[quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='defender']same old bullshit...
Hereticked if you are so damn smart then what's the solution?
People are always so shaq-fuing quick to denouce a plan but yet can't come up with one of their own. Cmon John Kerry FanBoy...wtf would you do?
Cmon...let's hear your bright idea.[/quote]
If I may help out Hereticked here (not that he seems to need my help)...
1. Get a UN force in charge of security in Iraq. As long as there is an American face on the occupying army, they are going to be huge targets for any resistance. But before we can do that we need to...
2. Repair our relations with the UN and foreign nations. Bush has burned all his bridges internationally except for England. At this point I don't know if he could restore good will. The quickest way to do this would be a regime change here with a president who will build bridges instead of burning them.
3. Use the troops we remove from Iraq to hunt for bin Laden THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY ATTACKED US. We took some of the best and brightest we had in Afghanistan and sent them to Iraq to look for the mysterious WMD's.
4. Lean heavily on the Saudis to police their own country and round up the extremists there where the vast majority of 9/11 terrorists were from.
5. Put the screws to both Israel and the Palestinians to resolve their conflict and add some stability to the region. Not saying it would be easy, but it beats doing nothing.
6. (Get ready to roll your eyes, Fox News Kool-Aid drinkers) Encourage the development of higher mileage vehicles and raise gasoline taxes to promote less dependence on foreign oil. Otherwise we are going to keep getting dragged into these messes in the Middle East every decade until they run dry.
7. Have a truly bipartisan cabinet to try to get the country away from the constant Red vs. Blue bickering that gets nothing accomplished.
I'd also normalize relations with Cuba, raise the minimum wage, push for an end to the electoral college, have life without parole instead of the death penalty, legalize gay marriage, offer incentives for companies to give more vacation time, and establish a national health care system.
Then for my second 100 days...[/quote]
1. The UN is a weak ass piece of shit. Basically they would need the USA to enforce anything anyways. So why should we put out troops in the hands of the UN? Is it better they get ordered around by UN officials than US Generals? I think not.
2. Who cares? Does it really matter that a few ass countries don't like us? Personally I never liked the French and they havent really liked us in a long time. They didnt want to go to war in Iraq NOT because they didnt like BUSH...but because they dont like US.
3. Actually finding Bin Laden is really important. But you would still complain if we spent 80 Billion Dollars looking for ONE man instead of helping an entire country. I think the money is better spent helping build democracy in the middle east. It might work...and it might not. But its worth a shot.
4. I think we already do this. This suggestion seems rather vague to me...maybe you can be more specific on how we should "lean" on the Saudis without pissing them off or hurting Oil prices even more.
5. It's been tried by ever President. It doesnt work. Bush seemed to have tried harder than Clinton. He had that whole Road Map thing that seemed to be a plan at least for them to follow. Of course neither of them could follow through but Bush made a good plan and they did agree. Clintons Camp David accords were crapped on.
6. I 100% agree with you. I won't say shit.
7. This won't ever happen at least as far as I can see.
On Cuba--yeah sure.
On Min wage...nope not yet...maybe 3 years from now.
On Gay Marriage... NO WAY...it will be the end of this country if it happens.
Death Penalty = Justice
National Health Care= Yes 100% agree...we are far behind the rest of the civilized world on this one.
On More Vacation Time - Why? Are you lazy and you need more vacations? Go to the France where you can only work 30 hours a week or you are breaking the law. Yeah...that's true. We should all work 6 days and 60 hours a week imho.
Well that's about all I can say at 3AM. Let the flames begin. Also everything you say will fall on deaf ears. You won't convince me from anything I already believe. I just want you to know this while you type out your reply.
Hereticked if you are so damn smart then what's the solution?
People are always so shaq-fuing quick to denouce a plan but yet can't come up with one of their own. Cmon John Kerry FanBoy...wtf would you do?
Cmon...let's hear your bright idea.[/quote]
If I may help out Hereticked here (not that he seems to need my help)...
1. Get a UN force in charge of security in Iraq. As long as there is an American face on the occupying army, they are going to be huge targets for any resistance. But before we can do that we need to...
2. Repair our relations with the UN and foreign nations. Bush has burned all his bridges internationally except for England. At this point I don't know if he could restore good will. The quickest way to do this would be a regime change here with a president who will build bridges instead of burning them.
3. Use the troops we remove from Iraq to hunt for bin Laden THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY ATTACKED US. We took some of the best and brightest we had in Afghanistan and sent them to Iraq to look for the mysterious WMD's.
4. Lean heavily on the Saudis to police their own country and round up the extremists there where the vast majority of 9/11 terrorists were from.
5. Put the screws to both Israel and the Palestinians to resolve their conflict and add some stability to the region. Not saying it would be easy, but it beats doing nothing.
6. (Get ready to roll your eyes, Fox News Kool-Aid drinkers) Encourage the development of higher mileage vehicles and raise gasoline taxes to promote less dependence on foreign oil. Otherwise we are going to keep getting dragged into these messes in the Middle East every decade until they run dry.
7. Have a truly bipartisan cabinet to try to get the country away from the constant Red vs. Blue bickering that gets nothing accomplished.
I'd also normalize relations with Cuba, raise the minimum wage, push for an end to the electoral college, have life without parole instead of the death penalty, legalize gay marriage, offer incentives for companies to give more vacation time, and establish a national health care system.
Then for my second 100 days...[/quote]
1. The UN is a weak ass piece of shit. Basically they would need the USA to enforce anything anyways. So why should we put out troops in the hands of the UN? Is it better they get ordered around by UN officials than US Generals? I think not.
2. Who cares? Does it really matter that a few ass countries don't like us? Personally I never liked the French and they havent really liked us in a long time. They didnt want to go to war in Iraq NOT because they didnt like BUSH...but because they dont like US.
3. Actually finding Bin Laden is really important. But you would still complain if we spent 80 Billion Dollars looking for ONE man instead of helping an entire country. I think the money is better spent helping build democracy in the middle east. It might work...and it might not. But its worth a shot.
4. I think we already do this. This suggestion seems rather vague to me...maybe you can be more specific on how we should "lean" on the Saudis without pissing them off or hurting Oil prices even more.
5. It's been tried by ever President. It doesnt work. Bush seemed to have tried harder than Clinton. He had that whole Road Map thing that seemed to be a plan at least for them to follow. Of course neither of them could follow through but Bush made a good plan and they did agree. Clintons Camp David accords were crapped on.
6. I 100% agree with you. I won't say shit.
7. This won't ever happen at least as far as I can see.
On Cuba--yeah sure.
On Min wage...nope not yet...maybe 3 years from now.
On Gay Marriage... NO WAY...it will be the end of this country if it happens.
Death Penalty = Justice
National Health Care= Yes 100% agree...we are far behind the rest of the civilized world on this one.
On More Vacation Time - Why? Are you lazy and you need more vacations? Go to the France where you can only work 30 hours a week or you are breaking the law. Yeah...that's true. We should all work 6 days and 60 hours a week imho.
Well that's about all I can say at 3AM. Let the flames begin. Also everything you say will fall on deaf ears. You won't convince me from anything I already believe. I just want you to know this while you type out your reply.