What ethnicity do you prefer?

[quote name='epobirs']This is simply untrue. While archaic in some places, the term simply means anything originating from East of Europe as it was regarded a few centuries ago. Before the compass became a common item and made the magnetic North Pole the fixed point for navigation, most maps were drawn with East at the top, serving as the direction by which someone using the map placed themselves in relation to the rest of the world. Thus East aka the Orient, was the source for the other meaning of the word 'orient' in terms of fixing your position either geographically or psychologically.

So there is nothing inherently offensive about calling someone of an ethnicity tracing to the classic Orient an oriental. It is just people making up silly reasons to be offended. The worst offense is that it lumps a massive portion of the world and a myriad set of distinct (at least from their perspective) peoples under a blanket term.

You might as well get upset about the words 'man' and 'woman' because those divide the species into two group by gender. Yes, I know there are actual people that get incensed over those terms but this is why we have psychiatric medicine.[/quote]

First of all East of what? Why the US of A of course. It is considered offensive because it refers to things AND people of the East implying that the US is the center of the world which is both literally and metaphorically impossible. Its like getting upset because males are referred to as "men" and females are referred to as "persons other than men".

As for the chart its also offensive because for the last decade or more IQ has been seen as almost completely irrelevant to ones intelligence (lets post some phrenology charts while were at it) and the chart also says nothing about the education and test taking prep a person has been exposed to. It's not surprising that predominantly African Americans schools are considerably underfunded, over crowded, outdated, poor etc.
 
[quote name='rumarudrathas']Before I go to bed, I gotta share something with you guys.

Being in an Interracial relationship is pretty weird at times. I live and go to college here in Tampa (hint at which one: Go Bulls!), and being in this part of Florida, We usually get around UNharassed. But last summer, me and my fiance drove to the New Jersey coast (stopping by Otakon on the way), and walking around around her father's neighborhood, I have gotten a bit more stares whispering that I could ever care for.

Maybe I was imagining it, or maybe they were trying to figure out what I was (depending on the day, I look a bit more latino/cubano or a bit more asian-esque). I shrugged it off most of the time, and ever once and again, I get that feeling that whenever we go out to public together, someone near me is thinking "oh why is that white girl dating that (insert racial slur here)".

Eh, you white people made me a bit paranoid :p[/quote]

I always worry people stare too. I hate it, but you get use to it. I stopped caring about that (most of the time). It was great in Cali though, me and my ex would walk around, and I felt so comfortable, but I'm kinda worried when he comes to Mississippi how it's going to be.
 
[quote name='gareman']Oriental is not acceptable it is derogatory when referring a race of people. Is this the UK?[/QUOTE]

Go read the relevant posts again. We were talking about the chart.


[quote name='DarlingNina']I think my crazy fluctuates. Sometimes it's from the waste down and sometimes it's from the waste up. If it's the waste up, my right hand is the nice hand.[/QUOTE]

The funny thing is, this post can make sense even with "waste" instead of "waist".
 
[quote name='DarlingNina']I think my crazy fluctuates. Sometimes it's from the waste down and sometimes it's from the waste up. If it's the waste up, my right hand is the nice hand.[/QUOTE]

The funny thing is, this post can make sense even with "waste" instead of "waist".
 
Only in the land of PC nonsense, America (well, and America Jr., Canada), is "Oriental" offensive. "Oriental", a person from the Orient, which, last time I checked, still exists.
 
[quote name='Mad D']Hows that work? I know during the winter if I avoid the sun I look at pale as those Korean soap opera people do, but during the summer if I don't stay in the shade I get 5 shades darker and look like I came straight from the island.[/quote]

I get crazy facial hair, believe it or not. If I don't shave after a couple of days, the black 'stache and beard comes out and apparently that gives me that "look".
 
[quote name='rickonker']Go read the relevant posts again. We were talking about the chart.




The funny thing is, this post can make sense even with "waste" instead of "waist".[/quote]

:lol:

Give me a break, I'm trying to do a million things at once. :p
 
[quote name='DarlingNina']:lol:

Give me a break, I'm trying to do a million things at once. :p[/QUOTE]
Is that why you had "waste" on the brain? :shock:
 
[quote name='rickonker']Go read the relevant posts again. We were talking about the chart.[/quote]


I know you were talking about the chart...

What about my post was not "relevant" . You were getting defensive about people questioning the fact that the chart used the term "oriental" and saying that it is still acceptable in the Uk and other places. My relevant point was that it is offensive in American culture now and has been for the 10 or 15 years.

$$$$$$ is acceptable term in some South American countries and cultures, but would I be shocked if I posted a chart that used the term $$$ got especially when it is of unknown origin were the purpose of the chart seems to uphold homosexual stereotypes. No I wouldn't because I posted it on primarily American message board where $$$ got is an offesive term. That is why I asked if this was the UK.

Also even if the origin of this chart is the UK I doubt any reputtable researcher is going to use the slang term orential on published data.

I told people why Orential is seen as offensive yet no one responed to my argument. Who cares if it's exceptable in Canada or the UK that has nothing to do with the argument against the use of the word.

That's like being racist and ignoring arguments against it and talking about how loving and smart Ghandi was and saying that he made racist comments so its ok to be racist.
 
[quote name='gareman']I know you were talking about the chart...

What about my post was not "relevant" . [/quote]I wasn't talking about your post.
You were getting defensive about people questioning the fact that the chart used the term "oriental" and saying that it is still acceptable in the Uk and other places. My relevant point was that it is offensive in American culture now and has been for the 10 or 15 years.
This is why I told you to read the relevant posts again. I already addressed this.

$$$$$$ is acceptable term in some South American countries and cultures, but would I be shocked if I posted a chart that used the term $$$ got especially when it is of unknown origin were the purpose of the chart seems to uphold homosexual stereotypes. No I wouldn't because I posted it on primarily American message board where $$$ got is an offesive term. That is why I asked if this was the UK.
All I see are dollar signs.

Also even if the origin of this chart is the UK I doubt any reputtable researcher is going to use the slang term orential on published data.

I told people why Orential is seen as offensive yet no one responed to my argument. Who cares if it's exceptable in Canada or the UK that has nothing to do with the argument against the use of the word.

That's like being racist and ignoring arguments against it and talking about how loving and smart Ghandi was and saying that he made racist comments so its ok to be racist.

That doesn't make any sense. I don't think you understand the origin of the word "Oriental" if you think it came from the US. Oh, and if you're really worried about not offending people, you might want to spell Gandhi's name correctly.












[quote name='gareman']First of all East of what? Why the US of A of course. It is considered offensive because it refers to things AND people of the East implying that the US is the center of the world which is both literally and metaphorically impossible. [/quote]

The post you quoted says, "East of Europe". It's even in your post right now. And your reply is, "East of what? Why the US of A of course."...

As for the chart its also offensive because for the last decade or more IQ has been seen as almost completely irrelevant to ones intelligence (lets post some phrenology charts while were at it) and the chart also says nothing about the education and test taking prep a person has been exposed to. It's not surprising that predominantly African Americans schools are considerably underfunded, over crowded, outdated, poor etc.

:lol: You find facts offensive? Instead of arguing with the chart, you could have said something about how the chart shows that the schools you mentioned are poor and the people who go to them need more attention and help. But no...
 
[quote name='gareman']First of all East of what? Why the US of A of course. It is considered offensive because it refers to things AND people of the East implying that the US is the center of the world which is both literally and metaphorically impossible. Its like getting upset because males are referred to as "men" and females are referred to as "persons other than men".

As for the chart its also offensive because for the last decade or more IQ has been seen as almost completely irrelevant to ones intelligence (lets post some phrenology charts while were at it) and the chart also says nothing about the education and test taking prep a person has been exposed to. It's not surprising that predominantly African Americans schools are considerably underfunded, over crowded, outdated, poor etc.[/quote]

Actually IQ is a very strong psychometric construct. Lots of validation studies and reliability studies ever since it was written.. lots of revisions for "cultural sensitivity" as well. Obviously, it's designed to measure general intelligence, or "q", while avoiding the impact from education.

The bottom line is that the order is accurate. However you want to justify or discredit it is up to you... but you still have to accept it as fact.
 
[quote name='DarlingNina']I've never seen a Korean show, but my mom's family sounds kind of nuts to me. My grandma on my mom's side was actually nice. My dad said she was the only one that ever treated him kindly. However, everyone pretty much treated her like shit (except my mom). She was basically a maid to her husband. My mom's dad was a creep. I don't know if he's dead or not, I don't think so because my aunt would probably have called my mom.

He's the only family member I down right despise. He was very wealthy in Korea. A multimillionaire over there. He owned a lot of land which he would lease and a concrete company. He bribed my mother to leave my dad when I was in the 6th grade. Him and my grandma visited once when I was in the 4th grade. My mom gave him a camcorder as a gift. My dad told me (as an adult) that my mom's dad said he didn't want to record me or my sister because he wouldn't be able to show it to his friends, and he would be embarrassed.

My uncle use to beat on my mother, which is how she met my dad because she ran away from home and my dad gave her money to get back home when she ran out of money. My mom's dad eventually started going senile and started cheating on my grandmother. However, he couldn't even take care of himself (he had to wear diapers). His son eventually spent all their money and they went bankrupt (karma is a bitch). My mom is crazy on an almost daily basis. I love her, but sometimes I wonder what is up with her. Anyways, that's our drama. I'm sure I would make a drama filled korean show with that.[/quote]


damn and i used to complain about how i grew up shesh. that would make for a good korean drama though. sorry to hear about what you and your mom went through hope things are much better for you all now. btw i appreciate your sharing you story like that. im always curious about diff cultures and its always cool to see things from the other side. damn korean dramas are seriously addictive and the more i see them the more i get curious about the culture.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Actually IQ is a very strong psychometric construct. Lots of validation studies and reliability studies ever since it was written.. lots of revisions for "cultural sensitivity" as well. Obviously, it's designed to measure general intelligence, or "q", while avoiding the impact from education.

The bottom line is that the order is accurate. However you want to justify or discredit it is up to you... but you still have to accept it as fact.[/quote]

Many people (not me) discredit the concept of psychometric altogether but when it comes to IQ I do due to the idea of trying to create a man-made objective scale to a test human intelligence as a single entity or driving force to the subjective abstract concept of intelligence. Also test anxiety is huge a problem for many people and IQ test (as far as I know) pretty much needs to be in a test format. Not to mention IQ says nothing about what someone does with a high or a low IQ thus to me the concept is meaningless. It cannot be known by a person and it never be utilized by a person on both sides of the spectrum so it seems kind of pointless to me.




Also I did spell Gandhi wrong. My point is moot.



Believe it or not I do know where the word Oriental (as it is used now) comes from. Oriental came from European traders visiting Asia, or to them, the far east. If i remember correctly journals that were sent back to Europe from the travelers and traders referred to them as Orientals. Perhaps I should have said East of what? European countries.

But I dont know I did spell Gandhi wrong.
 
[quote name='lokizz']damn and i used to complain about how i grew up shesh. that would make for a good korean drama though. sorry to hear about what you and your mom went through hope things are much better for you all now. btw i appreciate your sharing you story like that. im always curious about diff cultures and its always cool to see things from the other side. damn korean dramas are seriously addictive and the more i see them the more i get curious about the culture.[/quote]

I bothered me for a bit, but I got over it. They're in S. Korea, and my family is here. I don't too much care for my dad's side of the family either. I might have to start checking out these Korean dramas though. :p
 
I'm white and I am attracted to all kinds of women, don't really have a preference. In high school I dated a white girl and now I've been dating a Mexican girl for almost 2 years now.
 
[quote name='DarlingNina']I bothered me for a bit, but I got over it. They're in S. Korea, and my family is here. I don't too much care for my dad's side of the family either. I might have to start checking out these Korean dramas though. :p[/quote]

heres 2 good places to check out asian dramas.

http://www.mysoju.com/


http://www.viikii.net/


the first link has dramas and movies in it and other is mostly dramas i believe. watching these things it really shows you how shitty tv in america has become.
 
I'll date any one as color doesn't mean much to me. Attitude however is a huge problem amongst black women "had black friends tell me they're trash" and white women who can say the most batshit insane crap and still have people believe them because I'm an EVIL MEXICAN and you can't trust dem dur colored folk. It's more of a person by person basis rather then just preferring a set hue.
 
black women... is my preference.


But a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman. I wanted to hook up with this girl Melania she was from the Honduras. She was fine! I do tend to like Colombian women and black Cuban women (hard to find). Sexy and Sassy!
 
I'm white. I started out dating only white girls but since moving to the Bay Area I've discovered it's not quite so simple anymore. I still date white girls, but have added a number of Taiwanese girls to the mix, as well as a couple of Latina/white mixes. Amazing how much location can change someone's proclivities.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']black women... is my preference.[/quote]

This?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vV8DAsyHRA[/media]
 
most ethnicities have dark hair / eyes.. which isn't bad, but it's nice to have variation. white girls tend to have more variation.
 
[quote name='gareman']What about my post was not "relevant" . You were getting defensive about people questioning the fact that the chart used the term "oriental" and saying that it is still acceptable in the Uk and other places. My relevant point was that it is offensive in American culture now and has been for the 10 or 15 years.[/QUOTE]

So what? The study probably used data from before the time that "Oriental" became politically incorrect.
 
There should be a thread to discuss the ethnicity that you would like to "try out" - I'd like a nice lil asian tenderoni
 
[quote name='Thomas96']There should be a thread to discuss the ethnicity that you would like to "try out" - I'd like a nice lil asian tenderoni[/quote]

:roll:

People aren't cars. :p
 
[quote name='DarlingNina']:roll:

People aren't cars. :p[/quote]

But you can use them just like cars... it may be right, or it may be wrong, but it's still possible and happens every day.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']There should be a thread to discuss the ethnicity that you would like to "try out" - I'd like a nice lil asian tenderoni[/QUOTE]

I'd try one of everything. ;)
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']But you can use them just like cars... it may be right, or it may be wrong, but it's still possible and happens every day.[/quote]

True.
 
[quote name='DarlingNina']:roll:

People aren't cars. :p[/quote]

Some people love to be treated like cars. They love the rough off road roughriding, while others love the riding in a peaceful area. Others still love to have premium fluids enter them and have all sorts of colors and hues to decorate themselves with.

I want a girl that knows how to make steak rare with an exquisite flavor.
 
[quote name='Paco']Some people love to be treated like cars. They love the rough off road roughriding, while others love the riding in a peaceful area. Others still love to have premium fluids enter them and have all sorts of colors and hues to decorate themselves with.

I want a girl that knows how to make steak rare with an exquisite flavor.[/quote]

I don't like rare steaks. Unless it's a tu... never mind. :p
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']So what? The study probably used data from before the time that "Oriental" became politically incorrect.[/quote]


well for one the categories are not correct black is a race? Furthermore African black is a different race from plain black. Then the whites ( I assume that means both European and American?) race then the race of Orientals (eastern Asians, Indians, middle eastern people who knows??!?!) ? Its garbage.

The book is garbage and this data is from the mid 90s.

Not only are the categories completely vague and general but its completely narrow perspective on the diversity of human races. Also as we look more and more into genetics we are beginning to see how race is an aesthetic and social construct.
 
Why the hell do I keep thinking of Fatal Frame when looking at Nina's icon? But I can find fault with every race

Black girls got too much attitude and too much god damn self esteem. I have never in my life seen a woman have the sheer audacity of a black woman. I once seen a black woman that's about 5'4 300 lbs wear a mini skirt, pumps and still think she's hot. I wish I had that kind of courage.

White women are batshit insane and can make the most outlandish shit up and people will listen to her every word if you're a minority and she's pointing the finger at you. This is magnified by TEN if you're black or Hispanic.

Mexican women watch too many damn soap operas and will willingly sabotage a relationship just to have the opportunity to sleep with a guy named Fernando.

Asian women always measure someone only by their job and not who they are and that bothers the hell out of me.

Italian women have Italian parents, and Italian Parents have Italian family, and Italian family tends to always have someone in the mafia. Tangle with them and BOOM. When you break up with the girl, you're gonna get a visit from a guy in a trench coat shooting you in the gut and saying "IN YOUR EAR"
 
[quote name='Paco']Why the hell do I keep thinking of Fatal Frame when looking at Nina's icon? But I can find fault with every race

Black girls got too much attitude and too much god damn self esteem. I have never in my life seen a woman have the sheer audacity of a black woman. I once seen a black woman that's about 5'4 300 lbs wear a mini skirt, pumps and still think she's hot. I wish I had that kind of courage.

White women are batshit insane and can make the most outlandish shit up and people will listen to her every word if you're a minority and she's pointing the finger at you. This is magnified by TEN if you're black or Hispanic.

Mexican women watch too many damn soap operas and will willingly sabotage a relationship just to have the opportunity to sleep with a guy named Fernando.

Asian women always measure someone only by their job and not who they are and that bothers the hell out of me.

Italian women have Italian parents, and Italian Parents have Italian family, and Italian family tends to always have someone in the mafia. Tangle with them and BOOM. When you break up with the girl, you're gonna get a visit from a guy in a trench coat shooting you in the gut and saying "IN YOUR EAR"[/quote]

:rofl:

It's true, there's something that's wrong with every group out there. I haven't been fortunate enough to date someone from every group (yet). I've dated a bazillion white guys, and 1 half asian/half white guy (looks 100% asian and identifies himself with asians). I'm willing to date other groups just haven't found any that I liked enough to date.

My avatar is from the movie Battle Royale.
 
Yes there's something wrong with EVERY damn race, but if I had to choose one for being the most boring group, I'd have to choose WHITE people. GOD they can be so fucking boring, that I want to shoot myself sometimes. And the way some of them talk makes me want to headbutt them. "Excellent, Wonderful. Non Dairy Creamer, Do you accept credit cards, Non Alcoholic beer." God just shoot me. And that's if you didn't meat the ones fabricating batshit insane crap like how you eye raped her with your testicular vision and that your blank scare raped her in ways that she dare not imagine. Seriously. It's a dangerous combo with pure boredom and outlandish bullshit.

At least with black people, the danger is easy to avoid as it tends to be more physical and verbal with the OH NO U DIDN'T and MMMHMMMMMMM with the gaggle of hens all talking about how empowered they are while sucking the government teet.

And Mexicans? Oh god. The amont of Drama they have is infuckingsane. There's a reason we're the masters of drama. We just make shit up as we go along just to start fights. My mom got in an argument with my dad because he's walking too slow, his mustache is too trimmed, he left his drink on the table, he was moving his feet like a baby. Her friend had a dream. They sometimes cause shit just for fun and to have something to yell about.

And my family thinks I'm weird for wanting to marry either an Asian girl or someone NOT Hispanic. The way that Hispanics fight over everything for no good reason and their love of drama and the fact that they watch more mundane shit that would confound even the biggest anime nerd would keep anyone hesitant. At least with Japan, you get those true WTF moments with Kancho, Rape Bus, Anus Bars, Karai Pantsu, Tiny cell phones, and dramas that tend to make more sense then Mexican arguments.

And George Lopez is right unfortunately. Too much of that crap he talks about is actually true. My family once watched someones car back into someone else's car without even bothering to help them. They just said HEY EVERYBODY WATCH THIS!

Oh god help me.
 
[quote name='Paco']Yes there's something wrong with EVERY damn race, but if I had to choose one for being the most boring group, I'd have to choose WHITE people. GOD they can be so fucking boring, that I want to shoot myself sometimes. And the way some of them talk makes me want to headbutt them. "Excellent, Wonderful. Non Dairy Creamer, Do you accept credit cards, Non Alcoholic beer." God just shoot me. And that's if you didn't meat the ones fabricating batshit insane crap like how you eye raped her with your testicular vision and that your blank scare raped her in ways that she dare not imagine. Seriously. It's a dangerous combo with pure boredom and outlandish bullshit.

At least with black people, the danger is easy to avoid as it tends to be more physical and verbal with the OH NO U DIDN'T and MMMHMMMMMMM with the gaggle of hens all talking about how empowered they are while sucking the government teet.

And Mexicans? Oh god. The amont of Drama they have is infuckingsane. There's a reason we're the masters of drama. We just make shit up as we go along just to start fights. My mom got in an argument with my dad because he's walking too slow, his mustache is too trimmed, he left his drink on the table, he was moving his feet like a baby. Her friend had a dream. They sometimes cause shit just for fun and to have something to yell about.

And my family thinks I'm weird for wanting to marry either an Asian girl or someone NOT Hispanic. The way that Hispanics fight over everything for no good reason and their love of drama and the fact that they watch more mundane shit that would confound even the biggest anime nerd would keep anyone hesitant. At least with Japan, you get those true WTF moments with Kancho, Rape Bus, Anus Bars, Karai Pantsu, Tiny cell phones, and dramas that tend to make more sense then Mexican arguments.

And George Lopez is right unfortunately. Too much of that crap he talks about is actually true. My family once watched someones car back into someone else's car without even bothering to help them. They just said HEY EVERYBODY WATCH THIS!

Oh god help me.[/quote]

Hmmm. You've been thinking about this for awhile huh. :p
 
[quote name='DarlingNina']Hmmm. You've been thinking about this for awhile huh. :p[/quote]

To some extent yes. If I'm going to be put with the problems of some race that I marry and all their looney bullshit, then I might as well chose the one that will cause social shock value. I rather eat an Anus Bar, drinking some shitty overpriced Final Fantasy potion while getting Kancho'd and have some Asian wife with freakish prettyboy fantasies about Squall then marry some mexican woman who's going to come after me with the knife when she finds out I was sleeping with her sister. At least with the Asian girl, if I do cheat on her, there's a better possibility of it ending up as a weird movie I can sell on the internet rather then me trying to disarm a crazy woman who's thinking about some Novella she saw yesterday and the passion there was in the killing. This will also happen because I found out she was cheating on me with my brother Fernando Martinez or my best friend Erick. There will also be some cheesy music in the background that changes while all this happens to enhance the plot turns that happen in this wacky ass marriage.
 
[quote name='Paco']To some extent yes. If I'm going to be put with the problems of some race that I marry and all their looney bullshit, then I might as well chose the one that will cause social shock value. I rather eat an Anus Bar, drinking some shitty overpriced Final Fantasy potion while getting Kancho'd and have some Asian wife with freakish prettyboy fantasies about Squall then marry some mexican woman who's going to come after me with the knife when she finds out I was sleeping with her sister. At least with the Asian girl, if I do cheat on her, there's a better possibility of it ending up as a weird movie I can sell on the internet rather then me trying to disarm a crazy woman who's thinking about some Novella she saw yesterday and the passion there was in the killing. This will also happen because I found out she was cheating on me with my brother Fernando Martinez or my best friend Erick. There will also be some cheesy music in the background that changes while all this happens to enhance the plot turns that happen in this wacky ass marriage.[/quote]

:rofl: I want to see one of those Novellas. If you do marry an Asian woman, watch out for the Korean ones. They've been known to be crazy too. ;) And what the hell is an anus bar!
 
[quote name='Paco']The way that Hispanics fight over everything for no good reason and their love of drama and the fact that they watch more mundane shit that would confound even the biggest anime nerd would keep anyone hesitant. At least with Japan, you get those true WTF moments with Kancho, Rape Bus, Anus Bars, Karai Pantsu, Tiny cell phones, and dramas that tend to make more sense then Mexican arguments.

And George Lopez is right unfortunately. Too much of that crap he talks about is actually true. My family once watched someones car back into someone else's car without even bothering to help them. They just said HEY EVERYBODY WATCH THIS!

Oh god help me.[/quote]

You should see us dominican people in the street when were either drunk or mad or both funny shit i swear.
 
Well, you can watch them if you switch the channel to Telemundo. I swear to god I've seen the same character fifty times. There is ALWAYS a guy named FERNANDO. There is ALWAYS a fat old guy who's bald but rich, and there is always hot women in it. Infact I've seen the same actor act FIVE different Fernandos in a three year period. And the Anus bar is from Mission Hill where one of the friends went to Japan and he brought his friends some trinkets like KARAI PANTSU and Anus bar. When Andy got the KARAI PANTSU his exact words were "Aww man. Can't I just have the anus bar?" But seriously, I know everyone is bat shit insane. It's just what brand of flavor I want my insanity to be in. Plus it's going to look pretty fun to be taking grief from a 5 ft Asian girl when I'm 6'7.
 
[quote name='dpgerard']You should see us dominican people in the street when were either drunk or mad or both funny shit i swear.[/quote]

my uncle fought with a tree when he was drunk. He claimed that the tree punched him as he was lying down on the ground saying that they hit him incredibly hard.
 
[quote name='Paco']Well, you can watch them if you switch the channel to Telemundo. I swear to god I've seen the same character fifty times. There is ALWAYS a guy named FERNANDO. There is ALWAYS a fat old guy who's bald but rich, and there is always hot women in it. Infact I've seen the same actor act FIVE different Fernandos in a three year period. And the Anus bar is from Mission Hill where one of the friends went to Japan and he brought his friends some trinkets like KARAI PANTSU and Anus bar. When Andy got the KARAI PANTSU his exact words were "Aww man. Can't I just have the anus bar?" But seriously, I know everyone is bat shit insane. It's just what brand of flavor I want my insanity to be in. Plus it's going to look pretty fun to be taking grief from a 5 ft Asian girl when I'm 6'7.[/QUOTE]
You forgot the whole shitload of backstabbing drama queens.
 
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