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Having just finished watching SmackDown, that shot JBL's hand took sandwiched in the steps looked brutal. You could definitely tell something was wrong with the way he 'oversold' it, and seeing him motion for help from the back after the match only confirmed it. Hopefully it's nothing too major, as Smackdown really needs a 3rd top heel (Orton and Henry being the other two, for now) and with the way Booker's been booked lately, I can't see him stepping up to fill that slot in the near future.
 
Am I the only one who wants to see HHH beat the living tar out of John Cena? I know H isnt well liked around here, but I think Cena was too soon.
 
Well, as far as HHH goes, I know hes married to the boss's daughter, but I say good for him. Lets stop the jealously and just come out and admit it :D
 
And for that he is set... face it.
HHH is never going to go away.
However, that being said... doesn't mean that he has to ALWAYS
be either the champ or fueding with the champ.

There was a time that I liked HHH but it didn't last too long.

If he was used in other ways I think he would get over better,
instead of always the same thing.
 
To be perfectly fair to HHH, he has been out of the title scene for a good long time, since the middle of the draft lottery. However, if he would pull his head out of his ass, he would have seen that Edge was really getting over as a top heel, and let him run with it for awhile.
 
[quote name='AdamInPlaidum']Edge was really getting over as a top heel, and let him run with it for awhile.[/QUOTE]

The treatment of Edge, ironically (or coincidentally instead; I've got a brutal High Life hangover today, so fuck you if I make grammatical errors) resembles what happened to Christian about this time last year. He was hot, he was a fresh new face that was getting over with crowds left and right, and, for the most part, the crowds always paid attention to these guys. It was clear that there was a fan movement that demanded these guys needed to move up higher than they were (just like there was a fan movement to get the belt off of Cena).

Christian suddenly became a good guy on Raw, belittling Cena (and getting cheers for it, before people developed ambivalence towards Cena) and seemingly moving into the upper card. He spent the year before in a solid feud with Chris Jericho and showed he was a very good, if not great, wrestler. It was time to give him a chance at the top.

Then he was traded to SmackDown!, never given a title shot, never given a major feud or storyline, and the WWE spent a lot of money building up a "talk show" set for him to see it used roughly 5 times; not to mention, talk show segments are so passe that it seems that all but the juniors have them, so getting a set and a segment isn't anything to be happy about.

Compare that with Edge, who became *the* guy to hate in 2005 as a result of Matt Hardy (funny how that one turned out, no?). That feud was totally hot (well, they fucked it up somehow, but the heat was there and the matches a lot of fun). Their cage match was excellent, and while Matt Hardy got *some* comeuppance, Edge totally won that angle; he took everything good from it, and Matt Hardy is just a bitch, upset because he's tag-teaming with motherfucking Chief Eats-Too-Much (or, alternately, Chief Too-Old-For-This-Shit) instead of feuding for the NWA world heavyweight championship. I don't think *anyone* can say Matt Hardy made the right choice in his career there. But this is about Edge.

So, Edge is hot off that feud, and he has a new,*ahem*, edge to his character; his interviews are top notch, full of fantastic barbs, and very, very believable. There's something about his promos that cut through the make-believe WWE world and tell you that Edge is for real. In a world of Boogeymen, midgets, mexicans on lawnmowers, Dicks, and BodyDonnas, Edge somehow convinces you that he is the real deal.

So he gets a run at the top, winning the title in the single most brilliant (that's not a compliment) booking decisions made by the WWE this year. Ratings go up, Edge as champ is awesome, and somehow Cena managed to parlay some of the crowd ambivalence toward him. All is well in the world of OZ.

Now Edge lost the title, HHH jumped in to stake his *yawn* claim at WrestleMania (it gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "WrestleMania Rewind"), and Edge is in a meaningless feud with Mick Foley. Now I love Foley, and I (kinda) look forward to his matches (I'd rather he set an example for others and actually retire); however, we now have *two* WrestleMania matches whose outcomes are only unknown to the dead and mentally handicapped. Wresting is often predictable, WrestleMania should *not* be. Hogan/Savage? Hogan/Andre? Hogan/Warrior? Rock/Austin (1, 2, or 3)? Brock/Angle? JBL/Cena? HHH/HBK/Benoit? Batista/HHH? That shit wasn't predictable. This shit is, and shit it truly is.

What benefit will Edge get from handily beating a middle-aged fat fuck whose main purpose currently is to be one of those inflatable punching clowns? Edge *had* his heat; he's lost it now, and beating a man who has lost at the past three WrestleManias (or did he not work WM21, and lost at Backlash? Ah fuck, I dunno)? Not a damn thing other than a paycheck. Edge lost his chance when they pulled the trigger on him and shut it right off, putting the title on that merchandise whore hip-hop cracker Cena.

I'd say that the popularity of Edge and Christian (their rising, denouement, and subsequent fall into the morass of sheer boredom and being kept out of the title scene) parallel each other to an uncanny extent. The only thing that differs is that Edge got a taste of the gold for about two weeks, wheras Christian came close to getting a match, but never did (and by the time he was Batista's punching bag on SD!, he wasn't a serious contender anyway).

End rant. I tivo'd SD!, didn't watch much of it at all, but I did watch one match: Psicosis versus Gregory Helms. If you can, go watch that match. It is exhibit A in the case against WWE regarding that Jim Cornette quote that several people cited (How can a company with so much talent, so much money and so much experience promoting wrestling and producing television consistently put out crap on tv every week?). It was a cruiserweight match without a *single* cruiserweight move. It was hold for hold the same kinda bullshit that Booker T and Benoit wrestle every week, that Matt Hardy and Captain Dipshit (or whomever he wrestles on a given week). It was not the cruiserweight division, it was the "smaller guys, same bullshit" division. TNA will truly fly right past WWE much faster than we can imagine if they keep putting matches like that on TV. It made me yearn for the technical excitement of Lance Hoyt, or some other dumb musclebound fuck.

Poor, poor Psicosis; how good you are, and how little we would know it thanks to the WWE.
 
[quote name='thesilentshadow30']I hadn't seen anything posted about this so I figured I would ask...

This past week I saw a XWF DVD at Wal-Mart.
I think it was called something like the lost tapes or something.
I have never seen the XWF and was wondering if it would be worth picking up?

I know it has a couple Hogan matches and some other guys that had left WWE sometime ago.[/QUOTE]

I was actually at the tapings and got a t-shirt (No More Prima Donnas :lol: ).

It was pretty decent (highlight had to be the crusierweight battle royal) but I had to leave before they taped Hogan (they must have taped 6+ hours of footage that day).
 
You know... Smackdown this past week was really boring.

I could care less about Matt Hardy / Tatanka fighting MNM (decent tag team, very shitty name, and Melina shrieking gives me a headache).

That Boogeyman match... why did Booker T not shut up the whole time? Something about a birth certificate, how Boogeyman dosen't have one, he started spouting gibberish I think because I sure as hell couldn't understand him... it was really obnoxious. Boogeyman's gimmick is getting old too.

Smackdown seems to be the gimmick show... mexicans on lawnmowers, a pirate, a worm eater, an indian, a british guy, a dead man. Some work, but the majority don't.

I turned the television off after that shitty cruiserweight match, where the crowd seemed completely dead.
 
This thread needs more of the whole f'n show, Rob Van Dam:

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I tried to watch Smackdown this week but I could only stand to watch a bit.
It was mostly boring. And yea that Boogeyman match was a waste of time.
Not only was the match a waste but damn... can't Booker T ever shut the hell up.
He may be decent in the ring but put him near a mic and god is he annoying.

On a side note... I was out looking for something to watch today and I picked up TNA Bound For Glory on DVD. I decided on that over the XWF DVD... at least for now. I have only watched a bit of it and it looks like it should be pretty good.
I haven't watched any TNA for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time but I figured why not check it out.
 
Reminder to CAG that TNA Impact is on in 30 minutes on Spike TV. Should be a good one tonight with the NWA World Title match in the main event plus the hyped up Sting footage. Too bad we dropped the whole XBox Live wrestling chats... would be fun to do that one of these days again (complete with me screaming "TOUCHDOWN" during a backstage skit lol).
 
I normally am not around to watch Impact, but after 8 pints of High Life last night, I'm in no mood to leave the house. If I can stop cursing at PoP: Warrior Within, I'll turn it on.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ Monty Brown getting pwned by Christian Cage.[/quote]

he had me rolling when he gave Monty the geography lesson
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']he had me rolling when he gave Monty the geography lesson[/QUOTE]

I certainly never think of geography in the same light ever again....
 
[quote name='thesilentshadow30']can't Booker T ever shut the hell up.[/QUOTE]

Thank you & QFT, hell in all of the times he has came down and tried to do commentary. The only thing I liked that I heard was, when sharmell said "look a dick just got wood". Thats when one of the dicks hit the table outside the the ring yesterday. But no one could really here it cause Booker T wouldn't shut the hell up.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']How good was tonight's Impact? Scale it... To download or not to download, that is the question.[/quote]

Not as good as last weeks. Although, Shark Boy was on the show and the Sting video at the end was somewhat worth seeing.
 
[quote name='2fast_2fuhrer']Not as good as last weeks. Although, Shark Boy was on the show and the Sting video at the end was somewhat worth seeing.[/quote]

Guess I'll check it out :)
 
[quote name='2fast_2fuhrer']Not as good as last weeks. Although, Shark Boy was on the show and the Sting video at the end was somewhat worth seeing.[/quote]

I really hate Shark Boy. At least, I hate his "gimmick". If I were a casual viewer, who just happened to come across TNA and Shark Boy was on, I would classify them as completely bush league. Just my opinion, I guess...
 
[quote name='hopesfall']I really hate Shark Boy. At least, I hate his "gimmick". If I were a casual viewer, who just happened to come across TNA and Shark Boy was on, I would classify them as completely bush league. Just my opinion, I guess...[/quote]

Don't ever watch Smackdown! then.

I really like Shark Boy because when I see him, it makes me feel like I could go out there (especially live). Not that he's a bad wrestler by any means; he's just so damn small and out of shape. I am in waaay better shape than that guy.
 
[quote name='2fast_2fuhrer']Don't ever watch Smackdown! then.

I really like Shark Boy because when I see him, it makes me feel like I could go out there (especially live). Not that he's a bad wrestler by any means; he's just so damn small and out of shape. I am in waaay better shape than that guy.[/quote]

Heh, yeah I think a lot of people are :). He might not be a bad wrestler, but geez...he just seems so..."hokey", I guess.
 
Closing the gap in the fantasy league.. pity Paul Burchill's match was on Velocity instead of SD... oh well. And that damn Matt Hardy didn't win the tag titles... again, oh well.
 
I was looking at the lineup for TNA's Destination X, and although only four matches are announced so far, they all look good on paper (despite putting Bob Armstrong in the ring).

Outside of the Outlaws and Billy & Chuck, I, like most of you, didn't like Billy Gunn at all. I must say, however, that being paired back up with BG James seems to have given him a lot more life and vigor. He's a good guy to have on hand; while not a spectacular wrestler, I can say that he's solid, he's willing to make others look good, and rarely seems to half-ass a match. He has it all except for some top-notch wrestling skills (which is a vital omission, certainly) and wit on the mic (another). There is a reason Vince kept him on the payroll for over a decade, guys. Honestly, most of the ex-WWE guys have done a *great* amount to show Vince and Johnny (who?) Ace that they were wrong to get rid of them or de-push them; Rhino, Kip James, Christian, D-Von Dudley, and there must be some others; the only one who let themself go was Bubba Ray (and that's up for debate).

Can you imagine if their momentum keeps up? RVD leaving for TNA (which he should have done by now)? RVD vs Samoa Joe? AJ Styles? Face it, kids; you're the dumbest of the fucking dumb if you think RVD's gonna get anything but Intercontinental gold or the tag-team belt (both of which are empty gestures and a burden more than anything else) for the rest of his tenure in WWE. He needs to leave the company and start wrestling again.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I was looking at the lineup for TNA's Destination X, and although only four matches are announced so far, they all look good on paper (despite putting Bob Armstrong in the ring).

Outside of the Outlaws and Billy & Chuck, I, like most of you, didn't like Billy Gunn at all. I must say, however, that being paired back up with BG James seems to have given him a lot more life and vigor. He's a good guy to have on hand; while not a spectacular wrestler, I can say that he's solid, he's willing to make others look good, and rarely seems to half-ass a match. He has it all except for some top-notch wrestling skills (which is a vital omission, certainly) and wit on the mic (another). There is a reason Vince kept him on the payroll for over a decade, guys. Honestly, most of the ex-WWE guys have done a *great* amount to show Vince and Johnny (who?) Ace that they were wrong to get rid of them or de-push them; Rhino, Kip James, Christian, D-Von Dudley, and there must be some others; the only one who let themself go was Bubba Ray (and that's up for debate).

Can you imagine if their momentum keeps up? RVD leaving for TNA (which he should have done by now)? RVD vs Samoa Joe? AJ Styles? Face it, kids; you're the dumbest of the fucking dumb if you think RVD's gonna get anything but Intercontinental gold or the tag-team belt (both of which are empty gestures and a burden more than anything else) for the rest of his tenure in WWE. He needs to leave the company and start wrestling again.[/quote]

It scares me how much I agree w/you at times.:lol: WWE, Johnny Ace in particular, will do everything they can to spin that these guys are nothing but second-rate talent and had to go to another organization to get to the top. Anybody not in a Snitsky-induced coma will see how ridiculous that is, especially once TNA hits prime-time in April. WM is about a month away and, to be honest, I couldn't care less. For me the wrestling event of April will be TNA's debut. Myke, stop teasing me w/these potential RVD combos.

BTW, does anybody know if Benoit signed another contract?
 
Wow, I didn't expect anyone to agree with me when it comes to praising Billy Gunn. Neat. As I said, he's not a show stealer in the ring, but he's no slouch either. Watch him sell sometimes; while a great wrestler is a great wrestler, the extent to which a guy sells his opponent's stuff (and also considering the "level" of his opponent) will tell you a great deal about a wrestler. I think Gunn sells stuff consistently for people, regardless of who he's in the ring with; knowing that the biggest criticism of the X-division wrestlers is that they'll do a seven-person hurricanrana from the top of the roller-coaster, 75 feet down into a powerbomb/pinning combo, then immediately get right back up and run the ropes like there's nothing wrong with them, it sounds really strange to suggest this, but those guys could learn a thing or two from Billy Gunn.

On the other hand, there are guys who just don't sell a fucking thing; not because they shouldn't (e.g., Kane/Undertaker), but because they think their shit doesn't stink. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head, but I can specifically recall one match this past week (dunno if it was WWE or TNA) where one of the guys didn't even blink when getting punched by his opponent, and it ruined the entire match.

TNA needs to make Destination X a stellar show, as well as the one following it in order to convince me to buy another. I know they can put on good shows, but it's my bad luck to have ordered Final Destination (yep, still bitter about it!). If DX and the next show are awesome, I'll give them another chance and order the next intriguing show.

Dunno about Benoit, but he has a title, so I guess he's on some kind of contract (don't want another "Jarrett" to happen, do you?). I don't think Benoit will leave WWE, which is a shame the way they've treated his best friend's death on television. It just goes to show you those guys have no fuckin' balls when it comes to telling the company to not do something.

I could see RVD telling the company to fuck off, since he seems to still have the desire to wrestle a match (given the excitement he shows towards anything "ECW" related), and he *knows* that WWE style means that he should shut his fucking mouth and work a style that doesn't show up top talent.

CM Punk is in for a rude awakening once he hits TV, if he even gets that far; I understand his position, however, since TNA kinda shit on him and Julio Dinero the last time he was there.

Depending where on the card Edge is in six months, I could see him leaving too. God knows he can't be happy that he had the belt for 3 weeks and is now out of the title picture for the long-term. Is he gonna feud with a heel champ in HHH? Not a chance.

Matt Hardy should kill himself, and complete the trifecta of self-pity and lifelong stupidity. It's kinda funny to think that he made a *HUGE* mistake going to work for WWE instead of TNA. I could not have forseen that.

Anyway, if Raw is, by and large, the same fucking reruns in six months that we've been watching for years, then I could see a lot of guys go down south, especially if Impact gets good ratings on Thursdays.
 
[quote name='neocisco']Myke, stop teasing me w/these potential RVD combos.[/QUOTE]

Lemme see here....

RVD vs Jerry Lynn (which will draw well on PPV, no angle even needed - just let em at it)
RVD vs Alex Shelly
RVD vs Christopher Daniels
RVD vs Jeff Jarrett (you read that right)
RVD vs Monty Brown
RVD vs Jushin “Thunder” Liger (any bets Saucy is going to reappear just to mark out to this)
RVD vs Petey Williams
RVD vs Samoa Joe
RVD vs AJ Styles
RVD vs Abyss
RVD vs Raven
RVD vs Matt Bentley
RVD vs Chris Harris
RVD vs James Storm
RVD vs Jay Lethal
RVD vs Shark Boy

... and I am only warming up.
 
You forgot one of the best...

RVD vs. Chris Sabin


I think RVD will stick around until at least the ECW PPV in June. After that, who knows? Shows how closely I'm following Smackdown. I didn't even know that Benoit had won the US title. The only things that would get me to watch SD on a regular basis again would be good cruiserweight matches (HA!) and another Angle/Benoit feud. In Benoit's case, I would LOVE another "Jarrett" incident. Myke, I'm surprised you didn't see Hardy's current situation coming about. To me, the writing was all over the wall on that one. He brought the whole situation to light outside of the WWE's control and I just didn't see any other way of this happening (a short feud that puts Edge over w/Matt selling beer at concessions, I mean buried on the undercard) since WWE is notorious for their punishments of talent who don't toe the line. Matt is looking at Christian right now and saying "That should have been me!:cry:".
 
After the Helms/Psicosis match, I'm convinced you'll never see real "cruiserweight" matches on WWE tv. You'll see cws wrestle, but they won't be any different in content and flow from any other match on WWE tv. I don't understand why you would have an entirely separate division that isn't any fucking different.

Seriously, there wasn't a single move in that match that you wouldn't see in a Kane versus Tyson Tomko match. What's the fucking point? It's like dating a gorgeous woman who dresses like a lost member of "Little House on the Prairie." Yeah, you know what they're capable of, but you get pissed off when they settle for so much less than that.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']After the Helms/Psicosis match, I'm convinced you'll never see real "cruiserweight" matches on WWE tv. You'll see cws wrestle, but they won't be any different in content and flow from any other match on WWE tv. I don't understand why you would have an entirely separate division that isn't any fucking different.

Seriously, there wasn't a single move in that match that you wouldn't see in a Kane versus Tyson Tomko match. What's the fucking point? It's like dating a gorgeous woman who dresses like a lost member of "Little House on the Prairie." Yeah, you know what they're capable of, but you get pissed off when they settle for so much less than that.[/quote]

That's what is so damn frustrating. They have THE BEST CW roster in the business right now (London, Kendrick, Helms, Noble, Punk, Kash, Psicosis, my personal fave, Super Crazy, etc.) and it's completely wasted. When I said the best I was including the X-Division as well. Those 2 groups are extremely close but the CW's have just a little more depth, IMO. The X-D looks better, of course, since they're actually allowed to wrestle their styles. If the CW's could really cut loose, look out. It will never happen, though.
 
Vince McMahon never really had a grasp on the cruiserweight concept. If there was one thing that the WCW did really well it was their cruiserweight division.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Because the CW's might use moves that make the big, talentless hosses look, well, big and talentless?[/QUOTE]
Well, I disagree; there's a place in wrestling for a classic NWA 80's-style wrestling match (the kind that Flair/Sting used to have, and that HHH *thinks* he's wrestling). Just one look at the Angle/Taker main event match from last week shows you that these guys definitely *can* go, and that they are the main event guys (compared to the cw guys).

There are plenty of big talentless guys, I'll agree to that. While letting Brian Kendrick and Super Crazy go to town would make them very popular, they won't ever surpass the top-card guys. Snitsky? Yeah, but who the hell cares about that?

What's frustrating, and what neocisco and ZL point out is that it's not the wrestlers, it's the *context.* If I tell you Paul London and Super Crazy had a match on Velocity, none of you would watch it. If I said they had a match on TNA or in ROH, then you would *expect* that the wrestling was top notch. That's something that I can't figure out about WWE; with all the talent they have, they've conditioned the fans to expect their wrestling matches to be of the poorest quality compared with the other up-and-coming companies out there at the moment.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']they've conditioned the fans to expect their wrestling matches to be of the poorest quality compared with the other up-and-coming companies out there at the moment.[/quote]

Saving resources? Maybe? You can bet your bottom dollar that when (not if, but when) TNA reaches WCW-eqsue status Vince will definitely turn the heat back on. You gotta wonder if he's anticipating another Monday Night War type of ordeal... except maybe for Thursdays?

RVD in TNA would be a dream come true... Although I'd like to see him have matches with the X-Division guys (AJ vs. RVD would probably be my most anticipated match ever, too bad RVD is getting old and can't keep up:cry:) he'd have to be competing for the NWA belt. Having hardcore matches with the likes of Abyss, Sabu, Rhyno, and eventually Jarrett :)
 
You know, it might be in Vince's best interest to start up another federation on the side... of course he'd have to do so through someone else, for as soon as we knew it was Vince behind it we'd tune out. Anyway he could put in his cruiserweights and other guys such as RVD that we'd love to see outside of a WWE ring. Instead of releasing these guys or letting them jump to TNA you put them all in an alternate WWE, not SD/RAW, but an entirely different company.

Then, as Myke said, people would tune in to see these guys wrestle. Vince could fund a TV deal behind the scenes too, and make more money. Obviously the trick is going to be slowly moving the right guys over to this alternate-WWE. Essentially it'd be a WWE for the smarks. Then you can have Psichosis take on Nunzio in a five star match, and people will actually care.

I'd probably start the roster off by pooling together some of the bigger indy-fed draws. Maybe even reach out to Jeff Hardy, as he has nothing better to do at the moment. I know someone like Jeff Hardy violates the idea that this would be a wrestling federation built on nothing but quality wrestling, but #1 you need a draw, and #2 Jeff does some things that most other wrestlers just don't/won't do.

Remember when Vince secretly funded ECW on the side? That's kind of what this would be like, but I wouldn't have Heyman involved of course. I'd get someone with no association with the WWE to run the show.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']You know, it might be in Vince's best interest to start up another federation on the side... of course he'd have to do so through someone else, for as soon as we knew it was Vince behind it we'd tune out. Anyway he could put in his cruiserweights and other guys such as RVD that we'd love to see outside of a WWE ring. Instead of releasing these guys or letting them jump to TNA you put them all in an alternate WWE, not SD/RAW, but an entirely different company.

Then, as Myke said, people would tune in to see these guys wrestle. Vince could fund a TV deal behind the scenes too, and make more money. Obviously the trick is going to be slowly moving the right guys over to this alternate-WWE. Essentially it'd be a WWE for the smarks. Then you can have Psichosis take on Nunzio in a five star match, and people will actually care.

I'd probably start the roster off by pooling together some of the bigger indy-fed draws. Maybe even reach out to Jeff Hardy, as he has nothing better to do at the moment. I know someone like Jeff Hardy violates the idea that this would be a wrestling federation built on nothing but quality wrestling, but #1 you need a draw, and #2 Jeff does some things that most other wrestlers just don't/won't do.

Remember when Vince secretly funded ECW on the side? That's kind of what this would be like, but I wouldn't have Heyman involved of course. I'd get someone with no association with the WWE to run the show.[/QUOTE]

What you are describing is what he should have done with WCW six years ago. Remember the whole Shane buying WCW storyline? They could have taken six months off for Shane to recruit talent from the WWE (on camera, of course) to retool and come back as the "new" WCW.
 
[quote name='niceguyshawne']What you are describing is what he should have done with WCW six years ago. Remember the whole Shane buying WCW storyline? They could have taken six months off for Shane to recruit talent from the WWE (on camera, of course) to retool and come back as the "new" WCW.[/QUOTE]

Don't you know that the public was just *clamoring* to see Undertaker's dogshit-ugly wife pin Diamond Dallas Page?

Duh!
 
After getting way too intimate with the insides of Batista's triceps (watching the surgery video), I don't think I'll click on that video link. Thanks though.

Anyone else pumped for the match of the century between Candance Michelle and Trish Stratus, or what? Let it go 25 minutes, and they'll show you why RVD doesn't even belong on Heat, shining Rob Conway's boots!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']After getting way too intimate with the insides of Batista's triceps (watching the surgery video), I don't think I'll click on that video link. Thanks though.

Anyone else pumped for the match of the century between Candance Michelle and Trish Stratus, or what? Let it go 25 minutes, and they'll show you why RVD doesn't even belong on Heat, shining Rob Conway's boots![/quote]

The JBL video doesn't show anything like that. Just a bit of the doctor and JBL (in character). They show his hand but the doctor is just holding it. It's not graphic at all.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']They show his hand but the doctor is just holding it.[/QUOTE]

For some reason, I really want to hear Billy Ocean's "Caribbean Queen" right now.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']What's frustrating, and what neocisco and ZL point out is that it's not the wrestlers, it's the *context.* If I tell you Paul London and Super Crazy had a match on Velocity, none of you would watch it. If I said they had a match on TNA or in ROH, then you would *expect* that the wrestling was top notch. That's something that I can't figure out about WWE; with all the talent they have, they've conditioned the fans to expect their wrestling matches to be of the poorest quality compared with the other up-and-coming companies out there at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Exactly myke. Vince McMahon (and the bookers) keep treating the CWs as not even a second thought but more like at least a SIXTEENTH OF A THOUGHT of importance to the company with even the janitors, Snitsky, and Tyson Tomko ahead of them. How often do you see the CW champ even on SmackDown! at all? The last CW title match was at NWO which had barely any build up or importance to it since they only gave it any push during the SmackDown! before NWO.

Then again it seems like WWE can't decide on what to do with SD anyways. Its like as if they want the shows to be a tribute to the cheesy aspects of the 80s era of wrestling (ie: Boogeyman, Paul Burchell the pirate). Then we got the CW side which is just absymal at best. Followed by the Juniors which I just don't get. Then we got the part that is resembling too much of the early to mid 90s complete with Kurt Angle in the role of Bret Hart, the Undertaker back to his dead man gimmick, Mark Henry who at best should be either a security guard or janitor at the show. Chris Benoit is being wasted. Randy Orton has been given a completely lame character. Rey Mysterio should have quit and gone to TNA by now. Booker T's character has gotten very boring.

EDIT: Oh... and JBL who's I swear has more in common with Ted DiBiase than the Bradshaw from the APA days.

So... again.... what's the point of SmackDown these days? If I can't get it then obviously the WWE isn't doing a good job. Yeah there is occasionally some good wrestling on the show but overall its just a disaster. Sadly I don't see this changing any time soon either.
 
Vince McMahon has given more thought to his "Kiss My Ass" club than anything dealing with cruiserweights. I still can't believe he actaully got Regal to do that.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']How often do you see the CW champ even on SmackDown! at all? The last CW title match was at NWO which had barely any build up or importance to it since they only gave it any push during the SmackDown! before NWO.[/quote]

Actually, Helms has been on Smackdown for the past 3 or 4 weeks, and defended last Friday against one of the Mexicools. Supposedly he'll be defending the title every week now on Smackdown by decree of Teddy Long.

Also, an update about the 'big meeting', turns out it was about the drug policy after all: [quote name='WWE.com']
Effective today, February 27, 2006, WWE is implementing a broad WWE Talent Wellness Program. The Program has two components: 1. an aggressive substance abuse and drug testing policy, and 2. a cardiovascular testing and monitoring program.


The Substance Abuse and Drug Testing Policy (“Policy”) prohibits the non-medical use and associate abuse of prescription medications and performance-enhancing drugs, as well as the use, possession and/or distribution of illegal drugs by WWE Talent. The use of masking agents and/or diuretics to conceal or obscure the use of prohibited drugs is also prohibited. This Policy will be administered by Dr. David L. Black, Ph.D., D-ABFT, D-ABCC, of Aegis Sciences Corporation, Nashville, Tennessee. Dr. Black will be responsible for scheduling Talent for testing, administering collection of samples, coordinating secure shipment of samples to the testing facility, determining whether any WWE Talent has tested positive and directing the appropriate penalty be imposed.


Under the Policy, WWE Talent may be tested on a random and/or reasonable suspicion basis. The initial test of all Talent will be considered "baseline" testing. No discipline will be imposed for a positive test on the baseline test. The results of the baseline test, if positive for any prohibited substance, will be utilized thereafter by Dr. Black to determine if use has continued. After the baseline test, subsequent positive tests for non-medical use of a prohibited substance will result in disciplinary action. For testing positive the first time, a Talent will be suspended for 30 days without pay. A second positive test results in a 60 day suspension without pay or, if Dr. Black so determines, in-patient care at a substance abuse facility, during which the Talent also will be suspended without pay. A third positive test results in termination.


The cardiovascular aspect of the wellness program will be handled by New York Cardiology Associates P.C., led by Drs. Post and Feuerbach. Under this aspect of the Program, all WWE Talent will undergo an extensive cardiovascular stress test. Examinations and treatment will be conducted thereafter as warranted.[/quote] Looks to be a step in the right direction.

And that concludes good old post 1000. :bouncy:
 
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