The "Is This Game Rare?" Thread

[quote name='Doomstink']Honestly, I think within the next five years we will see that RPGs are no longer the go to genre for valuable games. Too many people are buying them with the expectation that they will become valuable. Also, since RPGs were primarily popular among those who grew up during the PS1 generation (who are now old enough to have disposable income), RPGs are "in vogue" with collectors at the moment. I think we'll see a change in the valuable genre in five years when the next generation of gamers has disposable income.

To support my claim, look at the Atari generation and notice that most of the valuable games are arcade ports. Those were the "it" genre when the Atari was available.

This will probably sound retarded to 90% of video game collectors, but I think the next valuable genre is going to be shooters. RPG games, while they will still hold a value, will not be the most valuable games from this generation.[/QUOTE]

Problem as someone else said is print run. RPGs generally receive small to moderate print runs. FPSers have HUGE print runs because they usually sell pretty well(even the meh ones). Maybe there will be a few FPSers that spring up thanks to the popularity over the last 10 years and become rare...but for the most part their print runs simply wont allow that to happen.
 
I guess I'm really considering sealed games over opened ones (as that is what I collect) and I think people will be completely overlooking shooters when it comes to keeping sealed copies primarily due to the logic that "these are overprinted and will never be worth money."

One RPG that stands out from the print run argument is FFVII. Arguably one of the highest printed and best selling games in history but yet it still has a relatively high value. I think some of the popular triple A shooters of today will fall into this category... then again I could be completely wrong.

I do still think that sealed copies of shooter games will maintain a high value because no one will bother keeping them, rather they will focus on RPGs.
 
[quote name='Doomstink']I guess I'm really considering sealed games over opened ones (as that is what I collect) and I think people will be completely overlooking shooters when it comes to keeping sealed copies primarily due to the logic that "these are overprinted and will never be worth money."

One RPG that stands out from the print run argument is FFVII. Arguably one of the highest printed and best selling games in history but yet it still has a relatively high value. I think some of the popular triple A shooters of today will fall into this category... then again I could be completely wrong.

I do still think that sealed copies of shooter games will maintain a high value because no one will bother keeping them, rather they will focus on RPGs.[/QUOTE]

I think part of the problem is that shooters evolve so much that the old ones are never as good in the future. For example. Golden Eye on N64 had such a great following and rave reviews, but people go back now and think it's the worst shooter ever. RPGs however, doesn't really evolve and is more story based, so it manages to maintain it's quality after 10 years.

Basically, I'm saying shooters most likely won't maintain value =P
 
[quote name='elessar123']I think part of the problem is that shooters evolve so much that the old ones are never as good in the future. For example. Golden Eye on N64 had such a great following and rave reviews, but people go back now and think it's the worst shooter ever. RPGs however, doesn't really evolve and is more story based, so it manages to maintain it's quality after 10 years.

Basically, I'm saying shooters most likely won't maintain value =P[/QUOTE]

But what about shooters that tell stories, like Bioshock or Uncharted 2? Older shooters like Goldeneye didn't feel it necessary to tell compelling stories, but current gen shooters tell stories that rival Hollywood blockbusters.

I do understand that some shooters are constantly made irrelevant by their sequels, but some (like Bioshock) will always remain classic.

Also, I kind of think people going back to play the original Final Fantasy games (or many other old school RPGs) feel the same way as a person going back to play Goldeneye. Both genre's predecessors feel horribly dated.

I honestly think that one of the major factors in game value is what was popular for each respective generation of gamers. For most of the 90s and early 00s, Japan dominated the game industry. On top of that during the late 90s, anime had an explosion of popularity in America. As much as everyone is saying that RPGs were underground in the late 90s and early 00s, they weren't. Everyone I knew back then played RPGs. Everything Japanese was cool with my generation (I'm 23 now, no idea what my generation is called). With kids nowadays, I'm not sure if it is still that way. Japan has taken a backseat to America when it comes to game development and Anime has virtually disappeared from TV. RPGs are no longer the "in vogue" genre with younger gamers. When they get older they will not be looking for RPGs, they will be looking for other genres and it is my belief that it will be shooters purely because the Shooter today is the RPG of the late 90s... if that makes any sense.

I'm really bad at describing my thoughts.
 
I see what you mean, but also look at it this way. I thought Unreal (the first one) told a great story, and many people at the time thought the same. It's still not really a collector's item.

However, there are some rare shooters that become more sought after. For example, I managed to find American McGee's Alice in a Good Will for like $3 when it was maybe $20 on ebay. Now it's like $50 on ebay.
 
I think the thing that will seperate current gen from previous gens is that devs feel the need to beef up online while making the actual SP story secondary, like COD4 and MW2. Both had great stories, but clocked in at maybe 4-7 hours. If the 360 follows the same path that the OG Xbox did, with Live support being cut 10 years from now, what is the motivation for buying a game that was built with Live in mind?
 
Actually doomstick has a great point. If you look at the price of SNES RPGs to PS1 RPGs to PS2 RPsG, the price is going downward. would it be really surprising in 5 years to see a sealed Modern Warfare worth more than a sealed Disgaea 3?
 
[quote name='62t']Actually doomstick has a great point. If you look at the price of SNES RPGs to PS1 RPGs to PS2 RPsG, the price is going downward. would it be really surprising in 5 years to see a sealed Modern Warfare worth more than a sealed Disgaea 3?[/QUOTE]

The reason there were such valuable and rare games in the past was because developers and publishers could take more risks due to game development costs being lower. Nowadays, it costs so much to produce a title for the current systems that they can't really take a risk on something they know may not sell well. Thus, more of the games now are mass produced. Something like Call of Duty Modern Warfare will never be rare or worth money; maybe if they released a limited special version, but as it stands, no. It's basically the Grand Theft Auto PS2 series of this generation, that so many copies are produced that even years later sealed copies aren't worth squat.
 
Ok here is a weird one for you guys and one im not sure on myself. Is the Zelda a Link to the Past Gold cart version rare at all? Iv not seen many of them...but something tells me they are not rare.

@Doomstink elbarating that you think sealed copies could be rare I can see more. Basic copies of modern warefare I highly highly doubt it...but a sealed copy...that could POSSIBLY be something.
 
[quote name='62t']Actually doomstick has a great point. If you look at the price of SNES RPGs to PS1 RPGs to PS2 RPsG, the price is going downward. would it be really surprising in 5 years to see a sealed Modern Warfare worth more than a sealed Disgaea 3?[/QUOTE]

The problem with that analysis is that if you look at SNES to PS1 to PS2 to PS3, you're not making a clear argument for a downward trend of popularity among RPGs (even though I think there's some validity to the postulate). The further back you go, the older the title is and the longer out of print it's been. You can't just chalk it up to popularity because there's not enough data to make that assumption.

What I'm saying is, of course PS2 RPGs are going down in price. They're still available in stores. Years ago, I could've bought Xenogears and Final Fantasy VII for $10 a piece everywhere. Now they're not available in stores, and as such, have risen in value because they're demanded titles.
 
[quote name='Rozz']The reason there were such valuable and rare games in the past was because developers and publishers could take more risks due to game development costs being lower. Nowadays, it costs so much to produce a title for the current systems that they can't really take a risk on something they know may not sell well. Thus, more of the games now are mass produced. Something like Call of Duty Modern Warfare will never be rare or worth money; maybe if they released a limited special version, but as it stands, no. It's basically the Grand Theft Auto PS2 series of this generation, that so many copies are produced that even years later sealed copies aren't worth squat.[/QUOTE]

It is because the user base of the system gotten a lot bigger.

A sealed Grand Theft Auto: San Andrea Special Edition sold for $90. Thats the version they released after it being a AO game.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grand-Theft-Aut...temQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item20afc373ed
 
[quote name='GuardianE']The problem with that analysis is that if you look at SNES to PS1 to PS2 to PS3, you're not making a clear argument for a downward trend of popularity among RPGs (even though I think there's some validity to the postulate). The further back you go, the older the title is and the longer out of print it's been. You can't just chalk it up to popularity because there's not enough data to make that assumption.

What I'm saying is, of course PS2 RPGs are going down in price. They're still available in stores. Years ago, I could've bought Xenogears and Final Fantasy VII for $10 a piece everywhere. Now they're not available in stores, and as such, have risen in value because they're demanded titles.[/QUOTE]

Aside from a few games many RPG has stay around the same price. 10 years ago a used FFVIII cost about $15. Today it cost about $15.
 
[quote name='62t']It is because the user base of the system gotten a lot bigger.

A sealed Grand Theft Auto: San Andrea Special Edition sold for $90. Thats the version they released after it being a AO game.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grand-Theft-Aut...temQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item20afc373ed[/QUOTE]

That is because, like I said, it's a SPECIAL EDITION that received a low print run. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas received a normal edition "M" reprint. In fact, the Greatest Hits version of San Andreas is still in print for the PS2. A sealed San Andreas for PS2 right now goes for a whopping $15-$20 on average.
 
[quote name='62t']Aside from a few games many RPG has stay around the same price. 10 years ago a used FFVIII cost about $15. Today it cost about $15.[/QUOTE]

Isn't Final Fantasy VIII still in print? I'm pretty sure IX is, but I wasn't sure about VIII.

EDIT: Yup. It's still in print. That's why it's the same price. Again, you're comparing two different things. The game is still readily available sealed.
 
[quote name='Rozz']That is because, like I said, it's a SPECIAL EDITION that received a low print run. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas received a normal edition "M" reprint. In fact, the Greatest Hits version of San Andreas is still in print for the PS2. A sealed San Andreas for PS2 right now goes for a whopping $15 on average.[/QUOTE]

That the version they printed tons of copies after the recall. The regular SA got AO rated after the hot coffee thing. There is nothing special or limited about it.
 
[quote name='62t']That the version they printed tons of copies after the recall. The regular SA got M rated after the hot coffee thing. There is nothing special or limited about it.[/QUOTE]

You originally quoted me in my response as to why Call of Duty: Modern Warefare 2 won't command a high sealed price one day like many of the rare games of yesteryear. I compared it to Grand Theft Auto, where I said it will be worth as much as those sealed unless it was a Special Edition. You pointed me to an auction where a sealed Special Edition San Andreas went for a lot, and I responded by saying that it sold well because it's a Special Edition. However, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 on itself wouldn't sell like that as millions of copies have already been produced and there has been no recall and there is nothing special about the normal edition that would make it rare or collectible.

Another example is the original Bioshock. That game on its own probably won't command much years down the road, but the Limited Edition, which had a short run, will if sealed.
 
How rare is the Tales of Vesperia LE for X360 actually? I own a copy and it is in pretty much perfect condition. I also own two copies [each] of Vol. 2 & 3 of the Tales 10th Anniversary Soundtrack ...why they sent me two copies; I will never know.
 
[quote name='Rozz']You originally quoted me in my response as to why Call of Duty: Modern Warefare 2 won't command a high sealed price one day like many of the rare games of yesteryear. I compared it to Grand Theft Auto, where I said it will be worth as much as those sealed unless it was a Special Edition. You pointed me to an auction where a sealed Special Edition San Andreas went for a lot, and I responded by saying that it sold well because it's a Special Edition. However, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 on itself wouldn't sell like that as millions of copies have already been produced and there has been no recall and there is nothing special about the normal edition that would make it rare or collectible.

Another example is the original Bioshock. That game on its own probably won't command much years down the road, but the Limited Edition, which had a short run, will if sealed.[/QUOTE]

I am referring to something like sealed Modern Warfare 1 (non GOTY). Even though there are tons of used and GOTY version, there are very few sealed of the original and in the long run I think it will worth more than many current generation RPG.

And the san Andreas Special Edition is just a way for them to separate the recalled AO version. There is nothing special or limited about it.
 
[quote name='62t']I am referring to something like sealed Modern Warfare 1 (non GOTY). Even though there are tons of used and GOTY version, there are very few sealed of the original and in the long run it will worth more than many current generation RPG.

And the san Andreas Special Edition is just a way for them to separate the recall AO version. There is nothing special or limited about it.[/QUOTE]

Well, the Special Edition of San Andreas did receive a lower print run, had some minor in-game fixes, and a bonus DVD and box.
 
[quote name='Rozz']Well, the Special Edition of San Andreas did receive a lower print run, had some minor in-game fixes, and a bonus DVD and box.[/QUOTE]

That is true. Anyway my point is that it is not nothing like Bioshock or Mass Effecr LE that were gone in a week. It was in print for a solid 4 months during the holidays.

Anyway this is good discussion for people to think outside the box on what could be rare.
 
[quote name='Rozz']
Another example is the original Bioshock. That game on its own probably won't command much years down the road, but the Limited Edition, which had a short run, will if sealed.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think "white label" sealed copies of the standard edition of Bioshock are already worth a decent markup.

I just think there has been a serious decline in the popularity of RPGs/Anime/Japanese games, and in a few years the RPG market will be the same size because of that decline. Older games will still be worth money because when they were released, the people who want them now were too young to afford them. Current gen RPG games will not be in such demand because RPG gamers have grown (and so has their wallet), most RPG fans nowadays buy what they want immediately when it releases.

Young gamers now are playing shooters and other western genres, when they get older they will go out and search for the titles they missed when they were young. Those titles will wind up going up in value because of an increase in demand.

I'm not saying RPG games will be worthless, but I don't think the next holy grail rarity will be an RPG. It will be something absolutely no one expects from a completely different genre. As I said, gamers are expecting RPGs to be rare and are hoarding them while ignoring other titles. Due to this, there will be too many RPGs on the market in the future and supply will probably meet demand. The other games that we overlooked now will be in short-supply.

Print-run does play a huge role in the price of a game, but nostalgia and word of mouth plays a factor as well. As FFVII has proven, a huge print run does not always satisfy the demand as long as word of mouth is strong. Surely when these young gamers get older, Bioshock will be spoken of with the highest of reverence, and thus, demand will increase.

There's other games that fit this bill, but I think Bioshock is the best example. As of now it has sold millions of copies, but there's TONS of 12 and under gamers who did not yet experience this game (and rightfully so), when they grow up they will want to play it and have it in their collection. By this logic, demand could easily outstrip supply in five to ten years.
 
[quote name='Doomstink']Actually, I think "white label" sealed copies of the standard edition of Bioshock are already worth a decent markup.

Young gamers now are playing shooters and other western genres, when they get older they will go out and search for the titles they missed when they were young. Those titles will wind up going up in value because of an increase in demand.

I'm not saying RPG games will be worthless, but I don't think the next holy grail rarity will be an RPG. It will be something absolutely no one expects from a completely different genre. As I said, gamers are expecting RPGs to be rare and are hoarding them while ignoring other titles. Due to this, there will be too many RPGs on the market in the future and supply will probably meet demand. The other games that we overlooked now will be in short-supply.

Print-run does play a huge role in the price of a game, but nostalgia and word of mouth plays a factor as well. As FFVII has proven, a huge print run does not always satisfy the demand as long as word of mouth is strong. Surely when these young gamers get older, Bioshock will be spoken of with the highest of reverence, and thus, demand will increase.

There's other games that fit this bill, but I think Bioshock is the best example. As of now it has sold millions of copies, but there's TONS of 12 and under gamers who did not yet experience this game (and rightfully so), when they grow up they will want to play it and have it in their collection. By this logic, demand could easily outstrip supply in five years.[/QUOTE]

I just don't think it's genre specific. It's not as black and white as you're making it (one genre dominates a generation and thereby those games boost in value). If we assumed as much, Mario and Sonic games should be incredibly high in value because that generation's popularity was mostly dominated by platformers and sidescrollers, but they aren't.

We often cite older JRPGs because they fit a certain criteria. They have a strong following, invoke nostaligia, are generally story centric and thereby timeless (debatable, but I'm willing to bet age doesn't bother most fans), and have a relatively low print run (obvious exceptions to this, but rare). It's not because they're JRPGs that they're inherently valuable, rather it just so happens that most older JRPGs tend to fit this criteria. As the JRPG market is oversaturated right now (mostly with Square titles) people have become wary of most JRPGs and what they offer.

Older (Capcom) fighting games tend to fit this criteria. You can see that Capcom vs. SNK 2 is already $30 used on the PS2, and older PS1 Capcom fighting games have gone up in price too.

Out of the examples given thus far, Bioshock is likely the best contender but, if you think there are really tons of 12 year olds who haven't had the opportunity to play this game, I think you're underestimating the complete disregard the majority of parents have for the ESRB system.
 
I think the line of thinking is the 12 years old can't afford every single game or keep a sealed copy. When he turns 22, he is going to have money to spend. He might be overpaying for a sealed copy of a game he didnt own as a kid or a game he had a great time and want a sealed copy for his collection.
 
[quote name='Kush']How rare is the Tales of Vesperia LE for X360 actually? I own a copy and it is in pretty much perfect condition. I also own two copies [each] of Vol. 2 & 3 of the Tales 10th Anniversary Soundtrack ...why they sent me two copies; I will never know.[/QUOTE]

Around 6,000-7,000 was the last cited number I read. Which makes sense, since around there is the lowest print run you can order from Steelbook.


[quote name='62t']I think the line of thinking is the 12 years old can't afford every single game or keep a sealed copy. When he turns 22, he is going to have money to spend. He might be overpaying for a sealed copy of a game he didnt own as a kid or a game he had a great time and want a sealed copy for his collection.[/QUOTE]

I suppose that makes more sense.

I still think that the value of these games is not so much dependent on the genre as it is on the quality. JRPGs have seen a perceived decline of quality. The majority of them are ill received nowadays or print in ridiculously huge quantities.

Those that are well received among fans are the ones that will go up in price, regardless of the genre.
 
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[quote name='MSI Magus']I am wondering if Katamari Forever is going to follow suit. Its price has simply refused to drop! Me and my Katamari also has been stubborn and largly stayed in the $20ish area which is a fair amount for an old PSP game, makes me wonder if it could be a contender down the line.[/QUOTE]for katamari forever, i dont think so for now. beautiful katamari was a great game and like all the other katamari titles, sold probably close to 100k-200k. its really sad to see how the PS3 just turned 4 and there are only a handful of titles you can consider as collectible. the ninja gaiden sigma collectors edition should be worth a pretty penny within a few years time unless they decide not to release any new NG games soon.

[quote name='elessar123']I think part of the problem is that shooters evolve so much that the old ones are never as good in the future. For example. Golden Eye on N64 had such a great following and rave reviews, but people go back now and think it's the worst shooter ever. RPGs however, doesn't really evolve and is more story based, so it manages to maintain it's quality after 10 years.

Basically, I'm saying shooters most likely won't maintain value =P[/QUOTE]its still a little early to say that these days. shooters is here to stay so the more games they release, a few of those will sure be collectible in the near future. while goldeneye didnt really stand through time, you may still find that a sealed copy could fetch over $100 or maybe more. RPG's are more collectible because its such a niche genre that not everyone (stores) are willing to take a risk and stack up on them.

[quote name='Kush']How rare is the Tales of Vesperia LE for X360 actually? I own a copy and it is in pretty much perfect condition. I also own two copies [each] of Vol. 2 & 3 of the Tales 10th Anniversary Soundtrack ...why they sent me two copies; I will never know.[/QUOTE] its pretty rare. it wasnt in stock on amazon for too long and the only place to find them after that were game crazy stores. then amazon briefly had some and then went oos again.

im just afraid that if vesperia ps3 makes it to the U.S. that the value of the 360 CE will get destroyed. unless they decide to release it as a regular version then i think it would be ok.

the reason why you have extra copies is because not everyone sent in for their free soundtrack, which makes it even more rare cause theres less of it out there (though not entirely considered valuable). alot of people that didnt send it in kept the game sealed.

[quote name='Rozz']The reason there were such valuable and rare games in the past was because developers and publishers could take more risks due to game development costs being lower. Nowadays, it costs so much to produce a title for the current systems that they can't really take a risk on something they know may not sell well. Thus, more of the games now are mass produced. Something like Call of Duty Modern Warfare will never be rare or worth money; maybe if they released a limited special version, but as it stands, no. It's basically the Grand Theft Auto PS2 series of this generation, that so many copies are produced that even years later sealed copies aren't worth squat.[/QUOTE]
it all just comes down to which games will generate the most money. publishers likes to publish hits. a new IP is a risk they usually dont like to take unless the initial response is positive.

im not sure if anyone remembers this, but Afrika received a great deal of buzz when it was first announced but when it was finally brought to the states, it was distributed by natsume and not sony themselves (although sony was the one that published it). they probably already took alot of loss in the japanese market. http://www.vgchartz.com/game/game.php?id=13634&region=All

i think they did the same thing for Brave Story for the PSP.
 
im curious about G1 Jockey 3 (PS2) , i picked it up from GS yesterday (mint cib) for $5.99. I was pleasantly surprised it has a R4 rating on Digitalpress. Did i find a treasure?
 
[quote name='Drclaw411']Are there any actual "rare" games form the 360, PS3, or Wii yet? Down the road I think Afrika will be extremley hard to find. But as far as rare right now, is there anything for this console generation?[/QUOTE]

Well, some early release PS3 games like Ridge Racer 7 is somewhat hard to find, a new one that is. And then there are some Special Editions or Limited Editions that are hard to find, depends on the conditions that you are looking for though. I did find a copy of Devil May Cry 4 Collector Edition for 360 at Wal-Mart last month, so not all those "editions" might be that hard to find. Couple ones that are rare comes to mind for PS3 are:

Metal Gear Solid 4 Limited Edition
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Collector's Edition
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Collector's Edition
Resistance 2 Collector's Edition

Just some off the top of my head at the moment. Oh and there is one that is basically impossible to get unless you got wads of cash or extremely lucky and that is the Uncharted 2: Fortune Hunter Edition. But they designed that way to make it rare, so...


[quote name='62t']It is because the user base of the system gotten a lot bigger.

A sealed Grand Theft Auto: San Andrea Special Edition sold for $90. Thats the version they released after it being a AO game.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Grand-Theft-Aut...temQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item20afc373ed[/QUOTE]

Wow, I got a copy of that. Sealed too, was not too interested in opening it after borrow it from a friend and hear it was long.
 
[quote name='lude21']im curious about G1 Jockey 3 (PS2) , i picked it up from GS yesterday (mint cib) for $5.99. I was pleasantly surprised it has a R4 rating on Digitalpress. Did i find a treasure?[/QUOTE]

you can sell it for $20
 
[quote name='62t']you can sell it for $20[/QUOTE]

well, im not planning on selling it, just got it for the collection. Im more concerned how rare it is.
 
[quote name='lude21']well, im not planning on selling it, just got it for the collection. Im more concerned how rare it is.[/QUOTE]
its probably hard to find but its not even close to being rare. fwiw, gallop racer 2006 was sought after until it was reprinted. still fetches a good amount but theres too many of it out there now.
 
Ok, here's an interesting one. Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman! - they said this game would get a UMD release if it got 1000 preorders, which I don't think ever happened. Then there was the whole thing with the name having to be changed.

But, I think it was released in Europe and/or Australia on UMD so...might that be rare or valuable some day? I don't even know if the title was (or will be) changed in those regions. And on top of that the sequel might come out on UMD and is supposed to include the first game in full. This is starting to give me a headache.

Anyway, I was just thinking it might be kind of cool to have a physical copy with the original title, any thoughts?
 
[quote name='N3UROP0D']Ok, here's an interesting one. Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman! - they said this game would get a UMD release if it got 1000 preorders, which I don't think ever happened. Then there was the whole thing with the name having to be changed.

But, I think it was released in Europe and/or Australia on UMD so...might that be rare or valuable some day? I don't even know if the title was (or will be) changed in those regions. And on top of that the sequel might come out on UMD and is supposed to include the first game in full. This is starting to give me a headache.

Anyway, I was just thinking it might be kind of cool to have a physical copy with the original title, any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I have actually been wondering about this myself and looking for a copy on the cheap for this exact reason. I am wondering if the name change could make it rare....but at the same time I realize that the game probably had a limited print run anyways so the name change should not effect it that much.
 
[quote name='N3UROP0D']Ok, here's an interesting one. Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman! - they said this game would get a UMD release if it got 1000 preorders, which I don't think ever happened. Then there was the whole thing with the name having to be changed.

But, I think it was released in Europe and/or Australia on UMD so...might that be rare or valuable some day? I don't even know if the title was (or will be) changed in those regions. And on top of that the sequel might come out on UMD and is supposed to include the first game in full. This is starting to give me a headache.

Anyway, I was just thinking it might be kind of cool to have a physical copy with the original title, any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Well there are a number of PSP games that got Japan and Europe release, but not really rare.
 
[quote name='N3UROP0D']Ok, here's an interesting one. Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman! - they said this game would get a UMD release if it got 1000 preorders, which I don't think ever happened. Then there was the whole thing with the name having to be changed.

But, I think it was released in Europe and/or Australia on UMD so...might that be rare or valuable some day? I don't even know if the title was (or will be) changed in those regions. And on top of that the sequel might come out on UMD and is supposed to include the first game in full. This is starting to give me a headache.

Anyway, I was just thinking it might be kind of cool to have a physical copy with the original title, any thoughts?[/QUOTE]if for any reason there is an actual physical copy of the game, or even a case for that matter, then yeah it could have some potential..
 
I have an Okami traditional teacup from Japan that has Amaterasu running with plants growing under foot on one side and the blue wolf on the other. It has red Japanese calligraphy writing on the bottom. All I can read is "2006 Winter". I'm guessing it's some kind of promotional item when it was released. Anyone know the details of it's origins or how much it might be worth? It's pretty big too, not some dinky miniature.
 
[quote name='dragoon99']I have an Okami traditional teacup from Japan that has Amaterasu running with plants growing under foot on one side and the blue wolf on the other. It has red Japanese calligraphy writing on the bottom. All I can read is "2006 Winter". I'm guessing it's some kind of promotional item when it was released. Anyone know the details of it's origins or how much it might be worth? It's pretty big too, not some dinky miniature.[/QUOTE]

No clue what its worth, but im a big Okami fan so if you ever do find out its worth let me know what you would want to trade it(if your willing).
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']No clue what its worth, but im a big Okami fan so if you ever do find out its worth let me know what you would want to trade it(if your willing).[/QUOTE]

I might be willing to trade/sell it in the future. It really is unique, I never seen one before. I'll be taking pics of it to help with the identification. If someone could read the rest of the text on the bottom that might tell us more about the origin.
 
[quote name='Pavel6969']I have no idea about anything related to Atari, what do you guys think this package is worth?[/QUOTE]Honestly? I've never seen an Atari 2600 like that before in person (seen allot of wood ones) and the ones I saw from a Google search that looked mostly like that... Well, I said it right there. They only look mostly like that.

I'm guessing the one for sale there has cosmetic damage. Granted, that's cosmetic and it might work just fine but...

The game labels I can read and/or recognize all look to be fairly common but there's allot I cannot make out and/or completely obscured...

So for 150 bucks I think you could do allot better.
 
That is an Atari 2600 Jr. It is the last model of the 2600 that Atari made, after the NES came out. The whole bundle is worth $40-50 at the most. The games are likely worth no more than $1-4 each. Those joysticks tend to trend up into the $teens.

Those joysticks are Tac-2s and very desirable. Rather than using metal dimple buttons on a circuit board to create electrical contacts like the orig Atari Joysticks, they have a metal ball at the bottom of the stick that presses against metal contact plates--it is very accurate, though some think the Wico Stick which uses similar tech has a better form factor. I had Tac-2s growing up and remember them fondly--they are very durable. If the Tac-2s break, they are not repairable. New Atari sticks can be bought on ebay, and repair parts are still made.

That is a nice, though very average selection of games. Summer Games and Ghostbusters tend to be hard to find. The Activision carts will likely give you problems--Activision circuit boards are notoriously thinner than other manufacturer's boards, and it can be hard to get a good connection in the 2600 cartridge slot--they are very fiddly. If u must have Activision games, you should buy the Activision Anthology for the GBA or the PS2 as a back-up--for what its worth, the GBA cart has more games on it than the PS2 disc. Keep in mind also that Activision labels "age" horribly--the labels were attached with the worst glue, and even "new, in unopened box" cartridges come out of the box splotchy due to the glue/paper/age/acid interactions. The black carts with the angled fronts with blue type on black (along with the ones with white labels) are M Network games, made by Mattel--they are essentially Intellivision games.

The console is worth about $35ish. I like the smaller form factor of the 2600 Jr. Its essentially a small four switch, with the difficulty switches on the back. It does have a faint power-on light on the power button on the left front.

I just replaced my soon to be broken 4 switch with a Jr that I bought off of Craigslist. The Jrs do develop an issue with the mylar in their sliding switches breaking, but I have no idea how common the problem is.

I strongly recommend any Atari owner buy a set of extension cables--they use the same cable as the Sega Genesis. The part on any 2600 that wears out first is the controller port--from swapping out paddles and sticks. The ports are welded directly to the mother board and the welds crack through wear from repeated plugging and unplugging (like Firewire ports on 1st Gen iPods)--they are easy to fix if you know how to weld, but avoidable if you use extension cables.

Learn more about the 2600 and the rarity of the cartridges in the picture here:
http://www.atariage.com/
 
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[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']
The original Endless Ocean was both rare and valuable but the sequel killed it.

Beautiful Katamari (360) is somewhat uncommon and occasionally will spike randomly and trade pretty high relative to used store price. That might be a good candidate down the road.[/QUOTE]

Some Wal-Marts will still have Endless Ocean for $19.96 if they haven't been bought up already. I bought the last 2 copies they had when I was browsing one day.

Beatiful Katamari I imagine dropping because of being released on Xbox Live. I found 2 copies last summer for $9.99 each at a K-Mart. Sold one to my cousin for cost while I traded another one for a sealed Katamari Forever here.
 
ok, i need help with this one. i found a cart only Obelix (atari 2600) today at a flea market for $1, from what i read the US version is very rare unlike the PAL version. How do i know which one i have? It has the model # 26117. i heard the PAL version has a "P" on the end label, mine doesnt. Can anyone help me out with this one?
 
[quote name='lude21']ok, i need help with this one. i found a cart only Obelix (atari 2600) today at a flea market for $1, from what i read the US version is very rare unlike the PAL version. How do i know which one i have? It has the model # 26117. i heard the PAL version has a "P" on the end label, mine doesnt. Can anyone help me out with this one?[/QUOTE]

US - http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=1021

PAL - http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=329

Sounds like you go the US, but both appear to have the same rarity.
 
[quote name='RoadDogg']US - http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=1021

PAL - http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=329

Sounds like you go the US, but both appear to have the same rarity.[/QUOTE]


NICE! thx man, i couldn't find a pic. Ya i got the US version, but from what ive read its much rarer than the PAL version. Im just glad its one of the 3 i cherry picked from a big box of them. Then i saw a local reseller have the box in his hands 5 min. later. Haaaa

DigitalPress gave it a R7-
http://www.digitpress.com/DP/cmf/game.cmf?gameid=24149
 
That site I linked to has both the US and PAL at a 7 rarity level. Either way, sounds like a good deal. I never understood why Asterix games end up fairly rare, i guess the comic just wasn't popular enough over here to justify high run rates.
 
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