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[quote name='Kaijufan']Anyone else a little disappointed by the lack of Baltar trial. It's like the guys making the ads took every single thing about the trial from this episode and put it in the 30 second spot. 
Still, I did enjoy seeing Helo and Sharon together as a family. The medical storyline was a little predictable though.
I hate how hard it is to find the topic you want in the search. I couldn't find this with Battlestar or Battlestar Galactica while searching the OT fourm, I had to search for myself in the OT fourm.
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disappointed, yes..but i am fairly sure I read/heard this somewhere
so it will be awhile.
The show,imo, really seemed to be a fluffer...it showed what happened to the former #2 (he was #2 at the start of the season)on the ship in helo and how far he had fallen from adama's grace. That being due to several incidences where helio did what he felt was right regardless to orders. It was good to see that he might be brought back into the cic, but this was a really small story arc imo that didnt push the seasons story arc along at all.
Still, I did enjoy seeing Helo and Sharon together as a family. The medical storyline was a little predictable though.
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[/quote]disappointed, yes..but i am fairly sure I read/heard this somewhere
the season finale is the begining or the end of the actual trial..
The show,imo, really seemed to be a fluffer...it showed what happened to the former #2 (he was #2 at the start of the season)on the ship in helo and how far he had fallen from adama's grace. That being due to several incidences where helio did what he felt was right regardless to orders. It was good to see that he might be brought back into the cic, but this was a really small story arc imo that didnt push the seasons story arc along at all.
[quote name='ryanbph']disappointed, yes..but i am fairly sure I read/heard this somewhere
so it will be awhile.
The show,imo, really seemed to be a fluffer...it showed what happened to the former #2 (he was #2 at the start of the season)on the ship in helo and how far he had fallen from adama's grace. That being due to several incidences where helio did what he felt was right regardless to orders. It was good to see that he might be brought back into the cic, but this was a really small story arc imo that didnt push the seasons story arc along at all.[/QUOTE]
That makes even more sense with the "deleted scene" they had at the end.
the season finale is the begining or the end of the actual trial..
The show,imo, really seemed to be a fluffer...it showed what happened to the former #2 (he was #2 at the start of the season)on the ship in helo and how far he had fallen from adama's grace. That being due to several incidences where helio did what he felt was right regardless to orders. It was good to see that he might be brought back into the cic, but this was a really small story arc imo that didnt push the seasons story arc along at all.[/QUOTE]
That makes even more sense with the "deleted scene" they had at the end.
[quote name='evanft']That episode kinda sucked.
Why can't they just keep the Baltar trial/search for earth story going and not get bogged down in random bullshit? I mean, seriously, WTF?[/quote]
on the producer/writters podcast he talks a lot about character developement...he seemed to like it a lot as he feels it move the larger storyline forward as he gives upclose shows on certain characters...he is hoping to draw people in to have feelings for the characters...kajun said he feels sorry for helo...i guess it is working :lol:
Why can't they just keep the Baltar trial/search for earth story going and not get bogged down in random bullshit? I mean, seriously, WTF?[/quote]
on the producer/writters podcast he talks a lot about character developement...he seemed to like it a lot as he feels it move the larger storyline forward as he gives upclose shows on certain characters...he is hoping to draw people in to have feelings for the characters...kajun said he feels sorry for helo...i guess it is working :lol:
Battlestar Galactica may be back for a 4th season next January. According to the article it will be announced tomorrow and it will be picked up for at least 13 episodes, I would guess that they will decide to pick up the back 7 based on the ratings.
January is a very long time.
January is a very long time.
[quote name='Kaijufan']Battlestar Galactica may be back for a 4th season next January. According to the article it will be announced tomorrow and it will be picked up for at least 13 episodes, I would guess that they will decide to pick up the back 7 based on the ratings.
January is a very long time.[/quote]
i'd be all for a shorter season. it'd be a much tighter show, more than likely. the show doesn't really drag until they get into a glut of one-shot episodes. it happened last season, it's starting to happen this season, too.
January is a very long time.[/quote]
i'd be all for a shorter season. it'd be a much tighter show, more than likely. the show doesn't really drag until they get into a glut of one-shot episodes. it happened last season, it's starting to happen this season, too.
[quote name='evanft']That episode kinda sucked.
Why can't they just keep the Baltar trial/search for earth story going and not get bogged down in random bullshit? I mean, seriously, WTF?[/QUOTE]
character development and they are probably doing these eps because they don't have money for more special effects. imo, they did use up a decent amount of their budget
Why can't they just keep the Baltar trial/search for earth story going and not get bogged down in random bullshit? I mean, seriously, WTF?[/QUOTE]
character development and they are probably doing these eps because they don't have money for more special effects. imo, they did use up a decent amount of their budget
dropping galactica into new caprica
i listened to ron moores podcast for this last episode...according to his comments about the show the story line that was originally intended for the season finale got trimmed back, and due to the trimming in the finale they had to scrap stories in this one...he called it triage work. He said it wasn't going to happen but just in case
the sagitrians had a incident on new caprica, and during baltars trial that was going to come up....that is why serreck didn't want the trial as he had a hand in it as well and didn't want it to come back and bite him in the ass...this episode was going to lay the groundwork for the sagitarian plot, but that in the end was trimmed from the finale...also in this episode they had helio being the officer that was trying to look good...he was sending reports to adama daily about issues and what his proposal was...in ron moores words, helio wanted to be a hero again, and he was constantly trying to earn his position back...this is why they were so dismissive of him in regards to the doctor as he was the little boy that cried wolf on a daily basis.
major future episode spoiler/denial of something
per http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800008633
as for the 13 episode commitment...that is in flux on either 13 or 22, but in order to make the annoucement they went with a min of 13 episodes
Question: Granted, I'm happy that Battlestar Galactica is continuing for a fourth season, but why only 13 episodes?— Girard Ruddick
Ausiello: The exact number of episodes is apparently in flux. "It has not been decided whether it will be 13 episodes or 22," BSG producer David Weddle told SyFy Portal. "We should have a decision on that soon." That would explain why Sci Fi, in its official pickup announcement, said BSG had been renewed for a "minimum" of 13 episodes.
http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx
The Times also is confirming that a major character will be unmasked as a Cylon before the end of the season. And if my BSG mole is to be believed, it's not Starbuck.
So, who then? Place your bets here!
So, who then? Place your bets here!
per http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800008633
as for the 13 episode commitment...that is in flux on either 13 or 22, but in order to make the annoucement they went with a min of 13 episodes
Question: Granted, I'm happy that Battlestar Galactica is continuing for a fourth season, but why only 13 episodes?— Girard Ruddick
Ausiello: The exact number of episodes is apparently in flux. "It has not been decided whether it will be 13 episodes or 22," BSG producer David Weddle told SyFy Portal. "We should have a decision on that soon." That would explain why Sci Fi, in its official pickup announcement, said BSG had been renewed for a "minimum" of 13 episodes.
http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx
tricia helfer was on attack of the show last night either last night or thurs night...besides pimping her playboy issue, she was talking about battlestar...She said she knows 4 of the remaining 5 cyclons...she also brought up the straight for dvd movie, and said something along the lines of nothing is confirmed at this time and she would probably learn more about it in the next couple of days, but most likely an early fall release for the straight to dvd movie....in other tricia helfer news she will be a guest star in an upcoming supernatural episode (9pm wb thursday nights)....i am pretty sure it will be in one of the next couple of episodes.
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Anyone else enjoy learing more about Adama's ex tonight? I liked how they kind of made it like the Baltar/Six relationship without Adama going crazy and talking to her while walking alone.
The Tyrol and Cally story was pretty good, and it had some good SFX shots. It was also funny how Helo is now piloting a Raptor again instead of managing the city on the hanger deck. I guess the writers need to communicate better.
The Tyrol and Cally story was pretty good, and it had some good SFX shots. It was also funny how Helo is now piloting a Raptor again instead of managing the city on the hanger deck. I guess the writers need to communicate better.
very good episode this past week...they should have killed of cally (never really liked her whinning)
after adama and the crew try to figure out how to save them, it is weird that it appears next weeks episode the chief leads the strike based solely on the commercials
after adama and the crew try to figure out how to save them, it is weird that it appears next weeks episode the chief leads the strike based solely on the commercials
[quote name='ryanbph']very good episode this past week...they should have killed of cally (never really liked her whinning)
after adama and the crew try to figure out how to save them, it is weird that it appears next weeks episode the chief leads the strike based solely on the commercials[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing. As I was watching the preview all I could think was "you ungrateful bastard."
after adama and the crew try to figure out how to save them, it is weird that it appears next weeks episode the chief leads the strike based solely on the commercials[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing. As I was watching the preview all I could think was "you ungrateful bastard."
big news about bsg in an interview from tvguide and exe"cutive producter david eick...the movie has been greenlit, shootoff series "caprica" should have a decision in march..there really isn't any spoilers, he does make very broad statements about a few of the upcoming episodes
TV Guide Editors' Blog
« Ausiello Report It's a Battlestar Galactica Scoopapalooza!
By now, you've heard the fraktacular news that Sci Fi has ordered a fourth season of Battlestar Galactica. Well, what you may not have heard is that producers have already lined up a big-name guest star for said fourth season that's so freakin' fraktabulus that Toasters everywhere are already Strudeling on themselves in anticipation. The high-profile casting is one of several scoopy tidbits that executive producer David Eick spilled to me in this exclusive interview.
Ausiello: Clear something up for me: Will the fourth season consist of 13 or 22 episodes?
David Eick: At this point, I'm so confused about what I can say and what I can't say, I don't even know what to tell you. I would just ask [Sci Fi] that question, because it seems like there are so many moving parts to the answer to that question. [A Sci Fi rep says the exact number of episodes is still "under negotiation."]
Ausiello: Were you on pins and needles waiting for the pickup?
Eick: I was not on pins and needles. I don't know if I'd say it was a foregone conclusion, but I was not on pins and needles because the network has always used as much time as they had to weigh the decision very carefully, not just in terms of whether they wanted it, but in terms of how to make sure we maintain the quality both economically and from a marketing standpoint. And those are big questions. It's a basic cable show that costs a great deal of money to produce. So those aren't slam-dunk answers. I'm actually glad we took the time to figure it out, 'cause what you don't want is for someone to come tell you, "OK, you're renewed. But the bad news is, we don't have the money to make your show." Or, "We don't have the money to market your show." Or, "You have to make the show differently." And, fortunately, because they took that time, we're gonna continue making the show just as we have, and I believe the marketing support will also be as strong.
Ausiello: In light of the renewal, is it safe to assume that the BSG movie is a go?
Eick: Its green light was predicated on this fourth season order, so that means we're making it. They're calling it a "bonus episode." It'll come between the end of Season 3 and the beginning of Season 4.
Ausiello: Which is the bigger episode, the one airing Mar. 4 or the season finale on Mar. 25?
Eick: I would say it's two sides of the same coin. What happens in the Mar. 4 episode will greatly influence and inform what happens in the cliff-hanger. The last four episodes all kind of tie together as a piece. But I would say that Episode 16 and Episode 19 are the two tentpoles, and are really the most shocking and revelatory.
Ausiello: And what about 17 and 18?
Eick: That's where we continue the story line [surrounding] Baltar's trial — establishing who is going to defend him and who is going to prosecute him, what the nature of the case will involve, how the judging works. We're trying to piece together some judiciary system amidst what are basically 12 disparate colonial points of view with different sets of laws, and that in and of itself presents a lot of problems. I can tell you that Adama's gonna find himself in what he believes at first will be a greatly advantageous position when it comes to the prosecution of Baltar. And we'll later realize he may've wished he hadn't.
Ausiello: Can you confirm that a major character will be revealed as a Cylon before the end of the season
Eick: Yes. And I wouldn't limit it to just that revelation; there are other revelations as well. But that's certainly one of them.
Ausiello: What are the others?
Eick: Well, I can't tell you 'cause then they wouldn't be revelations.
Ausiello: And what about the other four Cylons?
Eick: [Answer appears in tomorrow's Ask Ausiello. Sorry, a guy's gotta cross-promote where he can.]
Ausiello: Will there be any movement in the Starbuck/Apollo romance in this last batch of episodes?
Eick: I would say the events of Episodes 16 and 19 will greatly impact the nature of their romance.
Ausiello: Sci Fi is teasing a major death on the show; rumor has it that it's Starbuck. I know you can't confirm that, but can you tell me that a series regular won't be returning for the fourth season?
Eick: It's fair to say that there will definitely be changes to the cast in Season 4.
Ausiello: Are you viewing the fourth season as a possible wrap-up to the series?
Eick: I'm not sure about that yet. That's always a possibility, but no more or less than it was a possibility at the end of Season 3.
Ausiello: What's the status of the BSG spin-off, Caprica?
Eick: We're due to hear back from the network in March about whether they plan to go forward with that as a filmed pilot. We're very hopeful that this pickup will give us some wind at Caprica's back.
Ausiello: What's your gut telling you?
Eick: I would say it's pretty positive, because of the support for Battlestar, but also because it represents a pretty strident departure from the kind of show Battlestar is. Not that Sci Fi doesn't like the kind of show that Battlestar is, but I think if you're going to do a spin-off, you can do Xena or Stargate Atlantis, which are sort of variations on the same theme as their predecessors', or you can say, "OK, you had M*A*S*H, and then you had Trapper John, MD. Or you had Mary Tyler Moore and then Lou Grant. So I think this is more in the spirit of taking a portion of the mythos, the backstory of Battlestar Galactica, and then advancing it in a completely new direction with a different style and tone and just an overall different kind of show than Battlestar Galactica.
Ausiello: OK, last question: As you know, the BSG movie wasn't the only thing that hinged on that fourth season order. I'm refering, of course, to my guest appearance.
Eick: Someone just reminded me of that.
Ausiello: It's probably a little premature, but have you and Ron Moore been batting around ideas for my character?
Eick: Yes. We definitely talked a great deal about how that character's untimely demise would be one of the more exciting aspects of your journey. TVGuide Links:
By now, you've heard the fraktacular news that Sci Fi has ordered a fourth season of Battlestar Galactica. Well, what you may not have heard is that producers have already lined up a big-name guest star for said fourth season that's so freakin' fraktabulus that Toasters everywhere are already Strudeling on themselves in anticipation. The high-profile casting is one of several scoopy tidbits that executive producer David Eick spilled to me in this exclusive interview.
Ausiello: Clear something up for me: Will the fourth season consist of 13 or 22 episodes?
David Eick: At this point, I'm so confused about what I can say and what I can't say, I don't even know what to tell you. I would just ask [Sci Fi] that question, because it seems like there are so many moving parts to the answer to that question. [A Sci Fi rep says the exact number of episodes is still "under negotiation."]
Ausiello: Were you on pins and needles waiting for the pickup?
Eick: I was not on pins and needles. I don't know if I'd say it was a foregone conclusion, but I was not on pins and needles because the network has always used as much time as they had to weigh the decision very carefully, not just in terms of whether they wanted it, but in terms of how to make sure we maintain the quality both economically and from a marketing standpoint. And those are big questions. It's a basic cable show that costs a great deal of money to produce. So those aren't slam-dunk answers. I'm actually glad we took the time to figure it out, 'cause what you don't want is for someone to come tell you, "OK, you're renewed. But the bad news is, we don't have the money to make your show." Or, "We don't have the money to market your show." Or, "You have to make the show differently." And, fortunately, because they took that time, we're gonna continue making the show just as we have, and I believe the marketing support will also be as strong.
Ausiello: In light of the renewal, is it safe to assume that the BSG movie is a go?
Eick: Its green light was predicated on this fourth season order, so that means we're making it. They're calling it a "bonus episode." It'll come between the end of Season 3 and the beginning of Season 4.
Ausiello: Which is the bigger episode, the one airing Mar. 4 or the season finale on Mar. 25?
Eick: I would say it's two sides of the same coin. What happens in the Mar. 4 episode will greatly influence and inform what happens in the cliff-hanger. The last four episodes all kind of tie together as a piece. But I would say that Episode 16 and Episode 19 are the two tentpoles, and are really the most shocking and revelatory.
Ausiello: And what about 17 and 18?
Eick: That's where we continue the story line [surrounding] Baltar's trial — establishing who is going to defend him and who is going to prosecute him, what the nature of the case will involve, how the judging works. We're trying to piece together some judiciary system amidst what are basically 12 disparate colonial points of view with different sets of laws, and that in and of itself presents a lot of problems. I can tell you that Adama's gonna find himself in what he believes at first will be a greatly advantageous position when it comes to the prosecution of Baltar. And we'll later realize he may've wished he hadn't.
Ausiello: Can you confirm that a major character will be revealed as a Cylon before the end of the season
Eick: Yes. And I wouldn't limit it to just that revelation; there are other revelations as well. But that's certainly one of them.
Ausiello: What are the others?
Eick: Well, I can't tell you 'cause then they wouldn't be revelations.
Ausiello: And what about the other four Cylons?
Eick: [Answer appears in tomorrow's Ask Ausiello. Sorry, a guy's gotta cross-promote where he can.]
Ausiello: Will there be any movement in the Starbuck/Apollo romance in this last batch of episodes?
Eick: I would say the events of Episodes 16 and 19 will greatly impact the nature of their romance.
Ausiello: Sci Fi is teasing a major death on the show; rumor has it that it's Starbuck. I know you can't confirm that, but can you tell me that a series regular won't be returning for the fourth season?
Eick: It's fair to say that there will definitely be changes to the cast in Season 4.
Ausiello: Are you viewing the fourth season as a possible wrap-up to the series?
Eick: I'm not sure about that yet. That's always a possibility, but no more or less than it was a possibility at the end of Season 3.
Ausiello: What's the status of the BSG spin-off, Caprica?
Eick: We're due to hear back from the network in March about whether they plan to go forward with that as a filmed pilot. We're very hopeful that this pickup will give us some wind at Caprica's back.
Ausiello: What's your gut telling you?
Eick: I would say it's pretty positive, because of the support for Battlestar, but also because it represents a pretty strident departure from the kind of show Battlestar is. Not that Sci Fi doesn't like the kind of show that Battlestar is, but I think if you're going to do a spin-off, you can do Xena or Stargate Atlantis, which are sort of variations on the same theme as their predecessors', or you can say, "OK, you had M*A*S*H, and then you had Trapper John, MD. Or you had Mary Tyler Moore and then Lou Grant. So I think this is more in the spirit of taking a portion of the mythos, the backstory of Battlestar Galactica, and then advancing it in a completely new direction with a different style and tone and just an overall different kind of show than Battlestar Galactica.
Ausiello: OK, last question: As you know, the BSG movie wasn't the only thing that hinged on that fourth season order. I'm refering, of course, to my guest appearance.
Eick: Someone just reminded me of that.
Ausiello: It's probably a little premature, but have you and Ron Moore been batting around ideas for my character?
Eick: Yes. We definitely talked a great deal about how that character's untimely demise would be one of the more exciting aspects of your journey. TVGuide Links:
Personally I really enjoyed this episode. I've been wanting to see an episode about the people on the fleet for some time now, and we got a pretty good one.
[quote name='evanft']Anyone else not like this "adventure of the week" episodes? They're really starting to piss me off.[/quote]
You can't have major event episodes every week.
[quote name='evanft']Anyone else not like this "adventure of the week" episodes? They're really starting to piss me off.[/quote]
You can't have major event episodes every week.
i was listening to the 2/11 episodes podcast with ron moore, and he was talking about the new (decision on going forward should be in march) spin off series of caprica...allegedly adama's father, the lawyer, will be in it heavily...and adama will be soon as being a rebel against his dad..much like adama and apollo in season 1
listened to ron moore talk about the strike episode today...allegedly, the original storyline had to do with the sagitarians...and rather then chief tyrol, it was going to be dewalla....allegedly the finale originally had a strong sagitarian plot line in it, that started in the helo episode where he was in charge of the refugee hangar...they ditched it and made a bunch of changes according to moore...it really cut a lot of dewalla's roles...there was another episode i remeber him talking about where he said that was supposed to be dewalla...he also said that originally baltar was going to be a sagatrian, rather then being from a dairy farm...
several bsg news tidbits on tvguide
first an interview with Mary McDonnell..not to much is spoiled in the interview
http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Interviews-Features/Article/default.aspx?posting={F6ED7676-38E7-46C7-8843-C397D52FF5AF}
And in bad news, according to ask ausiello, he comment on season 4
Question: Any scoop on Battlestar Galactica?— Ananya
Ausiello: All you guys praying to the Sci Fi gods to increase the show's fourth-season episode order from 13 to 22 should be careful what you wish for. My friends over at syfyportal.com are suggesting that those nine extra episodes — should they be commissioned — would actually be used to wrap up the series. As in permanently.
http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx
first an interview with Mary McDonnell..not to much is spoiled in the interview
http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Interviews-Features/Article/default.aspx?posting={F6ED7676-38E7-46C7-8843-C397D52FF5AF}
And in bad news, according to ask ausiello, he comment on season 4
Question: Any scoop on Battlestar Galactica?— Ananya
Ausiello: All you guys praying to the Sci Fi gods to increase the show's fourth-season episode order from 13 to 22 should be careful what you wish for. My friends over at syfyportal.com are suggesting that those nine extra episodes — should they be commissioned — would actually be used to wrap up the series. As in permanently.
http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/default.aspx
I'm actually fine with BSG only lasting 4 or 5 seasons, this isn't the type of show I want to run for 10 years like Stargate or 7 like most of Star Trek.
I do hope they end the show with a mini though, it would be the perfect way to end it since the show started with a mini.
I do hope they end the show with a mini though, it would be the perfect way to end it since the show started with a mini.
imo, they need at least 5..I think they need more conflicts with the cylons, and almost a race to earth. With the way this season is going, it appears we are mostliy going to be dealing with baltars trial, so they could have more cylons conflicts next season to put the humans back on there toes and fearing for the sudden appearance of cylons. I would also like to see them stop at planets and run into other humans of some sort...the original had that, I wouldn't mind that happening in this series. They could be decendants of the tribe that went to earth and give them stories...
I totally agree with the mini series conclusion.
I totally agree with the mini series conclusion.
I enjoyed the new episode. I didn't think they would kill off a main character this season (well at least until the season finale), but I guess that Cylon Heavy Raider could of rescued her if the actress wants to come back to the show. Learning more about Starbuck's back story was also pretty interesting.
I also loved the new SFX shots, it was really cool seeing Vipers flying in the clouds. It's also nice that they were addressing the fuel shortage from last week's episode.
Also, the scene at the end with Adama was easily one of the best in the series. It was very powerful.
I also loved the new SFX shots, it was really cool seeing Vipers flying in the clouds. It's also nice that they were addressing the fuel shortage from last week's episode.
Also, the scene at the end with Adama was easily one of the best in the series. It was very powerful.
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i'm going to see the new episode now. i recorded it on the DVR as I do with all things to avoid the commericals ;D. at least they stopped the love triangles in the previous episode and hopefully they will stop focusing on relationships... get back to finding earth and fighting. it is possible it wont last another season since ratings are down. i'd have to say the last 4 or 5 episodes havent been that great...
[quote name='Kaijufan']I enjoyed the new episode. I didn't think they would kill off a main character this season (well at least until the season finale), but I guess that Cylon Heavy Raider could of rescued her if the actress wants to come back to the show. Learning more about Starbuck's back story was also pretty interesting.
I also loved the new SFX shots, it was really cool seeing Vipers flying in the clouds. It's also nice that they were addressing the fuel shortage from last week's episode.
Also, the scene at the end with Adama was easily one of the best in the series. It was very powerful.[/QUOTE]
There was no Raider.
I also loved the new SFX shots, it was really cool seeing Vipers flying in the clouds. It's also nice that they were addressing the fuel shortage from last week's episode.
Also, the scene at the end with Adama was easily one of the best in the series. It was very powerful.[/QUOTE]
There was no Raider.
Wow, didn't see that coming...I had heard rumors, but definitly with the way the episode was going was I seeing that happen...
as for the raider, didn't we see starbucks and the raider ship from the point of view of lee when he made contact with her...I could have sworn I saw 2 ships on the screen from his point of view.
as for the raider, didn't we see starbucks and the raider ship from the point of view of lee when he made contact with her...I could have sworn I saw 2 ships on the screen from his point of view.
That was probably one of the best episodes so far. Good stuff. I really didn't think they would go through with it, but they pulled out their balls and BAM! there it goes.
MOST OBVIOUS THEORY EVAH!
MOST OBVIOUS THEORY EVAH!
Starbuck will wake up in a ressurection ship in one of the last episodes of the season.
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She has to come back in one way or another. Don't tell me her destiny was to die... It would make no sense.
news tidbits from the last show that I picked up while listening to ron moores podcast...the model ship that adama was working on and destroyed at the end of the show, was ad libbed by olmos to destroy it. The productions crews jaws hit the floor when he destroyed it, as it was a museum piece that cost a couple hundred thousand dollars. Ron Moore joked about it and was very thankful it was insured...
a tvguide writters thoughts on the last episode as well as some insight to the last 3 episodes...very little spoilers about them but I will tag them anyways
a tvguide writters thoughts on the last episode as well as some insight to the last 3 episodes...very little spoilers about them but I will tag them anyways
http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800010219
The episode that undoubtedly will cause the largest stir in TV fandom was Galactica’s riveting and ultimately devastating journey into the metaphysical, as Starbuck (a brooding, tormented Katee Sackhoff) finally faced and embraced her destiny. Which meant, in a series of visions and hallucinations guided by the specter of the not-quite-Leobon as if he were the Ghost of Psychodramas Past, that Kara had to confront the soul-crushing memories of her abusive mother, who instilled in the self-destructive Starbuck a belief that suffering was good for the soul. Nobody suffers on Galactica as memorably as Starbuck, and in this final act that took her from “emotional basket case” to a martyr for purposes yet to be determined, this frakked-up hero leaves nothing but suffering in her wake.
I’ve seen the remaining three episodes of this season, and without giving anything away, I can tell you the shocks just keep coming. Next week’s episode picks up two weeks after Starbuck’s death — the survivor head count has dropped, notably, from 41,400 to 41,399 — and it’s hardly a surprise to learn that no one (Adama, Lee, Sam, even her longtime nemesis Tigh) is taking the loss well. The “celebrity trial” of Baltar (“the most hated man alive”) looms and occupies much of the rest of the season, resulting in some of the most potent courtroom drama I’ve seen on TV in ages, pitting father against son (Adama vs. Lee, yet again) as more revelations in the testimony threaten to tear apart this beleaguered society of military and civilian survivors.
In the prosecutor’s opening statement, as the two-part finale begins on March 18, the haunting question “How do we measure loss?” is repeated. Loss, mortality, spirituality, justice and ethical behavior in an epic battle for survival: These themes resonate throughout Battlestar Galactica, transcending the categories of sci-fi and cult TV, which is why the explosive demise of Starbuck didn’t play out like just another calculated TV death. (See 24.) Anyone who thinks Starbuck’s ultimate destiny (a phrase repeated so often I sometimes felt I’d stumbled into an episode of Heroes) was to disintegrate into a million little pieces doesn’t know this show. Anyone who can figure out who and what was waiting for her on the other side, and why, is welcome to explain it to me. And I guarantee nobody will be able to predict the twists in the March 25 season finale, which will make you question everything you thought you knew about nearly everyone and everything. My jaw is still smarting from gaping in astonished disbelief.
The wait between seasons is going to be excruciating.
The episode that undoubtedly will cause the largest stir in TV fandom was Galactica’s riveting and ultimately devastating journey into the metaphysical, as Starbuck (a brooding, tormented Katee Sackhoff) finally faced and embraced her destiny. Which meant, in a series of visions and hallucinations guided by the specter of the not-quite-Leobon as if he were the Ghost of Psychodramas Past, that Kara had to confront the soul-crushing memories of her abusive mother, who instilled in the self-destructive Starbuck a belief that suffering was good for the soul. Nobody suffers on Galactica as memorably as Starbuck, and in this final act that took her from “emotional basket case” to a martyr for purposes yet to be determined, this frakked-up hero leaves nothing but suffering in her wake.
I’ve seen the remaining three episodes of this season, and without giving anything away, I can tell you the shocks just keep coming. Next week’s episode picks up two weeks after Starbuck’s death — the survivor head count has dropped, notably, from 41,400 to 41,399 — and it’s hardly a surprise to learn that no one (Adama, Lee, Sam, even her longtime nemesis Tigh) is taking the loss well. The “celebrity trial” of Baltar (“the most hated man alive”) looms and occupies much of the rest of the season, resulting in some of the most potent courtroom drama I’ve seen on TV in ages, pitting father against son (Adama vs. Lee, yet again) as more revelations in the testimony threaten to tear apart this beleaguered society of military and civilian survivors.
In the prosecutor’s opening statement, as the two-part finale begins on March 18, the haunting question “How do we measure loss?” is repeated. Loss, mortality, spirituality, justice and ethical behavior in an epic battle for survival: These themes resonate throughout Battlestar Galactica, transcending the categories of sci-fi and cult TV, which is why the explosive demise of Starbuck didn’t play out like just another calculated TV death. (See 24.) Anyone who thinks Starbuck’s ultimate destiny (a phrase repeated so often I sometimes felt I’d stumbled into an episode of Heroes) was to disintegrate into a million little pieces doesn’t know this show. Anyone who can figure out who and what was waiting for her on the other side, and why, is welcome to explain it to me. And I guarantee nobody will be able to predict the twists in the March 25 season finale, which will make you question everything you thought you knew about nearly everyone and everything. My jaw is still smarting from gaping in astonished disbelief.
The wait between seasons is going to be excruciating.
David85
Banned
Anyone who thinks Starbuck’s ultimate destiny (a phrase repeated so often I sometimes felt I’d stumbled into an episode of Heroes) was to disintegrate into a million little pieces doesn’t know this show.
I said the almost the exact same thing to numberous "fans" in other forums about that. It's obvious there is more to it then that episode showed.
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The season finale is not as shocking as the person you quoted is leading us to believe. I guessed that Starbuck would return in the last seconds of the show and would walk into the courtroom and go "I know where Earth is". And I was pretty close to right. There are massive spoilers at the Sci-fi Channel forums, they are listed as "rumours" but they aren't. They will show who are four of the Final Five Cylons are and all of them are people we know, some more shocking than others. And one is obviously the one Three said sorry too. I'm not impressed with who they desided to make Cylons through, it's kind of lame. If you want to know then just ask or search the Sci-fi forums.
Well, I think almost anyone could make educated guesses that would be mostly right. I mean, everyone here could get 2 out of the 4 easily.
Starbuck and Baltar, obviously.
The other 2, though, could be tricky. I could easily see it being Starbbbuck's husband, Helo (sp?), the chief, almost anybody, really.
The other 2, though, could be tricky. I could easily see it being Starbbbuck's husband, Helo (sp?), the chief, almost anybody, really.
David85
Banned
[quote name='evanft']Well, I think almost anyone could make educated guesses that would be mostly right. I mean, everyone here could get 2 out of the 4 easily.
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Really? Easily? EVERYONE? Because you got them wrong!!! :lol:
Of course you guested Helo which is frankly is not an educated guess.
Helo is the one person that can't be a Cylon because of his hybrid baby!
Starbuck and Baltar, obviously.
Really? Easily? EVERYONE? Because you got them wrong!!! :lol:
Of course you guested Helo which is frankly is not an educated guess.
Helo is the one person that can't be a Cylon because of his hybrid baby!
David85
Banned
I was thinking Anders for months with maybe Tigh or his wife, and of course Baltar, and also Cally because I hate her.
Four of the Final Five are....
Huge spoilers (If they are true, I think they are....)
Last chance.....
Four of the Final Five are....
Huge spoilers (If they are true, I think they are....)
Last chance.....
They are Tigh, Anders, Chief, and Tryol (The President's new Billy). Someone said music would play a huge part in the season finale and supposedly all of them start hearing the Cylon music or something and all meet in a room on BSG. Roslin or Adama I think are the final 1, but that's not in this season.
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