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[quote name='Indignate']I know right? It's like "Guys, you know that I can lose too? I don't have to win all the time."[/QUOTE]
I maintain that that last game was bullshit, yo.
 
damn another shooting in america
up your cardio and learn how to survive on twigs and berries folks this be the end times!
 
i dont understand spartan ops.
Spartans are supposedly the next step for humanity yet the spartan IVs seem like a pretty big step back
from the spartan IIs and IIIs

also don't understand why halsley is being prosecuted.
Obviously shes a piece of shit human being but anything she did had to be sanctioned by UNSC right?
When picking up John, she was escorted by Lt. Keyes, so its not like she went around kidnapping by herself.
Keyes was obviously a UNSC liason that prolly reported on what that bitch was up to.
or are they just using her as a scapegoat incase the word gets out? why would people believe that
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']i dont understand spartan ops.
Spartans are supposedly the next step for humanity yet the spartan IVs seem like a pretty big step back
from the spartan IIs and IIIs

also don't understand why halsley is being prosecuted.
Obviously shes a piece of shit human being but anything she did had to be sanctioned by UNSC right?
or are they just using her as a scapegoat incase the word gets out? why would people believe that[/QUOTE]
Original spartans were augmented with and were kidnapped as children spartan-IV's are regular human volunteers so yes they are a step back.

I don't know the whole story but apparently hasley didn't have permission to do what she did she apparently did this to fight whatever human enemy was at the time but luckily they were around to die to the covenant on time
 
[quote name='GUNNM']Original spartans were augmented with and were kidnapped as children spartan-IV's are regular human volunteers so yes they are a step back.

I don't know the whole story but apparently hasley didn't have permission to do what she did she apparently did this to fight whatever human enemy was at the time but luckily they were around to die to the covenant on time[/QUOTE]
hmm its a shame bungie stopped giving a fuck about halo's plot line after halo 2
now the story is a mess especially after they started fucking with canon established from the books years prior.
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']hmm its a shame bungie stopped giving a fuck about halo's plot line after halo 2
now the story is a mess especially after they started fucking with canon established from the books years prior.[/QUOTE]
Story lines from the books are constantly changed to fit the current video game's narrative so stop wasting money on books they're just milking the fans.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']I don't think it matters whether or not Bungie gives a fuck about Halo's plot line anymore...[/QUOTE]
Sure it does.

They made essential past plot decisions in halo 3 and reach that are now affecting current plotlines
They were especially irresponsible with canon in reach, completely ignoring 117's actions on reach and where he actually was, along with his interactions with halsley.

They basically made 2 or 3 of the books which were very good, canonically defunct.
just because they don't make the games anymore, doesn't mean their past decisions affect stuff now
 
[quote name='GUNNM']Story lines from the books are constantly changed to fit the current video game's narrative so stop wasting money on books they're just milking the fans.[/QUOTE]
Bungie said that whatevers in the game is "official" canon
but I always found the books to be more detailed and interesting.
 
[quote name='GUNNM']fuck books![/QUOTE]
i will say though,

i don't know the last time u guys went to a bookstore
but they have books for every single video that comes out nowadays.

they even have gears of war books lol
always wondered what those are like
 
[quote name='GUNNM']All I know is that redhead chick brand is from the books[/QUOTE]
hmm, "birthing programs"? maybe gears of war books are ok lol

reminds me of the game battle tanx
anybody remember that game? that game was the shit
 
[quote name='GUNNM']fuck books![/QUOTE]
fuck books based on videogames.

I may be the biggest fucking nerd I know - and I know some big fucking nerds - but that is one low to which I have not stooped.
 
You guys are missing out.
Theres some pretty good video game books out there.

Warcraft, bioshock, halo, some of them are really good. some of the old republic star wars books are amazing. Republic commandos series is a classic
especially considering we prolly won't get another of those games.
Not sure your a nerd until you read one tbh
 
why? us two meaning me and mrspicy? If we weren't talking you're saying gif posts and countless youtube videos of tattoo girls are better? (Well probably is.)

Why can't I just have idle conversation waiting for amazon's trade in deals to kick in? Are we paying for posting space?
 
I dont understand.
If you don't read them, does it take away from the games? No
but they do give you a better understanding of the universes and background info ect,
really depends on what the writers decide to concentrate on.

For example, the content expressed in the halo books is almost never discussed in the games, except for halo 4 (343 ftw)
but it does give me an elevated sense of what is happening in the universe,
and where master chief as character and person is coming from.
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']I dont understand.
If you don't read them, does it take away from the games? No
but they do give you a better understanding of the universes and background info ect,
really depends on what the writers decide to concentrate on.[/QUOTE]
Why are we debating this? I have no interest in video game books I'm not gonna start now.
I'm not gonna debate you jerry!

I'm gonna stop posting now indiginate doesn't like when you and me post.
 
I can't imagine why lol
I usually don't say anything when he goes on about his strange fascination with young boys who dress up
like girls from pokemon.

To each their own.
I'll just go read my video game books lol


oh yeah, some of the starcraft books are AMAZING. seriously.
liberty's crusade and speed of darkness are ridiculous
they got me into reading video game books in the first place.
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']
oh yeah, some of the starcraft books are AMAZING. seriously.[/QUOTE]
Well now I know you're just fucking with me.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Well now I know you're just fucking with me.[/QUOTE]
lol no joke.
i swear to you, if you read through either of those and you don't think it was acceptably good/better than expected, you can publicly disgrace me on the GGT


DO NOT read shadows of the xel'naga though
 
like 2001-2002

shadows is horrible. it has nothing to do with anything. I dont remeber zeratul being in it.
it was something about a little boy and edmond duke or some shit.

shadows is why video game books have a bad smack.
people will try them out and their first book is a bad one
and they swear off of them forever.

Video game books are like a box of chocolates.
some are delicious like those mint godiva chocolates.
others are disgusting like those raspberry fillings....ugh
 
Tim Schafer: "We made more on Psychonauts this year than we ever have before."
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']like 2001-2002

shadows is horrible. it has nothing to do with anything. I dont remeber zeratul being in it.
it was something about a little boy and edmond duke or some shit.

shadows is why video game books have a bad smack.
people will try them out and their first book is a bad one
and they swear off of them forever.[/QUOTE]It can't be any worse than the campaign of Wings of Liberty.

Usually when people say "Brood War was luck", they're talking about design, mechanics, and balance. But I'm convinced that Blizzard just accidentally stumbled on a more-or-less enjoyable plot with some cool characters in SC1.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Tim Schafer: "We made more on Psychonauts this year than we ever have before."
It can't be any worse than the campaign of Wings of Liberty.

Usually when people say "Brood War was luck", they're talking about design, mechanics, and balance. But I'm convinced that Blizzard just accidentally stumbled on a more-or-less enjoyable plot with some cool characters in SC1.[/QUOTE]
To be honest,

I'm not sure what to make of your strenuous relationship with Starcraft.
You seem to love to hate it, and sometimes you love to love it.

I will say I thoroughly enjoy starcraft in all its glory.
I believe SC1 to be one of the best games of all time.

And I really don't get all the misgivings about SC2.
Did you really hate it that much?
Was it single-player and multi-player that was bad?
I played both, and besides a serious shift in the dark, creepy starcraft-vibe from the 90's I so whole-heartily loved, I found nothing to complain about.

"Accidently stumbled"?
I guess that means you don't like Blizzard at all huh lol
Well, I don't know. I'm pretty sure Blizzard is my favorite developer of all time.
Between Starcraft, Diablo, and Warcraft, I think I've spent what amounts to years of real time within the worlds they've created
 
[quote name='GUNNM']Well they weren't brain washed as kids they're just normal humans[/QUOTE]
I don't think you need to be brainwashed. fuck, if I was a Spartan I'd be just like Chief.
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']To be honest,

I'm not sure what to make of your strenuous relationship with Starcraft.
You seem to love to hate it, and sometimes you love to love it.

I will say I thoroughly enjoy starcraft in all its glory.
I believe SC1 to be one of the best games of all time.
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And I really don't get all the misgivings about SC2.
Did you really hate it that much?
Was it single-player and multi-player that was bad?
I played both, and besides a serious shift in the dark, creepy starcraft-vibe from the 90's I so whole-heartily loved, I found nothing to complain about.

"Accidently stumbled"?
I guess that means you don't like Blizzard at all huh lol
Well, I don't know. I'm pretty sure Blizzard is my favorite developer of all time.
Between Starcraft, Diablo, and Warcraft, I think I've spent what amounts to years of real time within the worlds they've crea5ted[/QUOTE]
Hell, that post reads like an invitation for me to rant with fucks and shits and all those other words I like.

But I won't.

Instead I will say this:

Starcraft 1 - or more accurately, Starcraft Brood War - was fucking sweet-ass. Its campaign often boiled down to boring "turtle until suddenly carriers/BCs/guardians", the maps were pretty poorly made, the AI was spotty, it needed tons of patching, and it had a lot of turrible units like the infested terran and the scout. But it had an intriguing setting, some cool characters, some fantastic voice work, and incredible multiplayer, be it 1v1 or some bullshit UMS. The level of balance between the races is incredible (though the maps played on was a huge part of that), and there were so many beautiful, subtle little things that worked so well that Blizzard never intended (see: Muta stacking).

But where I loved Brood War, I like Starcraft 2. Its campaign gameplay is far more varied and interesting, but the dialogue and plot were among the worst I've seen in a videogame. Some of the new units, like the stalker, are really cool - but others, like the colossus, are godawful. Pathfinding has received badly needed changes, but the ridiculous level of unit clumping is bad for both gameplay and spectating. I think the once-controversial multiple building selection is great, but I feel that the massive control groups and smartcasting have done as much harm as good. Their ladder system is A Really Good Thing, but everything else about "Battle.net 2.0" was worse than what you got with Brood War, Diablo 2, or Warcraft 3 (no/awful chat channels, no shared replays, clumsy custom game system, etc.).

Perhaps the biggest problem I personally have with SC2 is a matter of "racial identity". For me, being a protoss meant armies of swordsmen charging through landmines eating tank shells with their faces while a giant fuck-off fleet loomed in the distance. It meant, "Hey, I have a reaver, you better respect that shit". But in SC2, that all changed to "everyone hide behind the forcefield because if we actually fight the other army we're hosed air units what are air units". Protoss looks like protoss, but it doesn't feel like protoss. Terran looks like terran, but it doesn't feel like terran. And that might seem like the pettiest nitpick in all of petty nitpick-town, but that's an important thing for a sequel, and that's a huge thing for this sequel.

So Heart of the Swarm. I can and have complained about a lot of things in SC2, and I've recognized for a long time that they are simply too big to address in a mere patch. Warpgates, clumpy pathfinding, units dying too quickly, etc.: changing those would change er'rything, so it's best we not deal with those until we have a chance to deal with er'rything. Like the chance that Heart of the Swarm gives.

But they've chosen not to touch those at all. Instead, they're throwing random things into the game and then taking things out whenever people point out how terrible they are. And through this process, it seems like they've come up with some legitimately cool things that I want to play with and against. And they've still got some really stupid things that my God why did they give huge buffs to mutas at the same time they weakened zerg anti-air what is wrong with them? But a lot of my core complaints remain.

As far as Blizzard in general? I've spent, like, two hours combined across the entire Warcraft franchise, so I don't really care about what's going on in World of Warcraft. I've spent quite a bit of time between Diablo 1 and 2, but haven't touched 3. I liked that series more as a "dive into a random dungeon where something horrible could be through any door so get exploring" sort of thing than the "c'mon man let's powerlevel your alt so we can start doing mephy runs don't forget to swap your MF gear in" thing it became. More "roguelike for casuals" than loot grind. I don't have a huge amount of faith in them these days, but they're alive and Ensemble Studios aren't, so what the fuck am I gonna do? It's not like they tried to murder the party-based WRPG or turn Xcom into an FPS, after all.
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']i dont understand spartan ops.
Spartans are supposedly the next step for humanity yet the spartan IVs seem like a pretty big step back
from the spartan IIs and IIIs

also don't understand why halsley is being prosecuted.
Obviously shes a piece of shit human being but anything she did had to be sanctioned by UNSC right?
When picking up John, she was escorted by Lt. Keyes, so its not like she went around kidnapping by herself.
Keyes was obviously a UNSC liason that prolly reported on what that bitch was up to.
or are they just using her as a scapegoat incase the word gets out? why would people believe that[/QUOTE]

[quote name='mrspicytacoman']Sure it does.

They made essential past plot decisions in halo 3 and reach that are now affecting current plotlines
They were especially irresponsible with canon in reach, completely ignoring 117's actions on reach and where he actually was, along with his interactions with halsley.

They basically made 2 or 3 of the books which were very good, canonically defunct.
just because they don't make the games anymore, doesn't mean their past decisions affect stuff now[/QUOTE]


Halsey is being scape-goated essentially for stuff that came to light after the war is over.

During the war no one cared to ask where the S2's came from, but after the war the secrets came out.


Also, the current book series writer Karen Traviss hates Halsey.
 
MrSpicyTacoMan,

I agree completely.
I've read most of the Halo books except for the ongoing Greg Bear books.
Please stop writing your posts like this.
This is a message forum,
not a poetry slam.
 
I've been assuming that he's posting from his phone but that's only because my phone is, like, eight years old and I have no idea what posting from a phone is like.
[quote name='panzerfaust']I just really dislike the C&C feel to SC2. Too much thrown in junk.[/QUOTE]
See, I never played C&C. I remember seeing a bunch of comparisons between SC2 and C&C stuff - like, the hellion literally a C&C unit or something? - but I don't really know what to make of that. I know that Dustin Browder (lead designer of SC2) worked on some C&C games before, but again, I've got no real reference point there.
 
All I remember from C&C is that you had the ability to build "fake" buildings.

It costs money and time to build something to "fake" out your enemy. Once it is complete, it was just a sitting building with no use.
 
yeah shit like that. just weird creative decisions that don't clash well together when played competitively.

landmines shooting rockets wut
 
[quote name='BlueScrote']Halsey is being scape-goated essentially for stuff that came to light after the war is over.

During the war no one cared to ask where the S2's came from, but after the war the secrets came out.


Also, the current book series writer Karen Traviss hates Halsey.[/QUOTE]
Thats what I figured
But I find it difficult to believe that people would actually believe she acted without the
sanction of the UNSC,
and that they knew exactly what kinda shady shit she was doing every step of the way.
I'm sure ONI would've looked into the project extensively
once they found out she was using flash cloning

My posts are purely lines of thought
leave me alone
or I'll start busting everything out in haiku form

also I need to find someone who has read the starcraft novels on this forum
 
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