one of the wrestlers who is so identifiable by his WWE persona that he couldn't make it anywhere without his name and his trademark phrases that WWE owns like "Rest in Peace."

Just like Kurt Angle won't have his theme and his certain phrases like "The 3 I's" or "It's True," Undertaker would have to come up with a new name and catchphrase in TNA. Could you imagine how fucked up the promo would be?


"He's ended careers... left behind a trail of death and an unbeatable winning streak... his love of death is only matched by his love of obtaining the NWA Heavyweight Title. Prepare yourself... Mark Callaway is coming to TNA!"

(Undertaker looks into camera, wearing something similar to his Deadman jacket and a big hat.)

"You have... my condolences." (eyes roll back into head)

:lol:[/quote]

Hah! So true...
 
If Flair's theme was truly in the public domain, then it wouldn't be changed at all, so someone clearly owns the rights to the particular version of it that WWE uses. It isn't changed to a "horrible, generic" version, they just put his first WWF theme on things when they don't want to pay royalties for his real theme. ECW Fan, a lot of people in WWE liked Brian Pillman - their DVD of him would have never turned out like Warrior's. I'm sure Angle will get a good knock-off of his WWE theme in TNA. They did an excellent job of making one for DDP's main WCW theme, and an okay one for Kip James.
 
What about Bill Goldberg?

“Bill has a lot of exciting things going on in his career right now. TNA would be the perfect place for him to continue those pursuits while stepping back in the ring to write one last chapter of a storied wrestling career. Bill is very talented and he would be another great addition to our roster.”



omg plz!!!
 
I just read that Michael Hayes is going to be the head of the SD creative team. Hopefully he does a good job and maybe this will mean a push for Matt Hardy.
 
[quote name='ECW_fan']Bought it yesterday, it really amazed me how much pre wrestling stuff they focused on at the start of the dvd. Especialy consideing the very first thing that went through my head was, if this was going to be another warrior dvd. Because of all talk about how crazy he was. As saucey said highly recomnd it even if you are not a fan of his work.[/quote]WWE Revisionist History works that way. If you were loyal to the company, and didn't make an ass of yourself, or piss Vince off, you usually get a pretty good DVD. However, if Pillman would have been a complete d-bag, and alienated Vince, the entire DVD would have been about his love for blow.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']I think the most hillarious music substitution in WWE history in regards to DVD releases is Ric Flair's theme which is public domain. Several PPVs have had it altered to a horrible generic version of the theme. :rofl:[/quote]
The one that they edited in is the one he had when he jumped shipped from WCW back in '91. Wrestlemania 18 for gamecube has that one(so does Smackdown vs. Raw for PS2). Didn't notice until now, that for some reason they have a generic music track for Mickey James. Look at her entrance video on WWE.com, god I hope THQ ponies up the money for the regular music in SVR 07.

As for the ECW ONS PPV last year, they heavily edited the DVD. During the Sandman's intro, they edited out the crowd and a comment from Mick Foley saying that the crowd was singing the song. Here's what originally aired:
http://www.vidiLife.com/video_play_643163_ECW_One_Night_Stand_The_Dudley_Boyz_vs_Tommy_Dream.htm
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']WWE Revisionist History works that way. If you were loyal to the company, and didn't make an ass of yourself, or piss Vince off, you usually get a pretty good DVD. However, if Pillman would have been a complete d-bag, and alienated Vince, the entire DVD would have been about his love for blow.[/QUOTE]

A lot of it has to do with the person's involvement in the DVD as well. Just look at Bret Hart. If UW had done that, I doubt it would have been so negative (though he is a piece of shit, so either way he should have been called on being a POS).

It also has to do with being a favorite, even if you did piss Vince off. SS Billy Graham really got off light in his DVD, yet Jake gets railed aganist throughout the whole DVD by everyone. It was just amazing how everyone said nice things about SS and just blasted Jake.
 
Please end DX now!

Also are the writers trying to play an inside joke or are they really setting up DX vs. the nWo? The point towards HBK doing to the elbow and taking over Raw seem like little hints that this might actually occur.
 
lol when i heard jr say hostile takeover...im like wtf.... thats nWo language

i dont understand how everyone likes hardy now... when he was in tna and getting title shots.. everyone could care less and thought he was crap
 
Wow, really suprised they gave Hardy the title. My guess is it lasts til the next ppv when he drops it to Benjamin.

I hope they end DX already, its getting really old seeing them face the same people week after week. I'd rather watch Lita wrestle.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']lol when i heard jr say hostile takeover...im like wtf.... thats nWo language

i dont understand how everyone likes hardy now... when he was in tna and getting title shots.. everyone could care less and thought he was crap[/quote]

I have ALWAYS been a huge Jeff Hardy mark. Christ I bought the Jeff Hardy TNA dvd just to see what I missed while he was in TNA. Met the guy too, pretty cool character, although obviously spaced out as you can imagine.

So... Umaga vs Kane, loser leaves town... this could be good actually. Sad, that Kane the last man from the original roster split to stay on his original show, will now be shuffled off to SD, HOWEVER, Kane really isn't doing much on Raw, and moving him to SD could breathe life back into his career. I am somewhat shocked they're not saving that match for Cyber Sunday though.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']loser leaves raw huh?[/QUOTE]

I hope it is Kane. I would love to see him have a Big Show type revival on SD. If only this had happened a week ago so Kane could have laid out MVP in his debut (I am going to mark like crazy if it is Benoit that comes out and destroys him).
 
[quote name='Bezerker']Wow, really suprised they gave Hardy the title. My guess is it lasts til the next ppv when he drops it to Benjamin.

I hope they end DX already, its getting really old seeing them face the same people week after week. I'd rather watch Lita wrestle.[/quote]

You did read that major rumor that the writers don't want to touch Benjamin since the guy can't remember a promo to save his life.

Oh, and are they turning the Highlanders heel? This makes no sense to have them fighting DX.
 
F U THQ

Unfortunately, one of the coolest, and perhaps biggest, no-brainer options one could have on the 360 version isn't available in this year's game. You can't use custom soundtracks stored on the 360 hard drive as theme music for created wrestlers. Considering how that was one of the few redeeming features of THQ's previous wrestling efforts on the Xbox, it seems like a major oversight.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']F U THQ

Unfortunately, one of the coolest, and perhaps biggest, no-brainer options one could have on the 360 version isn't available in this year's game. You can't use custom soundtracks stored on the 360 hard drive as theme music for created wrestlers. Considering how that was one of the few redeeming features of THQ's previous wrestling efforts on the Xbox, it seems like a major oversight.[/quote]

It's amazing how fast something can go from a day one purchase to a bargain bin purchase.
 
Not sure why you're so shocked, THQ hasn't produced a top to bottom solid wrestling game since No Mercy. The 360 itself is an oversite, but that's another story.
 
[quote name='Scorch']It's amazing how fast something can go from a day one purchase to a bargain bin purchase.[/QUOTE]

You said it. Unless they can fix this with an update, it completely sucks.

And I'll say it one last time... what's so hard about taking all the next-gen goodness and just applying the No Mercy-style controls to it. License to print money...

Crap, my DVR didn't record Raw. Oh, well, I suppose I can watch it during the week on the Spanish channel.
 
Wow, i wonder if RVD has passed the latest drug test...

[quote name='Wrestlezone.com']
Rob Van Dam missed the 9/23 ECW house show held in Tyler, Texas because he drove to the wrong town. RVD left the Dallas airport, which is two hours from Tyler, Texas, but got mistaken and actually drove all the way to Tyler, Oklahoma. Once RVD realized he was in the wrong town, he drove all the way back to Tyler, Texas. He managed to arrive to the building, but the show was over by then. It was announced at the beginning of the show that he wasn't going to be there and refunds were offered for anyone who wanted them.[/quote]
Guess RVD used the directions as rolling papers. Really Rob, spring for some zig-zags...
 
[quote name='Bezerker']Wow, i wonder if RVD has passed the latest drug test...


Guess RVD used the directions as rolling papers. Really Rob, spring for some zig-zags...[/QUOTE]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

How hard it is to get on I-20 and drive East? I could understand if it was not right off the highway, but damn .
 
[quote name='guyver2077']i will still get the game but the caw is completely useless to me now without custom entrance themes

how stupid can you be.. jesus[/QUOTE]

I know it's not a matter of custom, non-media blade music not being able to be implemented in 360 games. Don't the 2K sports games allow you to play certain pieces of music depending on what happens, like scoring a goal or stealing a ball?

Sad...
 
hahhaha


nWo!!!! cmon make it happen! dx are rip offs! i love those bischoff promos

its funny though that hbk was actually an nWo member..
 
My 4 ideas on how to re-introduce Chris Benoit (from worst to best):

1. The Predictable Way - Benoit returns to Raw next week during the Homecoming episode. He comes out to a huge pop, gets a high profile match or two, and then gradually fades back to obscurity.

2. Back to ECW - The ECW fans would be thrilled to have Benoit back. He could easily take Kurt Angle's spot. Although, I don't like this as ECW already has enough guys that aren't getting enough TV time. I think Benoit, and Big Show for that matter, belong elsewhere.

3. Back to SD - Since Batista has reportedly still not gotten on his game, Taker only wrestles once a month, and Lashley cuts promos in which he literally says
"Booker, go ahead and bring your boyfriends. I don't mind taking three guys all at once." I think Benoit could come in and take the top face spot. Plus Benoit vs Booker T has always made for some classic matches, why not let them fight one more time at Wrestlemania this year?

4. Back to RAW - IF I were a part of WWE creative, I'd book it like this. Benoit returns next Monday. Then he shocks us all by joining DX. Why this works: There's few wrestlers in WWE that have the credibility that Benoit does. I think the fans would love to see him in DX. It'd be rather unexpected, and that's what WWE needs so badly these days. Anyway, Benoit could run around with DX up until the Survivor Series. Then the infamous Survivor Series screwjob could kick in and Benoit turns on them.

Or... we could go along with this nWo thing... not that it will last that long, nor will it be what we really want to see, the nWo vs DX a decade ago when they were both still dominant.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']benoit.. dx... wtf?[/quote]

Exactly, you'd watch it for that reason. We've seen serious Benoit, very serious Benoit, and captain serious Beniot. Benoit doing comedy would be gold. But, you wouldn't buy it for too long, hence the heel turn at the Survivor Series. Plus Benoit had some AMAZING matches with HBK & HHH. Hell it'd be a team of the guys in the Wrestlemania XX Triple Threat match. You could even work the nWo into the angle too, and have Benoit team with DX to fight Hall, Nash and X-Pac. Then Benoit costs DX the match.

Ideally, it'd be Hall, Nash & Hogan vs HHH, HBK and Xpac, but that'd NEVER happen.
 
I don't think Benoit is the type of guy that fits what DX is about. You have Benoit join DX and there'll be more people bitching about creative making another stupid move than people who think it's a great idea.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']I don't think Benoit is the type of guy that fits what DX is about. You have Benoit join DX and there'll be more people bitching about creative making another stupid move than people who think it's a great idea.[/quote]

:whistle2:k well not every one of my ideas can be a winner. At least have him come back and have a *final* match with Booker T at Wrestlemania, assuming Batista hasn't got the strap back by then.
 
If they do pull the nWo vs DX, I'd think the most obvious route would be to have X-Pac show up, rejoin DX, and swerve them on the night the nWo shows up.

I have to admit the segment with DX and Masterpiece was funny; "How to lose 50 pounds in4 weeks." That's funny.

But ultimately meaningless; Chris Masters won't get revenge, he won't get comeuppance, hell, he won't even get a match with them. Same with Spirit Squad. Oh, DX makes them look like fools again? You don't say! What a change of pace! I bet there's a cock joke, too; they never do that. The only funny moment on the show was a dead-end-street, and everything else is reruns. DX beats the ENTIRE TAG DIVISION; DX makes Coach look like a boob; Cena and Edge fight; Orton and Carlito fight; Umaga squashes someone; Spirit Squad look silly.

For fuck's sake, I'm glad I spent the majority of the night playing Saints Row.
 
Back in the day when the WWE actually had factions, this would've made sense. Today we just follow the rules of anything goes, whenever, whatever, whoever, doesn't matter. This brings me to my next point: Instead of trying to reform a geriatric DX and maybe the nWo, why not try to make a new DX (not called DX of course) but an entirely new faction, like what happened with Evolution.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If they do pull the nWo vs DX, I'd think the most obvious route would be to have X-Pac show up, rejoin DX, and swerve them on the night the nWo shows up.

I have to admit the segment with DX and Masterpiece was funny; "How to lose 50 pounds in4 weeks." That's funny.

But ultimately meaningless; Chris Masters won't get revenge, he won't get comeuppance, hell, he won't even get a match with them. Same with Spirit Squad. Oh, DX makes them look like fools again? You don't say! What a change of pace! I bet there's a cock joke, too; they never do that. The only funny moment on the show was a dead-end-street, and everything else is reruns. DX beats the ENTIRE TAG DIVISION; DX makes Coach look like a boob; Cena and Edge fight; Orton and Carlito fight; Umaga squashes someone; Spirit Squad look silly.

For fuck's sake, I'm glad I spent the majority of the night playing Saints Row.[/quote]

You must've missed the Jeff Hardy vs Nitro match. Sadly, that was the only thing of interest that happened on Raw in the past month or so now.
 
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