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[quote name='TheRock88']fuck Jeff Hardy

Punk's reactions during the match was great. Especially during the running bulldog part.[/QUOTE]

Calling it right now! Punk calls for a drug test on Hardy on Smackdown!
 
I guess Hardy demanded a title reign in order to stay.

I like Hardy, but even I- the most forgiving wrestling fan you'll ever come across- am getting pissed about these rapid fire title changes a'la WCW in 2000, and the fact that my favorites hold the belts for very short periods of time- again, like WCW in 2000.
 
This whole justin.tv thing is great. I wonder if they stream normal TV shows. If they do, there'd be no reason to have cable!
 
So what's to say they won't try the Punk tells them to drug test Jeff, they say Jeff failed, and vacate the title/give it back to Punk?
 
I don't mean that he'd fail for real. Kayfabe and whatnot. Then he comes back, three month rule, all is forgiven, whatever.
 
Hulu has ECW and Smackdown up the day after broadcast. Smackdown as of lately on Hulu has had a bonus vault match added onto it as well. A few weeks ago they had Orton vs Taker from 2002. Pretty fun to see Orton as a baby face as well.
 
been gonna all day & forgot the ppv was tonight. I guess 2 months of jobbing to cena helped get big show the straps. would have rather seen them go in a different direction. But lately the wwe continues to do something totally different than everyone expects in a completely bad way.

Sounds like I didn't miss much in the triple threat match, not that I expected much to begin with. I'm glad they allowed Orton to retain the belt rather than stick it back on Cena or triple H.

May have to try & catch a replay just to catch the punk promo & match.
 
[quote name='Chronis']I don't mean that he'd fail for real. Kayfabe and whatnot. Then he comes back, three month rule, all is forgiven, whatever.[/QUOTE]

I know, but between Punk already mentioning Jeff having 2 strikes along with the way WWE wants others (especially stockholders) to see their wellness policy, it'd be a disaster. Otherwise, I'd say go with it.
 
Im really really pissed about Punk losing. Though I knew he would when Orton retained and Punk/Hardy was the main event. The only thing Im hoping is that he drops it back to Punk at Summerslam. They said even if he doesnt resign he was going to work Summerslam anyways, maybe the belt is a suck up to get him to resign. Hell if I know but Punk better get it back after them turning him all this time.
 
just caught the first 30-40 min of the ppv. The big shows tights make him look like earthquake - part deux.

I thought the punk promo sounded too much like a "say no to drugs" infomerical.
 
C.M. Punk's performance in the World Title match last night was the best "docuhebag heel" performance we've seen since Shawn Michaels circa 1997. That was a star-making performance and it was freakin' incredible how awesome and entertaining Punk was to watch as the super arrogant heel. It was better than Orton. Better than HHH. Better than Edge. Better than Jericho. I had forgotten how awesome bad guys could be (it has been 12 years) but really, I can't wait for more!

I'd also think that Punk will call for a drug test. Hardy will pass. Punk will be in disbelief and things will lead to a head in a Hell in a Cell match between the two where Punk will regain the belt.

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That was an awesome promo last night. This is what most of us have been talking abou ever since Punk signed with WWE: his sXe persona can only ever shine when he's a heel, and this is air tight evidence of that.
 
There's much more subtlety to it than there was in ROH. He beat his superiority over your head with his "I'm better than you" tag line. (that said, it worked great for his feud with Raven.) In this instance, he reminds me of early milk-drinkin' Kurt Angle, but without the cheesiness that harmed Kurt's character. Punk believes what he says, and conveys it to the crowd in a "you people should know better" kind of way that I find very convincing.
 
I'm going to miss half of raw tonight....but I could care less - I'M WAITING FOR SATURDAY MORNING!!!! (Like I"m going to watch Smackdown on a friday night...lawd...hulu will do the job for me!)
 
I want a t-shirt that says "CM Punk is right".

So they have him cut a defining promo and then drop the belt the same night. Brilliant.
 
[quote name='TNAWrestlingNews.com']Nightmare on Elm Street actor Robert Englund ("Freddy Kruger") was at the San Diego Comic Con over the weekend and told people that WWE has contacted him to guest host an upcoming edition of Raw.[/quote]

Now that's a guest host I would mark my calendar for.
 
So Shaq is on Raw tonight...looks like King of the Hill again for me.

EDIT: Aw, come on.

- It is being reported that Vince McMahon was very upset backstage with the Chris Jericho and Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase match at Night of Champions. McMahon was said to have a "throwing down his headset" moment and was not pleased with the in-ring action, saying it failed to get the crowd hot for the rest of the event.

- The original plan was for Dolph Ziggler to defeat Rey Mysterio and become the new Intercontinental Champion, but WWE creative team changed the finish late Sunday afternoon.

Credit: F4WOnline.com
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This was an awesome weekend for wrestling at Comic Con. My suite at the Hard Rock was right above the TNA ring. I took a couple of photos while they were planning out the match early in the evening:

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The actual match was amazing to watch from that vantage point.

I also ran into Daniels on the floor of the Con:

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And Shelly Martinez:

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More details to come on our post-SDCC podcast, which should be up tomorrow or Wednesday.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Now that's a guest host I would mark my calendar for.[/QUOTE]

If Kane were still on RAW I'd say a boiler room match could take place.

[quote name='Mr. Beef']So Shaq is on Raw tonight...looks like King of the Hill again for me.

EDIT: Aw, come on.[/QUOTE]

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- It is being reported that Vince McMahon was very upset backstage with the Chris Jericho and Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase match at Night of Champions. McMahon was said to have a "throwing down his headset" moment and was not pleased with the in-ring action, saying it failed to get the crowd hot for the rest of the event.

- The original plan was for Dolph Ziggler to defeat Rey Mysterio and become the new Intercontinental Champion, but WWE creative team changed the finish late Sunday afternoon.

Credit: F4WOnline.com
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When was the last time big show ever created any type of real heat. Vince should've known better. The Jericho/Big Show combo felt like one of those last minute decisions. Big Show just got done jobbing to Cena for 2 months then came off the rails after a double count-out to Kofi. With this kind of move they could've easliy put Chavo in big shows spot.
 
If he actually listened to and understood his crowd, he wouldn't be pissed.

They act like they listen to what the crowd wants, but we all know that's absolute, unadulterated nonsense. Having a temper tantrum because things don't go according to your expectations show that you view the world the way you want to, with no regard for what the crowd actually wants. This episode, if true, shows the genuine contempt McMahon has for an audience that doesn't fall in line with his vision, with his interests.

fuck, we all saw that when he stopped running ECW on a separate touring circuit, when he pulled back on running ECW to "ECW crowds" because he wanted the comfort of a crowd that would cheer for what he wanted them to cheer for, instead of being STUPID enough to run Batista versus Big Show in the Hammerstein Ballroom. That would be like Gabe Sapolsky running John Cena versus Vince Russo in an ROH ring.

I know he loves to use "carry the ball"/"take their ball and go home" metaphors; but this sonofabitch is the biggest fucking crybaby infant imaginable if he can't stomach the crowd not reacting to something in the way he wants. IT'S HIS fuckING JOB TO ADAPT THE SHOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

How hard is it for him to understand his own job? FFS, Vince.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If he actually listened to and understood his crowd, he wouldn't be pissed.

They act like they listen to what the crowd wants, but we all know that's absolute, unadulterated nonsense. Having a temper tantrum because things don't go according to your expectations show that you view the world the way you want to, with no regard for what the crowd actually wants. This episode, if true, shows the genuine contempt McMahon has for an audience that doesn't fall in line with his vision, with his interests.

fuck, we all saw that when he stopped running ECW on a separate touring circuit, when he pulled back on running ECW to "ECW crowds" because he wanted the comfort of a crowd that would cheer for what he wanted them to cheer for, instead of being STUPID enough to run Batista versus Big Show in the Hammerstein Ballroom. That would be like Gabe Sapolsky running John Cena versus Vince Russo in an ROH ring.

I know he loves to use "carry the ball"/"take their ball and go home" metaphors; but this sonofabitch is the biggest fucking crybaby infant imaginable if he can't stomach the crowd not reacting to something in the way he wants. IT'S HIS fuckING JOB TO ADAPT THE SHOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

How hard is it for him to understand his own job? FFS, Vince.[/QUOTE]

you're talking about a guy in his mid 60's that still attempts to wrestle at times and thinks that HE is what people wanna pay to see, there is no and i mean absolutely no reason to ever think vince would care about fans... because of the small section of fanbase that does follow what he expects, seriously, big show... they couldve gone in 100 directions and they went with the fuckin' big show?!?!?! needless to say im not surprised the crowd reacted with a resounding "meh" attitude.

but vince will be vince until he dies, alot of his son-in-law being shoved down our throats and the occasional run in by shane and vince.

sorry myke, i may have completly missed your point there, but whatevs
 
Awesome ComicCon pictrues, BigHow! I'm jealous.

I doubt most people care, but here's the listing for the 3 disc Batista DVD set:

- Silvervision has released the following match listing for the WWE's Batista: I Walk Alone 3 DVD set:

DISC ONE:
Batista profile documentary with the following chapters:

• Moving Around

• High School

• Bouncer

• Meets Angie

• Career Decision

• Wild Samoan Training Center

• Leviathan

• Deacon Batista

• Evolution

• Winning the Game

• Family Issues

• Welcome to SmackDown

• Tribute to Eddie

• Philippines Star

• Relinquishes the Championship

• The Royal Treatment

• Phenomenal Experience

• On the Edge of Greatness

• Show Stopping Moment

• Celebrity Unleashed

• Batista – The Animal

Bonus Features

• Hot Bread and Butter

• Batista's Rough Neighborhood

• The Biggest Lifeguard at the Pool

• Leviathan: Demon of the Ohio River

• The Animal's New Suit

• Dave Meets Alonzo Mourning

• Respect for Eddie

• A Gift for Chavo

• Eddie's Advice

• Batista's Lunchbox Collection


DISC TWO:
OVW Heavyweight Championship Match
Leviathan vs. "The Machine" Doug Basham
Ohio Valley Wrestling – November 28, 2001

Batista vs. Kane
Armageddon – December 15, 2002

Batista vs. Shawn Michaels
Armageddon – December 14, 2003

World Tag Team Championship Tables Match
Batista & Ric Flair vs. The Dudley Boyz
Royal Rumble – January 25, 2004

Batista vs. Chris Jericho
Vengeance – July 11, 2004

30-Man Royal Rumble Match
Royal Rumble – January 30, 2005

World Heavyweight Championship Match
Batista vs. Triple H
WrestleMania 21 – April 3, 2005

Hell in a Cell Match for the World Heavyweight Championship
Batista vs. Triple H
Vengeance – June 26, 2005

No Holds Barred Match for the World Heavyweight Championship
Batista vs. JBL
SummerSlam – August 21, 2005

World Heavyweight Championship Match
Batista vs. Eddie Guerrero
No Mercy – October 9, 2005


DISC THREE:
World Heavyweight Championship Match
Batista vs. King Booker
Survivor Series – November 26, 2006

Triple Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship
Batista vs. King Booker vs. Finlay
Smackdown! – December 1, 2006

World Heavyweight Championship Match
Batista vs. The Undertaker
WrestleMania 23 – April 1, 2007

Steel Cage Match for the World Heavyweight Championship
Batista vs. Edge
One Night Stand – June 3, 2007

World Heavyweight Championship w/ Special Referee "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
Batista vs. The Undertaker
Cyber Sunday – October 28, 2007

6-Man Tag Team Match
Batista, Triple H & Ric Flair vs. Randy Orton, Edge, & Umaga
Raw – December 10, 2007

Batista vs. John Cena
SummerSlam – August 17, 2008

Batista vs. Randy Orton
Armageddon – December 14, 2008

Also, there's a poll on WWE.com regarding a new JoMo t-shirt. 3 and 4 don't look so terrible:

http://poll.wwe.com/johnmorrison2/
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[quote name='cdubb1605']you're talking about a guy in his mid 60's that still attempts to wrestle at times and thinks that HE is what people wanna pay to see, there is no and i mean absolutely no reason to ever think vince would care about fans... because of the small section of fanbase that does follow what he expects, seriously, big show... they couldve gone in 100 directions and they went with the fuckin' big show?!?!?! needless to say im not surprised the crowd reacted with a resounding "meh" attitude.

but vince will be vince until he dies, alot of his son-in-law being shoved down our throats and the occasional run in by shane and vince.

sorry myke, i may have completly missed your point there, but whatevs[/QUOTE]
what would we do w/o the great Shane-O-Mac segments. If only Vince would allow him to come out & hop around like a kangaroo more the ratings would surely go through the roof.

The punk heel turn is one of the more entertaining things going on in the wwe right now. But it makes you wonder what they're trying to do w/ Hardy. Dragging one of their most popular wrestlers(especially w/ younger fans) through the mud can't nessecarily be good for business. Unless they're gonna use his taking time off & write it in as a "going rehab storyline".
 
Was this Jericho/Show team thrown together at the last minute or something? It seems so bizarre.
 
I have no doubt that Shaq will make it entertaining if allowed.

I'm hoping he drops one of those raps on Cena like he did on Kobe a year or so ago. :lol:
 
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