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Welcome to the Steam Deal Thread V2! You can find the V1 thread (2010-July 2011) here. Read post #2 of this thread for Steam FAQs and more.

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All retail Valve games and a number of third-party games can be registered to your Steam account. All of the following games can be registered through Steam:
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  • AI War CD Keys in various formats
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  • Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is not accepted on Steam
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  • Note: The number 2 and letter Z may look very similar.
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  • Note: Keys purchased directly from the Global Agenda website cannot be registered on Steam.
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  • Note: Please input all O's and 0's as Q's for Just Cause 2
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  • Note: R.U.S.E. keys from Ubisoft's Digital River service are not accepted on Steam
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  • Torchlight CD Keys in this format: 1ABC-D3FG-4567-JK8L
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  • Unreal Tournament 3 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2-3FGH-456I-K8LM
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Opposing Force CD-keys cannot be registered through Steam. Opposing Force was included in a retail Half-Life package. The Half-Life CD-key included in the package will unlock all of the games in that package, including Opposing Force.
Note: Only the retail games listed above can be registered through Steam. No other retail games can be registered and downloaded using Steam.

Other Keys that can be redeemed on Steam (CAG tested & verified)
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[quote name='Jodou']Story annoys me; probably why I hated Braid. Limbo keeps the puzzles fresh and clever (at least so far) so it's at least engaging.[/QUOTE]

*did not feel that way* But again I hate environmental puzzles with a passion soooo
 
[quote name='pROvIs']https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-wusf-3601

Usually it means that anywhere you buy them they activate on steam. There are a few games though that are exceptions to this rule and have specific versions for other digital distributors like FEAR 2.[/QUOTE]
When for example it says "Darksiders keys in this format 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q" is there a way to know if they use that format at the non-Steam site you're buying it from? Specifying that only this format works makes me hesitant that if I bought it elsewhere it wouldn't be under the correct format. As I learned the other day it seems all Darksiders copies register on Steam, but I don't know about any other games.
 
[quote name='eastx']Defense Grid is getting an expansion!

Defense Grid: You Monster is the first full story expansion of the award-winning game and will be available for download from both Steam and Xbox LIVE Arcade on December 7, 2011.

GLaDOS, the menacing AI from Valve’s awesome Portal franchise, guest stars in this new 8-level Defense Grid expansion. Players will battle not only alien hordes, but the deviousness of GLaDOS as she tests the player’s skills and changes all of the rules. In addition to the 8 new maps, Defense Grid: You Monster features 35 challenge missions, many new achievements and over 15 hours of additional game play. Defense Grid: You Monster will be available for $4.99 or 400 Microsoft points and requires the original game to play.[/QUOTE]

Great news for me. I loved Defense Grid, it's one of those games I really had no expectations for and knew nothing about, and ended up sinking a ton of hours into it. I'll probably even buy the expansion for full price, although it will be tough with the holiday sale coming up.
 
[quote name='Hydro2Oxide']While I liked Defense Grid, and new content is always welcome, I can't say I'm all that excited about them piggy-backing on Valve. It seems a little... cheap?

Regardless, I'll wait until it inevitably goes on sale over the holiday. Thanks eastx.[/QUOTE]

They participated heavily in the Portal 2 ARG and are working with Valve on a version of CounterStrike. No surprise that they'd have a further tie-in.

Either way - I'm super-excited about it and will be buying it as soon as it is out, counter to my CAG sensibilities. Such is love.
 
Oh man Galactic Civilizations II is on steam now. :/ why does it have to release now with the Winter sale happening later this month. Must resist urge to buy XD
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I dont think its a bad game but I hate the shit out of it because its all about environmental puzzles. There is little real gameplay or story...its all how do I push this log or trap this time.[/QUOTE]
How is problem solving/puzzles not real gameplay?
 
[quote name='eastx']Defense Grid is getting an expansion!

GLaDOS, the menacing AI from Valve’s awesome Portal franchise, guest stars in this new 8-level Defense Grid expansion. Players will battle not only alien hordes, but the deviousness of GLaDOS as she tests the player’s skills and changes all of the rules. In addition to the 8 new maps, Defense Grid: You Monster features 35 challenge missions, many new achievements and over 15 hours of additional game play. Defense Grid: You Monster will be available for $4.99 or 400 Microsoft points and requires the original game to play.[/I][/QUOTE]

Oh, hell yes.
 
tempted to get the Dungeon Siege complete for 24$. i already have the game on ps3. but the bundle includes the DLC and Dungeon Siege 1 and 2 which are great games.
 
[quote name='Terlan']Oh man Galactic Civilizations II is on steam now. :/ why does it have to release now with the Winter sale happening later this month. Must resist urge to buy XD[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that is one of my favorite games. It is well worth $15 or whatever they are asking for it.
 
For Dungeon Siege III. As much as I wanted to like that game, I just found it very bland and generic. It's not that it's a bad game, it's decent but I can't help but thinking this game screams generic fantasy game and it pretty much turned me off.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']For Dungeon Siege III. As much as I wanted to like that game, I just found it very bland and generic. It's not that it's a bad game, it's decent but I can't help but thinking this game screams generic fantasy game and it pretty much turned me off.[/QUOTE]

I found this to be the case as well, but with a second player co-op(in my case, local couch co-op on the 360) the game was fun enough to play through as a pretty standard generic fantasy dungeon crawl. There's enough loot to make it fun, the story is a complete throwaway, but the game itself can be pretty challenging as well(I played it through twice, once on normal and once on harcore, switched characters up and they do play pretty differently.)

I'd say for the price on Steam with the old games included, it'd be worth it, especially if you have someone to play it with co op!
 
I know not many people liked DS3 but it looks amazing in 3D Vision. Cameras could use some work of course.

Also I wish they had DS1 and DS2 as DLC for those of us that have DS3 already. I really don't want to buy the game all over again to get DS1 and DS2.
 
I didnt see this posted in the last couple of pages but amazon has some of the total war games on sale today. Standouts are TW: Shogun 2 for $9.99,(should activate on steam) which is 5.00 cheaper than the previous sale. I cant see it getting much less than that during the winter sale.
 
[quote name='Daykain']I know not many people liked DS3 but it looks amazing in 3D Vision. Cameras could use some work of course.

Also I wish they had DS1 and DS2 as DLC for those of us that have DS3 already. I really don't want to buy the game all over again to get DS1 and DS2.[/QUOTE]

They should just let us buy DS1 and 2 separately. I dont even want DS3 at all. I dont care care that DS1 and DS2 dont have all their expansions included with online play. I would pay $5 for each easily.
 
[quote name='JakeNome']They should just let us buy DS1 and 2 separately. I dont even want DS3 at all. I dont care care that DS1 and DS2 dont have all their expansions included with online play. I would pay $5 for each easily.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I dont understand the concept behind selling them together but not separate. I would buy DS3 with it, but that game is optimized so horribly my PC wont run it...
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']For Dungeon Siege III. As much as I wanted to like that game, I just found it very bland and generic. It's not that it's a bad game, it's decent but I can't help but thinking this game screams generic fantasy game and it pretty much turned me off.[/QUOTE]

I thought that would be consistant with the rest of the series. I played the first game years ago, and I wouldn't have defined it as anything but generic. Fun, but generic.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']For Dungeon Siege III. As much as I wanted to like that game, I just found it very bland and generic. It's not that it's a bad game, it's decent but I can't help but thinking this game screams generic fantasy game and it pretty much turned me off.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='JakeNome']They should just let us buy DS1 and 2 separately. I dont even want DS3 at all. I dont care care that DS1 and DS2 dont have all their expansions included with online play. I would pay $5 for each easily.[/QUOTE]

I played the demo for DS3 a few months ago and I also thought it was just generic and dull. I've played worse but I've certainly played better. I also wish I could just buy DS1&2 separately. I already own DS2 on disk but I'd love to have it on Steam.
 
I am vaguely interested in DS3 but I'm getting a bit sick of the top down dungeon crawler and with Torchlight 2/Diablo 3 around the corner I don't think I would ever play it.

I'm also really tempted by TW: Shogun @ Amazon for $9.99 but I have been burnt with Napoleon and Empire. Must wait for a GOTY version with the DLC. Even on the last steam sale buying all the DLC for Empire and Napoleon was more expensive than buying the GOTY versions of both. I imagine it will be the same with Shogun.
 
Shogun is getting a little nuts with the DLC stuff. They have a Blood DLC now. It just adds blood and guts effects. That's it. It's cheap, but even so I don't love the idea of developers and publishers carving out basic features like that and then selling it to us seperately.
 
[quote name='Motoki']Shogun is getting a little nuts with the DLC stuff. They have a Blood DLC now. It just adds blood and guts effects. That's it. It's cheap, but even so I don't love the idea of developers and publishers carving out basic features like that and then selling it to us seperately.[/QUOTE]

Sigh... cant we all just agree to go back to expansion packs?
 
[quote name='Motoki']Shogun is getting a little nuts with the DLC stuff. They have a Blood DLC now. It just adds blood and guts effects. That's it. It's cheap, but even so I don't love the idea of developers and publishers carving out basic features like that and then selling it to us seperately.[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's unfathomably stupid. I think I'll avoid Shogun then.
 
[quote name='pROvIs']Sigh... cant we all just agree to go back to expansion packs?[/QUOTE]

Agreed, Although I remember back in the day complaining about expansion packs not being a sequel or being to small for the price... I guess i'm just never happy with the decsions most company's make.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']I can't wait for the day games come with separate DLC for kb/m and controller support (while shipping with neither one, of course).[/QUOTE]

Delete that comment right now before you give someone some ideas.
 
[quote name='NeoGutsman'] I've played worse but I've certainly played better. [/QUOTE]

This needs to become my new game-buying philosophy.

Example: X Game I've been curious about for a while is down to $15. Have I played better games of that type? Yes? Pass.
 
[quote name='Motoki']Shogun is getting a little nuts with the DLC stuff. They have a Blood DLC now. It just adds blood and guts effects. That's it. It's cheap, but even so I don't love the idea of developers and publishers carving out basic features like that and then selling it to us seperately.[/QUOTE]

One reason its dlc and not just something they patched into the game is it would change the games rating from Teen to Mature and would cause legal problems (plus they would have to correct the rating on all their boxed versions). Theres more reason but that's the real one. Not to mention fans were requesting it and it adds more stuff than just blood. It also has dismemberment, some new sound and effects and I believe new animations to go with it.

Also its not them carving out features, its something that wasn't in the game that fans requested and they made for it as a result.
 
[quote name='Terlan']One reason its dlc and not just something they patched into the game is it would change the games rating from Teen to Mature and would cause legal problems (plus they would have to correct the rating on all their boxed versions). Theres more reason but that's the real one. Not to mention fans were requesting it and it adds more stuff than just blood. It also has dismemberment, some new sound and effects and I believe new animations to go with it.

Also its not them carving out features, its something that wasn't in the game that fans requested and they made for it as a result.[/QUOTE]

If i'm not mistaken there never has been blood in Total War games so they definitely didn't remove it to add as dlc later. But I do understand what some people are saying about how bad some dlc is. Some is ok but others are just horrible.
 
[quote name='Terlan']One reason its dlc and not just something they patched into the game is it would change the games rating from Teen to Mature and would cause legal problems (plus they would have to correct the rating on all their boxed versions). Theres more reason but that's the real one. Not to mention fans were requesting it and it adds more stuff than just blood. It also has dismemberment, some new sound and effects and I believe new animations to go with it.

Also its not them carving out features, its something that wasn't in the game that fans requested and they made for it as a result.[/QUOTE]

Ah yes, dismemberment and sound effects. Now there's some quality extra content worth paying for. :roll:

If it's really the 'Oh poor us we really don't want to but have to charge for it otherwise it changes the rating and we get in trouble' bla bla excuse then let's see if they offer a discounts on the next DLC or expansion to those who bought this one.

And before some other apologist says it's too complicated or they can't do that, BS. It's been done with other games like getting a discount on Arkham City of you already own Arkham Assylum on Steam etc.

Whether it's a new feature added on request or a part of the base game carved out (and I still say that's debatable) it doesn't add any new significant content and it's something that really should COME WITH THE GAME. They even tout that you can turn it off. Now why the hell would you want to turn it off if you paid for it?

Also, why not add a campaign or otherwise some actual gameplay content with it, even if it was some half assed thrown together campaign it would be something.

No matter what anyone says, to me something like this is a basic part of the game and it's akin to charging for high res textures or 5.1 sound, or hell, even sound period.

Even Bethesda themselves admitted the horse armor DLC was rather silly but this is even worse! If anyone wants to go ahead and support this sort of thing I will be happy to tell you I told you so when every little feature that once cam standard becomes something you have to pay extra for.
 
Motoki, it would completely change the game's ESRB rating. If the series has always been rated T, it makes sense to keep it T but allow people the option of getting the M rated content somehow.
 
[quote name='Hydro2Oxide']Delete that comment right now before you give someone some ideas.[/QUOTE]

Too late, Craptivision has probably already seen it and is implementing it for the next Call of Duty game. At the low price of JUST $20, you can add keyboard/mouse and controller support!
 
I was tempted to get my husband Shogun 2 from Amazon as a Christmas present, but he told me he was kinda burned out on the Total War stuff for a while. Those games are biiiiig.
 
Jesus Christ, people. The blood pack costs less than 2 dollars and is completely cosmetic. You don't have to buy it. The same people who complain about it are probably the same people who are all about TF2 hats.
 
[quote name='Vegan']Jesus Christ, people. The blood pack costs less than 2 dollars and is completely cosmetic. You don't have to buy it. The same people who complain about it are probably the same people who are all about TF2 hats.[/QUOTE]

You could have just told him to take his legitimate complaint and shove it.
 
[quote name='Vegan']Jesus Christ, people. The blood pack costs less than 2 dollars and is completely cosmetic. You don't have to buy it. The same people who complain about it are probably the same people who are all about TF2 hats.[/QUOTE]

What else can you be all about when playing a hat simulator?
 
[quote name='Vegan']Jesus Christ, people. The blood pack costs less than 2 dollars and is completely cosmetic. You don't have to buy it. The same people who complain about it are probably the same people who are all about TF2 hats.[/QUOTE]

Damn it people, don't you all know that you have to check your opinions with him first? Doesn't anyone remember where it was voted that only Vegan was allowed to have an opinion and we all have to think like he does?
 
I almost bought Shogun 2 but then I realized that I just bought that Total War Mega Pack thing a week ago and should probably just play those first. By the time I play all of those Shogun 2 will be $2.50.
 
Motoki: I was going to respond to each of your points individually, but I realized that it's much quicker to just say that I disagree with all of your opinions and I find your facts to be irreparably faulty.
 
[quote name='hal']It's a reference to the first Oblivion DLC - horse armor. Just cosmetic horse armor. That's it.

It's become a synonymous with worthlessness, particularly in relation to games and/or game dlc.

Here's some fun reading material: http://www.gamesradar.com/oblivions...xplicable-we-call-it-basic-human-degradation/[/QUOTE]

You're close. It wasnt' cosmetic, it was real armor. Horses in Oblivion are expensive when you're starting out. They tend to die trying to defend you in combat if you don't have a heal-on-touch spell for your horse, and that takes a while to acquire.

Why it was A Big Deal (at the time) is that it was a) a blatant moneygrab by Bethesda and b) the first such blatant moneygrab. DLC was a relatively new concept in 2006, and micropayments may have existed in MMOs, but the idea of paying $2 for something that was obviously built into the base game, to be optionally unlocked at a later time, was considered rather vulgar.

tldr: It's not synonymous with "worthlessness", it's synonymous with "crassness".

However, despite all that, it was wildly successful. Bethesda rather much paved the way for the sorts of pre-order bonuses and equipment DLC packs that we see in many games today. Eff 'em!
 
[quote name='gcorlett']You're close. It wasnt' cosmetic, it was real armor. Horses in Oblivion are expensive when you're starting out. They tend to die trying to defend you in combat if you don't have a heal-on-touch spell for your horse, and that takes a while to acquire.

Why it was A Big Deal (at the time) is that it was a) a blatant moneygrab by Bethesda and b) the first such blatant moneygrab. DLC was a relatively new concept in 2006, and micropayments may have existed in MMOs, but the idea of paying $2 for something that was obviously built into the base game, to be optionally unlocked at a later time, was considered rather vulgar.

tldr: It's not synonymous with "worthlessness", it's synonymous with "crassness".

However, despite all that, it was wildly successful. Bethesda rather much paved the way for the sorts of pre-order bonuses and equipment DLC packs that we see in many games today. Eff 'em![/QUOTE]

wasnt it $5?
 
the 'just don't buy it' argument, while correct, also just completely misses the dang point. games used to be chock full of extras, secrets, and unlockables... for free. now, entire levels, characters, and in some cases worthless extras are sold to us - exactly what those of us who remember horse armor said would happen in 5 to 10 years.

now if all this were in addition to a full and complete game, that's one thing. but the concern is, and always has been, a move away from that. online passes being a perfect example (though i actually think online passes are a legitimate, though unfortunate, answer to used sales).

and whining about other people whining is about the most stupidly hypocritical activity on the internets.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I agree. I dont understand the concept behind selling them together but not separate. I would buy DS3 with it, but that game is optimized so horribly my PC wont run it...[/QUOTE]
What sucks is I got the game free with my GFX card so I couldn't buy the other two games in the complete pack. They should have a way to buy them separate, I mean sell each one for $10 or something. They will make money. I don't know how this has not crossed their minds yet.

Also This You may or may not have read the article but does this confirm HL3 or at least give us hope?
 
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