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Oh, Chicago Cubs. You have the worst infield in all of pro baseball and I love every minute of it.

Chris Heisey bunted into a triple tonight. I'm not sure if it was scored as a triple, but nevertheless, who ever bunts and ends up on third base? :lol:
 
It's quite something after the start they had, but with the Red Sox current hot streak they are currently have the highest playoff odds according to Baseball Prospectus:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

Only a game back in the loss column now, though I suspect their immediate future will hinge greatly on what (if anything) they get out of the 4 and 5 spots in the rotation. I'm not exactly inspired by the idea of Wakefield and Aceves (who would be?), though at the very least they can't be too much worse than Lackey and Dice-K were.
 
Phillies called up Dominic Brown today after putting Victorino on the DL. I'm very pleased with this, I don't think he got the opportunity he deserved last year. He needed to put in more than he was able to to get a real good feel for him in the majors. Hopefully he'll get a lot of playing time with Victorino out and Francisco and Ibanez sucking ass.
 
And the Red Sox slaughter the Cubs to climb within half a game of first place, passing the Yankees in the process (what we New Englanders like to refer to as a good night). The terrible start is far from forgotten, but the way the three teams atop the AL East are playing right now, the Red Sox look like they might just have it in them to run away with the division the way everyone thought they would at the beginning of the season.
 
On another note, DeRosa partially tore his tendon in his left wrist again, he should just retire and the Giants just wash their hands of it, pretty big waste of money there since they knew he had a wrist injury to begin with.
 
[quote name='bvharris']And the Red Sox slaughter the Cubs to climb within half a game of first place, passing the Yankees in the process (what we New Englanders like to refer to as a good night). The terrible start is far from forgotten, but the way the three teams atop the AL East are playing right now, the Red Sox look like they might just have it in them to run away with the division the way everyone thought they would at the beginning of the season.[/QUOTE]

Did you forget the team in first, also had a bad start like the Red Sox? I would say playing the Marlins is more of a challenge than playing the Cubs right now.

Also, in other news, the AL West is so bad Seattle is only 2.5 games out. :D
 
[quote name='Nate Nanjo']Did you forget the team in first, also had a bad start like the Red Sox? I would say playing the Marlins is more of a challenge than playing the Cubs right now.
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I didn't, but I do think the Sox are playing better baseball right now, and are a better team overall. I expect the Rays to finish no better than 3rd in the division. If they do hang around it will be on the strength of their rotation. I don't think the quality of bullpen work they've received so far is sustainable though, especially not from Farnsworth.

On another note, Adrian Gonzalez certainly hasn't taken much time to endear himself to the Red Sox faithful. I wish he was walking a bit more (to get ye olde OPS up near 1.000), but the man is addicted to RBI - .342 in May with 26 RBI on 26 hits, that's one productive gentleman.
 
It's good to see that Cleveland's followed up their two-game sweep by Chicago with a three-game sweep of Cincinnati to get back on track despite having Grady Sizemore and Travis Hafner on the DL. Asdrubal Cabrera's been a great surprise as a power hitter as he already has nine homers, three more than he's ever gotten in one season.
 
I have no idea how I lived before I got to see Adrian Gonzalez hit every day. I honestly wasn't convinced I would see a better natural hitter than Manny Ramirez (by natural I mean the swing, not the contents of his bloodstream. :roll:) play for the Sox in my lifetime, but I think Gonzalez is it. As a baseball fan, it's a treat to watch the man work. He's going to put many many dents in the Green Monster over the next seven years.
 
I hope Seattle can stay in the AL West hunt for a while and add a solid hitter around the trade deadline, call up Ackley, or do both.
 
lol@The Mets. I didnt think we would beat the yankees but i just want to know why he left Pelfrey in an inning longer than he should have been...and why walk to get to A-Rod. He is a beast when that happens...but i guess it was a lose lose anyway. Tex would have blasted one out of the park or A-Rod would have.

i can't wait to see what happens to the Mets when they deal Reyes and Beltran. That stadium will be an utter ghost town.
 
Edison Valquez has been sent to AAA after a big loss to the Indians, so that's the second pitcher in the past few series that has beaten back to the minors.

Also, Justin Masterson seems to be turning into Goldberg.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Where were all your posts the last couple years when the Indians were losing 90+ games?[/QUOTE]

He was probably too busy watching LeBron. It's Sports Law that Cleveland can only have, at most, one decent sports team at a time.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Edison Valquez has been sent to AAA after a big loss to the Indians, so that's the second pitcher in the past few series that has beaten back to the minors.

Also, Justin Masterson seems to be turning into Goldberg.[/QUOTE]

It's Volquez, super sports fan.

And Volquez is trash. His performances have been appalling this year since the start of the season. It had nothing to do with one loss against a great team from a trash city, and everything to do with his consistently appalling performances this season.

In other news, looks like Volquez left his pitching style with Bronson Arroyo tonight. Or is he Arrayo, Frisky?
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']You're such a fairweather fan. Where were all your posts the last couple years when the Indians were losing 90+ games?[/QUOTE]
fuck you. I've been following the Indians since 95 and have only wained in interest following the trades of all the fan favorites after losing the ALCS in 07. I've never really felt like discussing them on a message board before because I don't really pay attention to all 162 games in a season, though I guess this thread is the only thing that can prove that I'm an actual fan.

[quote name='bvharris']He was probably too busy watching LeBron. It's Sports Law that Cleveland can only have, at most, one decent sports team at a time.[/QUOTE]
If there's one team that Cleveland fans care about the most, it's the Browns by a mile. Anybody that has a clue about Cleveland sports knows that.

The Indians' management did a great job in alienating most of the fans over the past three seasons, which is why they've set record lows in attendance a few times at the beginning of the season and have only started to get them back with their success and promotions. Cavs fans are definitely fairweather, which is why they've sold out most of their home games, even during the stretch. I don't watch most Cavs/Indians games since I don't watch much TV to begin with along with the fact that their seasons are too long to really watch and obsess over every game.

[quote name='mykevermin']It's Volquez, super sports fan.

And Volquez is trash. His performances have been appalling this year since the start of the season. It had nothing to do with one loss against a great team from a trash city, and everything to do with his consistently appalling performances this season.

In other news, looks like Volquez left his pitching style with Bronson Arroyo tonight. Or is he Arrayo, Frisky?[/QUOTE]
You should just report the post and have it removed next time if a typo is so offensive to you.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']It's Volquez, super sports fan.

And Volquez is trash. His performances have been appalling this year since the start of the season. It had nothing to do with one loss against a great team from a trash city, and everything to do with his consistently appalling performances this season.

In other news, looks like Volquez left his pitching style with Bronson Arroyo tonight. Or is he Arrayo, Frisky?[/QUOTE]
You should just report the post and have it removed next time if a typo is so offensive to you.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']fuck you. I've been following the Indians since 95 and have only wained in interest following the trades of all the fan favorites after losing the ALCS in 07. I've never really felt like discussing them on a message board before because I don't really pay attention to all 162 games in a season, though I guess this thread is the only thing that can prove that I'm an actual fan.[/quote]

So your interest has returned now that they're winning again? That's the fucking definition of a fairweather fan.

I'm not saying you're not a real fan. I know you post about the Browns in the NFL threads. That alone says you have the ability to care about a shit team.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']You should just report the post and have it removed next time if a typo is so offensive to you.[/QUOTE]

Nope. It's not a typo, it's further evidence that you have no bloody clue what you're talking about. Volquez has faced 63+ batters in the first inning in 7-8 starts this year. He averages going through *an entire lineup in the first fucking inning.* After yesterday's game, in speaking to the press, he said the Reds offense needed to step up - they weren't winning games because the offense wasn't producing.

They put his ass on a bus with no hesitation.

And you think the mistakes from the lake are the causal factor here? Proof positive you're a fairweather fan - you attribute things to your team's brilliance that couldn't be further from the truth, and a myopic view of things. You've no real place of expertise to make a statement, but you do anyway. It was a damnfool uninformed thing to say, so you get called on it.

It's not my fault you have no clue what you're saying, just like it's not the Indians' fault Volquez is gonna go load the bases in AAA ball for a few weeks. It's Volquez's fault.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']So your interest has returned now that they're winning again? That's the fucking definition of a fairweather fan.

I'm not saying you're not a real fan. I know you post about the Browns in the NFL threads. That alone says you have the ability to care about a shit team.[/QUOTE]
My interest returned before the season began when they were destined for another terrible season, not within the past few weeks. I started posting in here around the second game of the season, when they were 0-2 and on their way to another great season.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Nope. It's not a typo, it's further evidence that you have no bloody clue what you're talking about. Volquez has faced 63+ batters in the first inning in 7-8 starts this year. He averages going through *an entire lineup in the first fucking inning.* After yesterday's game, in speaking to the press, he said the Reds offense needed to step up - they weren't winning games because the offense wasn't producing.

They put his ass on a bus with no hesitation.

And you think the mistakes from the lake are the causal factor here? Proof positive you're a fairweather fan - you attribute things to your team's brilliance that couldn't be further from the truth, and a myopic view of things. You've no real place of expertise to make a statement, but you do anyway. It was a damnfool uninformed thing to say, so you get called on it.

It's not my fault you have no clue what you're saying, just like it's not the Indians' fault Volquez is gonna go load the bases in AAA ball for a few weeks. It's Volquez's fault.[/QUOTE]
Where did I ever say I knew everything about Volquez? For fuck's sake, I saw that he was sent down to AAA after the Indians game like Vin Mazzaro and made a super serious comment about the coincidence. Stop taking things so goddamn seriously. A comment about Volquez shouldn't be getting this much of a reaction out of anybody.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Where did I ever say I knew everything about Volquez? For fuck's sake, I saw that he was sent down to AAA after the Indians game like Vin Mazzaro and made a super serious comment about the coincidence. Stop taking things so goddamn seriously. A comment about Volquez shouldn't be getting this much of a reaction out of anybody.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Edison Valquez has been sent to AAA after a big loss to the Indians, so that's the second pitcher in the past few series that has beaten back to the minors.[/QUOTE]

Your words, dude. You're giving the Indians credit for his demotion when there was plenty of reason to do so long before Sunday. His words sealed the deal more than his runs.

I don't expect you to be an expert on Volquez. But if you're going to have an opinion on why he's headed back to the minors, at least have pay some attention to baseball.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Your words, dude. You're giving the Indians credit for his demotion when there was plenty of reason to do so long before Sunday. His words sealed the deal more than his runs.

I don't expect you to be an expert on Volquez. But if you're going to have an opinion on why he's headed back to the minors, at least have pay some attention to baseball.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that right above a sentence comparing Justin Masterson to Goldberg? It was a lighthearted comment, not serious analysis, though I'll refrain from doing so from now on without including proper notification.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']You're such a fairweather fan. Where were all your posts the last couple years when the Indians were losing 90+ games?[/QUOTE]

There's a few of them on this site. I called out someone last year when the Giants were in the NLCS who decided to start posting how great the Giants were after not posting in an MLB thread the 3 previous years.

Nice to see the Phillies remembered how to score more than 3 runs in a game. Too bad Utley was the only one who didn't have a hit all night, hopefully his bat will come back tomorrow against Cueto.
 
Nice to see the offense return tonight with Cruz and Hamilton both getting homers. I hope this can continue for the other pitchers in the lineup. Since Hamilton broke his arm their offense has just been terrible and so many solid pitching performances have been wasted. Plus bigger leads mean a better chance that the bullpen won't blow the game.
 
[quote name='tcrash247']Nice to see the Phillies remembered how to score more than 3 runs in a game. Too bad Utley was the only one who didn't have a hit all night, hopefully his bat will come back tomorrow against Cueto.[/QUOTE]

Vance Worley? a/k/a the guy who isn't even Blanton? There's no way the Reds should let their streak extend to six with Cueto at the helm.

I'm hoping to make it to this game tomorrow.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Vance Worley? a/k/a the guy who isn't even Blanton? There's no way the Reds should let their streak extend to six with Cueto at the helm.

I'm hoping to make it to this game tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

a.k.a. the guy who is better than Blanton. He's only had 4 starts in his big league career so far, but they've all been quality. He even held Atlanta to 1 hit last year through 5 IP. Don't dismiss him because you don't know him and there's no reason to even bring up Blanton's name. He's trash and we all know it, you should want to face Blanton instead.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']The Indians would be in Chicago/Minnesota territory without Asdrubal's huge turnaround this season.[/QUOTE]

ESPN just called him the No. 1 shortstop in baseball according to a clip I saw on the xbox. Funny thing was they had the guy Seattle traded for on there (now an ESPN analyst) in the deal that sent Cabrera to Cleveland talking about it after the host ribbed him.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']i can't wait to see what happens to the Mets when they deal Reyes and Beltran. That stadium will be an utter ghost town.[/QUOTE]

How's the comments the Mets owner made about Reyes and Beltran playing among the fans?
 
[quote name='tcrash247']a.k.a. the guy who is better than Blanton. He's only had 4 starts in his big league career so far, but they've all been quality. He even held Atlanta to 1 hit last year through 5 IP. Don't dismiss him because you don't know him and there's no reason to even bring up Blanton's name. He's trash and we all know it, you should want to face Blanton instead.[/QUOTE]

Worley wasn't bad tonight.

Wasn't good enough, but wasn't bad. At least he didn't take the L.

Really sloppy fielding from both teams tonight.

I'd rather see Bailey pitch vs Halladay tomorrow instead of vs Lee, but Wood has some potential.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Worley wasn't bad tonight.

Wasn't good enough, but wasn't bad. At least he didn't take the L.

Really sloppy fielding from both teams tonight.

I'd rather see Bailey pitch vs Halladay tomorrow instead of vs Lee, but Wood has some potential.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, and while I'm not happy about Madson not keeping the game tied, for some reason I'd rather see him lose in a tie than blow a save. I guess it's so I can say he's still perfect in save opportunities.

Hoping Halladay gets his ML leading 7th win tonight!
 
I'm quite enjoying the Red Sox spending the afternoon putting the whole "the Cleveland Indians are the best team in baseball" thing to bed, hopefully for good.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I'm quite enjoying the Red Sox spending the afternoon putting the whole "the Cleveland Indians are the best team in baseball" thing to bed, hopefully for good.[/QUOTE]

The Sox are lucky Beckett beat Cleveland last night, or else he would be headed for Pawtucket right about now.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']The Sox are lucky Beckett beat Cleveland last night, or else he would be headed for Pawtucket right about now.[/QUOTE]

What? This was either a joke I didn't get, or the most mind-numbingly stupid thing I've ever read in this thread. I really hope it's the former.
 
[quote name='bvharris']What? This was either a joke I didn't get, or the most mind-numbingly stupid thing I've ever read in this thread. I really hope it's the former.[/QUOTE]

According to Frisky, losing to the Indians comes with the risk of being demoted.

[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Edison Valquez has been sent to AAA after a big loss to the Indians, so that's the second pitcher in the past few series that has beaten back to the minors.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']According to Frisky, losing to the Indians comes with the risk of being demoted.[/QUOTE]

Haha, good. I'm relieved that I simply missed the joke. :D
 
[quote name='Nate Nanjo']Dear, bvharris

Pull for the Mariners to sweep the Yankees this weekend. :D

Hopefull M's Fan.

So close to getting over .500. ;_;[/QUOTE]

I never need any encouragement whatsoever to hope the Yankees lose every game, trust me.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']According to Frisky, losing to the Indians comes with the risk of being demoted.[/QUOTE]
As I said before, I've learned my lesson to never write anything here that isn't 100% serious. :whistle2:(
 
[quote name='tcrash247']Looks like the Phillies found a new reliever in Wilson Valdez. He's better at pitching than he is at hitting.[/QUOTE]

Fun game to watch, but I put the loss on Brandon Phillips. He agrees, it should have been over in 11.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Fun game to watch, but I put the loss on Brandon Phillips. He agrees, it should have been over in 11.[/QUOTE]

Yep, they definitely should have won, I don't know what he was doing.
 
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