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#2761 ShadowAssassin   #TTP CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

ShadowAssassin

Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:05 PM

I really couldn't care either way if Gamestop goes under. I'm not rooting for it, I don't shop there much and whatever exclusives they get would just go elsewhere if they went under(probably publisher website exclusives for most of them). I mean it'd suck for a lot of people to lose their jobs though, but nothing can really be done about it. Companies go under all the time, it's just the way it goes.



#2762 Cloudx9  

Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:12 PM

Heard today that Gamestop fired a Quarter of their Regional and District managers to cut cost.

#2763 ShadowAssassin   #TTP CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

ShadowAssassin

Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:27 PM

Heard today that Gamestop fired a Quarter of their Regional and District managers to cut cost.

They're in serious serious trouble. It's not a matter of 'if' it's a matter if 'when' the only question is can they make it to the console launches in 2020? That will keep them afloat for a little longer, but in terms of games sales they just are done. Their model isn't sustainable.

 

Not just them, large retail B&M chains are no longer going to exist. It'll be large mega retailers like Best Buy/Walmart/Target(who profit off lots of other things besides games) Amazon, and digital sales. That's really it. Commercial B&M game retailers are going to be a thing of the past. Sure there will be some mom and pop game stores here and there, but that's it.

 

Gamestop is trying to turn largely into retro game sales to shake it up per recent reports, but I don't see that working either. Retro games don't have a large market, it's a very niche demographic. It's going to be the end of an era, really.



#2764 MaximusDM   What is a man!? CAGiversary!   434 Posts   Joined 9.7 Years Ago  

Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:34 PM

My gamestop turned into a toy store a few years ago. They keep the games in this secluded corner giving PS4 and Xbox maybe 8 feet of wall space for their games. And a rack for PS3 and Wii/WiiU. Once that happened I kind of stopped going. Because I know even if it says they have a game in stock on the website for a game preowned. I know damn well they won't have the case for it because they don't have the floor space to keep game cases.



#2765 ThatOneGuyWho   CAGiversary! CAGiversary!   6571 Posts   Joined 11.9 Years Ago  

ThatOneGuyWho

Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:34 PM

Here's an article on it https://kotaku.com/g...-sea-1836887114

#2766 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   22942 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:42 PM

My gamestop turned into a toy store a few years ago. They keep the games in this secluded corner giving PS4 and Xbox maybe 8 feet of wall space for their games. And a rack for PS3 and Wii/WiiU. Once that happened I kind of stopped going. Because I know even if it says they have a game in stock on the website for a game preowned. I know damn well they won't have the case for it because they don't have the floor space to keep game cases.

Yeah I went into a GS for the first time in at least 2 years and was shocked at how much merch they had. I don't have anything against that but their stores are so cluttered now. 

 

And though I'm no fan of GS (anymore, used to think they were a solid place to pick up games during B2G1F sales), it sucks seeing more and more sources of physical games die out. I know digital is the future and whatnot but my fear is that, once it goes to a all digital environment, that there'll be no need for publishers to be price concussions. Like, in an all digital market, Sony will be the only one to sell PS4 (and 5) games through the PS Store, which is no different than it is now, except that they no longer have to worry about physical game sales. So why bother lower prices on digital games (which once you buy, you're stuck with)? 



#2767 ShadowAssassin   #TTP CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

ShadowAssassin

Posted 01 August 2019 - 09:50 PM

Here's an article on it https://kotaku.com/g...-sea-1836887114

I just don't see how it can survive, unfortunately for them. What's the incentive for the majority of consumers for getting in their car and driving to a game store these days? There are absolutely none unless the sales are so amazing, it's worth their while, but Gamestop generally has the worst sales and policies, so not only isn't that a draw, but the opposite. You don't need to leave your house to buy games anymore and can get them cheaper than Gamestop without waiting in lines, wasting gas, and being hassled by employees trying to sell you warranties and extra controllers and such. And get them delivered right to your door on release day at a better price and with better deals. Or just get them digitally immediately.

 

For them to attract more in-store customers they'd have to have sales so amazing that they'd no longer be profitable and then they still end up losing anyway. I don't see a logical path toward them staying in business. Best case scenario is I think they focus on collectibles and retro games, close down like 90% of their stores and keep a select few open and that's it.



#2768 addicted2games   游戏玩家为生活 !! CAGiversary!   4059 Posts   Joined 15.4 Years Ago  

addicted2games

Posted 01 August 2019 - 10:04 PM

For years, I have been turning my Discover Cash Back bonus into Gamestop gift cards because you get a $50 gift card for $45 cash back. Plus I didn't really care for the other partner gift cards they offered. But I guess soon enough, I will be forced to find another retailer to use that cash back on. I could just put it toward my payment of the bill, but with the gift card option, you gain an extra $5 each time of reward.



#2769 Jhingles  

Posted 01 August 2019 - 10:22 PM

Tbh I see the firings as less of a doomsday sign and more that upper management realized how useless the DMs actually are. When I worked there the only thing they ever did was set insane goals and harass managers who were already overworked. The dude in my district wanted us to get preorders and GPGs on 50% of our transactions and sign 20 people up for the credit card every day. Basically encouraging that scummy GS behavior.

#2770 ShadowAssassin   #TTP CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

ShadowAssassin

Posted 01 August 2019 - 10:34 PM

Btw that reminds me, if you guys have pre-orders there, I'd suggest taking your money out unless it comes out later this year. You may lose out if they go under. I mean, you may not, but I wouldn't risk it if you have something in 2020, unless you can afford to lose it.



#2771 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   22942 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:21 PM

For years, I have been turning my Discover Cash Back bonus into Gamestop gift cards because you get a $50 gift card for $45 cash back. Plus I didn't really care for the other partner gift cards they offered. But I guess soon enough, I will be forced to find another retailer to use that cash back on. I could just put it toward my payment of the bill, but with the gift card option, you gain an extra $5 each time of reward.

I used to do the same... the best part was GS was part of Discover's 5% bonus cash back stores so you'd get 5% bonus cashback just for shopping there. I stopped getting them because even with all the savings factored in, GS was always WAY more expensive than other alternatives. I now just use my Discover CB on Amazon since it's a dollar for dollar rate (vs some other cards, like it's $1 on Amazon = $1.25 at Chase rewards). 



#2772 srocky26  

Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:42 PM

Btw that reminds me, if you guys have pre-orders there, I'd suggest taking your money out unless it comes out later this year. You may lose out if they go under. I mean, you may not, but I wouldn't risk it if you have something in 2020, unless you can afford to lose it.

All of your drama here is just stupid. People have been saying for years they’re going under in a matter of minutes, but they’re still there.

They’re not going anywhere for at least a few years. Sure, they cut managers; next, they’ll close stores that are obviously too close/ under performing.

There are good deals to be had if you play the system. Less competition is also terrible. Amazon matches GameStop’s sales and they’re often pretty decent when it comes to clearance prices. They’ve been running x games for x price off and on for most of the year, again good deals to be had.

#2773 ShadowAssassin   #TTP CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

ShadowAssassin

Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:45 PM

All of your drama here is just stupid. People have been saying for years they’re going under in a matter of minutes, but they’re still there.

They’re not going anywhere for at least a few years. Sure, they cut managers; next, they’ll close stores that are obviously too close/ under performing.

There are good deals to be had if you play the system. Less competition is also terrible. Amazon matches GameStop’s sales and they’re often pretty decent when it comes to clearance prices. They’ve been running x games for x price off and on for most of the year, again good deals to be had.

1. It's not "drama" not mine anyway lol

 

2. Gamestop's future is widely talked about as dire by pretty much everyone, it isn't just me. Google it, don't live in denial. It's reality, unfortunately. They've lost like 90+% of their value as a company and their stock has dropped to like $3.85.

 

3. What Gamestop do you work at?



#2774 srocky26  

Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:54 PM

1. It's not "drama" not mine anyway lol

2. Gamestop's future is widely talked about as dire by pretty much everyone, it isn't just me. Google it, don't live in denial. It's reality, unfortunately. They've lost like 90+% of their value as a company and their stock has dropped to like $3.85.

3. What Gamestop do you work at?

Ah, typical CAG. Make a positive remark of a company and you’re now a fanboy or work there.

As I said, they’ll be around for a few years. No reason to try to incite fear.

#2775 Fuzzmeister  

Fuzzmeister

Posted 02 August 2019 - 12:02 AM

Put $25 down on the CoD goggles this afternoon in store.



#2776 ShadowAssassin   #TTP CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

ShadowAssassin

Posted 02 August 2019 - 12:23 AM

Ah, typical CAG. Make a positive remark of a company and you’re now a fanboy or work there.
As I said, they’ll be around for a few years. No reason to try to incite fear.


It was a joke dude. And I was offering a little forewarning, no reason not to, people can decide what they want to do on their own. The company is failing its worth keeping in mind. For some reason you’re very defensive of GameStop, it’s kinda odd. If you don’t think they will shut down for a few years then ok. Not really worth starting an argument over and getting all aggressive, we’ll see what happens.

#2777 Jakegreensego  

Jakegreensego

Posted 02 August 2019 - 12:43 AM

Gamestop will make it to the next gen console release and ride that wave for awhile

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#2778 knothead65  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 01:00 AM

What does all this Gamestop crap have to do with Collector's Editions? I set up alerts so I don't miss out on games and all I keep reading is how Gamestop is gonna close, by a dude that doesn't even like/shop there like what the  Fuck.



#2779 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   8699 Posts   Joined 8.2 Years Ago  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 01:42 AM

I really couldn't care either way if Gamestop goes under. I'm not rooting for it, I don't shop there much and whatever exclusives they get would just go elsewhere if they went under(probably publisher website exclusives for most of them). I mean it'd suck for a lot of people to lose their jobs though, but nothing can really be done about it. Companies go under all the time, it's just the way it goes.

Same here.  I'm indifferent.  I go there all the time to buy dorky gaming t-shirts when they are 10 bucks, certain clearance toys, or the occasional backpack.  But I won't be sad when they go under.   They also bought up every prime retail location and put every other game store out of business.  They overreached immensely.   They train and treat their workers like shit.   New cool gaming stores will pop up in their stead and there will be other places to shop. 

 

 

They're in serious serious trouble. It's not a matter of 'if' it's a matter if 'when' the only question is can they make it to the console launches in 2020? That will keep them afloat for a little longer, but in terms of games sales they just are done. Their model isn't sustainable.

Yeah, the writing has been on the wall for a couple years really.  GS is finished; everybody who reads the business articles knows it.  All potential investors have all backed out now due to the level of their unprofitability

 

 

Gamestop is trying to turn largely into retro game sales to shake it up per recent reports, but I don't see that working either. Retro games don't have a large market, it's a very niche demographic. It's going to be the end of an era, really.

Everybody likes retro games but nobody wants to pay for them.   2-5 years ago we had a single cool retro gaming store in just about every major mall and now they have all shut down.  People walk in, point at things, and walk out.  There are $60 NES classics now.  Old carts aren't the only way to own these games legally anymore.  The E-shop and PSN have come a long way too, finally selling old offerings again, and companies like Capcom and SquareEnix have found ways to monetize their most prestigious back catalogue titles.  



#2780 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   8699 Posts   Joined 8.2 Years Ago  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 01:46 AM

Tbh I see the firings as less of a doomsday sign and more that upper management realized how useless the DMs actually are. When I worked there the only thing they ever did was set insane goals and harass managers who were already overworked. The dude in my district wanted us to get preorders and GPGs on 50% of our transactions and sign 20 people up for the credit card every day. Basically encouraging that scummy GS behavior.

Yep.  It's a severe corporate culture problem starting from the very top all the way down through district management. 

 

 

All of your drama here is just stupid. People have been saying for years they’re going under in a matter of minutes, but they’re still there.

They’re not going anywhere for at least a few years. Sure, they cut managers; next, they’ll close stores that are obviously too close/ under performing.

There are good deals to be had if you play the system. Less competition is also terrible. Amazon matches GameStop’s sales and they’re often pretty decent when it comes to clearance prices. They’ve been running x games for x price off and on for most of the year, again good deals to be had.

Gamestop almost went bankrupt last year dude, wake up.  They lost $673 million in 2018 and could shutter their doors at any moment.  They failed to secure several rounds of funding and were hung out high and dry in multiple instances of potentially being bought out.   They are currently running on fumes.  THE ENTIRE CHAIN could have been purchased, owned, and rebranded by multiple entities by now EXCEPT NO ONE WANTS TO BUY IT. 



#2781 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   22942 Posts   Joined 15.3 Years Ago  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 02:18 AM

Gamestop almost went bankrupt last year dude, wake up.  They lost $673 million in 2018 and could shutter their doors at any moment.  They failed to secure several rounds of funding and were hung out high and dry in multiple instances of potentially being bought out.   They are currently running on fumes.  THE ENTIRE CHAIN could have been purchased, owned, and rebranded by multiple entities by now EXCEPT NO ONE WANTS TO BUY IT. 

That seemed kinda shocking but after looking at their financials, that's not true. They didn't lose $673m, they had a book loss of $673m after an impairment write down (basically a loss in value assets, not necessary physical loss) of $964m- likely a one time hit though it's likely they'll have another in 2019 (doubt it'll be as big). Their actual operations are still profitable, believe it not, though going down. Even if you factor out investment (money ownership put in), they pulled in cash in 2018 rather than burn through it. 

 

In short, GS isn't gonna die over night... but might in a few years. At their low point, some investment bank or lender will come in scoop them up and it'll likely survive for another year or two. I mean, look how long Sears survived. 



#2782 jbg87   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   566 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 02:36 AM

Does the Pokémon double pack come with a steelbook?

#2783 Jhingles  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 02:38 AM

Does the Pokémon double pack come with a steelbook?


Only the one imported from the EU.

#2784 jbg87   CAG Veteran CAGiversary!   566 Posts   Joined 8.5 Years Ago  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 02:40 AM

:/ that sucks

I ordered the Pokémon edition lite would be willing to get the double pack but I’d like a steelbook

#2785 srocky26  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 02:47 AM

Yep. It's a severe corporate culture problem starting from the very top all the way down through district management.


Gamestop almost went bankrupt last year dude, wake up. They lost $673 million in 2018 and could shutter their doors at any moment. They failed to secure several rounds of funding and were hung out high and dry in multiple instances of potentially being bought out. They are currently running on fumes. THE ENTIRE CHAIN could have been purchased, owned, and rebranded by multiple entities by now EXCEPT NO ONE WANTS TO BUY IT.

They’re going to be around for a few years. Nowhere have I said they have a sustainable business plan that will keep them around long term. You’re putting words in my mouth.

It’s tiresome to see this same conversation pop up from a bunch of armchair analysts every couple days. Even worse are the ones that want to post some YouTube video or Kotaku article thinking they’ve got the new hot-take on the situation. These are usually accompanied by some gripe they have with GameStop and that they feel they should just go out of business.

#2786 ck0  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 02:54 AM

That seemed kinda shocking but after looking at their financials, that's not true. They didn't lose $673m, they had a book loss of $673m after an impairment write down (basically a loss in value assets, not necessary physical loss) of $964m- likely a one time hit though it's likely they'll have another in 2019 (doubt it'll be as big). Their actual operations are still profitable, believe it not, though going down. Even if you factor out investment (money ownership put in), they pulled in cash in 2018 rather than burn through it. 

 

In short, GS isn't gonna die over night... but might in a few years. At their low point, some investment bank or lender will come in scoop them up and it'll likely survive for another year or two. I mean, look how long Sears survived. 

It's funny how the people that always mention this write off loss don't delve into the details.   They picked up that number from some sensationalistic headline or article, and then begin spouting it out, to buttress another 'Gamestop is dying, here's why' rant.  

 

Not a single one, claiming their impeding doom, has looked at their yearly financials.  Maybe they don't know how to read them.

 

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As for relating to this particular CE topic, you support physical, you get physical.   All those repeating the same BS "digital is the future" -- the future is what you make it.  Support physical -- if not at GS, then elsewhere, and it will remain alive.  Those that reserve themselves to a particular fate as if it is beyond their power to change are quite the pathetic bunch.



#2787 ShadowAssassin   #TTP CAGiversary!   4550 Posts   Joined 8.0 Years Ago  

ShadowAssassin

Posted 02 August 2019 - 03:01 AM

They’re going to be around for a few years. Nowhere have I said they have a sustainable business plan that will keep them around long term. You’re putting words in my mouth.
It’s tiresome to see this same conversation pop up from a bunch of armchair analysts every couple days. Even worse are the ones that want to post some YouTube video or Kotaku article thinking they’ve got the new hot-take on the situation. These are usually accompanied by some gripe they have with GameStop and that they feel they should just go out of business.


People are discussing their opinions of the future of GameStop on a discussion board. If that is tiresome to you, that’s your problem, no one else’s. You didn’t have to join in the conversation, but you felt compelled to do so. You don’t have to watch YouTube videos on it either. No one has been proven right on this matter yet, that will be decided in time. Your or my opinion aren’t better than anyone else’s. And I really don’t know when they will shut down. I think it’s possible they could be done by the end of 2020 but that’s no certainty, anything can happen. But you seemed really eager to jump in and tell me and others how we’re wrong because you know for sure and your opinion is the right one.

#2788 srocky26  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 03:05 AM

People are discussing their opinions of the future of GameStop on a discussion board. If that is tiresome to you, that’s your problem, no one else’s. You didn’t have to join in the conversation, but you felt compelled to do so. You don’t have to watch YouTube videos on it either. No one has been proven right on this matter yet, that will be decided in time. Your or my opinion aren’t better than anyone else’s. And I really don’t know when they will shut down. I think it’s possible they could be done by the end of 2020 but that’s no certainty, anything can happen. But you seemed really eager to jump in and tell me and others how we’re wrong because you know for sure and your opinion is the right one.

Came here expecting CE news and instead was told I should cancel any preorders with GS.

Check out the GS thread. You’ll get the same conversation this weekend.

#2789 Nothing-   Tomorrow King - Interloper Kai CAGiversary!   8699 Posts   Joined 8.2 Years Ago  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 03:09 AM

They’re going to be around for a few years. Nowhere have I said they have a sustainable business plan that will keep them around long term. You’re putting words in my mouth.

It’s tiresome to see this same conversation pop up from a bunch of armchair analysts every couple days. Even worse are the ones that want to post some YouTube video or Kotaku article thinking they’ve got the new hot-take on the situation. These are usually accompanied by some gripe they have with GameStop and that they feel they should just go out of business.

Good thing that I read more than one news article during the last couple of years.  You can sure tell who has read zero.  I guess we'll just completely ignore the FACT that GS stock has lost 90% of its valuation over the previous five years.  It sure is something when we have the ignoramuses calling other people "armchair analysts". 

 

I want you to remember this little back and forth we had here today when GS inevitably goes out of business or gets bought out within the next year or two. 



#2790 knothead65  

Posted 02 August 2019 - 03:13 AM

Someone should really start a "Why Gamestop is a Goner" thread so these idiots can go over there.