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Anyone watch Around the Horn on ESPN tonight? They talked about the Trump-Vince match in The Showdown, and Woody Paige was actually marking out, proclaiming that Bobby Lashley would defeat Umaga. Of course, as is mandatory for a sports media mention of the WWE, the whole "is it real" talk popped up. :roll:
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Anyone watch Around the Horn on ESPN tonight? They talked about the Trump-Vince match in The Showdown, and Woody Paige was actually marking out, proclaiming that Bobby Lashley would defeat Umaga. Of course, as is mandatory for a sports media mention of the WWE, the whole "is it real" talk popped up. :roll:[/QUOTE]

The match was also mentioned on Sports Center today as well during the top 10 at number 8.
 
[quote name='Genocidal']I didn't find his post to be any more inflammatory than some of the other things said the past couple of pages (less so, actually), but oh well.[/quote]
Agreed. I think he had valid points, that being said I think ZL also had valid points... this is just a clash of opinions, (I meant besides all the personal attacks, those are simply uncalled for) what the interwebs was invented for.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla'] the whole "is it real" talk popped up. :roll:[/quote]

Every time someone says that I think they should be hit with a chair and then given the Last Ride, then after that said person can be asked "So, is it real?"

Kurt Angle (before he went insane) told me that Taker's Last Ride was the most painful regular, non-weapon move to take.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Agreed. I think he had valid points, that being said I think ZL also had valid points... this is just a clash of opinions, what the interwebs was invented for :D[/quote]

:lol: I love die-hard Bret Hart marks, they honestly think he was the greatest thing since Jesus, and get very upset should you dare tell them otherwise.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Every time someone says that I think they should be hit with a chair and then given the Last Ride, then after that said person can be asked "So, is it real?"

Kurt Angle (before he went insane) told me that Taker's Last Ride was the most painful regular, non-weapon move to take.[/quote]The "realness" in question is based on the winner being determined ahead of time. I don't think, in this day and age, the question of "do they really get hurt" comes into play anymore.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']just got back from philly..

wow suprised you guys aint talking about svr08[/QUOTE]

An interesting interview. I hate to think they're hinting at the "nontraditional" DS version of the title in a way that makes me think it's going to end up more of a strategy/card battle game than an action title. I'll wait for a number of reviews on that before I pick it up.

As for the PS3/360 versions, there are two massive things they need to implement in this year's game. First and foremost are custom entrance themes. They should be ashamed of themselves to have omitted that from the 360 version of 2007. Second and almost as important, I don't want to have to spend 15-20 seconds button mashing to get my character to stand back up. It's absurd, it's annoying, and it ruins the feel and flow of a match in the game. The early SD! games on PS1 had guys no-selling like a TNA X-Division match: everyone stood up and recovered from moves *far* too quickly. SVR07 made me feel, OTOH, like the pendulum had hit in almost the precise opposite direction. Here's hoping they hit a sweet spot with regard to that; otherwise, I'll wait until it's $20-30.

Then again, game makers say the same kind of crap every year. "We're listening to gamers' concerns." "We're making major improvements." "This will change dramatically." Shit like that. Far too frequently with annually-released games, this becomes a bunch of phony pretense, and in the push to release the game by the street date, gives a dismal "same shit, different case" feel to these games. I'd really like to think it will change, but I'm not entirely hopeful.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']The "realness" in question is based on the winner being determined ahead of time. I don't think, in this day and age, the question of "do they really get hurt" comes into play anymore.[/quote]

Eh... I think there's still some ignorant folk that believe pro wrestling is 100% fake. I certainly don't believe that the people saying "is it real" grasp the concept of how much pain some of these wrestlers endure.

After the 2006 NBA finals, I found myself asking the "Is it real?" question though :roll:
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Then again, game makers say the same kind of crap every year. "We're listening to gamers' concerns." "We're making major improvements." "This will change dramatically." Shit like that. Far too frequently with annually-released games, this becomes a bunch of phony pretense, and in the push to release the game by the street date, gives a dismal "same shit, different case" feel to these games. I'd really like to think it will change, but I'm not entirely hopeful.[/quote]

They've lost me as a customer until they bring back the engine used for No Mercy, WM2000, Revenge, World Tour... all the quality N64 wrestling games. Why that configuration was abandoned is still a mystery to me.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']After the 2006 NBA finals, I found myself asking the "Is it real?" question though :roll:[/quote]

I found myself asking that after the Lakers/Trailblazers Western Conference Finals quite a while back.
 
[quote name='2Fast']I found myself asking that after the Lakers/Trailblazers Western Conference Finals quite a while back.[/quote]

:) Man, that was rough, but at least Stern didn't have a publicly known hatred of Paul Allen.

How about the 1998 Bash at the Beach?
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']:lol: I love die-hard Bret Hart marks, they honestly think he was the greatest thing since Jesus, and get very upset should you dare tell them otherwise.[/quote] You know what, I'll just pass your taunts to the mods because I have better things to deal with than girls like you. Interesting that you had to go running to them every three seconds just so you could post something derogatory in return. If you had a wrestling gimmick, it'd ironically be a heel Bret Hart. Whine on.

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Anyway, I just hope they give us the ability to turn off the weight system. I thought SVR07 was the worst of the SVR games, especially with the horrendous loading times and horrible in-game mechanics. Although I think they'll use the next-gen thing as a reason to strip extra features and wrestlers like they did with the other games.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Again the irrelevant personal attacks, you seem to have quite a bit of built up hostility, why not spare us your crap and go squeeze out a few rounds to some Bret Hart pics. C'mon, I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time ;)[/quote]

Instead I'll just mention your death wishes and taunts to the mods as well. I have better things to deal with than girls like you.
 
[quote name='ahmedmalik']You know what, I'll just pass your taunts to the mods because I have better things to deal with than girls like you. Interesting that you had to go running to them every three seconds just so you could post something derogatory in return. If you had a wrestling gimmick, it'd ironically be a heel Bret Hart. Whine on.[/quote]

Again, the Bret Hart obsession, should I take that as a complement? I mean you do hold Bret Hart in very high regard afterall, but why do you keep making these unrelated personal attacks? Are my comments about Bret Hart really getting to you that much? I should post the private message you sent me for everyone to read here. ;)

Seriously dude, you've got some issues, lighten up! If all else fails, and you absolutely can't stand anything negative being said about your beloved Hitman, just put me on block. Good grief.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Again, the Bret Hart obsession, should I take that as a complement? I mean you do hold Bret Hart in very high regard afterall, but why do you keep making these unrelated personal attacks? Are my comments about Bret Hart really getting to you that much? I should post the private message you sent me for everyone to read here. ;)

Seriously dude, you've got some issues, lighten up! If all else fails, and you absolutely can't stand anything negative being said about your beloved Hitman, just put me on block. Good grief.[/quote] Go ahead and post it. I'm not ashamed. It's pretty much what my initial message said in the thread until I realized you would just cry to the mods again.

With that out of the way, newsflash, I'm a HBK mark. You're just looking to push people as Hart marks so you can fuck with them. It's pathetic. If anyone gives Hart any amount of credit, well gee they must be a Hart mark.

My main beef with you is that you wished death up on the man which is not cool and I reported it to the mods as such. Let them deal with your shit. I'm done.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Cut the shit or I'll report both of yas.

Take it to PM.[/quote]
Who is that in your icon? Big show?
 
[quote name='ahmedmalik']Go ahead and post it. I'm not ashamed. It's pretty much what my initial message said in the thread until I realized you would just cry to the mods again.

With that out of the way, newsflash, I'm a HBK mark. You're just looking to push people as Hart marks so you can fuck with them. It's pathetic. If anyone gives Hart any amount of credit, well gee they must be a Hart mark.

My main beef with you is that you wished death up on the man which is not cool and I reported it to the mods as such. Let them deal with your shit. I'm done.[/quote]

Yea ZL... regardless of your personal differences.. you basically did say that you wished Bret took the plunge instead of Owen. I mean I can understand you saying that about Carlito or Goldberg but Hart?!?!? :rofl: Just kididng of course. The whole "I wish this man was dead" thing was kind of low...
 
My overall thoughts on Impact...

Fairly decent show tonight. The Xcape match was pretty good, although I'm not sure how wise it is to put a cage match on free TV with no hype and fill it with men that most viewers don't care about mere weeks before an all-cage match PPV. Backlund doing the step test was a funny running gag, and Christian ruled on the mic. Abyss-Angle was okay, but not as good as their first Impact match, and EY-Storm went on far too long for the goal they wanted to accomplish with it. Oh, and they added depth to the Abyss-father-mother storyline, wonderful - now it can go on for six more months.

Mitchell - You can take your self-righteous routine and shove it up your a*s.
Tenay - 43 YEAR OLD JERRY LYNN JUST HIPTOSSED FIVE X DIVISION COMPETITORS!
Tenay - SHARKY GOT THE BOOT UP!
Tenay - IT IS SO DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER PAY-PER-VIEW ON THE MARKET TODAY!
Tenay - How’s THAT FOR A TASTE OF WHAT YOU’LL SEE AT LOCKDOWN!
Cage - Wow, you look buff. You enjoy Japan, eat some sushi? Did you take an origami class or something?
Tenay - Last week, we all assumed that Scott Steiner would be the third member of Team Cage, but now that he’s walking down to the ring with AJ Styles and Christian Cage, I think it is cemented that he is the third member of Team Cage!
Cage - Of all the Booty Daddy’s I’ve met, this guy is definitely the biggest and baddest!
Tenay - THAT MAKES IT OFFICIAL!
DW - HAHA, THAT’S RIGHT, HE OFFERED HIM A TITLE SHOT. HE’S THROWING OUT TITLE SHOTS LIKE THEY’RE CANDY!
Tenay - WELL, WHAT A SHOCKING REVELATION WE HEARD EARLIER TONIGHT. ABYSS WENT TO JAIL TO PROTECT HIS MOTHER. BLACKMAIL! On the part of James Mitchell.
AJ - Woah woah woah, Christian, I don’t know if that’s how they do it Canada, but in Gainesville, Georgia, that equals 4.
Cage - I guess he didn’t hear me, I’ll try again.
Tenay - WELL THAT’S HIS CUE!
DW - He looks none too happy!
Tomko - BACK UP!
Tenay - Woah!
Tenay - WOW, WHAT DO YOU SAY CHRISTIAN!? TOMKO WANTS IT TONIGHT ON IMPACT!
Tenay - IT’S TEAM ANGLE!
DW - THEY’RE A UNIT!
Angle - Christian is a liar!
Tomko - SHUT. UP!
DW - WOW!
Cornette - This is a wrestling program, not a debate, not a soap opera, so we’re gonna settle this with good, old-fashioned wrestling!
Tenay AMEN!
Tomko - Mr. Cornette… JIMMY, YOU GOT YOURSELF A DEAL!
Tenay - WOW!
JB - One of the established members of Team Angle will have to face a member of Team Cage tonight…
Angle - Well, I’m gonna have to go with… me.
Angle - I’m a man of my word. Whenever I say I’m gonna do something, I DO IT!
Penzer - Representing Robert Roode Inc…
Tenay - THAT’S THE KEY!
Tenay - Now he’s going to try and outsmart the pyro.
DW - He’s going to have a heart attack on the ramp one day.
Tenay - Backlund doesn’t even know there’s a wrestling program going on.
Tenay - Any leads as to who the special friend is that Eric Young has talked about?
DW - I think it’s Petey Williams. He’s the kind of guy that likes to take on causes.
Tenay - If Eric Young won, the roof would have blown off of the Impact Zone!
Roode - THAT WAS PATHETIC!
Tenay - Here’s Robert Roode and Ms. Brooks.
Roode - YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO ROBERT ROODE INCORPORATED!
DW - WOW!!
Tenay - OH HE WANTS TO HIT HIM SO BAD, BUT IF HE DOES, HE CAN’T WRESTLE AGAIN IN TNA!
DW - It might be worth it someday!
DW- It’s Petey!
Tenay - YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT, DON!
Steiner - He’s a redneck, he’s useless.
Cage - If I get injured, who’s gonna sell tickets?
Steiner - These arms sell tickets!
AJ - Nah, THIS HOOD SELLS TICKETS! It bounces.
Mitchell - Don’t forget, she’s only a phone call away.
Cage - I GOT THE PHONE!
Tenay - Christy Hemme seems to think that women have a place in wrestling.
Tenay - We now bring you Christy Hemme and VKM, and Lance Hoyt.
Kip - NOW YOU’RE PISSING ME OFF! PLEASE. STOP!
Tenay - I think it was a smart move by Jim Cornette to settle this issue with Tomko in Lethal Lockdown inside the six sided ring.
DW - We talk about Mitchell using blackmail, but Christian uses BRIBERY!
DW - HE’S SPITTING “DON’T TAP OUT!”
Tenay - THAT WAS A MIRACULOUS MOVE!
DW - RIGHT INTO THE REFEREE!
Tenay - How do you read that?
DW - OH I DON’T KNOW!
DW - WOW, HE JUST SPUN AROUND AND HIT HIM WITH THE CLIPBOARD!
DW - HERE COMES THE WAR MACHINE AND YOU KNOW HE’S PISSED OFF!
DW - IT’S TOO MANY ON ONE!
Tenay - HERE COMES JOE!
Tenay - I never thought that Team Cage would be complete while Team Angle is still in doubt!

As for SvR '08, eh, nothing said really makes me that excited. There's always some excuse for the shitty AI, and I'm certain they've got a bunch of them ready if it still turns out to be horrid in this installment. Sporadic, you can switch '07's controls to the regular button input method if you want to, and it's the only way I play since the control stick method feels too awkward to me.
 
[quote name='CitizenB']So I haven't watched wrestling in two months.

Cliff notes?[/QUOTE]
TNA still isn't making money and WWE is poised to have a big-money card in WM XXIII on Sunday. TNA has Lethal Lockdown in a couple of weeks, with Jay Lethal now doing a Macho Man impression, while WWE just had HBK superkick Cena en route to their title match at 'Mania. Christian is still TNA's world champion, and has cheated to beat both Joe and Angle. Tomko pinned Joe on Impact a few weeks ago, while Eric Young is owned by Robert Roode Inc., and is fed up with his treatment. American Hero Petey Williams has come to his rescue twice. Shelley is still losing far too many matches, and was pinned by Shark Boy tonight.
 
[quote name='CitizenB']So I haven't watched wrestling in two months.

Cliff notes?[/QUOTE]

Jimmy "The Boogie Woogie Man" Valiant is still gone and he ain't never comin' back. :cry:

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[quote name='JaytheGamefan']TNA still isn't making money and WWE is poised to have a big-money card in WM XXIII on Sunday. TNA has Lethal Lockdown in a couple of weeks, with Jay Lethal now doing a Macho Man impression, while WWE just had HBK superkick Cena en route to their title match at 'Mania. Christian is still TNA's world champion, and has cheated to beat both Joe and Angle. Tomko pinned Joe on Impact a few weeks ago, while Eric Young is owned by Robert Roode Inc., and is fed up with his treatment. American Hero Petey Williams has come to his rescue twice. Shelley is still losing far too many matches, and was pinned by Shark Boy tonight.[/QUOTE]

Melina is the Women's Champion, and Umaga is now Intercontinetal Champion. Joey Mercury got fired.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Melina is the Women's Champion, and Umaga is now Intercontinetal Champion. Joey Mercury got fired.[/QUOTE]

And there is something about Vince McMahon vs Donald Trump hair vs hair at Wrestlemania 23.
 
Wow, this thread exploded into awesomeness!

Ahmed got banned? Unless there was something here I was missing or got deleted, it didn't seem like anything done was ban worthy.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac']So is your girl bangin' some other dude or what?[/quote]

Well unless it's you, or possibly the Pistons, then definitely no.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']And there is something about Vince McMahon vs Donald Trump hair vs hair at Wrestlemania 23.[/quote]

Bad News Brown, Ernie "Big Cat" Ladd, Arnold "Golden Boy" Skaaland, Bam Bam Bigelow and Mike Awesome all recently passed away.
 
ROH tonight. I'll probably take some pics and put them up here. I don't even remember what's on the card outside of the Dragon Gate stuff, so I'm hoping it doesn't suck. Hey, at least Bruno will be there.



Speaking of "it should have been Bret," I was in a chatroom with a bunch of long-time friends when Owen fell, most of us were watching the show. A late-comer arrived in the room and wasn't aware of what happened - when he came in the room he immediately asked if "that bumwad Shane Douglas" had shown up, as there were rumors at the time that Douglas was going to appear at the event. Most of the people in the room were appalled that he would ask such a thing at a time like this, as one guy said, quote, "fuck you. fuck your sorry ass."

When someone said "dude, Owen Hart died" he repiled "what? what??? oh man I just read it" quickly followed by "That sucks, it should have been Bret." The same "fuck your sorry ass" guy immediately wrote "GET THE fuck OUT."

The just-arrived guy then obviously made everything ok by qualifying his statement with "I mean, you know, if it had to be one of them."

The "fuck your sorry ass" guy then accused me of being insensitive because I dared to ask the question of when his last match was. He took me to task with "I CARE ABOUT THE MAN, NOT HOW MUCH I CAN MAKE SELLING OWEN'S LAST MATCH."

It's like one of those wedding receptions where some people who are friends on any other day get into this horrible drunken brawl, where things are said that can be never taken back and the groom winds up sitting in a corner silently on what is supposed to be the happiest day of his life, and the pissed-off father of the bride is just standing there screaming at no one in particular and kicking the table where the DJ was set up...but then years later you all look back on it and think its hilarious. While holding a dark resentment deep inside.
 
Woo! to all my wrestleholics. Just got back from JC Penny's and they kick ass. Wrestling shirts on clearance plus an extra 10% off. They had a whole bunch of them and different sizes to boot, but the only one I picked up was this kick ass Roddy Piper shirt saying Hot Rod on the front and his picture and a Piper's Pit on the back. Like I said, they had a wide variety of them such as Batista (didn't care) and Undertaker (was alright, but I don't think I could ever see myself wearing it). If you want wrestling shirts I'd recommend checking them out. Even if you don't care for them, $6 shirts ain't bad at all.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']ROH tonight. I'll probably take some pics and put them up here. I don't even remember what's on the card outside of the Dragon Gate stuff, so I'm hoping it doesn't suck. Hey, at least Bruno will be there.



Speaking of "it should have been Bret," I was in a chatroom with a bunch of long-time friends when Owen fell, most of us were watching the show. A late-comer arrived in the room and wasn't aware of what happened - when he came in the room he immediately asked if "that bumwad Shane Douglas" had shown up, as there were rumors at the time that Douglas was going to appear at the event. Most of the people in the room were appalled that he would ask such a thing at a time like this, as one guy said, quote, "fuck you. fuck your sorry ass."

When someone said "dude, Owen Hart died" he repiled "what? what??? oh man I just read it" quickly followed by "That sucks, it should have been Bret." The same "fuck your sorry ass" guy immediately wrote "GET THE fuck OUT."

The just-arrived guy then obviously made everything ok by qualifying his statement with "I mean, you know, if it had to be one of them."

The "fuck your sorry ass" guy then accused me of being insensitive because I dared to ask the question of when his last match was. He took me to task with "I CARE ABOUT THE MAN, NOT HOW MUCH I CAN MAKE SELLING OWEN'S LAST MATCH."

It's like one of those wedding receptions where some people who are friends on any other day get into this horrible drunken brawl, where things are said that can be never taken back and the groom winds up sitting in a corner silently on what is supposed to be the happiest day of his life, and the pissed-off father of the bride is just standing there screaming at no one in particular and kicking the table where the DJ was set up...but then years later you all look back on it and think its hilarious. While holding a deep resentment deep inside.[/QUOTE]


snap a couple of Cabana is you can
 
ROH tonight. I'll probably take some pics and put them up here. I don't even remember what's on the card outside of the Dragon Gate stuff, so I'm hoping it doesn't suck. Hey, at least Bruno will be there.



Speaking of "it should have been Bret," I was in a chatroom with a bunch of long-time friends when Owen fell, most of us were watching the show. A late-comer arrived in the room and wasn't aware of what happened - when he came in the room he immediately asked if "that bumwad Shane Douglas" had shown up, as there were rumors at the time that Douglas was going to appear at the event. Most of the people in the room were appalled that he would ask such a thing at a time like this, as one guy said, quote, "fuck you. fuck your sorry ass."

When someone said "dude, Owen Hart died" he repiled "what? what??? oh man I just read it" quickly followed by "That sucks, it should have been Bret." The same "fuck your sorry ass" guy immediately wrote "GET THE fuck OUT."

The just-arrived guy then obviously made everything ok by qualifying his statement with "I mean, you know, if it had to be one of them."

The "fuck your sorry ass" guy then accused me of being insensitive because I dared to ask the question of when his last match was. He took me to task with "I CARE ABOUT THE MAN, NOT HOW MUCH I CAN MAKE SELLING OWEN'S LAST MATCH."

It's like one of those wedding receptions where some people who are friends on any other day get into this horrible drunken brawl, where things are said that can be never taken back and the groom winds up sitting in a corner silently on what is supposed to be the happiest day of his life, and the pissed-off father of the bride is just standing there screaming at no one in particular and kicking the table where the DJ was set up...but then years later you all look back on it and think its hilarious. While holding a dark resentment deep inside.
 
*EDIT* - Never mind, "No video or digital cameras are allowed in the building!!!"

And with that, I guess I won't be attending any more ROH shows after this weekend. My biggest annoyance with going to concerts, events, whatever - if they don't let you bring a camera in, they can go fuck themselves.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Woo! to all my wrestleholics. Just got back from JC Penny's and they kick ass. Wrestling shirts on clearance plus an extra 10% off. They had a whole bunch of them and different sizes to boot, but the only one I picked up was this kick ass Roddy Piper shirt saying Hot Rod on the front and his picture and a Piper's Pit on the back. Like I said, they had a wide variety of them such as Batista (didn't care) and Undertaker (was alright, but I don't think I could ever see myself wearing it). If you want wrestling shirts I'd recommend checking them out. Even if you don't care for them, $6 shirts ain't bad at all.[/quote]

Nice heads up, earlier today I was actually thinking about what I'd wear to WM. I've only got 2 Wrestling Shirts, a Road Warriors one that came with their dvd and an old Rock one, the "Hit it Strong" one... oh and a John Cena one that I won from a contest right here on CAG :lol: I'll definitely be stopping by JCPenny to see if I can find anything worth wearing to Mania.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2007/03/29/3869716.html

Kennedy is down with the Row. Therefore he just went up on my list a few notches.[/quote]

[quote name='"Mr. Kennedy"']
"But we're on the road 250-300 days a year and when I'm home, my girlfriend wants me to spend time with her and not play with myself. But tonight, I'll play with myself in front of all these people."
[/QUOTE]

:lol: Childish humor - yes, but still rather comical.
 
I'm quite suprised that the game is playable in any form already. The Wii version looks fun. I cracked a smile when I saw him do HHH's taunt, then frowned when I realized all he did was push a button on the D-Pad, then make the motion. Kind of a bummer that all they really did was two or three moves, though.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']*EDIT* - Never mind, "No video or digital cameras are allowed in the building!!!"[/QUOTE]

They usually don't have a problem with digital photo cameras despite the disclaimer. Its digital VIDEO cameras they do have a problem with.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']im interested to see how smackdown plays on the ds and wii....

them saying that the ds game would be "different" worries me[/quote]

If the game is like WWF No Mercy then I buying it.
 
[quote name='coolcolt']If the game is like WWF No Mercy then I buying it.[/quote]

yea right.. id expect a card game before them making an attempt at an actual wrestling game. im expecting something stupid and turn based
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']*EDIT* - Never mind, "No video or digital cameras are allowed in the building!!!"

And with that, I guess I won't be attending any more ROH shows after this weekend. My biggest annoyance with going to concerts, events, whatever - if they don't let you bring a camera in, they can go fuck themselves.[/quote]Have fun depriving yourself of 3 hours of awesome entertainment, simply because you can't take a couple digital pictures. They've always allowed regular disposable type cameras into their events.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Bad News Brown, Ernie "Big Cat" Ladd, Arnold "Golden Boy" Skaaland, Bam Bam Bigelow and Mike Awesome all recently passed away.[/QUOTE]

D-Ray 3000 jumped from TNA to WWE. :lol:
 
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