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[quote name='Survivalism']Imagine having to live up to Mr. f-ing Perfect.

I think Punk just sprayed Morrison with Arrogance.[/QUOTE]

Blindfold match next week?
 
[quote name='basilofbkrst']How does a crowd not take it's queue to chant "you suck"?[/QUOTE]
Because the crowd doesn't care.
 
Some of you are giving WWE far too much credit for subtly weaving clues into promos. This company doesn't book more than a few weeks in advance (if that). The idea that they're dropping Lost-level clues is laughable.
 
[quote name='lombarvm']Blindfold match next week?[/QUOTE]

I vote 'yes.' Can't be worse than a Bellas match.

[quote name='basilofbkrst']How does a crowd not take it's queue to chant "you suck"?[/QUOTE]


The five-year-old kids (that make up most of WWE's present audience) didn't want to be 'grounded.'

Did anyone else cringe when Jerry Lawler used the word "poop"?
 
[quote name='neocisco']Some of you are giving WWE far too much credit for subtly weaving clues into promos. This company doesn't book more than a few weeks in advance (if that). The idea that they're dropping Lost-level clues is laughable.[/QUOTE]


If you type "22111" while on the Raw roster page, Sting's 'Crow' music begins to play.
 
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No Ahmed Johnson in the Black History article on WWE.com

I'm half joking/half serious.. he was a pretty big part of WWE in the mid-late 90's.
 
Sorta expected to see the Rock on the cover of that article. Do 'halfricans' celebrate Black History Month?

People missing from that WWE article graphic: Lawrence Taylor, Bad News Allen, Big Daddy V, Mike Tyson, Maven, Booker T, Chilly Willy, and the Godfather.
 
I'd love to see a Santino-Alberto Del Rio mini-feud where Del Rio puts up his number one contender title. Of course, Del Rio would win, but it would be good for Santino's history.
 
[quote name='Habbler']Well the Johnny Cash song just gave it away totally. I'm 99.9% convinced 2/21/11 is Undertaker now.[/QUOTE]

I spent the past 90 minutes on the phone w/ customer service on account of my cell phone being stolen today, so I've missed every bit of Raw except what I looked up to see.

They layed "Ain't No Grave" over the 2-21-11 video? Well, that only leads to one obvious conclusion on who's going to return in two weeks.


edit:
image and punchline removed as they were found overly offensive.
regards,
gwen
 
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The only way I'll find Michael Cole to be tolerable as a commentator is if they let him turn 100-percent heel. Cole saying he finds John Cena to be boring is progress.

Josh Matthews, as face commentator, and Michael Cole, as heel commentator, with Matt Striker as the play-by-play guy is the best option for Raw/WWE.
 
[quote name='Chase']Josh Matthews, as face commentator, and Michael Cole, as heel commentator, with Matt Striker as the play-by-play guy is the best option for Raw/WWE.[/QUOTE]

I like this idea
 
You know, on closer inspection those don't look like the Undertaker's boots. /probablyirrelevant

Edit: Probably so that they made noise on the floor.
 
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[quote name='Survivalism']You know, on closer inspection those don't look like the Undertaker's boots. /probablyirrelevant[/QUOTE]

I don't watch wrestling anymore with that kind of attention to detail/interest. Explain more, please.
 
I think Taker wears laced boots now and those didn't look like they had them...probably is irrelevant because they probably didn't even use Taker to film those ads since all they're showing is a foot and the bottom of a trenchcoat.
 
[quote name='diddy310']I think Taker wears laced boots now and those didn't look like they had them...probably is irrelevant because they probably didn't even use Taker to film those ads since all they're showing is a foot and the bottom of a trenchcoat.[/QUOTE]

From the first promo from last week, I noticed the boots looked a bit curled on the tips. Just an observation.
 
[quote name='Chronis']I like this idea[/QUOTE]


Josh Matthews has progressed quite nicely as a commentator. As many of us saw on that one season of NXT, when WWE lets Matthews, Cole, and Striker be themselves, it really adds some personality to the broadcast.

Under the Vince McMahon gun, Matthews performs well. Striker can be fantastic so long as Vince McMahon isn't yelling at him. Cole actually does worse when fed his persona.

[quote name='Survivalism']You know, on closer inspection those don't look like the Undertaker's boots. /probablyirrelevant

Edit: Probably so that they made noise on the floor.[/QUOTE]


I noticed that in the video, but, as Myke said, I think we're reading too much into a detail.

I have never been a person who praises the in-ring work of Sting—but I do like his personality and the persona he helped establish. Well, that is, prior to the whole "Wolfpac Sting" nonsense, and the subsequent years to WCW's death. However, in 1996, his gimmick change to 'Crow' Sting is one of my favorite moments in pro wrestling.

And, if the following music hits, on '2 21 11', any time during the show, I will mark-out like I did for many WCW moments in the first half of my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9400Tv5yHQU
 
Wait - so Vince was the "big return" tonight?

The word "meh" conveys more emotion than I actually feel towards that idea.

WrestleMania guest host = someone I know I won't care about. Todd Pettingil? Pamela Anderson? Chuck Norris? William Shatner promoting "Tek War" on DVD?

meeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh.
 
I had forgotten all about Tek War until you mentioned it, thanks for dredging up that memory...:puke:
 
The WrestleMania guest host is said to be Justin Bieber. In today's world, that's a strong selection to perhaps draw buys to a, seemingly, weak WrestleMania card.
 
Did anyone else see Rogers with the Flair belt over his shoulder while hoisting the Super Bowl trophy last night? Loved it.
 
[quote name='neocisco']Did anyone else see Rogers with the Flair belt over his shoulder while hoisting the Super Bowl trophy last night? Loved it.[/QUOTE]

only 2/3 of everyone watching tv did last night drrrrrr
 
Vince's return was pretty underwhelming - and unless they deliver the Rock, the hyping of a guest host for 'Mania is probably going to be a letdown. Despite the new "no grave can keep my body down" Johnny Cash video basically giving away that it's 'Taker and not Sting, I'm excited because that was a really awesome use of the song that not only fit the stip that took him out, but also played into...whatever year they used the song for HBK-Taker. Mason Ryan's torture rack stretch muffler ruled and it was stupid to have Santino dominate Alberto... kinda boring show at times, but Punk ruled.

Screens -







SOMEBODY BETTA BUY SOME ROGAINE!














Quotes -
Cole - IT’S BEEN NEARLY A YEAR SINCE WE’VE SEEN THE CHAIRMAN OF THE WWE!
Vince - Now that the Super Bowl’s over - there’s only one thing to say - congratulations. There’s only one even that has more grandeur than the Super Bowl - WRESTLEMANIA! Every year there’s something that separates every WrestleMania from the other, and I assure you that this WM will be the same. Next week, we will introduce the man who personifies that - not the Grammys, the World Cup, there’s only one man capable of pulling off that endeavor - the guest host of WrestleMania, next week. (Orton comes out)
Orton - CM PUNK! If you think that we are even after what I did last week, then you are more delusional than I thought. I’m only just getting started. This is gonna cost you a whole HELL of a lot more than just Husky Harris… (Punk comes out)
Punk - Excuse me, I have to sit down because I’m stymied that the Viper and I agree on something. You’re right, Randal, this isn’t over, and you wanna know why I cost you the title? I’m sure you’re curious - I’ll tell you, Randal, and the truth shall set you free. (clip airs from ‘08 of Orton punting Punk) THERE YOU HAVE IT, VIPER - now you know why I did what I did. YOU REALLY ARE THAT COLD-HEARTED INDIVIDUAL! You’re not concerned about the consequences - YOU DON’T CARE THAT I HAD TO FORFEIT MY TITLE BECAUSE I COULDN’T COMPETE. Well, I haven’t forgotten that night - I remember it like it was yesterday, and I’ve waited this long to get my revenge - I’m a patient boy. I wait and wait - the difference between my actions and yours is mine are defensible - I’m right AND YOU ARE WRONG! And as long as we’re on the same show and breath the same air, you’ll never be WWE Champion again! I’ve waited long enough to get my revenge - I’m going to eliminate you… RIGHT NOW! Now, as I was saying…(Nexus attacks Orton again)
Cole - CM Punkle came out…
Truth - GREEN BAY, WHAT’S UP!?
Cole - HEY, WE’RE IN WISCONSIN! NOT GREEN BAY, YOU FOOL. HELLO! They’re chanting MIL-WAU-KEE! MIL-WAU-KEE!
(after Ryan slams Truth into the rope numerous times)King - THIS COULD TEAR AN ACL or whatever.
Punk - YOU DIDN’T WIN THE MATCH! I got one thing to day…GOOD JOB. HURT PEOPLE! I DON’T CARE ABOUT WINS OR LOSSES. I WANT PEOPLE INJURED - NOT SO INJURED THAT THEY’LL BE REPLACED THOUGH. WE HURT PEOPLE!
Cole - Standing moonsault…YOU CAN’T DO THAT, CAN YOU!?
Nattie - Cole, YOU NEED TO SETTLE YOUR TEA KETTLE!
Cole - WHAT A NECKBREAKER BY EVE, you can’t do that either!
Cole - WHAT A CHAMPION - The Miz!
Miz - Last week, as I watched the Raw Rumble unfold, I only had one thought on my mind. JERRY, JERRY, JERRY, JERRY… King, I was pulling for you! I would like to ask you to step in this ring with me, because I have something to say and show you the respect you’ve earned. Alex, please exit the ring. I GIVE YOU, JERRY THE KING LAWLER. Do you have any idea why I was rooting for you?
King - Because I don’t wrestle much anymore and you think I’d be the easiest win for you?
Miz - NO, I’M THE MIZ AND I COULD’VE BEATEN ANYONE IN THE RAW RUMBLE. THAT’S WHY I’M THE WWE CHAMPION AND THEY’RE NOT. I feel we’re mirror images - in your prime, you had a reputation of having a big mouth, whether it was insulting Andy Kaufman on Letterman or insulting Bret Hart’s mom - THEY WOULD LISTEN. I’ve never admitted this, but in some way, I’ve patterned my career after yours. AND THEN IT HAPPENED - I BECAME A MODERN-DAY JERRY LAWLER. Now, everyone’s wondering what I’m gonna do next - I’M ON TALK SHOWS AND I’M THE WWE CHAMPION! SOMETHING YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE!
King - First of all, you say we’re mirror images. Well, I’d hate to look in the mirror and see myself with that haircut. You’re right - I’ve had a big mouth my entire career, but you see, we both have big mouths - BUT I BACK MINE UP! If you think you’ve become a modern day Jerry Lawler, YOU DON’T KNOW ME AS WELL AS YOU THINK YOU DO. You think you’ve patterned your career after me? WELL, I’M AN ORIGINAL!
Miz - AN ORIGINAL CHEAPSHOT ARTIST, and that’s why I like you! NOW THAT IS ALMOST A SUCKER PUNCH!
King - It’s funny you’d say that BECAUSE I THINK YOU’RE A SUCKER, MIZ. I THINK THAT THE WWE UNIVERSE ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND IN MILWAUKEE, I THINK THAT THEY THINK THAT YOU SUCK TOO! Hang on, Miz, lemme tell you something Not everything that comes out of your mouth is poop, manure, or compost - I’ve never been WWE Champion. And I’ve never competed at WrestleMania, but you or anyone else, has no idea what it would mean to me to be WWE Champion and to compete at WrestleMania. It’s been a lifelong dream of mine - and I’ve been in this business for 40 years. I’m not gonna let this opportunity pass me by - THAT’S WHY I’M GONNA BE WWE CHAMPION AND AFTER I WIN AT ELIMINATION CHAMBER AND THEY INTERVIEW ME - I’LL SAY I’M GOING TO WRESTLEMANIA!
Miz - That’s where you’re wrong - after the match in two weeks, the only thing the WWE Universe is going to hear is I’M THE MIZ AND I’M!
King - AWFUL! AWFUL! AWFUL!
Cole - AND I QUOTE! KING, KING AND BRYAN VERSUS MIZ AND DIBIASE NOW!
Riley - You look up nerd in the dictionary, and the first thing that pops up is Bryan Daniel.
Cole - His name is DANIEL BRYAN, but I know you’re flustered.
Riley - I don’t know if King got here in a plane or a time machine.
Riley - This is like Harry Carey coming back and thinking he can get a hit.
Cole - Harry Carey’s dead.
Riley - Well, so is King - he just doesn’t know it yet.
Riley - Just like Namath at Super Bowl III, I’m gonna make a guarantee…
Cole - HOW OLD ARE YOU!?
Riley - 29, but don’t tell anyone.
Cole - You’re referencing stuff from 50 years ago.
Riley - I know my history.
Sheamus - How long’s Mark Henry been here? TIRTEEEN YEARS!? HE’S DONE NOTHING. IF THE CHAMBER WAS A PIE-EATING CONTEST, MAYBE HE’D WIN. Can he even fit inside a pod?
Cole - Unlike you, King, ALBERTO DEL RIO’S GOING TO WRESTLEMANIA!
Alberto - MY NAME, MY NAME IS ALBERTO DELLLLLLLL RRRRRIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOO! But you already know that. What you may not know is that Santino Marella thinks he almost got me at the Rumble match. IT WAS MY DESTINY. IT WAS MY DESTINY TO WIN THE ROYAL RUMBLE, JUST LIKE IT’S MY DESTINY TO BECOME THE NEXT WORLD CHAMPION RIGHT THERE AT WRESTLEMANIA!
Santino - I’M NOT FINISHED WITCH YOU!
Cole - People texted me and told me YOU WERE SLEEPING ON A BENCH IN THE AIRPORT after your “big win” last week!
King - YOU EVER HAD A FLIGHT CANCELED ON YOU!?
Cole - Charter a private plane! I also heard you ate at Denny’s after it.
King - You get quite a discount there when you’re the number 1 contender.
Vickie - EXCUSE ME. I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY! Dolph’s so lucky - a future world champion…IN TWO WEEKS, MY BOYFRIEND WILL NOT BE ENTERING THE SD CHAMBER AS A CHALLENGER! HE WILL ENTER AS THE NEW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION…. EXCUSE ME!
Dolph - What are you doing out here, man!?
Cena - What am I doing out here? I’m putting a stop to this! This is more offensive than Christina Aguilera butchering the national anthem! I kid! I’m here with an apology from R-Truth, ya see, after the Packers won… I think he might’ve celebrated a little bit too long. He thinks he’s still in Green Bay, so I’m here to tell the world that WE’RE IN MILWAUKE, THE HOME OF BOB EUCKER, LAVERNE AND SHIRLEY, AND THE CENATION! The last time the 3 of us were in the ring together, it was awesome. Vickie… we had a sweet… sexay! Passionate makeout session. Dolph, you were there - you were cool with it.
Vickie - ENOUGH. THIS IS NOT…. EXCUSE ME! THIS IS NOT HOW YOU SHOW RESPECT TO THE OFFICIAL SMACKDOWN GM! IF WE DO NOT GET SOME RESPECT, WE’RE GONNA LEAVE! (crowd boos louder)
Cena - SO….
Vickie - EXCUSE ME!
Cena - Just make some noise and they’ll leave!
Vickie - IT’S ABOUT RESPECT!
Cena - These people have a great way to show respect - GO PAT GO!
Cena - Okay, they’re gone - THE NEXUS TONIGHT has handicapped everyone in the chamber. They beat Truth so badly that he can’t even remember the city he’s in. They’re doing this so CM PUNK CAN GO TO WRESTLEMANIA. They have a flaw in their plan - I’M STILL HERE! I’LL BEAT UP PUNK’S ELIMINATION CHAMBER, AND NEXUS’S AND YOU CAN BET YOUR ELIMINATION CHAMBER THAT I’LL GO TO WRESTLEMANIA!
King - Punk has cotton stuffed his nose because ORTON BROKE HIS NOSE!
 
[quote name='Chase']The WrestleMania guest host is said to be Justin Bieber. In today's world, that's a strong selection to perhaps draw buys to a, seemingly, weak WrestleMania card.[/QUOTE]

I heard that too but after Vince's speech tonight, I'm not convinced. He said someone who did stuff that no one has ever done before. I'm guessing he meant someone who's been in the WWE before so I'm hoping it's The Rock or maybe even the Macho Man.
 
[quote name='Chase']Yeah, that was incredible. :)

One of my friends actually changed his Facebook profile photo to a shot of it.[/QUOTE]

Rogers is on Letterman now and Letterman just put a spinner belt on his shoulder before the last commercial. Nice try, Dave.
 
I almost hope it IS Bieber because the crowd reaction would be glorious.

I figured it'll be Bob Barker, wasn't he supposedly going to be at Mania? Unless Rock wants to plug his upcoming movie or something. I did not watch the show tonight so I don't know if I missed some clue or something.

Of course, the best would be if 2-21-11 winds up being Justin Bieber.
 
[quote name='TheRock88']I heard that too but after Vince's speech tonight, I'm not convinced. He said someone who did stuff that no one has ever done before. I'm guessing he meant someone who's been in the WWE before so I'm hoping it's The Rock or maybe even the Macho Man.[/QUOTE]


The Rock would be a great choice. Macho Man would be a bit surreal, but also a great choice.

I'm watching the last Nitro, and it's subtitle is "Night of Champions." Does Vince McMahon know that he named one of his present-day PPVs, seemingly, after a WCW event?

I really wish WCW had survived. WCW always had better wrestling than the, then, WWF. Heck, WCW's matches are still better than the stuff on WWE TV. I'd take Super Calo versus Sick Boy, in the lower-card on Nitro, over most things WWE decides to air.

Edit: Letterman chose poorly, Neocisco. ;)

Edit 2: The WCW World Heavyweight championship belt still has my favorite design of any belt. The present, Roman warrior Unified tag straps look good, in my opinion. Other than the Spinner, which is horrendous, I actually am not a fan of the WWE vision of the U.S. title. I just think the vibrant colors detract from the belt's prestige.

http://wrestlingsuperstore.com/wcwheavyweightbeltbuckle.aspx

Totally gonna get that. :)
 
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God, Cole was fucking awful during the Ron "The Zookeepah" Killings match. He's not even doing the heel schtick justice anymore, now he's just yelling for the sake of yelling.
 
http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/TNA/article10016643.shtml
Kurt Angle posted a tweet on Monday that seemed to indicate that TNA could be getting in the movie business. "My production company is talking to TNA to make TNA Films," Angle wrote. "It feels like a wonderful bond between TNA and NS Productions. Great movies." To read more from Angle, visit Twitter.com/AngleFoods1.

Angle has made several straight to DVD flicks for North Shore Pictures, which is based in his hometown of Pittsburgh. Angle's manager Dave Hawk is listed as an assistant producer on the company website.
Click to expand...
"TNA Films." Really?
 
[quote name='TheRock88']I heard that too but after Vince's speech tonight, I'm not convinced. He said someone who did stuff that no one has ever done before. I'm guessing he meant someone who's been in the WWE before so I'm hoping it's The Rock or maybe even the Macho Man.[/QUOTE]

Vince McMahon is a promoter.
 
I've been enjoying Raw a lot more lately, but this one was more miss than hit.

Vince seemed... well, totally uncomfortable in front of the crowd. He lost his place, he stuttered a bit, he really had no energy. It was a little bizarre, to say the least. It also seemed like a waste, since they didn't really respond to any storylines from before he left. Also, if you're in an area where their team just won the Super Bowl the night before, it's probably not a good idea to lead off by telling them that WrestleMania is more prestigious than the Super Bowl. Poor timing, really.

R-Truth screwed up. I love the people that said it was planned. He was booked for a complete babyface demolition, so why would they do something like that to turn the crowd against him? That segment lost some impact because that crowd, at least for the first minutes, seemed behind Truth getting his ass kicked. Cole standing up and egging them on was great.

Cole. I think they've finally turned a corner with him, and I'm glad. He was straddling the line between heel and face in a way that didn't work (i.e., he'd cheer Miz, but he'd also act like best buddies with Cena), and he seemed to be in full-on heel mode last night. If they want this to work, he needs to style it after Heenan and promote the heels no matter what. No cheering for faces, no being friends with Cena. It's a big part of why Heenan was great, and it was also partially why the Attitude era worked. Lawler was a full-on heel, and Ross was the face. They've flipped that now, but it can work.

So, right after the segment with McMahon where they completely ignored storylines, they follow up with a segment that's based on a near 3 year old incident? Awesome.

Since it felt like they just had Orton and Cena switch opponents, I'm glad they gave the Punk/Orton feud some background. My biggest problem is, though... ok, so outside of the fact that Punk is heel and Orton isn't, how exactly is Orton the good guy here? Storyline-wise, Punk is actually in the right, which makes the entire thing bizarre. Oh, well, I guess if we can forgive Orton for SEXUALLY ASSAULTING Stephanie McMahon, the crowd can let this go, too.

As stupid as it sounds, the blood added so much to that Punk/Orton segment.

I understand that Mania is a big time for faces to go over, but I sincerely hope someone in the back realizes that Punk is carrying the entire company on his back right now.

I actually stopped watching at 10:30 and just flipped to The Soup. I came back just in time to see Cena get completely demolished by Punk's entire arsenal, and then no-sell like a dick immediatly afterwards. That really pissed me off. It's nothing new, yeah, but still.

Weird thought: could they be building to Lawler/DiBiase at Mania? King obviously isn't winning the title, Miz will be busy with Cena, and DiBiase is the only one that King has been interacting with outside of Miz/Riley. Riley could work, but that seems sort of low-level for Lawler's first WM match. Yes, I'm aware I just said that DiBiase would be better. That hurt.

I will never be able to take Hennig seriously after that final NXT promo.
 
I'm in the middle of watching last night's RAW, and I have a question...Is it bad that I got a little upset when I thought Alex Riley wasn't coming out with The Miz? Was it even worse that I got excited when he DID come out?
 
[quote name='ShinSolidus']I'm in the middle of watching last night's RAW, and I have a question...Is it bad that I got a little upset when I thought Alex Riley wasn't coming out with The Miz? Was it even worse that I got excited when he DID come out?[/QUOTE]

Not at all. Alex Riley is a great hype man for Miz.
 
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