Yakuza 4 - General Discussion - Out Now!

[quote name='Buuhan1']Where's Children's Park? Can't find it.[/QUOTE]

If it's the same as Y3, which I'm sure it is, it's the park in the upper left corner, next to the Taxi.
 
I beat this game. So good. It touched me in an extra special place. I went to play Ar Tornelico Qoga right after it and I got that sad in the pants feeling. Can't wait for OF THE END. Can't wait to see Majima do them crazy lols.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Same place it has been for the last 3 games.[/QUOTE]
I figured, but I was never good at the map in these games, especially for more obscure locations.
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']I figured, but I was never good at the map in these games, especially for more obscure locations.[/QUOTE]

I was just

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'Course you were. But I answer trolls straight up, just the kinda guy I am. =P

Btw, Knight. You're posting again, so does that mean you've finally started the game? This thread has been lonely without you since the game released.
 
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Yeah, I've just been busy as fuck with work and all. Playing now, finishing up Tanimura now and then on to Kazuma. I'll post more when I have more free time.
 
I think I have witnessed the dumbest thing ever in this series (near end game spoilers).

AKIYAMA DOESN'T KEEP A LOCK ON THE VAULT WITH A BILLION fuckING DOLLARS IN CASH?!?!!?
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I think I have witnessed the dumbest thing ever in this series (near end game spoilers).

AKIYAMA DOESN'T KEEP A LOCK ON THE VAULT WITH A BILLION fuckING DOLLARS IN CASH?!?!!?
[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU.

That rubbed me the wrong way, too.
Push button. Get filthy fucking rich.
 
So, what exactly is the strategy for
Junji
, Tanimura's final boss fight? I had a lot of trouble with him and ultimately came down to waiting for an attack, parrying, then getting in 3 quick jabs before rinsing and repeating. But this will not slide during his fight in the virtual reality simulator (I.. F... 7, something...) due to the time limit.

Just what is the trick with this prick? D:
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I think I have witnessed the dumbest thing ever in this series (near end game spoilers).

AKIYAMA DOESN'T KEEP A LOCK ON THE VAULT WITH A BILLION fuckING DOLLARS IN CASH?!?!!?
[/QUOTE]

I thought about that as well. Maybe he was just so impressed with himself on how well he hid it he didn't think that was necessary.
 
[quote name='whoknows']I thought about that as well. Maybe he was just so impressed with himself on how well he hid it he didn't think that was necessary.[/QUOTE]
"Hiding a vault behind a bookcase and the switch behind a specific book, yes! No one has ever thought of this ingenious concept before!"

I guess he gets points for simply not having the vault open by pulling on the book.

Especially considering I guess I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, as I thought that was one of those fancy-dancy dimmer light switches at first glance.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Does the story of 4 really rely that much on 3's? If so, is there a good recap of 3 up anywhere?[/QUOTE]
Nope, completely independent. There's a reference here and there, but nothing that will leave you scratching your head. But even if it was, all games have a video recap of the previous games right there on the main menu.
 
[quote name='pete5883']Does the story of 4 really rely that much on 3's? If so, is there a good recap of 3 up anywhere?[/QUOTE]

when you boot up Yakuza 4, you can pick "reminisce" from the main menu.

this lets you watch what happened in Yakuza, Yakuza 2, & Yakuza 3. You even get a shiny trophy after watching them all :bouncy:
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']Nope, completely independent. There's a reference here and there, but nothing that will leave you scratching your head. But even if it was, all games have a video recap of the previous games right there on the main menu.[/QUOTE]

Yep.

Which is actually a good thing for people knew to the series since 3 out of the 4 characters you play as are brand new, you don't need to know anything prior.

Best story too IMO.
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']
I guess he gets points for simply not having the vault open by pulling on the book.
[/QUOTE]

When I first saw that cutscene I totally thought that's what was going on.
 
Well, just finished the game. I have a tale to tell that involves the (probable) death of a PS3 controller, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. Thank Christ the PS3 recognizes even really shitty old PC USB controllers.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Best story too IMO.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. I found the story in 4 to be the worst of the series. Which isn't an insult when you keep in mind how fantastic the storyline are for these games.
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Well, just finished the game. I have a tale to tell that involves the (probable) death of a PS3 controller, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. Thank Christ the PS3 recognizes even really shitty old PC USB controllers.[/QUOTE]
Was it the last Tanimura fight? Please tell me it was the last Tanimura fight, I feel alone for having broke my phone over that.

I'm actually currently doing a lot of the side stuff in the game... I haven't done that in the previous 3 games. But I've been having a pretty good time, makes me wanna go back and do side missions (which I largely ignored) in the first 3 games.
 
I thought Tanimura's fight was a nice homage to Jingu. Anyway, Tanimura does have a few regular moves that keeps him invincible to
Munakata's shots
in their animations.
 
Ok, here's the story. I'll post my overall impressions of the game later.

THE VERY LAST BOSS FIGHT. Yes,
Tanimura's
. During the cutscene right before I take a sip of water and spill a little on the controller. No problem, I'll just wipe it up like usual and go right back to playing. This has NEVER been a problem and has happened many times with no bad results on various controllers and handhelds. At this point the controller was still working. Instead my husband grabs the controller from me basically shaking it and shit to get the water off. When I take it back from him the thing is dead. Duh, shaking the fucking thing will get water into the cracks for sure. I was beyond distraught and pissed off. He being an engineer tried to take it apart and fix it, but it remained dead. At this point I was so upset I started crying and figured we'd have to make a late night trip to Walfart on a work night. Then my husband gets the idea to try using his 8-year-old, really crappy USB PC game controller on the PS3. To my surprise, it worked perfectly and I was able to beat the game. I had no idea that most USB controllers work on PS3, but my friend told me after that they do. THANK GOD. The PS3 controller is now in the freezer per my husband thinking it might get rid of the moisture (it has worked for my phone in the past), but it might be dead still. I'll try it out tonight. But at least the major crisis at hand was averted.
 
Oh poo, so the fight itself didn't cause breakage? :(

I have a PS2/GC/Xbox to USB device, but when I plug that and a DualShock 2 into the PS3... it works, but the buttons don't do what they're suppose to do.
 
Weirdly enough, this shitty USB controller worked perfectly. The buttons automatically mapped correctly.

EDIT: The freezer trick worked. MY CONTROLLER LIVES! And now I know I have a shitty backup controller if it ever fails again.

Ok, posting impressions finally.

Akiyama's part was beyond amazing. By far the best piece of the series. Great main story, great characters, great sidequests, fun fighting style. I thought to myself, "If this is just the beginning, how fucking amazing is the rest of the game going to be?" Unfortunately it was the best part of the game. I don't think the rest of the game was any worse than any of the other Yakuza games, but it sure was a tough sell after the stellar first quarter. There were some retarded plot points but it comes with the Yakuza territory. Though, I do think the story was a bit weaker than previous games, which was made up for with the 4 main characters.

The difficulty was all over the fucking place. Akiyama was piss easy to play as, and Saejima was absolutely awful to play as in the beginning. 2 of the most difficult boss fights in the game when you're not used to Saejima's style and he hasn't had a chance to level up. Just awful. Once you build Saejima up though he is pretty easy to play as, thankfully. However, I found his sidequests very lacking. Tanimura was a fun character, loved his heat actions, but his story wasn't as endearing to me as Akiyama's and the sidequests weren't as good, though they were better than Saejima's. Kiryu's part was pretty short but I didn't mind so much after playing him the past 3 games. Plus, you're near the climax of the story and just want to get it over with. The fact that his only 2 revelations were both repeats from previous characters was bullshit, though.

The number one lulzy thing in the game besides the pantsu Revelation were the ridiculous gestures a lot of the NPCs made. The guys circling their wrists in the air while pointing, holding a peace sign to their forehead, doing more ridiculous pointing... Absolutely hilarious. I don't recall them doing that in 3 but I could be wrong. Either way, it was hilarious.
 
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I just finished Akiyama's portion. I've been going around trying to do all the sidequests and stuff. It kind of ended really suddenly and kind of caught me by surprise. I didn't get all the locker keys and stuff, so I guess you never do get to go back and finish it (unless there's a point where you are free to take whichever guy you want and finish up his quests).

I have to say, I agree with Dead of Knight about the difficulty. Akiyama was super powerful and easy to control, but the next guy (forget his name) absolutely sucks. He's a big Yakuza guy, yet he does minimal damage to enemies. I think the part that pissed me off the most was
the whole escape from jail--there is not a point where you can stop. I am so used to fighting with Akiyama, and I can't stop an level up at all with the 2nd guy to compensate for the shitty fighting style and higher difficulty. It just drug on and on, I was up until 2:30 trying to get to a F-ing save point. I finally gave up after getting my ass handed to me 3 times by Kazuma. I hope it will put me back to just before the Kazuma fight, because if I have to fight that asswipe in the jail again, I'm going to freaking scream. That fight totally sucked, you have very limited stamina drinks to refill your health.
I died so many times fighting that douche.
 
Actually really enjoy Saejima. You guys ARE making use of his triangle charge attacks, right? That's what his whole fighting style is centered around, simply tapping triangle and you're gonna suck with him. After you level him a bit he becomes a beast. A rush combo followed by a triangle charge and 2 taps of the triangle ravages pretty much anyone caught in it.

Tanimura is the one who utterly sucks to me, but he's fine once he's upgraded. Problem is, unless you you ran around leveling, he becomes good after a point it no longer matters. I also think it's unfair how the game basically threw bosses at you in his story that expects you to have him mastered. The boss fight at the docks and his final boss fight... GAAAH!
 
I have to say Tan was my favorite. Seijima was the worst at the beginning though.
I am glad I can go back and complete everything before the finale
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']Actually really enjoy Saejima. You guys ARE making use of his triangle charge attacks, right? That's what his whole fighting style is centered around, simply tapping triangle and you're gonna suck with him.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's just so awkward to hold down square and triangle. If it were circle and triangle, it would be much easier since those buttons are aligned with your right thumb. And for a big guy, he sure gets knocked down easily.
 
[quote name='bjstucker']I have to say Tan was my favorite. [/QUOTE]

Same here too. He's all about style. :cool:

I beat Amon a bit ago.
I thought his fight was better of all the bosses in Y4. Its not as cheesey as it was in Y3, but still toned down a lot in difficulty just like how other bosses were affected in Y4's more "realistic approach." After the others deal with his apprentices, you fight his first form which is a push-over since he doesn't really do much besides throw nades. I thought the 2nd stage of the fight was great because Amon will sometimes stop to call in the ship from Boxcelios to fire its laser along the ground at you. Also, he combines the attacks of his other apprentices into his moveset and is generally more aggressive. It was a pretty decent fight, but hearing Kato's music theme of Amon is a plus.
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']Damn, guess I'm the only one who sucks with Tanimura. How'd you guys handle Jinji?[/QUOTE]

Like any other cheap boss in the game. There are tons of cheap bosses in the Yakuza series and 4 is no different. I didn't find Tanimura's bosses any more difficult than other ones in this game or in past games.

I'd say the toughest fights are the ones at the beginning Saejima's and Kiryu's parts (including that cheap juggler fuck
Saito as well as Kiryu when you're Saejima
). In both of those you are basically thrust right into an action stage with very little healing items and in Saejima's case (as Kiryu comes powered up a bit) a very limited moveset and are expected to fight cheap bosses. It was especially harder with Saejima because he plays radically difficent than Akiyama or Kiryu. Tanimura is a bit different but he is enough like Akiyama and Kiryu so that it isn't much of a problem, plus you don't start right in the middle of an action stage...
 
I have seen everyone say they've had trouble fighting Kiryu as Saejima, both here and on other forums. I didn't. I mopped the deck with him, he was more or less a punching bag like any other random goon that stops you in the street for me. Maybe I was just lucky?
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']I have seen everyone say they've had trouble fighting Kiryu as Saejima, both here and on other forums. I didn't. I mopped the deck with him, he was more or less a punching bag like any other random goon that stops you in the street for me. Maybe I was just lucky?[/QUOTE]

I beat him on my first try too.

I healed once during the fight, but It wasn't hard really.
 
I beat him to the ground too without much effort as well. I bet people have a hard time transitioning from Akiyama to Saejima's fighting style is why they make so many posts about it.
 
I don't know. I mean you do fight a lot as Saejima before getting to Kiryu.

I think people are just intimidated because Kiryu is so badass :cool:
 
[quote name='Supplice']I beat him to the ground too without much effort as well. I bet people have a hard time transitioning from Akiyama to Saejima's fighting style is why they make so many posts about it.[/QUOTE]


i know i did fucking saejima is too damn slow. yeah once you get the triangle power up move to use in a combo the fights go by quicker but its freakin using him when startting out mainly because of how
cheap the prison is especially that one bastard who you have to fight like 2 or 3 times.
that was the one time i actually died in the game period.
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']Saito is a cheap motherfucker, it's not Saejima's fault. He was a bitch fighting with Kiryu as well.[/QUOTE]

damn i have to fight him again? fucking a man that really sucks.
 
Kiryu was the only fight I used a continue for the whole game. Son of a bitch. The first time was rough, but the second time I played a LOT more defensively and it was a lot easier.

And yes you have to fight Saito again (TWICE) and yes he is just as bad because he's in the very first part of Kiryu's chapter where you have limited health items since you don't have a chance to buy any beforehand. BARELY won both times on the first try.
 
Anyone else find the legendary Dine and Dasher? I find his story fascinating and hilarious that he returned from Yakuza 3 again. So what possesses him to dine and dash? He has the money to pay, yet he continues to eat and run for fun.
 
Good way to work off the meal.

It's for the thrill of it. Wynonna Ryder shoplifted despite having money.
 
[quote name='Buuhan1']You don't hold down square AND triangle. Just triangle.[/QUOTE]

Ok, I just got a chance to play again, and it is in fact Square + Triangle to do the charge move. Saejima does the charge and he does this big downward punch that knocks the opponent down on the ground.

You must have unlocked some ability that is just holding down triangle.

One thing with this combo is that it takes so long to charge, and it's not activated by letting the buttons go--it does it immediately. So you have to time the damned thing perfectly. Also, fighting Kazuma, he dodges this attack very easily; by the time the thing charges up, and you do the punch, Kazuma has dodged it.

I finally beat Kazuma after continuing 4 or 5 times. The guy in the jail took me 5 or 6 more retries and you have to fight the jackass 2 times. Saejima definitely sucks balls (at least early on). I finally managed to beat Kazuma by just doing blocking and quick combos of square and triangle individually (not the charge move).
 
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