The "RAW sucks" and "Angelina Love is an illegal immigrant" wrestling thread.

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I guess I should have done The Beatuiful People Thread after all. Since Angelina is gone (one of my favorite female wrestlers), here is a nice parting pic...

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I've been a fan of hers ever since I saw her in TNA. She's definitely the more skilled of The Beautiful People and I like the snotty attitude she has. She'll probably be back when the Visa crap is worked out, but if not, oh well.​

Since RAW has nothing to do with actual wrestling anymore, I dedicate this thread to wrestlers in non-wrestling moments.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4N2iCsCK8

Mickie James on Jenny Jones.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLuXHupKn4s

Trish Stratus weatherlady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUMzmYobrtg

King Kong Bundy selling PCs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd3kBzEEcqc

Iron Sheik selling thumb wrestling crap.

Yeah, it's come down to this. I was actually going to post The Beautiful People, but I didn't feel like photoshopping them giving the brown paper bag treatment to the WWE Divas title.
 
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Nearly everything on the show that didn't involve Show carrying Jericho sucked in some way. The opening segment went on forever - I don't care how many times they referenced it going on for a long time, that didn't make it anymore tolerable. Miz-Santino was amusing thanks to Santino's thumbs down bit before the match, and the SKULL CRUSHING FINALE name for the full-nelson facebuster. The divas tag was enjoyable thanks to Mickie throwing awesome punches, upskirt shots of her, and Beth's tits looking enormous in her top.

The tag title match dragged on, and I'm not a big fan of Jerishow's reign ending to a makeshift team - but the Mayweather tie-in was great, and this is a way to give MVP a more prominent role on TV which he badly needs. Plus, the team element will help cover up for Mark Henry's shortcomings. Show carrying Jericho's limp body after the KO knuck punch ruled. Bourne-Chavo was set up nicely by the stupid boxing match, and what amazed me more than anything else was the crowd popping huge for Air Bourne despite it being done to a guy who's lost to a midget for months. The main event was fine - it didn't help or hurt Legacy, but did make Orton look weak since he was pinned by Vince. Sure, Cena was involved, but it still seemed stupid to do that a day after Orton had to do everything possible to retain the title.

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Quotes -
Cole - SUMMERSLAM WAS AN AMAZING, AMAZING EVENT!
Vince - Tonight’s guest host…one of the greatest showmen of all time! FLOYD MONAYYYY MAYWEATHER! Floyd’s gonna have a nice reception - there’s no question that last night’s WWE Championship match was marred in controversy, but the referee’s decision is final. Randy is your WWE Champion. It’s time to clear up that controversy - Cena will have a chance to do that in a rematch against Mr. Orton, in 3 weeks on a PPV…never can tell what’ll happen here tonight…THE WWE INTRODUCES A NEW CONCEPT - BREAKING POINT! In which, the main events will be submission matches! Cena-Orton could be the ultimate submission match - something known as I Quit. Either man must say those words. By the way, if anyone interferes on behalf of Orton, he will be stripped of the championship! Thank you very much and enjoy the show! (DX comes out)
Cole - The chairman doesn’t look too pleased.
King - I think he’s trying to hide his excitement.
Vince - You guys have a good night…
HHH - We need you for a sec… You were probably expecting us here on a tank, but ya gotta understand that Avis is charging an arm and a leg on the drop fee, so we couldn’t bring it to Vegas. I don’t like “good guy” Vince McMahon. Nice, honest,caring…it’s creepy! It’s not right. It’s like Vick at a PETA convetion.
HBK - It is odd. You being odd is like…BARK BARK!
HHH - There’s gotta be a reason he’s in a good mood.
HBK - Wait…I go tit… TODAY’S AUGUST 24TH, isn’t it… I THINK SOMEBODY’S GOT A BIRTHDAY!
HHH - Hang on, I was reading the paper…DAVE CHAPELLE!?
HBK - No, you gotta think whiter and crazier.
HHH - MARLEE MATLIN.
HBK - Older and more incoherent.
HHH - Old…crazy…incoherent…who do we know that’s all of those things… THAT’S IT! IT’S VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON’S 84TH BIRTHDAY! (fans chant 84) Hold on, I’m sorry…it’s Vince’s 74th birthday! (Vince rolls eyes, crowd chants 74) I feel terrible. My mistake. He’s actually 70.
Vince - I’M 64!
HHH - OH MY GOD!
HBK - YOU TOLD EVERYONE HOW OLD YOU ARE!
Vince - Just leave. Please.
HHH - Vince. Honestly. Why would we leave? At your advanced age, how many more birthdays do you have left - especially here in Vegas.
HBK - No…if you don’t wanna have a happy birthday. I’m gonna respect that. You and I have had a lot of differences, hmm? If you want a happy birthday - kudos to you! He’s a pioneer!
HHH - He was - with the wagon train.
HBK - No - this man is a genius! This genius is the reason we watch WWE TV! And if you wanna have a happy birthday, I can understand that, but I hope you let me show you this tribute.
Vince - I’m not gonna forget about this.
HHH - At your age, you probably will. But you won’t forget this…
Vince - What?
HHH - THIS! (a giant cake comes out)
HHH - Anybody can have a cake. That’s nothing, but in Vegas, things are done differently…Right Shawn…
HBK - What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
HHH - And no matter what, even if you send out memos that you can’t celebrate your b-day on live TV, people just do things.
HBK - I got pulled into this, by the way. But we never did follow rules much. YOU CAN’T HAVE VEGAS WITHOUT SHOWGIRLS!
Vince - How long is this gonna go on?
HHH - Hold on - Vegas is also showgirls, but it’s also…
HBK - CIRQUE D’ SOULIEE! (high jumpers on stilts come out)
Vince - Those masks are really gay. It’s what every man wants on his birthday!
(at 9:20) Vince - Are we done?
HBK - You can’t have a birthday in Vegas without the king of rock and roll…ELVIS!
Vince - That’a the skinniest Elvis I’ve ever seen!
Elvis - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO VINCE…
Vince - ENOUGH OF THAT! Thank you very much.
HHH - I think you should look at your cake - it’s not ordinary cake, if ya catch my drift…
Cole - IT’S BIG DICK JOHNSON!
Vince - I’ve had enough of this birthday crap!
HHH - There’s just one more thing…it’s private.
HBK - I just want you to know that I had NOTHING to do with this. (Vince checks his watch)
HHH - It’s your show - what do you care? Close your eyes - it’s a family thing. Shawn and I pooled our money and got you this…
HBK - Just stand…right there… (Legacy attacks0
HHH - I guess you Legacy girls didn’t get enough last night. Since Mayweather isn’t here yet - I’M GONNA MAKE A MATCH! Tonight, it’s gonna be Legacy - the three of you, against DX! AND OUR PARTNER - VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON!
Vince - AND THE MATCH IS NO DQ! I’ve always wanted to do this… AND IF YOU’RE NOT DOWN WITH THAT, WE’VE GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA…
(after beating Santino with the Skull Crushing Finale)Miz - That is me getting one step closer to defeating Kofi and becoming the NEW UNITED STATES CHAMPION! BECAUSE I’M THE MIZ, AND I’M AWESOME!
Cole - Is she the most powerful diva you’ve ever seen?
King - Hmm?
Cole - Beth…
King - Oh yes.
Jericho - You were introduced as the greatest fighter in the world - I disagree. I think you’re a great self-promoter and showboater, but as a boxer, I don’t think you’re very good. In your big comeback fight on Sept. 19, I think Marquez is gonna knock you out!
Show - After he cleans your clock, maybe Jerich and I will take what’s left of you and wipe you from the face of the planet! How about that!?
MVP - I don’t appreciate you talking to my man like that - he’s made me a lot of money over the years! Actually, well, you guys are the unified tag team champions, but you’re not that intelligent. Show, you’re a big scary dummy, and Jericho, you look at your dictionary each week, but Mayweather would hit you 32 times before you said a word!
Jericho - HE KNOCKED OUT SHOW WITH 18 OF HIS FRIENDS’ HELP!
MVP - Show could have done the same if he had friends!
Jericho - HE’S MY FRIEND!
MVP - SHUT UP! I DON’T WANNA HEAR IT! THE WWE UNIVERSE DOESN’T WANNA HEAR IT!
King - DX IS WONE OF THE REASONS THAT RAW IS THE MOST WATCHED SHOW ON CABLE!
Cole - DX is one of my favorites - despite all the wedgies and stuff.
Cole - VINTAGE MICHAELS! ELBOW TO THE CHEST!
Cole - THIS IS A NO DQ MATCH!
King - YOU’RE RIGHT - I HAVEN’T EVEN THOUGT ABOUT THAT!
 
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I haven't posted in one of the wrestling threads in a long time, mostly because I've just been using CAG to lurk, but man, I just had to say- this thread's title is 100% truth.
 
[quote name='pacifickarma']Mickie did look pretty good in that match, though...[/QUOTE]
as did beth... and kelly
 
[quote name='Tybalt Flux']I haven't posted in one of the wrestling threads in a long time, mostly because I've just been using CAG to lurk, but man, I just had to say- this thread's title is 100% truth.[/QUOTE]

Yep.

I watched most of Raw. I was flipping to Star Trek TNG on Syfy quite a bit though. When the best thing in a show is new theme music for the tag champs something is wrong. The good thing about it I guess is that Vince, HHH, and Stephanie can't blame the sucktitude on anyone but themselves.
 
This was one of those shows where you had a 95% chance of being embarrased if you switched it on with someone else in the room.

I was baffled by the fact that I flipped over, apologized to my girlfriend about how fucking stupid the opening was... and then had to do it again almost 20 minutes later.

Yeah, Vince, I can see you're really angry about not being able to create new stars, seeing as you bumped Kofi from Raw to suck yourself off on TV for a quarter of the the show. Birthdays are serious business.

(Sidenote: HBK, if this is what you're going to be doing, please go away again. We don't need you to encourage this shit. ;) )
 
Wow, glad I didn't bother with Raw.

For some reason I decided to catch Summerslam on a feed even though I haven't watched Raw or Smackdown in weeks, it wasn't bad, might just catch the occasional PPV from now on and miss the weekly crap.
 
[quote name='benjamouth']Wow, glad I didn't bother with Raw.

For some reason I decided to catch Summerslam on a feed even though I haven't watched Raw or Smackdown in weeks, it wasn't bad, might just catch the occasional PPV from now on and miss the weekly crap.[/QUOTE]

You should at least watch Smackdown. It has been on fire lately.
 
[quote name='neocisco']A more accurate title would be The "Raw sucks but everyone will still watch it next week anyway" thread.[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm the exception to this cause I may have watched a whole episode of RAW 4 times in the last 3 years. I just try to watch Smackdown, TNA, and more recently since its on Thursdays Superstars.

I realized a long time ago that when they took a fued that originated in OVW and till this day are using it in WWE a good 8 years later on Raw I know not to watch it. (If you know about Cena & Orton starting out against each other in OVW then you saw what is happening already just with worst mic work.)
 
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[quote name='guyver2077']http://www.wweshop.com/Product_deta...roductId=50-05299&cid=200907WCWDVDNWOTSPKG-05

very tempting.. as ive always wanted an nwo shirt.

Also why does bestbuy have two sku's for this[/QUOTE]

Not a terrible deal if you want to ::Scott Hall voice:: BUY THE SHIRT, but I was sort of disappointed with the documentary part of that set. The ECW one was more entertaining.

The match extras are pretty good, although there is (almost unavoidably at this point) a noteworthy amount of "already been released" matches.

And the Lost in Cleveland skits are worth seeing once for the "...??" factor.
 
RAW was totally abysmal last night. After that first half hour it mostly just served as background noise while I played Dragon Quest IV.

Smackdown can't get here soon enough.
 
Picture this: I was stuck in a night class lats night with a professor that can't speak English BUT insists on having her most important classes on monday nights....


....she lets us out early. It's 8:20...and I see crap on my TV. So, I take a shower.

I turn back and see Miz vs somebody. Eh....

Then it was like Mayweather on the mic. Doesn't make sense!!! HE CAN'T SPEAK ON THE MIC!!! HORRIBLE ACTING! He's the type of person that can perform great in real life, but would be a horrible actor in a movie

Then it was just a blur after that. I got lost in the bullshit.

....Next monday, I'm going to just ask my professor to keep talking until we get out at 9:30.
 
[quote name='BigHow']I believe the 2nd Best Buy SKU is for a two pack of THE RISE & FALL OF WCW and THE RISE & FALL OF ECW.[/QUOTE]

It is a 2 pack. I just picked it up today. It's amazing for only 22.99 and you get both sets. I love reliving the days of WCW back when wrestling was good. At least TNA is giving us wrestling television show.
 
Funny story. A friend of a friend got his Steam account stolen. He was talking to the buyer of the account today and it turns out to be none other than ex-wrestling threader Zen Davis.

Stay classy, Zen.
 
[quote name='neocisco']A more accurate title would be The "Raw sucks but everyone will still watch it next week anyway" thread.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. Until the NFL season starts anyway.


[quote name='rickshankshaw']Seriously guys. ROH is on an hour before Raw.

There IS another option.[/QUOTE]

I gave it a try the a week or so ago. Glad to see D'Lo is on my TV screen again. Other than seeing him though, I'd just as soon watch Captain Picard on Syfy.
 
I guess we all grew up in the Old School WWF/Attitude Era. So when McMahon decides to go back to PG, we get pissed off.

But heck, Vince can't please everyone. I would rather have the Attitude Era with all of the activists and censors getting pissed off than having PG Era with seeing Orton, Cena, and not naming the referee's name on a weekly basis.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']Funny story. A friend of a friend got his Steam account stolen. He was talking to the buyer of the account today and it turns out to be none other than ex-wrestling threader Zen Davis.

Stay classy, Zen.[/QUOTE]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Zen, if you're reading this, please don't retaliate by stealing shit from me.
 
[quote name='Halo05']:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Zen, if you're reading this, please don't retaliate by stealing shit from me.[/QUOTE]

Of course he is reading it. He's posted in this thread already.
 
So guys, I'm wondering, for someone like me who grew up with WCW in the 90s and the Monday Night Wars, is it worth getting Rise & Fall of WCW? Or are my memories going to be horribly tainted?
 
Anyone have any free shipping codes for the WWE shop site? I want to buy two items and shipping is like 8 bucks.
 
[quote name='BigHow']I believe the 2nd Best Buy SKU is for a two pack of THE RISE & FALL OF WCW and THE RISE & FALL OF ECW.[/QUOTE]

thanks.. i already have ecw but good deal for everyone else.

fuck. i want to order at wwe shop for the shirt but it comes out to $32.xx for me. That blows when dvd only is 17.99 at bb
 
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[quote name='pitfallharry219']Of course he is reading it. He's posted in this thread already.[/QUOTE]

dun dun dun

EDIT: i dont really care long as im not stuck with those retarded ass ROH newswire posts taking up alot of goddamn space all the time
 
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Those regular ROH updates are the main reason I follow ROH now so I was glad to have them. I don't know what Zen did to piss everyone off but he always did right by me so I have no problem with him.
 
[quote name='neocisco']Those regular ROH updates are the main reason I follow ROH now so I was glad to have them. I don't know what Zen did to piss everyone off but he always did right by me so I have no problem with him.[/QUOTE]


I wouldn't have had issue if he had just spoiler tagged the mother fuckers, they just took up so much damn space.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']"It sucked." -neocisco

;)[/QUOTE]


hahahahahahahaha, I had to ask his specific opinion because I'm about 99.8% sure he is the biggest anti-RAW mark in the thread. (Not said with hatred)
 
So yeah, that was an awesome little show there. The Goldust-Sheamus video package was the kind of thing they need to do more of - it made the feud seem like a big deal and only took up like 30 seconds of TV time. The opening deal with Regal and Christian was awesome - completely due to Regal. Christian's promo style is really grating, and there's basically no depth to his character at all. Thank God for Regal, who is just unbelievably great at everything he does.

The Birchills interview was just awesome. Paul was great as the straight man in this pointing out things, while Katie as the possible lesbian/vamp just ruled.

Sheamus vs. Goldust was yet another fine installment in their rivalry. These two just have perfect chemistry together, and Goldust throws easily the best punches in the company right now. I loved the ending - THIS FEUD MUST CONTINUE~! and the double count out had some intensity to it that these kinds of finishes rarely have. Between this and the Knox thing, it's become a good way to get guys over with the crowd, and the outside the ring Thesz press was something I don't recall seeing Goldust ever do - ditto with the Flatliner, which was surprisingly actually called that by Striker.

The Shelton/Ryder vs. Tatsu/Reks was fine. I loved the buzzsaw kick finish, Josh mentioning that Ryder is THE MAN WITH 5,000 FRIENDS ON WWE UNIVERSE!, and the pre-match deal with Shelton singing to the Bellas and revealing that he's got a great singing voice.

Regal-Christian was about what I expected since they built it up as being a PPV preview match. It wasn't so long as to negate the effectiveness of the PPV match, but was long enough to show that A. their Summerslam match was bullshit, and B. these two have the great in-ring chemistry that folks expected them to have. Christian sold the knee trembler better than most - only Dreamer sold it better in '02 when he got smashed with it. It's a shame the move didn't get over more over time - especially since how feared the punt has gotten, and this is the same kind of move.

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Striker - IT’S THE INTERNATIONAL TRIUMVERANT OF DOOM - REGAL, KOZLOV, AND JACKSON!
Regal - You’re looking at the reason why ECW as you know it will never be the same again. For weeks, Kozlov and Jackson were playing a game of one-upsmanship that you people anticipated would lead them on a collision course. (fans chant you suck) But that doesn’t surprise me - because you people lack the creativity, the imagination, and the influence that I possess to shock the entire world and unite these two incredible physical specimens! Now Christian, dear dear dear me, I hope you’re listening - the countdown clock on your reign is about at zero - the time for a new champion is now! (Christian comes out)
Christian - Actually, the only thing reaching zero is the amount of people ewatching this show if you keep talking. Now for all your talk, you left out the part where I’ve already beaten you in an ECW Championship match. It was a Summerslam record-breaking 8 second match! I SAID 8 SECONDS!
Regal - Yes, but I wasn’t ready. Where’s the sportsmanship. NO, NO, NO, NO!
Christian - 8 SECONDS! 8 SECONDS!
Regal - LISTEN, SUNSHINE! YOU CAN EITHER GIVE ME THE RIGHTFUL REMATCH OR WE CAN MAKE YOU REGRET THE DAY YOU EVER WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP!
Christian - Look, Bill, mind if I call you that?
Regal - Yes, I do mind.
Christian - Okay Bill.
Regal - LOOK - DON’T CALL ME BILL! Bill is a name for commoners - I am not one. You may call me William.
Christian - Whatever, Bill. I’ve beaten you and I’d like to move onto other challengers - that I haven’t beaten in 8 seconds… (Tiffany comes out)
Tiffany - ENOUGH TALKING - IT’S TIME FOR ACTION! Christian, you took advantage of Regal before he was ready. But William, if you’d like another chance, you’ll have to earn it. You’ll face Christian - if you win, you’ll receive your opportunity, if you don’t, you won’t. That match is tonight. Good luck to you both.
Striker - The curse of the angry Irishman has sent us over the hills of the damned!
Striker - It says a lot for the dossier of Sheamus that he’s beaten Goldust - a former hardcore and IC champion. The dossier is endless! I love that word!
(after Goldust hits the Flatliner)Striker - FLATLINER!
Striker - You Gotta Move is the official Summertheme slam…Summerslam theme!
Striker - Last week was Hurricane Debut Issue #1!
Courtney - Paul, you have a match on Superstars against Hurricane…
Birchill - Look, Katie, a new backstage interviewer. Are you gonna follow your predecessor and dress like Wonder Woman?
Katie - I think she might look cute in a Wonder Woman outfit…
Mathews - Everyone is talking about the man with over 5,000 friends on WWE Universe - ZACK RYDER!
Striker - Zack and Shelton will learn to co-exist. I have had partners I don’t like (joshmathews), I learned to deal with it.
Striker - ZACK RYDER TOOK HIS EYE OFF THE BALL AND GOT KICKED IN THE DOME! That’s the head.

An awesome story about Goldberg in the newest Observer -
Bill Goldberg, 42, appearing this past week as a celebrity at the Jimmy V Celebrity Golf Classic, which benefits cancer research (Goldberg goes every year), when asked about coming back to pro wrestling, said, not “in a million years,” but then did say he would be open to wrestling in Japan. He just finished filming another season of “Bull Run.” While not wanting it publicized, Goldberg was bowing out of activities over the weekend to visit with children with cancer at the hospital they were benefitting as opposed to attending the festivities associated with the tournament. Jacob Kidd, who played with Goldberg, noted that he couldn’t want to get off the golf course after he played. He was asked if he wanted to shower and change clothes, and he said he didn’t want to miss a minute where he could be spending time with the kids.

And an awesome line -
Cody Deaner isn’t exactly Tony Randall.

I think that’s what makes TV comedies work and wrestling comedy fail more often than not is they have people who are trained at knowing how to deliver a line, and wrestling has people who are trained in headlock takeovers, who then never use those moves, but read scripted jokes.

It’s lucky that both Stacker 2 these days is under the radar, and TNA is way under the radar because I don’t know that too many energy drinks would want a guy arrested for GH as their national spokesperson.

Here is a scary stat that you won’t be seeing in a “Did You know” segment. UFC 100 in North America looks to have done slightly more buys than the combined total of all seven WWE PPV show of the first six months of the year combined, which includes both Mania and Rumble.

Ted DiBiase Jr.’s quote this week is that the days of wrestlers partying late nights and the days of groupies are over, as “We’d rather go back to our hotels and play Nintendo.” The reason I find that line funny is the first time I was given almost that exact line (minus the Nintendo) was 1987 by Pat Patterson, about how the days of guys going out for a six pack and to get laid after the show are over, and then less than a half hour later, bumped into one of the top guys whose first two questions were about where he could go in San Francisco late at night to score coke and where he could go to get laid.

Before this was over, we had Vegas showgirls dancing, some Circus de Soleil guys, an Elvis impersonator who Vince remarked was too skinny, and finally the return of Big Dick Johnson squiring baby oil while wearing a thong that was far too small. He’s gotten fatter since his last appearance.
I suppose if he'd worn a large thong, it wouldn't have been so bad.
 
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I received disc 1 of Necro Butcher's DVD from Blockbuster Online today.

Disc 1 has an hour long shoot with Necro and than these matches

VS. Mean Mitch Page
VS. Ian Rotten
VS. Mad Man Pondo
VS. JC Bailey
VS. "Mr. Insanity" Toby Klien
VS. Corp Robinson VS. Brandon Prophet
VS. Tank

That's right, they don't say where the matches are from...only who Necro's opponent is. Also in between each match this shitty graphic pops up with the DVD cover on it.

Quality is pretty good but I imagine the best matches are on disc 2 since it seems to be in chronological order.

Also it's weird seeing Necro early in his career in crow style face paint and black hair.
 
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