Boy, a lot has happened since my comedic post on Jersey Shore avatar parts. I know this thread gets a lot of activity, once a deal rolls around every Tuesday (formerly Mondays), but this time I may have a bit more to say than usual. I'm sorry for my wordy self, and long posts.
[quote name='reddjoey']Yeah. Sometimes I skim over legit info because of it[/QUOTE]
I apologize, reddjoey. Sometimes, I chime in on this thread because I do have some vested interest in DotW (paying for Gold after all
). If you find my thoughts/opinions are not in line with the thread, pleases send me a message to cease. I try to find out about upcoming deals, but typically others on this thread mention them first. I love what you do for this community, and I do not want to impede your flow of information.
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I am surprised by the number of cheapos who will buy a $5 piece of DLC that lasts a couple hours but refuse to buy a pinball table with unlimited plays at $3. Yes, most XBLA games are overpriced. That's a difficult to case to argue with Pinball FX 2. Here are a few points to consider for those of you waiting on a sale:
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I think purchases are made upon perceived value at the time or purchase. I basically see it as (price + time)/fun = value. I will buy
Guardian Heroes and
Radiant Silvergun on release at their full price on release, because I feel they'll be worth it at the time. However, I didn't buy last years Summer of Arcade offers until later, because I did not value those games at 1200MSP, and I was able to wait until they were 600MSP each. Some games I can wait on to be cheaper, some I like too much to wait.
Pinball FX2 falls into the former category for me.
Pinball FX2 is a game I do want to own, just not for their asking price, but at a lower price point at a later (hopefully soon) time.
I like pinball a lot. I like digital pinball a lot as well. They each have their own advantages and disadvantages. The feel of each experience is different to me, similar to going to an event (such as concerts or sports) opposed to watching it on DVD. Thus, I accept they are both priced differently, yet both experiences individually are still subject to their own value judgement.
We should accept most on this site are CAGs. The magnitude of which is all dependent on the person and of each respective game. We all love to save our money (or Microsoft Points in this case), but not everyone judges value in the same way.
Pinball FX2 still has to go on sale for me to bite.
[quote name='reddjoey']You have to remember why Summer of Arcade exists. Typically during this time period, there are no quality games (mainly b/c most people are on vacations or enjoying the nice weather) coming out so MS saw an opportunity to rake in sale dollars. Now all these companies have to sign a contract with MS and we know MS asks for "exclusivity", but it is very likely the devs ask MS not to run any major sales that could cannibalize the SoA sales. Why would they agree to be in SoA at 1200pts if a quality title is on sale for 800pts? It does really suck for paying Gold members, but that's just business. It's only a few weeks out of the year anyway.[/QUOTE]
Not defending kvaidair [person you were responding to with this post], but I do not see how mutually exclusive the two offerings are. Why can't I buy both a quality game on release AND something at a deal? It would make me go out and get more MS points.
Sure, it does suck as a Gold Member for me (at least), considering how I evaluate the price of the membership being offset by the amount I save. I sort of wish I could put my membership months on hold instead of having a large contiguous blocks of a year. I understand it is business, which explains why sometimes up to 3 weeks worth of deals are revealed early, while most are left up for "surprise" on Tuesdays. Yet business would also suggest they have no need of offering deals greater than 10% on Deal of the Week, so I still see when we do get a handsome deal of 50% or more, I appreciate it.
[quote name='BNoyes']No good deals, but that just means I'll be hanging onto my money. No cause to complain.[/QUOTE]
Exactly my thoughts
. I get to catch up with my backlog. Yet the nagging thought of "Gold Membership fee" makes me view a bad DotW as a loss of money in some way.
[quote name='totoguy']Or to put it more simply, SoA or DotW were never created for CAG-minded folks.
You'll keep seeing SoA games because they are very successful and make for good publicity.
And you'll keep seeing "disappointing" DotWs, specifically repeats of popular games and none for more obscure games - because that's what most of the consumer base is interested in, apparently.
Sure, Torchlight has been on sale before, but a repeat sale for it is a lot more likely than a sale for some random shmup, as sad as that may be.
The amount of people who might be interested in it, and missed the last sale (because most people aren't CAGs that check this thread twice a day), is probably a lot bigger than the specific group of people who both like random-shmup AND decided to wait this long for a sale on it.
So whine, be angry, whatever. I do that too, even if not on this thread.
Just don't be surprised every week all over again, or wonder "what the hell are they thinking?". What they are doing seems to work just fine for them, and if you all pass on deals for even a whole month, I doubt they'd notice.
Like reddjoey said, that's just business.[/QUOTE]
It couldn't hurt to offer a variety covering multiple bases/demographics on sale. Once in a while the deals offered can have some combination for XBLA, DLC, Indie Game, avatar part, maybe even Xbox Original with Games on Demand.
Business is business. That I get, but there's also some credence to stirring up more purchases of some old items which I would imagine can bring in some revenue to those which had their purchases tailed off (like the Booster and Tokyo Club Mix DLC packs for
Lumines Live!). Wouldn't getting some money for something which doesn't sell (much) anymore be good business? [Also would like to mention more, but my post has gone on long enough]
I do love me the shooting games (I hate the term "shmup"). That
KOF Sky Stage and I will have to stare at one another until it gives in and be 400MSP.
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Whew, sorry for the long multi-reply post. That's what happens when I don't check the thread last Tuesday and multiple topics broke out. I would like to close with comments on this week's offering of
Fruit Ninja Kinect.
I cannot justify purchasing a peripheral on
Child of Eden alone, I refuse to buy the Kinect at this time. Yet, they really should make Kinect work with my cat. That way, maybe at least the cat can enjoy flailing around and I can enjoy watching the cat. I do want to see how ninja it is at fruit swiping. Get to cat-integration Microsoft! I will even make my cat a gamertag, it can login when it shows up and meow to startup a game. Yep, would totally justify a purchase of
Fruit Ninja Kinect if those features are added in.
