snes classic O F F I C I A L thread

Just as I said months ago & many others also realized it as well, it don't matter how many Nintendo makes as long as people are paying $160-175 average (as of yesterday on ebay sold listings) then there won't be enough supply for demand. It's a domino effect, those doubling their money on them are going to be enticed to go reinvest for more. Also, many others will see them profiting with little work & want in on the parade. Can't fault people for wanting to make money but stores need to limit 1 per customer which I think most are doing & Nintendo needs to spit out as many of them as possible. Now when several people are lined up wanting 1 and the store has no limit and one person buys a truckload then I do have a problem with that. I don't know of that happening with these though although I'm sure it has but very seldom I would guess.

 
Faithful said:
Price is gonna fall like a rock on these on the secondary market. Just this morning on the most popular local trading site for my area (Craigslist isn't too popular here) I've seen one for $100 and another for $130. There are over 100 listings on that site which is a TON for my area. I can imagine once the shipped orders come in over the next week and the scalpers post those, no one is going to be buying these for much over MSRP. Bottom is gonna fall out on these. When BB and Target return deadlines start getting close (around the time we start to see restocks) I expect stores will have plenty of these.

If stock only trickles in over the next few weeks I could see a demand surge for the holidays but with the numbers we saw at launch I think there will be plenty to go around.
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Well, I've got to imagine tons of people saw "$" signs here, and bought it thinking it would be NES Mini money. I knew better than that, as even if demand isn't met, so many more people will now offer these, which is going to kill profits for all involved.

There's also plenty of time leading up to the holidays, so depending on production, prices may go up, or even down further. This was always going to be a bigger gamble, and since Xmas isn't 2 days away, there is no reason for anyone to pay much over retail, until supply has completely gone dry.

As for "N" and the typical back & forth being discussed here, I'll just say this.......these poor production issues only seem to be issues for them on a regular basis. I may see hiccups here and there for others, but around here, it's a guarantee for "N" and what they do. For a company that has been in business over 100+ years, the excuses really get old from the masses. If nothing else, they should have more and better long standing relationships across many manufacturing areas, but the reality is, they have burnt bridges, and do dumb shit on the regular. Any issues are problems are of their own making, and should not be excused just because.

 
For anyone stupid enough to still criticize Nintendo for being cautious with manufacturing, id like to point you to the Disney infinity fiasco which caused an entire studio to shut down.

Would you rather be short of stock or lose a ton of money?
 
Confucius said:
For anyone stupid enough to still criticize Nintendo for being cautious with manufacturing, id like to point you to the Disney infinity fiasco which caused an entire studio to shut down.

Would you rather be short of stock or lose a ton of money?
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Rare to see you post nowadays. ;D

 
Troe123 said:
Thanks for the response.

As of April, Nintendo sold 2.3 million NES classics. And then they discontinued it while there was still (very high) demand.

You're right companies likely won't suddenly 180 year-after-year. But Nintendo isn't a newcomer to the business. They've been involved in video games for over three decades. And especially when selling the same product with a new coat a paint a year later. And hardware-wise it isn't exactly boundary breaking tech (making mass production easier). Nintendo isn't some newcomer that unexpectedly created a hit product and does not have the industry experience/relationships to meet high demand. And this isn't Apple (or whatever tech company) having supply issues because they chose to use a new and scarce material for their iPhone screen or other product.

Nintendo's supply failures are inexcusable given the extremely predictable demand and their decades in the business. Nintendo's previous handling of the NES classic demonstrates a decision making problem and not a supply infrastructure problem.
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You're right. Nintendo isn't some random newcomer. I never implied they were though. Those toy makers aren't newcomers either (Hasbro, LEGO, and the like). Nintendo is one of MANY top companies. Not just one company can get majority of the product making pie and Nintendo isn't anymore important compared to other top companies. They may have leeway, but so does everyone else.

There is a reason that despite the high demand, Switch's are still hard to find. There is only so much a manufacturer can make for certain companies.

This stuff is very complicated guys. Nintendo sold 2.3 million yes, but the high demand peaked during the holiday season. You had people who still wanted it but not nearly as much. Nintendo discontinued their items at the right time so they don't have stores littered with them. The one time they decided not to, we had Amiibo's in every store (still do) and no sales for them.

Nintendo knows what the demand will be beyond what you or I do. We sit here thinking they don't know what their doing yet here they are selling out all their products, still having high profit returns and not worrying about stores having excess supply of products (like Skylanders or Disney Infinity products).

Vinny said:
Couldn't make it out yesterday but had to go to WM today. No luck, as expected.
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Yeah, almost all stores are OOS. A restock should come in a month though but should be very limited. Keep an eye out in case.


ChrisD0811 said:
Add me to the list of people that DID get one, with minimal effort, that STILL agrees that resellers are douchebags. Scalping is a ridiculous practice. They add zero value to the economy, and simply bleed extra funds from the end user.

Yes, Nintendo could solve the issue by producing more, but I truly hope every scalper is sent back a box of rocks, followed by a PayPal dispute/chargeback. It's dumb that there are folks that want one of these and can't obtain one, while some eBay sellers are posting pictures of dozens because they're trying to use scalping to put their Shaq-Fu'ing kids through college
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Does no one think it's weird that when someone hates another for what they think is an ethical reason, that they are fine with someone else doing something unethical to them? So you hate scalpers (which I understand why) but their karma should be someone commits fraud to them? What would you like happen to the person committing fraud than?

 
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Squeegor 2 said:
Maybe some are too lazy, maybe some have jobs and other obligations that take priority above game/system launches.. who knows.

Not sure what kind of lives some people lead that they have the time stand around waiting for stores to open but it must be nice. Personally I work 10-14 hour days and I'm not going to play hookie with my job for something that is 'nice to have' but isn't that important overall.

If staying up at night F5'ing or camping out before stores open are what it takes to have a hot item at non-scalper prices, then I'm fine with just not having one. I still don't own an NES Classic and still don't care. If I happen to stumble onto one at a store I'll grab one and be happy, but otherwise fuck it. So far the SNES Classic is looking to be the same deal.
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Nothing371 said:
Right, so you don't care.

I understand those sentiments. I have a good friend that shares the same perspective as you. But you also could have sent someone else from your family, your household, or one of your friends to the store for you yesterday and then tipped them twenty bucks or bought them a case of beer.

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Your perspective is a healthy one, but most people that are actually getting upset act entitled to one of these systems while putting in exactly zero effort. The whole Nintendo thing seems to have a lot of people initially telling themselves that they don't care, whereas in reality they end up getting frustrated over supply issues and begin lashing out at Nintendo and other people just because they didn't act when they had the chance. If people thought getting one yesterday was hard, well then they are in for a real treat because there won't be any other days this year where attaining a SNES classic will be any easier than yesterday.

Just like release day last year with the NES classic. Best Buys got ~50 units back then. Then when those were gone everyone else was left scrambling to acquire one. Demand skyrocketed. SNES classics are gone now and the same thing will be happening unless the restock days have similar volume as release day.

These things are $180 at this minute on Amazon. Unless they drop to < $120 the supply situation is going to remain exactly the same. You will never see one on shelves. It's free money to anyone who wants to put in a few minutes of work. I'm not advocating for it, but that's just the way it is.
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I haven't commented in like 7 years, but I signed in to do so just because of this post. I find it absurd that people who are FORTUNATE enough to have the time to line up or to have relatives/friends who are willing to do so criticize other, yes, like the other poster I'm replying to and myself, because we work and don't have close friends or family.

So, let me see, I work in IT, sometimes starting my days at 5am in daylong working sessions I can't come out of. So, should I have sent my wife, along with our 4 kids to wait in line for hours? What happens when they're hungry, or need to be changed, or get restless? Would you tolerate HOURS of dealing with 4 toddlers JUST for a SNES?

Or should I send my mother who runs a business, or my brothers who have no car or are in school? Maybe my nonexistent friends due to being an adult who works, has a house, and, again, young kids.

MY POINT IS: you aren't in a place to be saying someone else doesn't care or is too lazy, or whatever. Life doesn't align to Nintendo's stupid manufacturing decisions. We see it over and over, year after year. And, to the guy comparing the SNES Mini to the DIsney Infinity... seriously? A built in audience of us older gamers PLUS all new gamers vs. Disney Fans. Everyone needs to stop defending Nintendo. They make these stupid decisions on purpose over and over.

Come at me, bro's.

 
One thing I wanted to add to the discussion.

Yesterday, I was #18 in line at a Gamestop with 17 SNES units. Yeah yeah FML.

The manager said (& this can be very YMMV) that it's possible to call on Sunday to see if there's any preorder not picked up. A long shot and all that but something to consider if you want to use GS credit.

 
ThatOneGuyWho said:
You're right. Nintendo isn't some random newcomer. I never implied they were though. Those toy makers aren't newcomers either (Hasbro, LEGO, and the like). Nintendo is one of MANY top companies. Not just one company can get majority of the product making pie and Nintendo isn't anymore important compared to other top companies. They may have leeway, but so does everyone else.

There is a reason that despite the high demand, Switch's are still hard to find. There is only so much a manufacturer can make for certain companies.

This stuff is very complicated guys. Nintendo sold 2.3 million yes, but the high demand peaked during the holiday season. You had people who still wanted it but not nearly as much. Nintendo discontinued their items at the right time so they don't have stores littered with them. The one time they decided not to, we had Amiibo's in every store (still do) and no sales for them.

Nintendo knows what the demand will be beyond what you or I do. We sit here thinking they don't know what their doing yet here they are selling out all their products, still having high profit returns and not worrying about stores having excess supply of products (like Skylanders or Disney Infinity products).

Yeah, almost all stores are OOS. A restock should come in a month though but should be very limited. Keep an eye out in case.


Does no one think it's weird that when someone hates another for what they think is an ethical reason, that they are fine with someone else doing something unethical to them? So you hate scalpers (which I understand why) but their karma should be someone commits fraud to them? What would you like happen to the person committing fraud than?
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I see what you're saying about the manufacturing, but, look, Nintendo's money is as good as anyone's. If the request X amount of units, they'll get them. They apparently DON'T understand demand better than anyone of us because if they did, they wouldn't have discontinued the NES Classic when they did.

Also, why the hell overproduce Amiibos? I mean, I know they were in huge demand, but they are accessories. Don't overproduce accessories. It's the BASE product they need to make more of. I had to hunt for weeks nonstop for the Switch and decided I couldn't afford that behavior psychologically again. Whoever makes the calls on the numbers to produce is, demonstrably, severely wrong.

 
qcesarjr said:
I see what you're saying about the manufacturing, but, look, Nintendo's money is as good as anyone's. If the request X amount of units, they'll get them. They apparently DON'T understand demand better than anyone of us because if they did, they wouldn't have discontinued the NES Classic when they did.
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No they won't. There is only so much supplies to make a product and manufacturers to make it. Nintendo may want 2 million of a product but too bad, there isn't enough resources (time, supplies, workers) to make that happen in the time they want.

There is a reason major companies just like Nintendo can barely keep up stock during the holidays because no matter how big of a company you are, there isn't enough resources to go around.

 
I never knew there were so many experts here regarding manufacturing and distribution. Screw college. CAG threads are my new textbook.

 
Cagg said:
I never knew there were so many experts here regarding manufacturing and distribution. Screw college. CAG threads are my new textbook.
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Everyone here is has a phd in supply chain. You need to email a copy to cheapy d to sign up.
 
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I happened to be in the area of my local Target around 9AM yesterday so I took the shot and stopped in. No line no waiting, got one. According to the guy they had a limit of one. Stopped in again around 6 and they were sold out. 

 
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Yeah, almost all stores are OOS. A restock should come in a month though but should be very limited. Keep an eye out in case.
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Was this confirmed, that it would take a month before another restock?

I'll be traveling a lot starting in 3 weeks so probably not gonna be able to get one for a while but oh well, not like I have time to play it anyway. Ha.

 
Vinny said:
Was this confirmed, that it would take a month before another restock?

I'll be traveling a lot starting in 3 weeks so probably not gonna be able to get one for a while but oh well, not like I have time to play it anyway. Ha.
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It wasnt. Just goin by the usual trend so check regularly just in case there is one sooner.
 
ThatOneGuyWho said:
It wasnt. Just goin by the usual trend so check regularly just in case there is one sooner.
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I feel like I should have tried to sneak out of work for an hour to get to a WM or Target or something for one but working in downtown Chicago, I figure there were tons of people who did the same thing.

Oh well, seems like this is going better than the NES Classic so I'll just try my luck.

 
qcesarjr said:
I haven't commented in like 7 years, but I signed in to do so just because of this post. I find it absurd that people who are FORTUNATE enough to have the time to line up or to have relatives/friends who are willing to do so criticize other, yes, like the other poster I'm replying to and myself, because we work and don't have close friends or family.

So, let me see, I work in IT, sometimes starting my days at 5am in daylong working sessions I can't come out of. So, should I have sent my wife, along with our 4 kids to wait in line for hours? What happens when they're hungry, or need to be changed, or get restless? Would you tolerate HOURS of dealing with 4 toddlers JUST for a SNES?

Or should I send my mother who runs a business, or my brothers who have no car or are in school? Maybe my nonexistent friends due to being an adult who works, has a house, and, again, young kids.

MY POINT IS: you aren't in a place to be saying someone else doesn't care or is too lazy, or whatever. Life doesn't align to Nintendo's stupid manufacturing decisions. We see it over and over, year after year. And, to the guy comparing the SNES Mini to the DIsney Infinity... seriously? A built in audience of us older gamers PLUS all new gamers vs. Disney Fans. Everyone needs to stop defending Nintendo. They make these stupid decisions on purpose over and over.

Come at me, bro's.
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4 kids?!? Your solution is to trade one for an SNES Classic, "obvs". Maybe even 2 for 1 (can't say which without knowing the quality of the children whether it should be 2 SNESC's for 1 of them, or vice versa).

Joking of course. Maybe.

 
I've heard about Sony or Xbox or somebody air shipping in consoles so there would be enough for the holiday. It makes sense losing money in the short run if you can make it up in the long run. There is no way to make more money off these. There is nothing good for Nintendo in boosting production if it costs more. There is no reason to lose money with faster shipping if you have to make your money from the one product. Yeah, Nintendo takes a pretty conservative outlook to this stuff, but I really think there will be enough out there once we get a couple more shipments... :)

 
arsenalcrazy8 said:
well it does look like these wont be hard to get - which IS what Nintendo promised, so good on them.

Although I should probably wait till after the Christmas season to reserve judgment.
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Good. Hopefully the reseller scumbags break even.

Instead of blowing their welfare money on in-demand products to flip they should just get jobs like normal people.

 
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Vinny said:
Oh well, seems like this is going better than the NES Classic so I'll just try my luck.
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Well, if Reggie is to be believed(which I've yet to see any truth from him ever), "N" should be making these until interest slows, and then I'm guessing they'll convert production back over to the NES, and then offer those again.

So unless someone really needs one for the holidays, these should be produced until demand has been met, or at least longer than the NES was. So you may have to work a little harder to get one for Xmas, but if buyers are willing to wait, supply should still be around after the new year.

Just based on what I've seen at local stores, inventory seems to be up for all "N" related items, so it seems they aren't looking to lose out this holiday with no hardware to be had from early December thru March like last year. The new 2DS XL is every place, as that is probably their best 3DS family offering, as it's probably the cheapest to make, and with the new XL model, probably has the biggest profit margins of any of the models.

And with all the models being offered in a very short period of time(it just released, and there are several CE, as well as the standard colors), this seems to be their last holiday push for the 2DS/3DS's. As normally they would spread the special ones out over more time, but they seem to be in a rush to get all the options out before the holidays.

 
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Faithful said:
Price is gonna fall like a rock on these on the secondary market. Just this morning on the most popular local trading site for my area (Craigslist isn't too popular here) I've seen one for $100 and another for $130. There are over 100 listings on that site which is a TON for my area. I can imagine once the shipped orders come in over the next week and the scalpers post those, no one is going to be buying these for much over MSRP. Bottom is gonna fall out on these. When BB and Target return deadlines start getting close (around the time we start to see restocks) I expect stores will have plenty of these.

If stock only trickles in over the next few weeks I could see a demand surge for the holidays but with the numbers we saw at launch I think there will be plenty to go around.
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On my local Craiglist the number of them posted has doubled in the past day and all the ones that were $250-300 are now $150-125. You can even tell where some have cut the price in the description but forgot the price in the header. I've got a feeling they aren't getting any bites and are getting uncomfortable. EBay has over 8,600 posted and active. Looks like the return desks are going to be really busy.

 
And since it is an unsealed console, these returns would probably be sent back to manufacturer, and not back on the floor.  But I really don't see any of these being returned in the near future unless they get another huge shipment in about a week or two.  But the fact that amazon and walmart "claim" they will be shipping a lot of orders in the next week or two, maybe there will be.

 
If you got an 8bitdo Retro Receiver for your NES Classic, you can use it with your SNES Classic after a firmware update. Without the firmware update, only the NES subset of buttons will work (D-pad, select, start, B, A).

If you don't already have a receiver and controllers from your NES Classic, get the new SN30 2.4G controller. It's only $25 each and includes a receiver.

The only annoying thing about 8bitdo controllers is remembering to charge them before use. You could leave them plugged in all the time, but I assume that'll lead to battery degradation over time.

 
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Did anyone happen to get the SNES Classic CE Prima book from Gamestop? It had an exclusive litho print for SF2, and I was wondering if it's worth the extra funds, as it can be had for $20 less at Amazon(without the print of course).

 
defpally said:
On my local Craiglist the number of them posted has doubled in the past day and all the ones that were $250-300 are now $150-125. You can even tell where some have cut the price in the description but forgot the price in the header. I've got a feeling they aren't getting any bites and are getting uncomfortable. EBay has over 8,600 posted and active. Looks like the return desks are going to be really busy.
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lmao no one is going to be returning this.

 
The Punisher said:
Let's hope that more is coming within a few weeks. Still trying to get one to play final fantasy 3.
Wish Lufia and final fantasy 2 was on it, but cool that earthbound and super mario RPG is on it.
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Lufia was so damn good. Man I played that game so damn much.

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You know what I just realized would be a brilliant marketing move for Nintendo (and I hope they are listening... Reggie are you there?); What if the re-release of the NES Classic as the gen 2 top loader model instead of the OG one? I’d buy it again in a heartbeat. Plus they could mix up the lineup.


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Market has stabilized at $160 over the past two days so the mad nerds can stop posting their salty tears over things that don't affect them. Money makes the world go 'round and crying isn't going to change it.

 
qcesarjr said:
I haven't commented in like 7 years, but I signed in to do so just because of this post. I find it absurd that people who are FORTUNATE enough to have the time to line up or to have relatives/friends who are willing to do so criticize other, yes, like the other poster I'm replying to and myself, because we work and don't have close friends or family.

So, let me see, I work in IT, sometimes starting my days at 5am in daylong working sessions I can't come out of. So, should I have sent my wife, along with our 4 kids to wait in line for hours? What happens when they're hungry, or need to be changed, or get restless? Would you tolerate HOURS of dealing with 4 toddlers JUST for a SNES?

Or should I send my mother who runs a business, or my brothers who have no car or are in school? Maybe my nonexistent friends due to being an adult who works, has a house, and, again, young kids.

MY POINT IS: you aren't in a place to be saying someone else doesn't care or is too lazy, or whatever. Life doesn't align to Nintendo's stupid manufacturing decisions. We see it over and over, year after year. And, to the guy comparing the SNES Mini to the DIsney Infinity... seriously? A built in audience of us older gamers PLUS all new gamers vs. Disney Fans. Everyone needs to stop defending Nintendo. They make these stupid decisions on purpose over and over.

Come at me, bro's.
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I have to agree, first of all I am not lining up for a product for any reason, just no way, I am not doing it. Yes I have the time to do it, but again even with the time, I am not doing it. Basically, I am not going out of my way to buy any product. There is nothing that is so important to me that I have to have that I would wake up at 7am and get to a store early and stand outside in a line for hours just to get a product. I have no kids so I don't need to buy the hottest toy, and even if I did have kids, they would be told they can't have it if I could not find it at retail price, they would not die if they did not get a toy believe me, especially one they will play with for 5 min and then put away for eternity. If I want a product and I cannot find one on the shelf, then I am probably not buying it. I would NEVER pay a scalper to get something. I do not need a SNES classic to survive, and if I want to play these games, there are plenty of other ways to do that including my original SNES that I already own.

I have no problem with placing a preorder in a store or online for a game though, or possibly another product, as long as I don't have to wait in a huge line, which I never have had to. I have always been able to pick up a preorder within 24 hours of the release, if I can't I simply call the store and tell them why and they usually have no problem holding it for me.

 
Jodou said:
Market has stabilized at $160 over the past two days so the mad nerds can stop posting their salty tears over things that don't affect them. Money makes the world go 'round and crying isn't going to change it.
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Publicly denouncing trashy people is not the same as getting mad and crying

Want to make money? Work. Don't be a parasite and profit off the labor of others.

 
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I think that's supposed to say tears, and not salt, since that would actually dehydrate America not flood it.

Good effort though. ;D

edit: Approved! ^__^!

 
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Scalpers rejoice! SNES classics sold listings on ebay show that they are holding their price thanks to all the people willing to pay double or more retail. Nicely played scalpers, you're assumption that people have more money than patience was correct. 

 
Squarehard said:
Yeah!

Get a job, so others can profit off of your labor instead!
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Well that's not a very healthy perspective on life Squarehard. I'm thankful there are scientists, engineers and computer programmers who do contribute their labor and make possible things like the SNES Classic, as well as the devices and network infrastructure that make all this bickering about scalpers possible.

 
Speaking of scalpers...

ps2emotions said:
Scalpers rejoice! SNES classics sold listings on ebay show that they are holding their price thanks to all the people willing to pay double or more retail. Nicely played scalpers, you're assumption that people have more money than patience was correct.
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...they get a really bad rap around here but what about the people that pay their inflated prices? I don't respect the practice of scalping (and it's definitely not "hard work" lol, don't give me that) but at the same time if someone is dumb enough to give you their money, why shouldn't you take it, right??

I'm just being the devil's advocate there of course to point out that the problem isn't one-dimensional. If you didn't get anything you wanted because of scalpers in your area, be sure to also dole out some frustration at the people making their practice worth their while.

 
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