[quote name='HotShotX']If anyone is interested in starting (or already have) undead characters and getting Cheap Ass Corpses going, ColdShotX is level 3 and hunting for BRA!NZZZ!!!1 outside of Bale Mall in East Boundwood.
~HotShotX[/QUOTE]
I've got my ZOMBAY in Roachtown right now I got this human down to 3 health I think, but ran out of AP.
[quote name='The Crotch']Give us a link to your account so we can add you to our contacts/the Wiki.
And everybody take a look at the wiki so you can add all the clan members to the contact list, alright?[/QUOTE]
I'll do it in a day or two - once my IP hit count resets, I think I'm going to make a new character tomorrow. Mine's maxed out, and it won't be any fun if you guys are all restarting anyway.
Looks like Hallet is getting some attention from the zeds. There were around 7 outside when I just peeked out of Euty's to hack on a zombie near Pirrie Park.
BTW, hitting 2 times out of around 27 AP really sucks! I'll never level up at this rate.
shit i may be leaving ketchell bank sooner than i wanted to. theres a group of 21 zombies hanging around the zoo with a couple extra loose ones floating about. if you come around here be careful near the zoo you dont want to end up falling asleep over there. used 30 ap and only gained like 6 or 9 exp. i hate how that works. hopefully i can stay here long enough to buy the free roaming ability then ill head where you all are. question can zombies enter places through free roaming?
[quote name='lokizz']shit i may be leaving ketchell bank sooner than i wanted to. theres a group of 21 zombies hanging around the zoo with a couple extra loose ones floating about. if you come around here be careful near the zoo you dont want to end up falling asleep over there. used 30 ap and only gained like 6 or 9 exp. i hate how that works. hopefully i can stay here long enough to buy the free roaming ability then ill head where you all are. question can zombies enter places through free roaming?[/quote]
Zombies cannot use free running, and in fact cannot enter buildings with the doors closed unless they have memories of life (they cannot attack the doors, but it only takes one to open them if they have the ability)
Also, I'm updating the wiki page with confirmed zombie and Anti-PK kill counts for our members. So, if you kill a zombie/pker, copy and paste the in-game notification to this thread, and we'll update your kill count.
[quote name='ArthurDigbySellers']Looks like Hallet is getting some attention from the zeds. There were around 7 outside when I just peeked out of Euty's to hack on a zombie near Pirrie Park.
BTW, hitting 2 times out of around 27 AP really sucks! I'll never level up at this rate.[/quote]
Unless you've got a decent weapon with good accuracy, I would stick to finding first aid kits in the hospital and healing others (gives 5 XP per heal), that's how I started out, and depending on how effective my knife is (20% Acc, 2 Damage), I might return to doing the same.
Meanwhile, on the CAG Forums themselves, fellow CAS members began to recognize both HotShotX and The Crotch as the group's leaders. Crotch was chosen for his large amount of experience on Urban Dead; HotShotX for his rugged good looks and prowess in bed... I mean, for unifying the CAGs as an operational group and taking up a leadership role in helping others with the game.Unfortunately, The Crotch's own humbleness precludes him from pointing out to HotShotX that he is way, way, way-way-way cooler than him. And he's better at Starcraft. And he spends his spare time helping old ladies cross the street.
Also, I'll be on UD late tonight around 9pm-10pm EST to go hunting with 40-50 AP. If anyone's interested in joining/"sloppy seconds", feel free to tag along.
EDIT: Also, I'm thinking that once we take over the Hallett Building, we also set up the Auto Repair Shop as a secondary building/fall-back point/resource center, for the following reasons:
That way, we'd have 2 of the 3 Hospitals in the area as VSB safe havens/entry points, and both the Hallett Building and the Auto Shop as our fortified structures. Having the Auto Shop as a safe resource center for crowbars, fuel, toolboxes, and fireaxes could prove invaluable. I'll double check with the CFD to make sure we aren't stepping on any toes with this, as I'm sure they can just free run in from the Hospital or even the library.
[quote name='HotShotX']Unless you've got a decent weapon with good accuracy, I would stick to finding first aid kits in the hospital and healing others (gives 5 XP per heal), that's how I started out, and depending on how effective my knife is (20% Acc, 2 Damage), I might return to doing the same.[/quote]
What's stopping us from knifing and then healing one another over and over to milk XP?
[quote name='ArthurDigbySellers']What's stopping us from knifing and then healing one another over and over to milk XP?[/quote]
Combat (fighting them) - XP gained is equal to damage dealt for human-zombie combat. A bonus of 10 XP is granted when you kill your targets by reducing them to 0 HP. Combat is the main method of XP gain available to zombies. Combat (fighting your own) - Human-human or zombie-zombie combat earns half the normal rate described above (rounded down for odd amounts of damage)
Ok, so you would only earn half damage XP bonus for attacking another human, but would you still earn 5 XP per heal? Say I stab you with a knife and then turn around and heal you. I should receive 5 XP, right?
I also read that you can heal zombies. Since everyone pretty much takes potshots at lone zombies standing around, that could come in handy, and could also keep a lone zombie alive long enough for other CAS members to wail on it and earn XP.
[quote name='ArthurDigbySellers']Ok, so you would only earn half damage XP bonus for attacking another human, but would you still earn 5 XP per heal? Say I stab you with a knife and then turn around and heal you. I should receive 5 XP, right?[/quote]
Correct, but it's usually considered a dick move by the UD community. Not to mention that anyone else in the area might take it as a PK attempt and wail on you.
I don't know, I'd ask Crotch about the finer social interactions of UD. Personally, I'm against farming our own for XP.
Wiki is looking terrific, we just need a logo. I wasn't able to obtain the source files, so we would have to do some cropping of some sort. Cheapy said it's fine to edit it.
I chipped a zed's hp down to 34 in Pirrie Park, so someone try to finish him. If we all attack the same ones one of us could clean up on the finishing blow for major XP.
Whew. Good to see we're all still alive. A good 15 zombies in the area of Eutychian's and the Hallet. Plenty of targets for everyone.
Good to see Walrus is here - that's another high-level player to help out with things.
EXP farming is considered by many to be "bad form", but it's not super-taboo. Healing zombies is considered acceptable by many, but since they just get up again anyway, I prefer just to kill them and get the +10 EXP bonus. Less time spent looking for FAKs.
If anyone has another genny, set it up in the garage to our east. It will help us find fuel.
As a general rule to you guys, please stay out of churches. I don't want you to have a run-in with my zombie clan.
EDIT: It would be easier if you guys modified your Wiki kill-counts on your own, rather than posting in here that you got a kill...
I'm a doctor, so I'm planning to go the FAK route, at least in the beginning. Should I learn some more support-based skills, or should I start training for combat? In other words, should we each start by specializing in our own trades, or is it best for everyone to learn the same essential skills?
I'd say sticking to your trade's skills at first. Just because there seem to be bonuses when you use a skill that is specific to your class. For example, as a fireman i'm better at using the fire axe that someone else would be. I'd assume doctors are better at healing than other classes. What that means i don't know. Maybe you get more EXP for healing or maybe you heal for more HP than anyone else.
[quote name='homeland']I just turned into a zombie.. Is there anyway to turn back into a survivor?[/quote]Get someone to revive you. Cemetarys are usually revive points, along with other specific places.
[quote name='JolietJake']I'd say sticking to your trade's skills at first. Just because there seem to be bonuses when you use a skill that is specific to your class. For example, as a fireman i'm better at using the fire axe that someone else would be. I'd assume doctors are better at healing than other classes. What that means i don't know. Maybe you get more EXP for healing or maybe you heal for more HP than anyone else.[/quote]As a fireman you start with a +15% chance to hit using a fireaxe, because of your base skill in Axe Proficiency. The only real difference in characters is differing costs for different skills -- Military get their skill tree for only 75XP/ea but Science skills for 150XP and visa-versa. Civilians (like the fireman) get all skills for 100XP. Other than that, once you start to get some skills you're pretty much the same as everyone else.
[quote name='IvanHood']I'm a doctor, so I'm planning to go the FAK route, at least in the beginning. Should I learn some more support-based skills, or should I start training for combat? In other words, should we each start by specializing in our own trades, or is it best for everyone to learn the same essential skills?[/quote]
I suggest the following for everyone, regardless of class:
1. Is helpful so you dont have to guess who needs a heal, and wasting AP each time you guess wrong. 5HP per heal is adequate for now, and searching for FAKs in hospitals tends to yield one per 3-5 AP spent searching. You get 5 AP per heal, regardless of HP healed above zero, so I don't think improving it is necessary when you want good skills and XP.
2. Is flat out necessary to enter extremely heavily barricaded buildings and keeping your ass from getting chewed on when you log off.
3. Melee is the best way to go starting out, since you dont need to search for ammo, and you can have good accuracy and damage early on. Firearms take about 3 skills before they become good, and you still have to spend AP searching.
As for the Wiki Kill logs, I'd like to have each player paste the in-game notice about kills, because I'll copy and paste that into another log, and keep track of the clan's total kill record. To prevent clutter, you can always PM me the notice on CAG, instead of posting.
Homeland: If you're near us, I've got some revives on me.
Re: HotShot's suggestions. Skip diagnosis if you don't carry FAKs. If you carry guns, do not use them until you get some training - it's a waste of bullets. In full-on sieges, barricading is arguably more important than fighting. Getting axe proficiency is far more important than knife proficiency, as axes are just plain better. You can find axes in the garage just east of us.
HotShot: I'd rather modify my kill count on my own, if that's okay. It's just easier for me.
[quote name='JolietJake']I'd think a doctor would get some benefit to mdeical skills. Maybe more likely to find FAK or something. If not thats kind of retarded.[/quote]As stated before, your class impacts how easily you can get skills in each area. Soldiers get gun training easier than doctors, scientists can learn to revive easier than scouts, etc.
I understand what you mean, but what I was hoping to do was to have an elaborate log of each kill our group earns:
243: Ivan Hood kills Adam Corolla
244: Timur Leng kills a zombie
245: HotShotX kills a zombie
It might be kind of redundant, but yeah, I guess we could scrap the log or keep just a PK log, and everyone else can keep track of their own kill count on the Wiki.
I've made it to eastonwood, i'm right next door to you all at this point. I should be to darvall by tomarrow. I'll try to signal you all so that you don't mistake me for just another zombie.
[quote name='Technique']I set up a generator in the Auto Shop and I also got that zombie in the park down to 6HP.[/quote]
Sounds good, although until we get the Auto Shop barricaded properly, I don't think it's necessary to put fuel in the generator just yet. Since it marks the building yellow to everyone.
Looks like we've got a bit of a race to see who can get a free meal. Too bad I used up my AP earlier.
[quote name='Technique']I set up a generator in the Auto Shop and I also got that zombie in the park down to 6HP.[/quote]And with 10AP I only managed to hit him once and get him down to 3HP
[quote name='jer7583']I'm a zombie, should I be at Hallet/St. Eutys for revive?[/quote]Unless one of us (ie: Crotch) gets to you, your best bet is one of the Revive Points on the wiki and posting a request on the form.
Alright, I had thought maybe it would be safer to travel as a zombie and get revived here, but i'll look for one of those. I added everyone on the wiki to my contacts list.
Building colours? Not much. Deep-red text means that a building has been ruined. Ruined buildings can't be free-run in to, searched, or barricaded until they've been repaired. They can't be repaired if there are any zombies inside. Search for "pinatas" on the Wiki for a rather evil zombie trick on that one. A yellow background for the text means that there's a fueled-up generator inside.
So Arthur has a confirmed kill. I've updated the Wiki, and it looks like yukine and Technique are doing it as well for themselves. Which makes things easier for me.
So, that being the case. If you nab a zombie or kill a PKer, update your kill count on the clan's wiki for me Everyone has access, you just need an account.
Aside from that, Crotch, is Jer right outside the hospital? I have 3 FAKs ready to go. Or better yet Jer, can you get inside the hospital?
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