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Other Keys that can be redeemed on Steam (CAG tested & verified)
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The Ball (bought @D2D and tested by voken)
Supreme Commander Forged Alliance (gives both FA and original, bought @amazon and tested by vism)

Indie Bundles thread on Steam forums (link)


Past CAG Steam Deal Threads
 
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[quote name='Rirse']The Farming Simulator sale is now dead.[/QUOTE]

I knew it was most likely a price mistake, but I still couldn't see myself ever getting even $7.49 worth of enjoyment out of this. :p
 
[quote name='KaOTiK']The game gives you weapons but in no way does it ever force you to fight. Considering you can play through the entire game without killing anyone or being detected, yeah I think you missed something and just went straight ahead treating it like any other game that comes out nowadays.

If you have read and watch any stuff by the devs, they all pretty much say this game needs to be played as a stealth game, they give you the options to kill and play as action if you want too but that isn't the point of the game and you will miss out on a huge amount of what the game has to offer.

Sure you can do plenty in combat and upgrade stuff for it and that is needed because sometimes unless you are trying to do a 100% no kill/ghost run you will probably goof up and have to fight people, no reason the combat mechanics can not work well and have their own thing even if they are not the focus of the game. I'm half way done with the game and I've had to kill a handful of people as I goofed, I've probably killed around 20 people total for half the game so far. I avoid it as much as possible.

Sounds to me you went in thinking it is an action game and it isn't and you don't care for stealth which this is. So in your case, you wasted your money then.[/QUOTE]

OK, so what did you do in the very first scene? Just stand there?

Also, I don't think I should have to read and look into things to prepare myself on how to play a game. I knew this game was a stealth/action game going in. I didn't waste any money, it's a free rental :) And I still don't see the big deal here. To me it is Skyrim with slightly better combat. I'm pretty sure you could try to avoid killing people in Skyrim if you wanted too. Still don't see how calling it Skyrim with slightly better combat is an insult or me stating I dislike the game.


Also, I MISSED $6 FARM SIMULATOR :(
 
[quote name='KaOTiK']The game gives you weapons but in no way does it ever force you to fight. Considering you can play through the entire game without killing anyone or being detected, yeah I think you missed something and just went straight ahead treating it like any other game that comes out nowadays.
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Well... it is like any other game that comes out nowadays. There's a ton of crazy and imbalanced super powers that trivializes even a stealth based playthrough. And, as Fox mentions, there's pretty much nothing stopping you from playing it as a straight-on action game. That isn't playing the game incorrectly. It's a conscious design decision by Arkane (and Bethesderp). If they wanted it to be a pure stealth game or present a 'correct' way to play it they would have made it more like Thief where you can't really fight any enemy one-one-one let alone take on a whole room of them.
 
[quote name='Mooby']Well... it is like any other game that comes out nowadays. There's a ton of crazy and imbalanced super powers that trivializes even a stealth based playthrough. And, as Fox mentions, there's pretty much nothing stopping you from playing it as a straight-on action game. That isn't playing the game incorrectly. It's a conscious design decision by Arkane (and Bethesderp). If they wanted it to be a pure stealth game or present a 'correct' way to play it they would have made it more like Thief where you can't really fight any enemy one-one-one let alone take on a whole room of them.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, but they did. See I frequently get crushed if the guard can get an alert off, and I'm no slouch at FPS/Melee combat games. While it is possible, You really DO NOT want that too happen. So They took, IMO, the perfect approach. Allow players to do what they want, but make it rather hard either way.

As for OP powers, that's the point. The devs already said that was kinda the entire point, as it's meant to be fun, not multiplayer. More solo games could learn from that. ^_^ Fun != Hard all the time.
 
I can't really disagree with that since it's entirely subjective. Challenge is fun to me although I recognize there's a larger audience AAA publishers have to market to so, in a sense, I guess one has to create their own difficulty levels by simply ignoring/not using certain game play elements. Next they'll ask us to play with one hand tied behind our backs! Or... blindfolded for the ultimate Zen Master experience!
 
Meh, I'm going through Dishonored on hard with all waypoints/objectives off, exploring on my own and going full stealth. I haven't upgraded/learned any power yet, but have more than enough to do so. I find it most fun for me treating it like a full on stealth game.

I'm finding it pretty fun. Quite a few different ways to approach the level, which will make re-playability possible for me. Especially since there's a low chaos ending and a high chaos ending.
 
Damn, I would have bit on the Farming Simulator for $7.50 just for grins. Probably will pick up the Sherlock collection if the games are any good.
 
[quote name='Draekon']Meh, I'm going through Dishonored on hard with all waypoints/objectives off, exploring on my own and going full stealth. I haven't upgraded/learned any power yet, but have more than enough to do so. I find it most fun for me treating it like a full on stealth game.

I'm finding it pretty fun. Quite a few different ways to approach the level, which will make re-playability possible for me. Especially since there's a low chaos ending and a high chaos ending.[/QUOTE]

See, high chaos/low chaos endings just reinforces the fact the game should be enjoyable either way. I'm having fun so far, but it just feels like a tweaked version of Skyrim to me. Not necessarily a bad thing, but at the same time for me I wish the game had a distinct feel to me rather than feeling like the tweaked the other game, added a different theme and stealth elements, and shipped it out.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']OK, so what did you do in the very first scene? Just stand there?[/QUOTE]

You can just stand there and block incoming attacks. You actually can get through the scene that way (although it's kind of illogical).
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']OK, so what did you do in the very first scene? Just stand there?

Also, I don't think I should have to read and look into things to prepare myself on how to play a game. I knew this game was a stealth/action game going in. I didn't waste any money, it's a free rental :) And I still don't see the big deal here. To me it is Skyrim with slightly better combat. I'm pretty sure you could try to avoid killing people in Skyrim if you wanted too. Still don't see how calling it Skyrim with slightly better combat is an insult or me stating I dislike the game.


Also, I MISSED $6 FARM SIMULATOR :([/QUOTE]

What first scene are you talking about? The assassination? When you get out of your jail cell?
 
[quote name='KaOTiK']What first scene are you talking about? The assassination? When you get out of your jail cell?[/QUOTE]

SPOILER ALERT!!! Nah, just kiddin'. ;)
 
[quote name='DWulf']You can just stand there and block incoming attacks. You actually can get through the scene that way (although it's kind of illogical).[/QUOTE]

Didn't know that, but that is completely illogical. Also, a lot of the tutorial is for weapons/kills. I don't mind stealth, but I prefer logical stealth. Not illogical stealth for the sake of it.
 
I think this is all a matter more so of modern games have trained people nowadays doing so much hand holding and being so straight forward that when one comes out that really lets you go about your goal as you wish, most don't even realize they can do something other then what is immediately obvious and just do it as that is what we have become accustomed to in games now.
 
So, I played the Retro City Rampage demo on Vita earlier. I don't know why I thought this game would be good. Maybe I'm just burned out on the faux retro thing. It felt like a poor man's GTA: Chinatown Wars.
 
[quote name='KaOTiK']I think this is all a matter more so of modern games have trained people nowadays doing so much hand holding and being so straight forward that when one comes out that really lets you go about your goal as you wish, most don't even realize they can do something other then what is immediately obvious and just do it as that is what we have become accustomed to in games now.[/QUOTE]

I think this a poor excuse for game play that could be better. If there is only one "right" way to play a game then this "choice" of playing it however you want is just an illusion. We're not talking about a game that just drops you off with no clue on what to do. The game starts out specifically tutoring you on weapons and weapon use. So they do hold hands, but we're supposed to do the opposite of what they teach us? In fact, I felt the stealth was minimal in the tutorial. I think the game could have just been designed better to highlight the benefits/importance of stealth. As it is, it just feels like you are given a "choice" but not really.


[quote name='vince_carter']So, I played the Retro City Rampage demo on Vita earlier. I don't know why I thought this game would be good. Maybe I'm just burned out on the faux retro thing. It felt like a poor man's GTA: Chinatown Wars.[/QUOTE]


I loved Chinatown Wars, but these retro games seem awful. There is another one with like chickens and owls and shit taking place in miami that looks pretty bad.
 
[quote name='KaOTiK']Off topic, but I saw this at another forum I go to and I thought of you Fox.
Talk about a bad taxidermy
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Wow... lol... when I die, please just let me rest in peace :)
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']See, high chaos/low chaos endings just reinforces the fact the game should be enjoyable either way. I'm having fun so far, but it just feels like a tweaked version of Skyrim to me. Not necessarily a bad thing, but at the same time for me I wish the game had a distinct feel to me rather than feeling like the tweaked the other game, added a different theme and stealth elements, and shipped it out.[/QUOTE]
Skyrim's an open world RPG. The idea of level design barely exists in Skyrim. The same cannot be said about a game like Deus Ex, or Dishonored, where the different paths a player can take is one of the main draws. Have you just not played the game very long?
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']I think this a poor excuse for game play that could be better. If there is only one "right" way to play a game then this "choice" of playing it however you want is just an illusion. We're not talking about a game that just drops you off with no clue on what to do. The game starts out specifically tutoring you on weapons and weapon use. So they do hold hands, but we're supposed to do the opposite of what they teach us? In fact, I felt the stealth was minimal in the tutorial. I think the game could have just been designed better to highlight the benefits/importance of stealth. As it is, it just feels like you are given a "choice" but not really.


[/QUOTE]


They teach you how to use your skills/items/powers, it never tells you you have to use them. I know how to do a drop down assassination from the tutorial popping up when I was looking down on someone in the Jail level, yet I never have done the drop down assassination. Right after you get out of your cell and come to the guard with his back to you (if you even waited till they finished their conversation and broke apart from their group) was a tutorial on how to do a nonlethal takedown as well.

The game has to have some tutorials built into it because I doubt most of the people that play games today could even play the game otherwise (this is NOT a jab at you, but the general gamer nowadays and isn't directed to you whatsoever). It has to cater some to the masses, otherwise it probably wouldn't even be made unless it was crowdfunded. So yes, you are right there are things that they do, but also most wont even think to question if they can do something else besides kill because they are so use to how games are now.

This article actually hits on a lot of things despite its title.
http://www.vg247.com/2012/10/09/dishonored-too-short-youre-doing-it-wrong/
 
[quote name='Englando IV']Skyrim's an open world RPG. The idea of level design barely exists in Skyrim. The same cannot be said about a game like Deus Ex, or Dishonored, where the different paths a player can take is one of the main draws. Have you just not played the game very long?[/QUOTE]

I played it for a day and am playing it more today. I don't really feel Skyrim is truly "open world" because you can't truly play it however you want and progress any story lines.

[quote name='KaOTiK']They teach you how to use your skills/items/powers, it never tells you you have to use them. I know how to do a drop down assassination from the tutorial popping up when I was looking down on someone in the Jail level, yet I never have done the drop down assassination. Right after you get out of your cell and come to the guard with his back to you (if you even waited till they finished their conversation and broke apart from their group) was a tutorial on how to do a nonlethal takedown as well.

The game has to have some tutorials built into it because I doubt most of the people that play games today could even play the game otherwise (this is NOT a jab at you, but the general gamer nowadays and isn't directed to you whatsoever). It has to cater some to the masses, otherwise it probably wouldn't even be made unless it was crowdfunded. So yes, you are right there are things that they do, but also most wont even think to question if they can do something else besides kill because they are so use to how games are now.

This article actually hits on a lot of things despite its title.
http://www.vg247.com/2012/10/09/dishonored-too-short-youre-doing-it-wrong/[/QUOTE]


You know what, I get what you are saying now. I am programmed that if a game tells me "Press x to do y" I just naturally do what it tells me because I assumed it was the tutorial and that is what I was supposed to do. Especially when it presents in a scenario where doing said action would be beneficial. I must have missed the tutorial on a non-lethal take down doing all my killing. That said, I would consider this poor game design. I guess others can see it as "cool" and as allowing you freedom to do what you want. To me, it feels like the game sets you up for one thing and then you only really get the other option in a non-intuitive way. I don't necessarily want my hand held through out the game, but I would prefer a more clarity in the beginning as to the two basic options of gameplay one can pursue and the consequences of each so I can make a conscious decision on how to choose to play it.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']

You know what, I get what you are saying now. I am programmed that if a game tells me "Press x to do y" I just naturally do what it tells me because I assumed it was the tutorial and that is what I was supposed to do. Especially when it presents in a scenario where doing said action would be beneficial. I must have missed the tutorial on a non-lethal take down doing all my killing. That said, I would consider this poor game design. I guess others can see it as "cool" and as allowing you freedom to do what you want. To me, it feels like the game sets you up for one thing and then you only really get the other option in a non-intuitive way. I don't necessarily want my hand held through out the game, but I would prefer a more clarity in the beginning as to the two basic options of gameplay one can pursue and the consequences of each so I can make a conscious decision on how to choose to play it.[/QUOTE]

At least we are on the same page now :D

That nonlethal takedown tutorial shows up right when you go up to the first guard after getting out of your cell. The catch is (and I'll agree that it is poorly designed because obviously people can and will miss it as we found out with you) you have to wait for the guards to finish their conversation and break apart from their group. Then with the guard with his back to the door that leads to the area with the cells when you approach him crouched down the tutorial pops up for a nonlethal takedown.

Oddly enough, first thing I did when I got out of my cell was crouch to make less noise and stayed hidden waiting for the guards to separate so I could dispatch them easier, it didn't even occurred to me to just go and kill them right away LOL.

Talk about totally different mindsets we have on that hahha
 
Does anybody here own Blood Bowl Legendary Edition? Supposedly if you own that, you can buy Blood Bowl: Chaos Edition for $10. Blood Bowl: CE was just released today and has $30 price tag if you don't own Blood Bowl: LE.

So basically what I want to know is, if you own Blood Bowl: LE, does it let you buy Blood Bowl: CE for $10 even if you're buying it as a gift? If so, you could potentially hook other people up with Blood Bowl: CE for $10 instead of the $30 price.
 
[quote name='KaOTiK']At least we are on the same page now :D

That nonlethal takedown tutorial shows up right when you go up to the first guard after getting out of your cell. The catch is (and I'll agree that it is poorly designed because obviously people can and will miss it as we found out with you) you have to wait for the guards to finish their conversation and break apart from their group. Then with the guard with his back to the door that leads to the area with the cells when you approach him crouched down the tutorial pops up for a nonlethal takedown.

Oddly enough, first thing I did when I got out of my cell was crouch to make less noise and stayed hidden waiting for the guards to separate so I could dispatch them easier, it didn't even occurred to me to just go and kill them right away LOL.

Talk about totally different mindsets we have on that hahha[/QUOTE]


Yeah, I was thirsting for blood apparently because first thing I did was grab a knife and stabby stabby stabby. I also ended up with a gun somehow and shot a guard. So talk about opposite spectrum. I'll try a more gentlemanly approach from here on out to see how the game feels.
 
[quote name='The End']Does anybody here own Blood Bowl Legendary Edition? Supposedly if you own that, you can buy Blood Bowl: Chaos Edition for $10. Blood Bowl: CE was just released today and has $30 price tag if you don't own Blood Bowl: LE.

So basically what I want to know is, if you own Blood Bowl: LE, does it let you buy Blood Bowl: CE for $10 even if you're buying it as a gift? If so, you could potentially hook other people up with Blood Bowl: CE for $10 instead of the $30 price.[/QUOTE]

Yes and yes. Hit me up on steam.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Yeah, I was thirsting for blood apparently because first thing I did was grab a knife and stabby stabby stabby. I also ended up with a gun somehow and shot a guard. So talk about opposite spectrum. I'll try a more gentlemanly approach from here on out to see how the game feels.[/QUOTE]

You got the gun from the dead guard, they all have one pretty much :D
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Yes and yes. Hit me up on steam.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the offer, but frankly I was just asking out of curiosity. I'm not all that interested in the Blood Bowl games. Not even for $10.

Maybe somebody else might be interested though.
 
[quote name='The End']Thanks for the offer, but frankly I was just asking out of curiosity. I'm not all that interested in the Blood Bowl games. Not even for $10.

Maybe somebody else might be interested though.[/QUOTE]
If it makes more sense than "football", I may partake.

Handegg is clearly the most baffling, ridiculous, and rigged sport I've ever come across.
 
[quote name='Flowette']If it makes more sense than "football", I may partake.

Handegg is clearly the most baffling, ridiculous, and rigged sport I've ever come across.[/QUOTE]

Despite its appearance Blood Bowl isn't really a football game. It is a strategy tactics game (it is actually a table top game that is turn based and is quite good too). They do have a real time mode that I never played but heard so so things about that makes it seem to play more like football. But for the most part it is a turn base strategy game with football being what it revolves around. Each player has their own stats, position and the patch you move all matter as well. It is actually pretty deep game if you are willing to dig your teeth into it and it represents the table top version of the game rather well as well.
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Yeah, I was thirsting for blood apparently because first thing I did was grab a knife and stabby stabby stabby. I also ended up with a gun somehow and shot a guard. So talk about opposite spectrum. I'll try a more gentlemanly approach from here on out to see how the game feels.[/QUOTE]

It was the third "stabby" that made me LOL. Comedy really does come in 3's. :)
 
I just finished Dishonored and enjoyed it quite a bit. There were a few really annoying bugs and the execution of the story was lacking, but it was fun.

Normally I play games like this as total stealth. By the time I make my way through a level, everyone is sleeping and every security system is disabled. Dishonored may be the first game to give me the tools to play the way I did. I snuck around avoiding people, occasionally knocking them out, and running when caught. I used sleep darts only when guards were between me and where I wanted to be. I didn't feel compelled to constantly reload when things didn't go as planned as I do in other stealth games because I had a way out of any bungled situation.

One of my favorite strategies for acquiring a rune in a room full of guards was carefully and cautiously moving up to the room, incapacitating anyone watching the door, blinking in next to the object, grabbing it, and hauling ass out of there as fast as possible with a group of guards on my tail. In any other stealth game I'd have been dead for trying that.

That style got me through in about 10 hours. I fully expect to play through another two times. I assume a no kill or collect everything playthrough (I got probably 90%-95% of the upgrades) will take longer and a more aggressive high chaos game will take less time. I didn't find it to be anything like Skyrim except for a slight similarity in the sword combat, which I mostly stayed away from.
 
There's nothing I had more than reading the lecturing screeds of self-absorbed nitwits extolling how different Dishonored is from Call of Duty and NONE OF YOU GET IT.

It's like they live in a world where DX:HR, almost every sandbox game including every Elder Scrolls game, and the Bioshock games don't exist. And, so tragically, the one true game to break the mold just isn't understood (Heartache!) because the plebs are too stupid to understand it!

It's a good game, noteworthy for being one of the few stealth-heavy games that where combat isn't an utterly terrible situation to be in. Conviction was probably the other one I can think of but even then the joy there was disappearing in combat. Has a noteworthy enough power base to support any playthrough style you want and it's just fun no matter what you do.
 
[quote name='RollingSkull']There's nothing I had more than reading the lecturing screeds of self-absorbed nitwits extolling how different Dishonored is from Call of Duty and NONE OF YOU GET IT.

It's like they live in a world where DX:HR, almost every sandbox game including every Elder Scrolls game, and the Bioshock games don't exist. And, so tragically, the one true game to break the mold just isn't understood (Heartache!) because the plebs are too stupid to understand it!

It's a good game, noteworthy for being one of the few stealth-heavy games that where combat isn't an utterly terrible situation to be in. Conviction was probably the other one I can think of but even then the joy there was disappearing in combat.[/QUOTE]

Hey man, I don't know about you, but I had my Typhoon maxed in Deus EX:HR.

Combat was an utterly terrible situation for EVERYONE AROUND me when I resorted to that.

:)
 
[quote name='Terlan']Don't know if its been posted or mentioned or not but.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/11/creative-assemblys-viking-heading-for-steam/

Viking Battle for Asgard is supposed to be coming to steam next week and its supposed to be getting a graphical overhaul to boot.[/QUOTE]

I recently got this game and beat it. I have to say that this news is awesome. Although while I don't feel like a graphical overhaul is entirely necessary, yeah I said it, it would be nice for them to add in some variety in the late game. The game is extremely fun, but about half way through the second island it hits you that nothing will change for the rest of the game and indeed it doesn't.

That lack of variety is seriously my only gripe too. The graphics were fine with a mix of a Fable and a dark Fable look, which means it is like Fable but dark. The combat felt heavy with a lot of impact, meaning when you hit someone you heard a thud and it didn't feel like say World of Warcraft melee combat. The story was rubbish, but that didn't really bother me in anyway, which is odd. Performance only occasionally went down, but PC can certainly straighten that all out. Because while the game ran fine for about 98% those 2% were kind diminished in their awe since they were the huge battles with the ton of people on screen at once. I will say one last thing. I heart this game's load times. Starting it took about average length, but warping using the stones was nearly instant if not entirely instant.

Still quite fun and hopefully reasonably priced.
 
[quote name='asheskitty']
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Apparently none of you are familiar with the creative fun you can have with taxidermy.

More here. And here. Little DIY canvas.

So many people have weird hangups over dead things.[/QUOTE]

I want to say that there is a slight difference between the image you gave and the one previous. One is creative, like taking multiple creatures and making them one, and the other... well... lets just say it was horrible...
 
[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Yes and yes. Hit me up on steam.[/QUOTE]


Can I take you up on this offer? I really want to buy BB:CE. I can send the money via paypal.
 
[quote name='MysterD']I still do both SP and MP.


COD series and BF3 have a robust MP, for sure.
Personally - I prefer BF3 on the MP.

EDIT:
Though, I do like Kill Confirmed (Team DM Mode) in COD: MW3.[/QUOTE]
I do too and will, its just now I head straight to MP first. MW's training course was always awesome to get the 3 stars, same with the airplane scenario, love those challenges because I wouldn't give up, so stubborn lol.

I remember MoH & CoD's campaigns were the shit, I played them on GC at the time, that was my system baby. Played hella CoD2 Big Red haha.

[quote name='TheGhostrider']Me too. Haven't gotten to playing it yet. :roll:[/QUOTE]
Only played like an hour or two of it, taking the stealth option rather than guns blazing has been more fun than other stealth games, tho that's not saying much for me, I'm not big into them. Overall I like the feel and presentation of the game, but I wish I could have had it in this sale, damn. I remember during the Steam sale my friend was like told me to get it for sure lol. I mean I got it for 5.99 from GS rather than 7.49 from Steam, not a big difference but the Amazon deal is killer.

If anyone wants Quantum Conundrum or DeusExHR+DLC lmk.
 
[quote name='MC Kage']I do too and will, its just now I head straight to MP first. MW's training course was always awesome to get the 3 stars, same with the airplane scenario, love those challenges because I wouldn't give up, so stubborn lol.

I remember MoH & CoD's campaigns were the shit, I played them on GC at the time, that was my system baby. Played hella CoD2 Big Red haha.


Only played like an hour or two of it, taking the stealth option rather than guns blazing has been more fun than other stealth games, tho that's not saying much for me, I'm not big into them. Overall I like the feel and presentation of the game, but I wish I could have had it in this sale, damn. I remember during the Steam sale my friend was like told me to get it for sure lol. I mean I got it for 5.99 from GS rather than 7.49 from Steam, not a big difference but the Amazon deal is killer.

If anyone wants Quantum Conundrum or DeusExHR+DLC lmk.[/QUOTE]

Ill bite the Quantum+DX.
 
[quote name='M_F_A_H']
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Lmfao.

mnemnoch - Ok cool, PM me. That Blood Bowl game looks pretty fun too, what's the difference between CE & LE?

5 more days 'til 2K13 :drool:
 
Thanks FOX for the BB:CE!

@Kage

From what I heard theres an additional 3 races in CE. I dont know if theres an update in AI though.

Also sent you a pm for that amazon deal.
 
[quote name='MC Kage']I do too and will, its just now I head straight to MP first. MW's training course was always awesome to get the 3 stars, same with the airplane scenario, love those challenges because I wouldn't give up, so stubborn lol.

I remember MoH & CoD's campaigns were the shit, I played them on GC at the time, that was my system baby. Played hella CoD2 Big Red haha.
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I still think MoH was at its best on the SP back w/ MOH:AA.
The last MOH (2010) was short and sweet - though, nothing amazing & spectacular.

Spec Ops: The Line - now there's a shooter w/ an excellent SP campaign (which was like 7-8 hours short) and a great story. Just finished that last night.
 
I put some money in my Steam wallet because I fully expect to cave on the Sherlock collection and the Pendulo collection (didn't get it during the summer sale, kind of hated that I didn't).

Also, my retail copy of XCOM from Newegg was finally delivered tonight. I get to see what all the fuss is about, and I get to do it with probably totally unnecessary 'special edition' content to boot!
 
[quote name='MysterD']I still think MoH was at its best on the SP back w/ MOH:AA.
The last MOH (2010) was short and sweet - though, nothing amazing & spectacular.

Spec Ops: The Line - now there's a shooter w/ an excellent SP campaign (which was like 7-8 hours short) and a great story. Just finished that last night.[/QUOTE]

Damn.. took me like 3 hours.
 
[quote name='mrsilkunderwear']Damn.. took me like 3 hours.[/QUOTE]
I don't do speed runs.
I usually try to take my time w/ a game and try to soak it in.

And I was trying to find every single DATA COLLECTION Item that I could find and was searching everywhere for them.
I think I missed a few, though.
 
KOA:R must have the worst mouse driven camera I've ever seen, moving my mouse sideways causes the camera to drive upwards at a slant and get stuck there. At least it's perfectly playable with my controller. Combat with chakrams is excellent, even if these ones I have are extremely overpowered.
 
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