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CAGcast #203: Kazoo!

#91 canestim   CAG Cane CAGiversary!   146 Posts   Joined 12.3 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 11:58 AM

Great show guys, very funny and lots of energy. Glad to see you guys kiss and make up. Wombat was really happy this episode and he was very funny. Ship also has been bringing more funny lately. Cheapy D redeems himself from being Cheapy D(ouche)! Awesome, keep it up!

#92 AriesDog   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   696 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 12:04 PM

I'm glad CAG brought up the odd hype over Dance Central. I'm not too sure what the Joystiq guys saw that made then all excited, but I thought that it was nothing more than filler. Once I heard people start to buzz about it, I looked more into it and STILL didn't see anything worthwhile to me.

I get why things unfolded the way they did, and I'm glad to see that the guys are patching things up.

I've heard more than one reviewer say that you don't get how fun it is until you actually play it. I'm skeptical too but that's the buzz.

#93 Thomas96   I am Thomaticus! CAGiversary!   5989 Posts   Joined 12.2 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 12:32 PM

Good Show guys, I'm glad that you guys have patched things up. I know that at the end of the year, you may do a clip(s) show, please add Wombat's clip which starts at about the 13 minute mark...

"You said that I was obnoxious,..... maybe you should be thinking a little less about whether or not someone in your entourage is carrying a swag bag and more about whether or not you have a smile on your face."

That quote was cold Wombat.. nice and subtle; a stark contrast to my other favorite comment years ago when Cheapy said something like "I wrote this whole show Bitch!" anyway, good job Cheapy for being able to take the heat; That's one of the main things that I enjoy about the show is that you've always been able to take heat, (whether you deserved it or not) and a lot of criticism. Definitely says a lot about your character.
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#94 KillerRamen   OMG Lilac PSP! CAGiversary!   3526 Posts   Joined 7.0 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 01:57 PM

I actually got Playstation Plus and so far I think it's well worth the $3.33 per month. Age of Zombies was awesome and I always wanted to buy Wipeout HD, but I was too cheap to pay $15. I also like the idea of getting a new skin every month and the one you get the first month is actually pretty cool.

However, I think they can improve upon is their PSOne selection. Rally Cross is kinda useless.
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#95 Jay Are Man Loy   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   9 Posts   Joined 6.6 Years Ago  

Jay Are Man Loy

Posted 01 July 2010 - 02:37 PM

Dear Cheapy,

I am writing to honor your request for an anonymous comment. You might not remember me; I'm just one of your gushing, dorky fans. It's Jay, by the way.

When I first saw you at E3, my heart skipped and I almost pooped myself. Nervously, I walked over and introduced myself, and you nonchalantly acknowledged me and walked on to another booth. That was it.

For those people who may be insulted at someone's lack of enthusiasm, I have to say: Get the Fuck over it. If I had to travel halfway around the world to some bullshit convention that just wasn't worth it, I'd be pretty pissed off as well. My guess is that Cheapy was jet lagged the whole time and not too happy about it. If I was in his situation, I might have tried to kill someone just for getting in my way.

So, maybe Wombat's anonymous informants were too selfish themselves and couldn't understand what might prompt unenthusiastic behavior. The next time you see a woman pissed off, assume that she has severe vaginal itch. The next time you see a man in a hurry, assume that he has to take a massive poop very badly and is racing to a toilet to keep from soiling his slacks. The next time you see a person who is fatigued, assume that they have had a giant rock in their shoe from the moment they left the house.

Wombat, don't you live and work in New York? Wouldn't you be accustomed to this kind of attitude? I understand that you were trying to make a point by interviewing these people, but in my opinion, Cheapy had a damn good excuse for not skipping around with a giant smile and a rainbow coming out of his ass.

And I want to be perfectly frank: I think Cheapy is an asshole too. However, I do think that he should be forgiven under these circumstances.

I sincerely thank all three of you for an ass-kicking show.

#96 encendido5   Let's Go Mets!!! CAGiversary!   3929 Posts   Joined 12.4 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 02:40 PM

Good to see everybody getting along again.

That Hulu thing is crazy. I'd rather just plug in my macbook (where Hulu is free!) to my tv than pay $10 a month.


#97 Swoxx   Resident Swede CAGiversary!   103 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:35 PM

Dance Central btw, is what will drive me to pick up Kinect, why wouldn't that have the same appeal as rock band / guitar hero? I'm not saying the audiences over lapse completely or anything, but at least i know i want it because of some nice tunes, good party game and some fun jumping around like an ass.

#98 Baron O Hell   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   653 Posts   Joined 10.6 Years Ago  

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:38 PM

Kind of a dull show but that was to expected. Did anyone from E3 write in about Cheapy yet.

#99 bgame2   Pure Cag Smoothness CAGiversary!   3235 Posts   Joined 9.2 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:44 PM

Not completely through the show yet but I wanted to note that (as someone who was highly critical of Wombat last week), I appreciated his taking it like a man and doing the show in an upbeat mood this week. He still got his shots in on cheapy (with those 5 comments from journalists) but he seemed to let it go for the most part.

On another topic, Cheapy my son is 3 and was brutal to potty train (poop-wise). He was the last one in his day care class to learn. I got him to finally "make a deposit" by leaving him without pants for about an hour and half after eating. That was the only thing that worked. Every other google-searched suggestion failed. Hope this helps!

#100 Ultramontane   Kuato Lives! CAGiversary!   138 Posts   Joined 7.6 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:45 PM

Jesus Ship, did I hear this correctly? You have an Xbox upstairs and an Xbox downstairs?

Is this like a 'his & hers' Xbox situation?
Does your butler dust them off from time to time?

Good show gents

Don't make decisions when you're angry and don't make promises when you're happy.

#101 joyce_181502   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   67 Posts   Joined 8.4 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:53 PM

I can't believe Cheapy apologized to WomBABY !

Cheapy basically called him out for his apparently obnoxious and rude behavior, which WomBABY conceded to. Yet instead of handling it like an adult, Wombaby throws a tantrum and Cheapy gives in.

I suppose the next step is for Cheapy to apologize that his food was not delicious enough for Wombat and change the site to www.wombabygamer.com since he (not Cheapy) wears the pants

#102 Foggen   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   29 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:13 PM

Man, this argument at the beginning sounds like Cheapy trying to placate a girlfriend. Wombat kind of needs to grow up.

#103 luptaktical   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   11 Posts   Joined 6.7 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:24 PM

You all work well together and I'm glad that mommy and daddy made up. I was worried that Shipwreck was going to get sent to another foster home.

#104 myopicprophet   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   18 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:54 PM

About this whole "Wombgate" scandal, You didnt even say anything negative about him. As a matter of fact, you only spoke of the rude ass things he did, and spoke the truth.

Lets go back and count how many times Wombat has called Cheapy "Baldy", or Shipwreck "Firecrotch", out of the blue. Now we have password for when Wombat ha s his wittle Feewings hurt.

Wombat, love you on the show, but you should look in the mirror, not at your co-hosts.

#105 Oburi   CAG Veteran CAG Veteran   6 Posts   Joined 6.8 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:21 PM

Cheapy and Ship know that Wombat can't take being poked at. Ship said so himself in a previous episode. It was just a case of Cheapy forgot. Everyone has friends and we know there are things we don't do to certain friends. The apology was a bit long but definitely necessary. In Cheapy's defense about the 5 people Wombat asked about him. Everyone has to admit probably 85-90% of people on the net are just plain strange. When he only gets to come to America once or twice a year and he has 300 people come up to him and act like they know him because of the website and listening to the cag cast he probably has a certain state of mind in those types of events. In a regular situation I'm sure he's great. Cheapy's also seems like someone who likes to keep his hands to himself so taking food of his plate is the thing you can't do to Cheapy. For who built the Transformers I believe it was Hasborotron right?

#106 Loggins   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   5 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:42 PM

Ive listened since the first podcast and Wombat have always annoyed me and struck me as juvenile and self centered. But this was really too much. What a child he is - and surely he must be not only self centered but self obsessed. He makes me sick now. I used to tolerate him but this is enough.

And all his slimy snake like attempts at getting everything for free. "Free games! Im important so give me stuff!" Yuk! And ofcourse everyone needs to talk about him. All other people in the industry must respect the child wombat. Hes really a loud and important voice for all gamers and industry.. yeah right.. Hes a piss ant with too much ego and too little ability is what he is.

Still - I think he belongs in the CAG cast. He occationally sais some funny things and ive grown to get used to him hanging around the mic when the adults are talking on the podcast. So keep him around. Just tell him to pipe down a few notches and to stop being such an asshole. The few times when he actually genuinely talks about games and forget about himself he can actually be quite entertaining, so get well soon.

Good luck CAG cast!

Keep poopin'

#107 Loggins   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   5 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:48 PM

Fucking double posts.

#108 MattJ1991   Cheap Ass Matthew CAGiversary!   344 Posts   Joined 8.8 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 06:32 PM

I honestly thought you were a huge asshole last episode Cheapy, you ripped on Wombat a little too much. There is a difference between "busting balls" and hurting your friends feelings. It was very disrespectful to basically call Wombat loud, rude and annoying after he mentioned multiple times that the reason he enjoyed E3 so much was being able to spend time with his friends.

Saying that Wombat isn't your friend, whether that's what you meant to say or not, was mean. Wombat is probably one of your better friends now in Japan. Wombats mother question serves right to show you how stupid your comments were. Now, as Shipwreck said, "I love you both, now let's put this behind us".

I should also mention that I honestly feel that Wombat and Shipwreck seem a lot more fun to be around then you. I like all three of you but you seem almost uninterested in most things. I can fully understand why people would call you bored and standoffish

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#109 WonkyToad   CAG-aholic CAGiversary!   784 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 07:31 PM

OK, anyway....

Hulu charging is BS! (but I can't say I did not see it coming)
I guess I can see it as a "cable alternative", but that as a business model just seems odd to me for some reason.
Waiting for ESPN360 until November is a drag, but at least they are not going to charge extra. (providing your ISP carries it).

Still feelin' the banana icecream love!
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#110 jaystaeb8   Too Little Time CAGiversary!   123 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:15 PM

My 2 cents...

Cheapy needs to work on apologies but the sentiment was there.

The people's opinions of Cheapy really don't seem to take into consideration that he is from Japan and the time change and travel time would account for a lot of what people would consider his attitude and energy. (not being the life of the party). I would imagine a party in his time zone with people who are 12 hours off schedule, just flew hours, then attended a conference for a couple days, that most people would not be the life of the party.

Hulu plus is exciting for me, I haven't watched TV that wasn't on Hulu or Netflix for more than 2 years, I have an antenna not cable and we watch the news, everything else I watch on the computer or the PS3 and 360. I have an iPad so now I can watch more Hulu content and I can watch it in many more places. I am in the minority not having cable so I don't know how many people the plus will appeal to but it has my name all over it. I don't mind that there are still commercials, they are very minimal compared to regular TV and if that is what it takes to keep Hulu alive so I don't have to resort to other more questionable, means to watch the shows I enjoy, it is still way cheaper than cable.

Edited by jaystaeb8, 01 July 2010 - 08:18 PM.

#111 mrangrypants   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   77 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 08:48 PM

This is why Shipwreck doesn't tease Wombat when Wombat ribs him.
Gordon's alive?!?!?

#112 mrangrypants   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   77 Posts   Joined 8.3 Years Ago  


Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:01 PM

I wanted to say Kazoo after Wombat's quote of the guy that ditched on a party.

Also, i love all three of you. CAG group hug!

Edit: Wombat, the Quintessons created the Transformers. You see them in the movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintessa

That is only partly true. Only in the TV show did the Quintessons create the transformers. In the Comic it was Primus the huge robotic god that created the transformers. And in the Micheal Bay movies, those were created by him taking a big Cheapy D sized dookie all over my childhood.
Gordon's alive?!?!?

#113 Swann88   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   26 Posts   Joined 6.9 Years Ago  

Posted 02 July 2010 - 12:26 AM

I didn't think they were that hard on Wombat when this all started, but yet I know exactly how Wombat feels because I have been in that situation. A few people think everything is funny and they are having a good time messing with you and in the meantime you aren't having fun. Getting piled on can suck.

Now, do we get to have a feedback session during periodic CagCasts to point out when Wombat is being an a jerk (or other descriptive words or phrases to describe how he acts)? In light of events, fair is fair - right? Now understand, I laugh at this stuff and at these moments and it usually adds to the show. I don't know how many times when I am listening to the CagCast Wombat says stuff and acts in manners that make me wonder how can Cheapy put up with him on his show. He can be rather obnoxious and I don't hear Cheapy and Shipwreck laughing.

To wrap up, no I don't think there should be feedback like I mentioned. I don't want any of our esteemed hosts changing who they are. We are lucky to have 3 diverse hosts. But, if somebody wrongs another, fix it up but don't follow up with a little smack down on one of the other people. That's kind of like I except your apology but only if I get to point out your not perfect. A little artificial to me and like payback was more important. It wasn't any better having Cheapy being very bothered about the feedback Wombat shared from other people. That is almost worse than what started this whole thing because Cheapy wasn't hurt by something Wombat did or said but by other people - and Wombat and Shipwreck are in the "know" and Cheapy isn't. If those people really had issues, they should be adults and let Cheapy know themselves. Speak up or forever hold your peace. Using Wombat was rather wimpy and childish.

Just my 1/2 cent opinion from my 1/2 pint mind.

#114 bickle   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   715 Posts   Joined 12.8 Years Ago  

Posted 02 July 2010 - 12:43 AM

Ok, I have to admit... the 'Kazoo!' reference is lost on me.

#115 Kfoster1979   Fanboys Suck CAGiversary!   1330 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  


Posted 02 July 2010 - 12:49 AM

Good Show guys.

I disagree with you guys on Hulu+ they want to be an alternative to cable. Anything on Hulu is On Demand so you don't "need" a DVR and its only 10 bucks. Your 10 also lets you watch from any PC, iPhone, iPad, basically anything that can get to Hulu. If you could get 75% of your TV from that and the other from a combo of Over The Air, Netflix, and Ala Cart Downloads you could save a ton of money each month. Yeah its not for everyone, but there is a legitimate use case for some people and maybe this kind of competition will start to bring down cable, and satellite prices.

Edited by Kfoster1979, 02 July 2010 - 02:25 AM.

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#116 apathylad   NeoCAG CAGiversary!   638 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  

Posted 02 July 2010 - 01:22 AM

I met all three of you guys at the CAG E3 Party. Wombat gave me this prize pack, so here's proof Wombat > CheapyD:

In all seriousness, CheapyD seemed like a nice guy at the party. I will say he appeared more like a detached businessman though. Still, this could be a side effect of paying lots of money for the party in the first place. Shipwreck and Wombat seemed a little more outgoing at the event, but these personality differences aren't that big of a deal. :bouncy:

Anyway, good show. I don't think everyone should keep making a big deal about last week's podcast. Sure, it was a little heartbreaking hearing a "sad panda Wombat", but everyone apologized for it.

I've been interested in giving Demon's Souls a try myself. I should have the UK version coming in soon, so I hope I'll enjoy it.

Edited by apathylad, 02 July 2010 - 02:59 AM.

#117 mrs. shipwreck   CAG Foreplayer CAGiversary!   102 Posts   Joined 10.9 Years Ago  

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 01:35 AM

I met all three of you guys at the CAG E3 Party. Wombat gave me this prize pack, so here's proof Wombat > CheapyD:

I'm really glad that figure found a new home :-) I made those prize packs!:D
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#118 Microshock   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   613 Posts   Joined 9.5 Years Ago  


Posted 02 July 2010 - 01:59 AM

By the way, even though Hulu Plus is pretty much worthless compared to Netflix and Free Hulu, DVR by itself for cable is 10 bucks a month.

That's just for the privilege of using DVR and not even including the TV.
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#119 zander1123   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   35 Posts   Joined 7.8 Years Ago  


Posted 02 July 2010 - 02:32 AM

Regarding the Move, Kinect battle. I am not saying that the move will sell better than the Kinect, but it has 2 HUGE things going for it.

First it can be advertised as a starting price of 50 dollars. While this might not seem like a huge deal to everyone who follows various gaming news sites. This is a great ending to the commercials. Think how Mircosofts 360 commercials end "Xbox 360 starting at $199."

That is how Sony will be marketing their product "Playstation Move STARTING at $50"

Second, almost everyone seems to forget the big deal that sony signed with Coke-Cola. It is being called the biggest marketing promotion in Coke-Cola history. This along with get the Move in peoples minds.

Overall I think the fact that the move is very similar to the wii, plus the Blu-ray capabilities of the PS3 and the things mentioned above will allow the move to have great market penetration. I don't know how much the move will sell, but it will sell well.

#120 radjago   Long-time CAG CAGiversary!   4075 Posts   Joined 12.7 Years Ago  

Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:10 AM

I'm going to have to disagree with Wombat about Raven not being strong in shooters. Their "roots" are clearly planted in the bloodshed of shooters, not superhero action RPGs.

Let's look that their catalog. Games in bold are shooters.

Black Crypt (1992)
Shadowcaster (1993)
CyClones (1994)
Heretic (1994)
Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders (1994)
HeXen (1995)
HeXen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel (1996)
Necrodome (1996)
Mageslayer (1997)
Take No Prisoners (1997)
HeXen II (1997)
HeXen II: Portal of Praevus (1998)
Heretic II (1998)
Soldier of Fortune (2000)
Star Trek: Voyager Elite Force (2000)
Star Trek: Voyager Elite Force: Virtual Voyager (2001)
Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast (2002)
Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix (2002)
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy (2003)
X-Men Legends (2004)
X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse (2005)
Quake 4 (2005)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (2006)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
Wolfenstein (2009)
Singularity (2010)

Their last shooter wasn't great, but it wasn't their IP either, whereas Singularity is. I don't think it's going to be a Halo killer, but they have the heritage to make a solid shooter. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see another Raven action RPG game, but I'd rather see something of their own creation.