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It'll be like WWF "Gang Warz" all over again. Which one is Los Boricuas?
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just goes to show that TNA's writing staff doesn't think these guys are getting OVER by themselves.
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Terrible show by BFG standards. '07's was fantastic, '08's was great, '09's had a couple of great matches, this one pretty much just had the main event, which was completely overshadowed by THEY THEM revealing themselves. Absolutely no one new was brought into this group, so even though it's a new faction, so it's not very exciting - just very random. Jeff Jarrett's a heel again and man did he ever look hilarious mugging next to Jeff Hardy at the end. SEE, I'M STILL A MEGASTAR - I'M NEXT TO JEFF HARDY! Kurt Angle's career is supposed to be over because Jeff Hardy won - announcers didn't mention it once. Just mind-boggling.
The show opened with the usual exciting GenMe-Guns match. It was every other match they've ever had in history, with a minor twist on the "GenMe-er almost does a big flip dive onto his brother by accident". Max made wacky faces, the Guns won. Work-wise, the show peaked here. Then it was time for the women's match. MINOR drop off in ring-work here. Tara won the title accidentally on purpose. The announcers brought up this being a 4 way and not a tag match in the intros, and in order to get into the match you had to... TAG IN. What. The.
. Mickie's been in the company for THREE DAYS and already gets a title shot despite wrestling zero matches. Stupid, but less stupid than Shannon Moore getting an X Title shot after returning from being a WWE jobber, then becoming number 1 contender again after losing his shot. At least Mickie has held every other major women's title and has come claim to being worthy of an instant title shot. Of course, this will result in resolving her character's ENTIRE POINT TO JOINING TNA very quickly, but whatever.
Speaking of the X Title, Jay Lethal defended it against Douglas Williams. You wouldn't have known about that, or the Tag Title match, by watching THREE HOURS OF TNA PROGRAMMING ON THURSDAY. Tenay talked about Lethal's incredible roll that involved winning the X title, THEN LOSING IT, THEN QUICKLY REGAINING IT. Some roll. Lethal won by reversing a top rope rana into a sunset flip, meaning he took the rana, it did NO DAMAGE AT ALL, and he win with a rollup. For some reason, this bugged me. Standing rana>sunset doesn't, but this. Then the low-rent Zack Ryder came out and RKO'd him to bring the belt "back" to Jersey. Taz brought up that it was already there. Taz was awesome tonight.
OJ and EY came out for their match. OJ wore white lace, Taz cracked some funny jokes about his getup. They did a PRIDE-style lifting video screen entrance for ERIC YOUNG AND ORLANDO JORDAN in a comedy match. They got the coolest-looking intro of the night since both side screens raised up at once, and they blew the impact of it by A. doing it for these geeks and B. doing it 20 or so minutes into the show. Match was short. EY caused his team to loose. EY countered the Book of Dilligaf with the TNA Rule Book. It appear to weigh less than 400 pounds, so I'm assuming it just explained the rules to only one of TNA's stip matches.
RVD vs. Abyss was every Abyss match ever. RVD took a pretty sick bump through a barb wire board between the railing and the ring that looked like it hurt a lot. Abyss, on the other hand, landed on a barb wire board and got up 30 seconds later to get a table completely unharmed. That was stupid. RVD also bugged me by doing his goofy finger pointing deal A LOT in this match. It made sense to do it to set up him getting wacked with the chair and going into the board, but man did it seem out of place in this, THE MATCH WHERE HE GETS REVENGE ON THE GUY WHO TRIED TO MURDER HIM. Abyss took Janice to the gut. He bled from the mouth to sell it, then was perfectly fine later in the show. So yeah, they spend months getting this gimmick over and then the guy that introduces it kills it in one night.
Pope, Nash and Sting vs. Joe and Jarrett was better than I was expecting. Still not good though, and definitely Sting's worst BFG match yet. At least his '06 one had his swank new gear and great last minute of action. This had...Joe getting turned on by Jarrett. Oh, and Nash scored the pin, so if he actually does leave, TNA looks stupid for having him get the win. Wouldn't want Pope, the young guy on the team, to actually score a win on the biggest PPV of the year or anything.
Team 3D came out and announced their retirement, then said they couldn't retire until they beat the Guns and retired as champions. So their retirement lasted maybe two minutes then. Purposeful.
Lethal Lockdown was decent. Flair was wearing the feminine HBK tanktop hear and looked ridiculous. Seemingly everyone bled. No one really shined until the end when Kazarian went on top of the cage, which had reinforced tables on top of it despite THIS BEING A CAGE MATCH WHERE GUYS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO GET IN OR OUT. Well anyway, he gets up top, then Kendrick comes out from underneath a sheet on top of three tables to hide his entire body. He tries to tip Kaz over I guess through the table, but the ladder fell early - and it was already wobbling way too much anyway with just Kaz walking up it so it wasn't his fault and then they just fell in a heap. He eventually put him through the table and then went and meditated. Dreamer won by pinning AJ with a Spicolli Driver off the top. So War Games ended in a pinfalls and Dreamer beat the TV champion. This feud was already losing steam and now it has to continue, although I'm guessing it will continue with the two groups as reluctant allies against THEY THEM.
Angle vs. Anderson vs. Hardy was really good. Jeff's new theme sucks. Anderson's intro looked fantastic with the stage setup, which was definitely the best one in company history. They made a smaller budget version of WM feel like a huge deal with the moving screens. It's a shame they didn't save them for the main events, because by the end of the show, they'd done everything imaginable with the three screens. Fantastic match until the ending, which saw Angle hit Brian Hebner with a clothesline and man he took a great bump. This was a great ref bump - it was plausible that it kept him down for the nine hours it took Hogan to get to the ring.
He gave one crutch to Eric, who used it on Angle, then Hogan gave him the other and he used it on Anderson. Then he beat him with a basic sloppy Diamond Cutter while Eric got the ref, yelled at him to count, then kicked him while he counted. THAT ruled. Then Abyss and Jeff Jarrett came down and Jarrett mugged next to Hardy to seem relevant in 2010. RVD came out, got whacked with the belt by Hardy, leading to their title match at whatever TNA's next No Buys Spectacular is called. This group felt so damn random that it's impossible to care about them right now. Jeff Hardy as a heel hasn't worked before, and the stuff he's best at (like playing a babyface in peril) doesn't work as heel.
Plus, HE'S UNDER INDICTMENT FOR DRUG TRAFFICKING AND TNA GIVES HIM THE WORLD TITLE. They look so incredibly irresponsible doing this, and it sends a terrible message that TNA simply refuses to learn anything about anything. Concussions? Everyone else is seeing the major effects of them. TNA, on the other hand, has guys like RVD tonight, take shots to the head and has a comedy act built around the brain damage they can cause. Wellness Policy? WWE bans somas. TNA gives a guy up on serious charges THEIR WORLD TITLE. They obviously feel pretty confident that he won't actually serve any time since they gave him the title, but that's still a gamble.
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The show opened with the usual exciting GenMe-Guns match. It was every other match they've ever had in history, with a minor twist on the "GenMe-er almost does a big flip dive onto his brother by accident". Max made wacky faces, the Guns won. Work-wise, the show peaked here. Then it was time for the women's match. MINOR drop off in ring-work here. Tara won the title accidentally on purpose. The announcers brought up this being a 4 way and not a tag match in the intros, and in order to get into the match you had to... TAG IN. What. The.
. Mickie's been in the company for THREE DAYS and already gets a title shot despite wrestling zero matches. Stupid, but less stupid than Shannon Moore getting an X Title shot after returning from being a WWE jobber, then becoming number 1 contender again after losing his shot. At least Mickie has held every other major women's title and has come claim to being worthy of an instant title shot. Of course, this will result in resolving her character's ENTIRE POINT TO JOINING TNA very quickly, but whatever. Speaking of the X Title, Jay Lethal defended it against Douglas Williams. You wouldn't have known about that, or the Tag Title match, by watching THREE HOURS OF TNA PROGRAMMING ON THURSDAY. Tenay talked about Lethal's incredible roll that involved winning the X title, THEN LOSING IT, THEN QUICKLY REGAINING IT. Some roll. Lethal won by reversing a top rope rana into a sunset flip, meaning he took the rana, it did NO DAMAGE AT ALL, and he win with a rollup. For some reason, this bugged me. Standing rana>sunset doesn't, but this. Then the low-rent Zack Ryder came out and RKO'd him to bring the belt "back" to Jersey. Taz brought up that it was already there. Taz was awesome tonight.
OJ and EY came out for their match. OJ wore white lace, Taz cracked some funny jokes about his getup. They did a PRIDE-style lifting video screen entrance for ERIC YOUNG AND ORLANDO JORDAN in a comedy match. They got the coolest-looking intro of the night since both side screens raised up at once, and they blew the impact of it by A. doing it for these geeks and B. doing it 20 or so minutes into the show. Match was short. EY caused his team to loose. EY countered the Book of Dilligaf with the TNA Rule Book. It appear to weigh less than 400 pounds, so I'm assuming it just explained the rules to only one of TNA's stip matches.
RVD vs. Abyss was every Abyss match ever. RVD took a pretty sick bump through a barb wire board between the railing and the ring that looked like it hurt a lot. Abyss, on the other hand, landed on a barb wire board and got up 30 seconds later to get a table completely unharmed. That was stupid. RVD also bugged me by doing his goofy finger pointing deal A LOT in this match. It made sense to do it to set up him getting wacked with the chair and going into the board, but man did it seem out of place in this, THE MATCH WHERE HE GETS REVENGE ON THE GUY WHO TRIED TO MURDER HIM. Abyss took Janice to the gut. He bled from the mouth to sell it, then was perfectly fine later in the show. So yeah, they spend months getting this gimmick over and then the guy that introduces it kills it in one night.
Pope, Nash and Sting vs. Joe and Jarrett was better than I was expecting. Still not good though, and definitely Sting's worst BFG match yet. At least his '06 one had his swank new gear and great last minute of action. This had...Joe getting turned on by Jarrett. Oh, and Nash scored the pin, so if he actually does leave, TNA looks stupid for having him get the win. Wouldn't want Pope, the young guy on the team, to actually score a win on the biggest PPV of the year or anything.
Team 3D came out and announced their retirement, then said they couldn't retire until they beat the Guns and retired as champions. So their retirement lasted maybe two minutes then. Purposeful.
Lethal Lockdown was decent. Flair was wearing the feminine HBK tanktop hear and looked ridiculous. Seemingly everyone bled. No one really shined until the end when Kazarian went on top of the cage, which had reinforced tables on top of it despite THIS BEING A CAGE MATCH WHERE GUYS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO GET IN OR OUT. Well anyway, he gets up top, then Kendrick comes out from underneath a sheet on top of three tables to hide his entire body. He tries to tip Kaz over I guess through the table, but the ladder fell early - and it was already wobbling way too much anyway with just Kaz walking up it so it wasn't his fault and then they just fell in a heap. He eventually put him through the table and then went and meditated. Dreamer won by pinning AJ with a Spicolli Driver off the top. So War Games ended in a pinfalls and Dreamer beat the TV champion. This feud was already losing steam and now it has to continue, although I'm guessing it will continue with the two groups as reluctant allies against THEY THEM.
Angle vs. Anderson vs. Hardy was really good. Jeff's new theme sucks. Anderson's intro looked fantastic with the stage setup, which was definitely the best one in company history. They made a smaller budget version of WM feel like a huge deal with the moving screens. It's a shame they didn't save them for the main events, because by the end of the show, they'd done everything imaginable with the three screens. Fantastic match until the ending, which saw Angle hit Brian Hebner with a clothesline and man he took a great bump. This was a great ref bump - it was plausible that it kept him down for the nine hours it took Hogan to get to the ring.
He gave one crutch to Eric, who used it on Angle, then Hogan gave him the other and he used it on Anderson. Then he beat him with a basic sloppy Diamond Cutter while Eric got the ref, yelled at him to count, then kicked him while he counted. THAT ruled. Then Abyss and Jeff Jarrett came down and Jarrett mugged next to Hardy to seem relevant in 2010. RVD came out, got whacked with the belt by Hardy, leading to their title match at whatever TNA's next No Buys Spectacular is called. This group felt so damn random that it's impossible to care about them right now. Jeff Hardy as a heel hasn't worked before, and the stuff he's best at (like playing a babyface in peril) doesn't work as heel.
Plus, HE'S UNDER INDICTMENT FOR DRUG TRAFFICKING AND TNA GIVES HIM THE WORLD TITLE. They look so incredibly irresponsible doing this, and it sends a terrible message that TNA simply refuses to learn anything about anything. Concussions? Everyone else is seeing the major effects of them. TNA, on the other hand, has guys like RVD tonight, take shots to the head and has a comedy act built around the brain damage they can cause. Wellness Policy? WWE bans somas. TNA gives a guy up on serious charges THEIR WORLD TITLE. They obviously feel pretty confident that he won't actually serve any time since they gave him the title, but that's still a gamble.
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Taz - Velvet with chops to the very large pectorial region of Tara.
Taz - Orlando’s dressed in white lace. It’s well-documented that he’s probably a virgin.
(after OJ puts his sucker into EY’s mouth)Taz - NO NO NO. Well, Eric likes lollipops. Maybe not as much as Orlando, but I know he likes lollipops.
(as EY attacks OJ)Taz - That’s his partner. Well, tag team partner.
Tenay - The recent run of success for Jay Lethal saw him win the X Title from Douglas Williams, then quickly regain it from Amazing Red.
Tenay - Douglas Williams is so proud of his ring gear - he’s sporting the Williams family crest on the side of his rights.
Taz - Was never a big fan of crests. Never my thing Not big in Brooklyn.
Robbie E - Lethal, Bro, YOU’RE A DISGRACE TO NEW JERSEY. WHEN I WIN THIS TITLE, I’M BRINGING IT BACK TO JERSEY.
Taz - Well, it’s in Jersey already…Technically…
Tenay - True.
Cookie - JERSEY’S IN THE HOUSE, BITCHES.
Kaz - The stupid Extreme Antique Road Show? Tonight - IT’S OVER WITH.
Taz - I’m trying to make out what some of the weapons are. I see a billy club. Or a nightstick - it’s 1920 with the police.
Taz - Kendrick’s got his Luke Skywalker robe and his yoga zen cross cross applesauce thing going on.
Taz - Dixie Carter’s as confused as everybody else.
Tenay - WE HEAR ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT JEFF HARDY BEING A ROLE MODEL. ROLE MODEL MY ASS!
Taz - Orlando’s dressed in white lace. It’s well-documented that he’s probably a virgin.
(after OJ puts his sucker into EY’s mouth)Taz - NO NO NO. Well, Eric likes lollipops. Maybe not as much as Orlando, but I know he likes lollipops.
(as EY attacks OJ)Taz - That’s his partner. Well, tag team partner.
Tenay - The recent run of success for Jay Lethal saw him win the X Title from Douglas Williams, then quickly regain it from Amazing Red.
Tenay - Douglas Williams is so proud of his ring gear - he’s sporting the Williams family crest on the side of his rights.
Taz - Was never a big fan of crests. Never my thing Not big in Brooklyn.
Robbie E - Lethal, Bro, YOU’RE A DISGRACE TO NEW JERSEY. WHEN I WIN THIS TITLE, I’M BRINGING IT BACK TO JERSEY.
Taz - Well, it’s in Jersey already…Technically…
Tenay - True.
Cookie - JERSEY’S IN THE HOUSE, BITCHES.
Kaz - The stupid Extreme Antique Road Show? Tonight - IT’S OVER WITH.
Taz - I’m trying to make out what some of the weapons are. I see a billy club. Or a nightstick - it’s 1920 with the police.
Taz - Kendrick’s got his Luke Skywalker robe and his yoga zen cross cross applesauce thing going on.
Taz - Dixie Carter’s as confused as everybody else.
Tenay - WE HEAR ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT JEFF HARDY BEING A ROLE MODEL. ROLE MODEL MY ASS!
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the best heels can work the mic... hardy cannot.
[quote name='mykevermin']It'll be like WWF "Gang Warz" all over again. Which one is Los Boricuas?[/QUOTE]
Diddy, that's a better idea.
The only way the "They" surprise could have lived up to its potential is if "They" were guys from Ring of Honor, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla, Dragon Gate USA, or some other promotion. "They" would also have worked if it consisted of two, or three, new talent debuting and coming to the defense of Abyss. Abyss and his new team could have run out, with chairs, during the main event. TNA could have had Jeff rip away a chair from one of them, then turn heel by quickly nailing chair shots on Kurt Angle and Ken Kennedy.
The idea that Hulk Hogan, and especially Eric Bischoff, needing to be in every big story is quite ludicrous. And if those two thought their version of "They" is a good idea, and would surprise their fans, then they are too far up the ass of each other.
I cannot wait for TNA's next "earth-breaking surprise that will tear roofs from houses and heads off of babies."
Diddy, that's a better idea.
The only way the "They" surprise could have lived up to its potential is if "They" were guys from Ring of Honor, Pro Wrestling Guerrilla, Dragon Gate USA, or some other promotion. "They" would also have worked if it consisted of two, or three, new talent debuting and coming to the defense of Abyss. Abyss and his new team could have run out, with chairs, during the main event. TNA could have had Jeff rip away a chair from one of them, then turn heel by quickly nailing chair shots on Kurt Angle and Ken Kennedy.
The idea that Hulk Hogan, and especially Eric Bischoff, needing to be in every big story is quite ludicrous. And if those two thought their version of "They" is a good idea, and would surprise their fans, then they are too far up the ass of each other.
I cannot wait for TNA's next "earth-breaking surprise that will tear roofs from houses and heads off of babies."
Abyss impregnated Dixie. The baby is Brooke Hogan.
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[quote name='mykevermin']^ oh, definitely. if he's going to go heel, he's got to go short hair, put a suit on, and stop painting his face and doing all that goofy shit. he's got to go full-on straight-laced. go watch Jericho in his last WWE heel run and take voracious notes.[/QUOTE]
He needs to watch Foley in early ECW as well. Hardy should have some of the most intentionally stale wrestling matches known to man to build up his cred.
He needs to watch Foley in early ECW as well. Hardy should have some of the most intentionally stale wrestling matches known to man to build up his cred.
It's been nagging at me for a while but I dislike how inconsistent the refs are in the Machine Gun (or maybe tag team) matches in general. For example, during the BFG match, Brian Hebner never started a count when Shelly first tagged in, so they had time to do their spots on Max. But when Jeremy gets tagged in, he immediately starts the count. Then later when Max tags in and Generation Me does their spot, he starts to count but it's like he goes in his head "ahhh f it" and stops counting (which he does twice when Gen Me tags again). It's still ways better than what passes for tag team wrestling in the WWE though.
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Is it bad that I'm more bothered by the use of "there" on this poster than this particular storyline?
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Is it bad that I'm more bothered by the use of "there" on this poster than this particular storyline?
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You know what I like about Abyss? Looking at him in this picture, I had a brief thought of him leaving TNA and going to WWE, where they'd put him in a tag team with Alex Riley. He'd lose the mask but keep his persona, being the WWE's version of "Ogre" from the "Revenge of the Nerds" movies.
Also, my Los Boricuas comment made me think about Savio Vega. I wasn't knowledgeable of indie wrestling when he came into the WWF as Razor Ramon's "buddy" (later realizing that, one being 'Cuban' and one being Puerto Rican didn't make sense except in the over-stereotyped mind of Vince McMahon). So it was a long time before I knew he was (1) Kwang in the WWF before his run as Savio and (2) that he was a notorious hardcore/garbage wrestler by the name of "TNT" in the indies. At any rate, it leads one to think about how long WWF has "killed" name talent by bringing them into the corporate fold and repackaging them in ways that are so contrary to (seemingly) the interest that led to them being signed in the first place.
If TNT --> Savio Vega, what would WWE do with a guy like Homicide?
Homicide --> Mexican Doink?
Also, my Los Boricuas comment made me think about Savio Vega. I wasn't knowledgeable of indie wrestling when he came into the WWF as Razor Ramon's "buddy" (later realizing that, one being 'Cuban' and one being Puerto Rican didn't make sense except in the over-stereotyped mind of Vince McMahon). So it was a long time before I knew he was (1) Kwang in the WWF before his run as Savio and (2) that he was a notorious hardcore/garbage wrestler by the name of "TNT" in the indies. At any rate, it leads one to think about how long WWF has "killed" name talent by bringing them into the corporate fold and repackaging them in ways that are so contrary to (seemingly) the interest that led to them being signed in the first place.
If TNT --> Savio Vega, what would WWE do with a guy like Homicide?
Homicide --> Mexican Doink?
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[quote name='Scorch']TNA will be gone in the next year.[/QUOTE]
It's been said for years now yet money continues to flow in as quickly as it hemorrhages out. The only way to explain it is somehow, someway, somebody's making money off of it. Or pulling a Uwe Boll tax shelter scheme... the world may never know (until the tell all book is written 5-7 years after TNA's demise).
It's been said for years now yet money continues to flow in as quickly as it hemorrhages out. The only way to explain it is somehow, someway, somebody's making money off of it. Or pulling a Uwe Boll tax shelter scheme... the world may never know (until the tell all book is written 5-7 years after TNA's demise).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8zO_DV09QE
Been catching up on Eastbound and Down and Danny McBride on Raw would have gotten me to watch it. If he came out like that I would have died.
Been catching up on Eastbound and Down and Danny McBride on Raw would have gotten me to watch it. If he came out like that I would have died.
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THQ admits that since they couldn't complete work on him prior to the game's release, they won't be making *any* Daniel Bryan DLC for SvR2011. They're essentially admitting that they're taking pieces of the game completed well before release, witholding them and selling them to you a la carte after the fact. you THQ, I'll buy your game used now so you won't see a ing penny in residuals.
http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/vid...royal-rumbles-daniel-bryan?readmore=fullstory
you THQ, I'll buy your game used now so you won't see a ing penny in residuals.http://espn.go.com/espn/thelife/vid...royal-rumbles-daniel-bryan?readmore=fullstory
If John Cena turns heel at Bragging Rights, and helps Wade Barrett defeat Randy Orton, that would be fun. So far, Raw is setting up that result.
Edit: Seems like THQ wants to maximize their "Daniel Bryan Profits." I expect them to release him in a, otherwise shitty, DLC pack for 800 points.
Edit: Seems like THQ wants to maximize their "Daniel Bryan Profits." I expect them to release him in a, otherwise shitty, DLC pack for 800 points.
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I'm not crazy about wrestlers who sing their own music in 2010. Because, of course, when I think of that, I think of With My Baby Tonight.
Spend my days workin' hard on the go
But the hands on the clock keep spinnin' too slow
'Cause I can't wait to be alone with my baby tonight
But the hands on the clock keep spinnin' too slow
'Cause I can't wait to be alone with my baby tonight
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i hope they turn cena heel... and leave him a heel for at least a full year or more. i want a major heel turn too... i want children crying. i want kids to burn their shirts and posters.
[quote name='Survivalism']I'm not crazy about wrestlers who sing their own music in 2010. Because, of course, when I think of that, I think of With My Baby Tonight.
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J-E-Double F J-A-Double R-E-Double T peaked in WWE in the mid-1990s. I like him less than Hulk Hogan. At least Hogan gave us an incredible moment, with his heel turn, and helped give us that hilarious match with Shawn Michaels. What has Jeff Jarrett given us? Boring promos and matches because he's too self-involved to see that he just will never be a main event guy.
Spend my days workin' hard on the go
But the hands on the clock keep spinnin' too slow
'Cause I can't wait to be alone with my baby tonight
But the hands on the clock keep spinnin' too slow
'Cause I can't wait to be alone with my baby tonight
J-E-Double F J-A-Double R-E-Double T peaked in WWE in the mid-1990s. I like him less than Hulk Hogan. At least Hogan gave us an incredible moment, with his heel turn, and helped give us that hilarious match with Shawn Michaels. What has Jeff Jarrett given us? Boring promos and matches because he's too self-involved to see that he just will never be a main event guy.
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I don't remember if I've told this story in previous wrestling threads or if anyone would have even read it, but I love this story and it's one of my favorite moments of my life in general:
Admittedly, I felt a bit the same way during Hell in a Cell. I later realized the Undertaker has only won at the Q once or twice. Even at Unforgiven he just got his ass kicked all night and it wasn't even a match.
[quote name='Chase']J-E-Double F J-A-Double R-E-Double T peaked in WWE in the mid-1990s. I like him less than Hulk Hogan. At least Hogan gave us an incredible moment, with his heel turn, and helped give us that hilarious match with Shawn Michaels. What has Jeff Jarrett given us? Boring promos and matches because he's too self-involved to see that he just will never be a main event guy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, when TNA first came to my cable system and really started gaining ground, every time I put it there he was winning the world title another time. In all fairness, though, he's a former world champion not of his own booking.
Hey but so is David Arquette.
I was 10 years old in 1996 when Summerslam came to Cleveland at what's now the Q, and somehow my parents decided to take me; it was not only my first WWE show but first wrestling show in general. I saw a lot of guys that aren't around any more like Owen and the Bulldog and Chris Candido and Yokozuna and even guys like Austin and Jake the Snake and Shawn Michaels who, presumably, I won't have the chance to see again, either. Even Mr. Perfect was on commentary. My mother had always hated when I had wrestling on, and my dad couldn't care less but he always played along and even to this day they're both the exact same way. Once a couple years ago I was watching Smackdown and my dad walks in and goes "hey, where's Mabel?" Which was not only awesome because my father just busted out a Mabel reference, but twice as awesome because he was actually on the screen as Big Daddy V.
Anyway, we're at Summerslam and it's the boiler room match. I always have been and still am a huge Undertaker mark, plus I was 10, so when Paul Bearer turned that night I was devastated. My mom hated every minute of it and wanted to go home, but my dad looked over and saw how bummed I was and I'll remember for the rest of my life, he said "man, I can't believe Pat Bearer did that!"
Anyway, we're at Summerslam and it's the boiler room match. I always have been and still am a huge Undertaker mark, plus I was 10, so when Paul Bearer turned that night I was devastated. My mom hated every minute of it and wanted to go home, but my dad looked over and saw how bummed I was and I'll remember for the rest of my life, he said "man, I can't believe Pat Bearer did that!"
Admittedly, I felt a bit the same way during Hell in a Cell. I later realized the Undertaker has only won at the Q once or twice. Even at Unforgiven he just got his ass kicked all night and it wasn't even a match.
[quote name='Chase']J-E-Double F J-A-Double R-E-Double T peaked in WWE in the mid-1990s. I like him less than Hulk Hogan. At least Hogan gave us an incredible moment, with his heel turn, and helped give us that hilarious match with Shawn Michaels. What has Jeff Jarrett given us? Boring promos and matches because he's too self-involved to see that he just will never be a main event guy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, when TNA first came to my cable system and really started gaining ground, every time I put it there he was winning the world title another time. In all fairness, though, he's a former world champion not of his own booking.
Hey but so is David Arquette.
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What does it say about Zack Ryder when he gets a jobber entrance against ing Santino?
ing Santino?TNA Impact spoilers from the taping.
dumb dumb dumb
We open up impact with Hulk Hogan's theme song and Hogan's pyro. Eric Bischoff and Hogan (still on crutches) come out and there is a mixture of cheers and boos in the building. There are some loud "Hogan sucks" chant as Biscoff introduces Hogan. Hogan says, "Enough of the crap" and that it's time to take what is their's. Fans chant "Please retire." Hogan says that Dixie Carter lied to him and sold him a false bill of good when it came to TNA, so now "Hollywood" Hogan is taking over TNA. Bischoff introduces the first member of Team Hogan, Abyss. Abyss hugs them and screams, "They're here!" Hogan calls Abyss his son. Bischoff them introduces Jeff Jarrett, who said that at first, he didn't see eye to eye with them but then realized they are on the same page. Bischoff cut a promo on Dixie, saying Dixie took Jeff's company from him, but Fourtune's music played and out came Ric Flair and Fourtune.
Flair said that Fortune runs TNA, not anyone else. Flair says that tonight, either he or Hogan have to leave TNA forever and they face off, then hug. Bischoff asked if anyone thought that 25 years ago, Flair and Hogan would be on the same team ever. Bischoff then introduced TNA champion Jeff Hardy, who comes out. Everyone in the ring claps for Hardy while the crowd is split. There is a loud "You sold out" chant. Hardy said he didn't sell out, he sold in. Hardy said that he doesn't care about his fans and reveals he was the one who was behind the Abyss attack on Rob Van Dam.
They cut to Sting and Kevin Nash watching backstage. Bischoff asks them to come to the ring and let bygones be bygones. Nash and Sting come out. Bischoff asks them to join the crew but Kevin says, "Thanks but no thanks." He cut a promo saying he is sticking with the TNA family and is "passing on the money this time." Sting says that he loves TNA and history won't be repeating itself, and turns them down as well. Bischoff says the offer stands when they change their mind.
*Madison Rayne cuts a promo and says that Tara beat her at Bound for Glory and that wasn't supposed to happen. Tara comes out and Rayne tells her that she is the only reason that Tara is back in TNA and Tara needs to do the right thing. Tara lays down and lets Rayne pin her. Madison begins celebrating but Mickie James comes out and says that she came to TNA to make history, so why not let it be tonight. Madison shoved Tara into her and ran off.
*Kurt Angle came out to no music to make a statement. There's a big "please don't go" chant from the crowd. Angle says he re-injured his ribs and his neck last night but before he announces his retirement, he wants answers. Out comes Jeff Jarrett, who tells him that Angle said he would retire if he didn't win the title. Angle says that he was the one who out TNA on the map, that his loss at the PPV was the final nail in TNA's coffin and Jarrett can have his ex-wife, but Angle is getting a piece of Jeff. Angle throws the mic down and goes for Jarrett but the two security guards take Angle down and handcuff him. Jarrett begins beating down. Taz finally takes of his headset and comes down, telling Jarrett to back off. Jarrett finally does and we don't have any official announcement of Angle retiring. Good segment.
*Samoa Joe defeated Abyss by DQ when Abyss attacked Joe with the ring bell, busting him open. Before Abyss could do any more damage, Rob Van Dam hit the ring and cut a promo calling out Hardy. Hardy appeared on the screen, talking about friendship. Bischoff comes out and says the main event tonight will be RVD vs. Mr. Anderson with the winner getting a shot at Hardy. RVD immediately accepts.
*Fortune defeated Pope Dinero in a four on one handicap match after Beer Money hit DWI on Pope, then beat him down after the match. Pope got in a good amount of offense.
*The Shore comes out and cuts a promo on The Jersey Show. JWoww comes out with The Beautiful People. Cookie makes fun of JWow, leading to a catfight between the two. Cookie ends up carried to the back by Robbie E.
*Ken Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam goes to a no contest after Eric Bischoff pulls the referee out of the ring. Jeff Hardy shows up and uses a chair on both of them. Some fans threw plastic bottles at Hardy but Universal security removed them immediately.
Flair said that Fortune runs TNA, not anyone else. Flair says that tonight, either he or Hogan have to leave TNA forever and they face off, then hug. Bischoff asked if anyone thought that 25 years ago, Flair and Hogan would be on the same team ever. Bischoff then introduced TNA champion Jeff Hardy, who comes out. Everyone in the ring claps for Hardy while the crowd is split. There is a loud "You sold out" chant. Hardy said he didn't sell out, he sold in. Hardy said that he doesn't care about his fans and reveals he was the one who was behind the Abyss attack on Rob Van Dam.
They cut to Sting and Kevin Nash watching backstage. Bischoff asks them to come to the ring and let bygones be bygones. Nash and Sting come out. Bischoff asks them to join the crew but Kevin says, "Thanks but no thanks." He cut a promo saying he is sticking with the TNA family and is "passing on the money this time." Sting says that he loves TNA and history won't be repeating itself, and turns them down as well. Bischoff says the offer stands when they change their mind.
*Madison Rayne cuts a promo and says that Tara beat her at Bound for Glory and that wasn't supposed to happen. Tara comes out and Rayne tells her that she is the only reason that Tara is back in TNA and Tara needs to do the right thing. Tara lays down and lets Rayne pin her. Madison begins celebrating but Mickie James comes out and says that she came to TNA to make history, so why not let it be tonight. Madison shoved Tara into her and ran off.
*Kurt Angle came out to no music to make a statement. There's a big "please don't go" chant from the crowd. Angle says he re-injured his ribs and his neck last night but before he announces his retirement, he wants answers. Out comes Jeff Jarrett, who tells him that Angle said he would retire if he didn't win the title. Angle says that he was the one who out TNA on the map, that his loss at the PPV was the final nail in TNA's coffin and Jarrett can have his ex-wife, but Angle is getting a piece of Jeff. Angle throws the mic down and goes for Jarrett but the two security guards take Angle down and handcuff him. Jarrett begins beating down. Taz finally takes of his headset and comes down, telling Jarrett to back off. Jarrett finally does and we don't have any official announcement of Angle retiring. Good segment.
*Samoa Joe defeated Abyss by DQ when Abyss attacked Joe with the ring bell, busting him open. Before Abyss could do any more damage, Rob Van Dam hit the ring and cut a promo calling out Hardy. Hardy appeared on the screen, talking about friendship. Bischoff comes out and says the main event tonight will be RVD vs. Mr. Anderson with the winner getting a shot at Hardy. RVD immediately accepts.
*Fortune defeated Pope Dinero in a four on one handicap match after Beer Money hit DWI on Pope, then beat him down after the match. Pope got in a good amount of offense.
*The Shore comes out and cuts a promo on The Jersey Show. JWoww comes out with The Beautiful People. Cookie makes fun of JWow, leading to a catfight between the two. Cookie ends up carried to the back by Robbie E.
*Ken Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam goes to a no contest after Eric Bischoff pulls the referee out of the ring. Jeff Hardy shows up and uses a chair on both of them. Some fans threw plastic bottles at Hardy but Universal security removed them immediately.
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Jeff Jarrett didn't sing his own theme music, though.
I looooove Santino. I'm glad that he's still employed by the E. I wish WWE had a legitimate tag team division, so Santino and Kozlov could be contenders. I also wish WWE would actually push them as a legitimate tag team. They have good face buzz, and, in a feud with Dashingly Sinister (Cody Rhodes, Drew McIntrye), Santino could work with his lovable face personality to genuine earn some appreciation from fans.
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8zO_DV09QE
Been catching up on Eastbound and Down and Danny McBride on Raw would have gotten me to watch it. If he came out like that I would have died.[/QUOTE]
Whoa.. where is that clip from..awesome
edit- ok.. so whatever eastbound and down is... thats a bad ass clip
Been catching up on Eastbound and Down and Danny McBride on Raw would have gotten me to watch it. If he came out like that I would have died.[/QUOTE]
Whoa.. where is that clip from..awesome
edit- ok.. so whatever eastbound and down is... thats a bad ass clip
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"I'm so sorry!" God help me I love the Big Show.
[quote name='ced']mykevermin, I'll see your post and raise you
Full circle....full circle.[/QUOTE]
In Your House 14: Revenge of the Taker. I'll never forget it. One of my favorite PPVs, Undertaker vs. Mankind, Bret vs. Austin. Honky Tonk Man debuts Rockabilly. "He used to be Billy Gunn, but today he's Rockabilly! *nobody cares*" Honky Tonk Man says he realized how tough Rockabilly was when he punched Honky Tonk in his "left jaw."
Rockabilly loses to Jesse James.
[quote name='ced']mykevermin, I'll see your post and raise you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h38XdPJxjw
Full circle....full circle.[/QUOTE]
In Your House 14: Revenge of the Taker. I'll never forget it. One of my favorite PPVs, Undertaker vs. Mankind, Bret vs. Austin. Honky Tonk Man debuts Rockabilly. "He used to be Billy Gunn, but today he's Rockabilly! *nobody cares*" Honky Tonk Man says he realized how tough Rockabilly was when he punched Honky Tonk in his "left jaw."
Rockabilly loses to Jesse James.
mykevermin
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That's not a half-bad song. Jim Johnston is quite good at what he does, though as a singer/lyricist he's ing dismal.
ing dismal.
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[quote name='Sporadic']TNA Impact spoilers from the taping.
dumb dumb dumb[/QUOTE]
HELL NAH....HELL...NAH
I didn't read that spoiler.....nah....
Each week I try my hardest to get my interest level up...and TNA smacks it back down! Are you serious???
Quick reply doesn't have a spoiler tag (idiotic) but damn....it starts off confusing, the middle is confusing, and the end is purposely confusing.
...Isn't Russo still the creative head?
We open up impact with Hulk Hogan's theme song and Hogan's pyro. Eric Bischoff and Hogan (still on crutches) come out and there is a mixture of cheers and boos in the building. There are some loud "Hogan sucks" chant as Biscoff introduces Hogan. Hogan says, "Enough of the crap" and that it's time to take what is their's. Fans chant "Please retire." Hogan says that Dixie Carter lied to him and sold him a false bill of good when it came to TNA, so now "Hollywood" Hogan is taking over TNA. Bischoff introduces the first member of Team Hogan, Abyss. Abyss hugs them and screams, "They're here!" Hogan calls Abyss his son. Bischoff them introduces Jeff Jarrett, who said that at first, he didn't see eye to eye with them but then realized they are on the same page. Bischoff cut a promo on Dixie, saying Dixie took Jeff's company from him, but Fourtune's music played and out came Ric Flair and Fourtune.
Flair said that Fortune runs TNA, not anyone else. Flair says that tonight, either he or Hogan have to leave TNA forever and they face off, then hug. Bischoff asked if anyone thought that 25 years ago, Flair and Hogan would be on the same team ever. Bischoff then introduced TNA champion Jeff Hardy, who comes out. Everyone in the ring claps for Hardy while the crowd is split. There is a loud "You sold out" chant. Hardy said he didn't sell out, he sold in. Hardy said that he doesn't care about his fans and reveals he was the one who was behind the Abyss attack on Rob Van Dam.
They cut to Sting and Kevin Nash watching backstage. Bischoff asks them to come to the ring and let bygones be bygones. Nash and Sting come out. Bischoff asks them to join the crew but Kevin says, "Thanks but no thanks." He cut a promo saying he is sticking with the TNA family and is "passing on the money this time." Sting says that he loves TNA and history won't be repeating itself, and turns them down as well. Bischoff says the offer stands when they change their mind.
*Madison Rayne cuts a promo and says that Tara beat her at Bound for Glory and that wasn't supposed to happen. Tara comes out and Rayne tells her that she is the only reason that Tara is back in TNA and Tara needs to do the right thing. Tara lays down and lets Rayne pin her. Madison begins celebrating but Mickie James comes out and says that she came to TNA to make history, so why not let it be tonight. Madison shoved Tara into her and ran off.
*Kurt Angle came out to no music to make a statement. There's a big "please don't go" chant from the crowd. Angle says he re-injured his ribs and his neck last night but before he announces his retirement, he wants answers. Out comes Jeff Jarrett, who tells him that Angle said he would retire if he didn't win the title. Angle says that he was the one who out TNA on the map, that his loss at the PPV was the final nail in TNA's coffin and Jarrett can have his ex-wife, but Angle is getting a piece of Jeff. Angle throws the mic down and goes for Jarrett but the two security guards take Angle down and handcuff him. Jarrett begins beating down. Taz finally takes of his headset and comes down, telling Jarrett to back off. Jarrett finally does and we don't have any official announcement of Angle retiring. Good segment.
*Samoa Joe defeated Abyss by DQ when Abyss attacked Joe with the ring bell, busting him open. Before Abyss could do any more damage, Rob Van Dam hit the ring and cut a promo calling out Hardy. Hardy appeared on the screen, talking about friendship. Bischoff comes out and says the main event tonight will be RVD vs. Mr. Anderson with the winner getting a shot at Hardy. RVD immediately accepts.
*Fortune defeated Pope Dinero in a four on one handicap match after Beer Money hit DWI on Pope, then beat him down after the match. Pope got in a good amount of offense.
*The Shore comes out and cuts a promo on The Jersey Show. JWoww comes out with The Beautiful People. Cookie makes fun of JWow, leading to a catfight between the two. Cookie ends up carried to the back by Robbie E.
*Ken Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam goes to a no contest after Eric Bischoff pulls the referee out of the ring. Jeff Hardy shows up and uses a chair on both of them. Some fans threw plastic bottles at Hardy but Universal security removed them immediately.
Flair said that Fortune runs TNA, not anyone else. Flair says that tonight, either he or Hogan have to leave TNA forever and they face off, then hug. Bischoff asked if anyone thought that 25 years ago, Flair and Hogan would be on the same team ever. Bischoff then introduced TNA champion Jeff Hardy, who comes out. Everyone in the ring claps for Hardy while the crowd is split. There is a loud "You sold out" chant. Hardy said he didn't sell out, he sold in. Hardy said that he doesn't care about his fans and reveals he was the one who was behind the Abyss attack on Rob Van Dam.
They cut to Sting and Kevin Nash watching backstage. Bischoff asks them to come to the ring and let bygones be bygones. Nash and Sting come out. Bischoff asks them to join the crew but Kevin says, "Thanks but no thanks." He cut a promo saying he is sticking with the TNA family and is "passing on the money this time." Sting says that he loves TNA and history won't be repeating itself, and turns them down as well. Bischoff says the offer stands when they change their mind.
*Madison Rayne cuts a promo and says that Tara beat her at Bound for Glory and that wasn't supposed to happen. Tara comes out and Rayne tells her that she is the only reason that Tara is back in TNA and Tara needs to do the right thing. Tara lays down and lets Rayne pin her. Madison begins celebrating but Mickie James comes out and says that she came to TNA to make history, so why not let it be tonight. Madison shoved Tara into her and ran off.
*Kurt Angle came out to no music to make a statement. There's a big "please don't go" chant from the crowd. Angle says he re-injured his ribs and his neck last night but before he announces his retirement, he wants answers. Out comes Jeff Jarrett, who tells him that Angle said he would retire if he didn't win the title. Angle says that he was the one who out TNA on the map, that his loss at the PPV was the final nail in TNA's coffin and Jarrett can have his ex-wife, but Angle is getting a piece of Jeff. Angle throws the mic down and goes for Jarrett but the two security guards take Angle down and handcuff him. Jarrett begins beating down. Taz finally takes of his headset and comes down, telling Jarrett to back off. Jarrett finally does and we don't have any official announcement of Angle retiring. Good segment.
*Samoa Joe defeated Abyss by DQ when Abyss attacked Joe with the ring bell, busting him open. Before Abyss could do any more damage, Rob Van Dam hit the ring and cut a promo calling out Hardy. Hardy appeared on the screen, talking about friendship. Bischoff comes out and says the main event tonight will be RVD vs. Mr. Anderson with the winner getting a shot at Hardy. RVD immediately accepts.
*Fortune defeated Pope Dinero in a four on one handicap match after Beer Money hit DWI on Pope, then beat him down after the match. Pope got in a good amount of offense.
*The Shore comes out and cuts a promo on The Jersey Show. JWoww comes out with The Beautiful People. Cookie makes fun of JWow, leading to a catfight between the two. Cookie ends up carried to the back by Robbie E.
*Ken Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam goes to a no contest after Eric Bischoff pulls the referee out of the ring. Jeff Hardy shows up and uses a chair on both of them. Some fans threw plastic bottles at Hardy but Universal security removed them immediately.
dumb dumb dumb[/QUOTE]
HELL NAH....HELL...NAH
I didn't read that spoiler.....nah....
Each week I try my hardest to get my interest level up...and TNA smacks it back down! Are you serious???
Quick reply doesn't have a spoiler tag (idiotic) but damn....it starts off confusing, the middle is confusing, and the end is purposely confusing.
...Isn't Russo still the creative head?
Survivalism
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[quote name='ced']mykevermin, I'll see your post and raise you *Rockabilly*
Full circle....full circle.[/QUOTE]
In Your House 14: Revenge of the Taker. I'll never forget it. One of my favorite PPVs, Undertaker vs. Mankind, Bret vs. Austin. Honky Tonk Man debuts Rockabilly. "He used to be Billy Gunn, but today he's Rockabilly! *nobody cares*" Honky Tonk Man says he realized how tough Rockabilly was when he punched Honky Tonk in his "left jaw."
Rockabilly loses to Jesse James.
Full circle....full circle.[/QUOTE]
In Your House 14: Revenge of the Taker. I'll never forget it. One of my favorite PPVs, Undertaker vs. Mankind, Bret vs. Austin. Honky Tonk Man debuts Rockabilly. "He used to be Billy Gunn, but today he's Rockabilly! *nobody cares*" Honky Tonk Man says he realized how tough Rockabilly was when he punched Honky Tonk in his "left jaw."
Rockabilly loses to Jesse James.
[quote name='mykevermin']Jeff Jarrett didn't sing his own theme music, though.
[/QUOTE]
*head explodes*
Some pro wrestling things I don't like:
WWE always had some great talent on their roster (i.e., Curt Hennig, Brian Pillman, Steve Austin, Fabulous Rougeaus, Scott Hall, etc.), but they always had so much filler (i.e., Natural Disasters, Dino Bravo, Jim Duggan, Savio Vega, Tom Zenk, etc.).
One aspect I have always appreciated about WWE is that, unlike WCW, they always had the right amount of people on their roster, and built characters. I may not like Hercules, Lex Luger, and Men on a Mission, but they were distinct characters.
WCW's roster, while they always had better wrestlers, became much too large a year, or so, after they acquired a TV deal. WWE had a lot of filler, but WCW had more (i.e., Jerry Flynn, Tom Zenk, Vincent, Craig Pittman, Norman Smiley, Van Hammer, Devon Storm, etc.).
I have no idea where I'm going with this post. I guess I mean to say: Some people clamor for the 1990s, and I understand why. The 1990s saw some great talent (i.e., Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Steve Austin, Bret Hart, Brian Pillman, etc.), and pro wrestling has not been the same since territories died.
But!
I would prefer today's landscape if there were a second, strong promotion to compete with WWE. I think the average wrestling match, in WWE, is better now than it was in the 1990s/1980s. I am not a fan of matches consisting of just dropkicks, bodyslams, and clotheslines. Sure, today's product lacks a lot of psychology and pacing, but, in the next few years, I think that will change (but that's pure speculation).
(Sorry for the long, unfocused post.)
*head explodes*
Some pro wrestling things I don't like:
Road Dogg
Hulk Hogan, in the late-1990s
Jeff Jarrett
Billy Gunn
The McMahons, as characters
Steve McMichael, as a wrestler and commentator
Lex Luger
New Jack
Ernest Miller
The Mean Street Posse
Mark Henry, before I learned tolerate him in 2009
Norman Smiley
Billy Kidman
Kendall Windham
Marty Jannette
Jim Duggan
Hulk Hogan, in the late-1990s
Jeff Jarrett
Billy Gunn
The McMahons, as characters
Steve McMichael, as a wrestler and commentator
Lex Luger
New Jack
Ernest Miller
The Mean Street Posse
Mark Henry, before I learned tolerate him in 2009
Norman Smiley
Billy Kidman
Kendall Windham
Marty Jannette
Jim Duggan
WWE always had some great talent on their roster (i.e., Curt Hennig, Brian Pillman, Steve Austin, Fabulous Rougeaus, Scott Hall, etc.), but they always had so much filler (i.e., Natural Disasters, Dino Bravo, Jim Duggan, Savio Vega, Tom Zenk, etc.).
One aspect I have always appreciated about WWE is that, unlike WCW, they always had the right amount of people on their roster, and built characters. I may not like Hercules, Lex Luger, and Men on a Mission, but they were distinct characters.
WCW's roster, while they always had better wrestlers, became much too large a year, or so, after they acquired a TV deal. WWE had a lot of filler, but WCW had more (i.e., Jerry Flynn, Tom Zenk, Vincent, Craig Pittman, Norman Smiley, Van Hammer, Devon Storm, etc.).
I have no idea where I'm going with this post. I guess I mean to say: Some people clamor for the 1990s, and I understand why. The 1990s saw some great talent (i.e., Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Steve Austin, Bret Hart, Brian Pillman, etc.), and pro wrestling has not been the same since territories died.
But!
I would prefer today's landscape if there were a second, strong promotion to compete with WWE. I think the average wrestling match, in WWE, is better now than it was in the 1990s/1980s. I am not a fan of matches consisting of just dropkicks, bodyslams, and clotheslines. Sure, today's product lacks a lot of psychology and pacing, but, in the next few years, I think that will change (but that's pure speculation).
(Sorry for the long, unfocused post.)
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God, the anaconda vice is so freakin' gnarly looking.
Still not the gnarliest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFsDUfgURgI
^^^WCW in general had no idea what they were doing. It's hilarious when you make a list of all the jobbers in WCW that went on to become people like Stone Cold, HHH, Edge, Batista, the Undertaker, Mick Foley, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, and even Jim Ross.
Still not the gnarliest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFsDUfgURgI
^^^WCW in general had no idea what they were doing. It's hilarious when you make a list of all the jobbers in WCW that went on to become people like Stone Cold, HHH, Edge, Batista, the Undertaker, Mick Foley, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, and even Jim Ross.
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[quote name='Chase']Nice hold.
A CM Punk-Matt Sydal feud on WWE TV? Sure.
[/QUOTE]
I read that Bourne needed shoulder surgery and they'd be doing an injury angle tonight.
A CM Punk-Matt Sydal feud on WWE TV? Sure.
[/QUOTE]I read that Bourne needed shoulder surgery and they'd be doing an injury angle tonight.
That explains the extent of Punk's beat-down of Bourne.
I do hope they feud when he gets back. That would be a very fun feud to watch.
By the way, Beth Phoenix looks even more incredible since she start some new training regimen. I can't find the pictures I saw, but you can get a glimpse at her Twitter account.
http://twitter.com/#!/bethphoenix
Edit: Punk-Danielson? Even better.
I do hope they feud when he gets back. That would be a very fun feud to watch.
By the way, Beth Phoenix looks even more incredible since she start some new training regimen. I can't find the pictures I saw, but you can get a glimpse at her Twitter account.
http://twitter.com/#!/bethphoenix
Edit: Punk-Danielson? Even better.
[quote name='Chase']That explains the extent of Punk's beat-down of Bourne.
I do hope they feud when he gets back. That would be a very fun feud to watch.
By the way, Beth Phoenix looks even more incredible since she start some new training regimen. I can't find the pictures I saw, but you can get a glimpse at her Twitter account.
http://twitter.com/#!/bethphoenix
Edit: Punk-Danielson? Even better.[/QUOTE]
I believe you were looking for this one
http://twitter.com/TheBethPhoenix
I do hope they feud when he gets back. That would be a very fun feud to watch.
By the way, Beth Phoenix looks even more incredible since she start some new training regimen. I can't find the pictures I saw, but you can get a glimpse at her Twitter account.
http://twitter.com/#!/bethphoenix
Edit: Punk-Danielson? Even better.
[/QUOTE]I believe you were looking for this one
http://twitter.com/TheBethPhoenix
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