Call of Duty Black OPS

[quote name='$hady']Crate kills are awesome, but a game winning INDOOR crate kill is epic. Loved his camera angle. :applause:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm probably going to film more angles of this one. Dude was probably WTF'ing the rest of the night. :lol:
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']A long-distance tomahawk ricochet and a game-winning crate drop kill I got last night.[/QUOTE]

Being there to witness the final crate kill was awesome. First to see that box icon at the bottom of the screen and then to see it in action and through the roof was just hilarious. :applause:
Also, very nice tomahawk kill, I remember you got a few last night.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rtsMpRy4s[/QUOTE]


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[quote name='integralsmatic']I was in teh same boat as you. the more you play the more you learn on what not to do.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the response and encouragement. I'm getting more self aware. I'm generally more offensive minded, throwing caution to the wind when trying to get a kill/objective. I've been trying to slow myself down and limit my own exposure.

I've lucked into some fun groups too which makes a world a difference.
 
[quote name='ArmyOfFun']Thanks for the response and encouragement. I'm getting more self aware. I'm generally more offensive minded, throwing caution to the wind when trying to get a kill/objective. I've been trying to slow myself down and limit my own exposure.

I've lucked into some fun groups too which makes a world a difference.[/QUOTE]

Try playing an entire game crouching. That'll keep you from doing a lot of stupid things.

And YES, a good team makes all the difference in the world.
 
[quote name='woodcan']Being there to witness the final crate kill was awesome. First to see that box icon at the bottom of the screen and then to see it in action and through the roof was just hilarious. :applause:
Also, very nice tomahawk kill, I remember you got a few last night.[/QUOTE]

Thanks man. Don't forget that hilarious kill you got where they guy did a slow-mo dramatic chipmunk before you got him with a headshot. That was awesome. :D
 
So I haven't seen much about the Dead Ops Arcade or zombie mode in this thread, what do other CAGs think about it?

I've only briefly played both but have been liking them both so far. Yeah the Dead Ops game is just a mini-game but surprisingly there is a good amount of depth to it and it's pretty addicting with the right crew.

The zombie mode is also good, not a big step up from the past yet but it's at least enjoyable for fans of WaW's mode. Hoping the new map revolutionizes the mode once again as those perk machines and dogs were a nice addition last time along with the weapon modding machine.
 
Dead Ops is fun, but i just get uninterested after i play it 2-3 times.

Zombie mode is fun, ive played it a few times co-op with people in the same room, and only once or twice online. The thing that kills it is lack of maps. Right now i still only have the 1 map to play on. So playing on the same map gets boring.
 
Getting internet on Friday. Hey, it only took me...a year and a half.

Lots more Black Ops in my future.

fuck you, cantenna. You're ingenious but I hate you.
 
Just went 58-14 on Havana with a Spas. Killstreaks were Spy Plane, Counter Spy Plane and Blackbird. Hardline, Steady Aim, Hacker.

Oooo the names I was called after that game.
 
Was in Gamestop today with my buddy Ricky while he got a game, and these 14 and 13 year olds were talking about who was better because some of em were 14, and "November 4th, 1996. That ring a bell? I was born before you so shut up."

One of the kids said "Well yeah but i, uh, i totally did your mom when, uh, when i was, uh, 1 so suck it." Word for word.

I'm sure they have Black Ops.
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']Was in Gamestop today with my buddy Ricky while he got a game, and these 14 and 13 year olds were talking about who was better because some of em were 14, and "November 4th, 1996. That ring a bell? I was born before you so shut up."

One of the kids said "Well yeah but i, uh, i totally did your mom when, uh, when i was, uh, 1 so suck it." Word for word.

I'm sure they have Black Ops.[/QUOTE]

pretty sure i played with the kids yesterday
 
Rolled up a 22 killstreak. Ended up going 31 and 2 on Cracked in Hardcore Team Deathmatch. I got the 2nd death because I got greedy and stepped out to shoot someone and got shot in the back.

That's easily my best game as far as ratio goes in Black Ops. It got to the point where I was killing people and taking their guns each time because I ran out of ammo.
 
[quote name='mike.m']I got the 2nd death because I got greedy and stepped out to shoot someone and got shot in the back.[/QUOTE]

So...does that mean you were camping the whole time?
 
Personally, once I hit that last killstreak that I have on I am going on a suicide mission to get myself killed so that I can get my killstreaks going again... That or I will kill myself if I still have a C4, Claymore, grenade or a red barrel nearby.

I really don't see any point in trying to get some 20+ kill streak when it really isn't going to do shit for you except make you look statistically better than you are. When I see someone with some high kill streak I either think camper or someone that goes into Objective base and only goes for kills.

I'll take a high win streak any day over a high kill streak.
 
[quote name='mvp828']Personally, once I hit that last killstreak that I have on I am going on a suicide mission to get myself killed so that I can get my killstreaks going again... That or I will kill myself if I still have a C4, Claymore, grenade or a red barrel nearby.

I really don't see any point in trying to get some 20+ kill streak when it really isn't going to do shit for you except make you look statistically better than you are. When I see someone with some high kill streak I either think camper or someone that goes into Objective base and only goes for kills.

I'll take a high win streak any day over a high kill streak.[/QUOTE]

Yeah in our LAN tournaments after I get my killstreaks it's pretty much balls out run and gun, which surprisingly works on alot of people here.

But then I get stuck in run and gun mode and I try to throw down 10-12 killstreaks in the last 30 seconds of the round. :bouncy:
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']So...does that mean you were camping the whole time?[/QUOTE]

The whole time, no. But I have no problems "camping" when I need to. That was at a point where I was I running out of ammo and was sitting in the burned out areas of the building in the middle of the map with enemies spawning on both sides.

So...are you one of the guys who bitches incessantly about camping over Live? :)
 
[quote name='mvp828']Personally, once I hit that last killstreak that I have on I am going on a suicide mission to get myself killed so that I can get my killstreaks going again... That or I will kill myself if I still have a C4, Claymore, grenade or a red barrel nearby.

I really don't see any point in trying to get some 20+ kill streak when it really isn't going to do shit for you except make you look statistically better than you are. When I see someone with some high kill streak I either think camper or someone that goes into Objective base and only goes for kills.

I'll take a high win streak any day over a high kill streak.[/QUOTE]

I play with a lot of good people in groups. We all have great games throughout the night whenever we play. So I'm not concerned with getting as many killstreaks as possible with choppers and what not because if people are smart, they shoot them down. I don't care about my killstreaks as long as we win and I maintain a positive kill/death ratio. Especially in hardcore TDM because you can get to 7500 really fast with a good team. If it were Domination or one of the capture type games, sure get as many killstreak rewards as you can and rack up the kills. Big deal. My son racked up 100+ kills on a Demolition game. That's cool, but take that into a hardcore TDM and see how you do. I just had a really great game and actually wanted to see how long I could keep it going since killstreak rewards don't count to your killstreak. I always like to see how high I can get a legit killstreak.
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']So...does that mean you were camping the whole time?[/QUOTE]

Not to single you out, but do people even know what camping is in comparison to map control?

Camping is if I lay prone in a stairway/doorway/corner with a motion sensor waiting for people to walk into my sights. If you're in say the broken building on Cracked, the B building on Hanoi, or one of the buildings on firing range, you're holding down positions and controlling the map. Especially in an objective based gametype like Domination or Demolition.
 
[quote name='mike.m']I play with a lot of good people in groups. We all have great games throughout the night whenever we play. So I'm not concerned with getting as many killstreaks as possible with choppers and what not because if people are smart, they shoot them down. I don't care about my killstreaks as long as we win and I maintain a positive kill/death ratio. Especially in hardcore TDM because you can get to 7500 really fast with a good team. If it were Domination or one of the capture type games, sure get as many killstreak rewards as you can and rack up the kills. Big deal. My son racked up 100+ kills on a Demolition game. That's cool, but take that into a hardcore TDM and see how you do. I just had a really great game and actually wanted to see how long I could keep it going since killstreak rewards don't count to your killstreak. I always like to see how high I can get a legit killstreak.[/QUOTE]

Who said anything about Choppers... I use UAV, Counter-UAV, and Blackbird. Granted a Counter isn't as helpful in Hardcore, but I stick to Domination and TDM. I stick to those killstreaks because they help out the team more than just my stats. I have gotten to the point where K/D isn't really all that important... Mine continues to go up if I just play cautious or use the bigger killstreaks, but once I get bored I just resort to running around like a madman. I'm fine with my K/D at 1.85+... I figure the 3 people I play with most have above 2.8 and I help contribute with always letting them know where the enemies are. I take a lot more pride in having a W/L over 7.

I understand the whole thing about a game when you are on fire though... I did that a couple weeks ago when I went back to back matches on Grid and Summit with scores of 28-0 and then 35-0.

[quote name='Trakan']Not to single you out, but do people even know what camping is in comparison to map control?

Camping is if I lay prone in a stairway/doorway/corner with a motion sensor waiting for people to walk into my sights. If you're in say the broken building on Cracked, the B building on Hanoi, or one of the buildings on firing range, you're holding down positions and controlling the map. Especially in an objective based gametype like Domination or Demolition.[/QUOTE]

It's one thing if you are playing Objective... When you start playing Hardcore TDM or TDM and you are doing what he said he was doing... Then I am pretty sure that qualifies as camping.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Not to single you out, but do people even know what camping is in comparison to map control?

Camping is if I lay prone in a stairway/doorway/corner with a motion sensor waiting for people to walk into my sights. If you're in say the broken building on Cracked, the B building on Hanoi, or one of the buildings on firing range, you're holding down positions and controlling the map. Especially in an objective based gametype like Domination or Demolition.[/QUOTE]

I've said the same thing in the past on numerous occasions. I consider it camping when you sit in a single place and as was said above you either lay prone watching a door-way, hall-way, or some single pathway or when you just sit in a corner waiting for people to walk by/enter a room. We played a "clan" the other night who all used ghost with silenced weapons and were all sitting or laying prone in corners and damn they were annoying but at least they left after we beat them.
 
People overrate campers too much. If you don't like campers, go around behind them and stab them or poke your head out and start throwing 'nades at them. Campers are not unbeatable, there are very few areas where there's only one way in and one way out. Find a way to get to the camper, they can't protect 3 areas at one time alone. Now I really hate guys who go into split-screen and travel as a team everywhere. Wicked hard to kill two guys at one time.
 
[quote name='mike.m']So...are you one of the guys who bitches incessantly about camping over Live? :)[/QUOTE]

I never bitch over Live whatsoever, games never frustrate me, honestly, it's just irritating when people camp. Not sure if I misread the situation because of the wording, but the "I got the 2nd death after getting greedy and stepping out" comment made it seem like you were just sitting in one spot the whole match, waiting for people to run past. If you're controlling a building, then hey, congrats on the awesome score. If you're just sitting there, waiting to get cheap kills, that's not really anything to brag about. I'll never understand how camping can be entertaining, but I guess it's just something to deal with, eh?

[quote name='Trakan']Not to single you out, but do people even know what camping is in comparison to map control?[/QUOTE]

I understand map control, Trakan, but he did say that he was playing Hardcore Team Deathmatch. If he was playing Objective modes, it'd make sense to do what he was doing, I suppose, for the sake of the points overall. I made the assumption he was just sitting there the whole time.
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']I never bitch over Live whatsoever, games never frustrate me, honestly, it's just irritating when people camp. Not sure if I misread the situation because of the wording, but the "I got the 2nd death after getting greedy and stepping out" comment made it seem like you were just sitting in one spot the whole match, waiting for people to run past. If you're controlling a building, then hey, congrats on the awesome score. If you're just sitting there, waiting to get cheap kills, that's not really anything to brag about. I'll never understand how camping can be entertaining, but I guess it's just something to deal with, eh?[/QUOTE]

The thing is, he got 38 kills... If he stayed in the same area for that long and got that many kills, he was in a pretty high traffic area and the people he killed just suck. Camping in a high traffic area whether it is TDM or an objective based game where you prevent a lot of people getting through is a good thing no matter what. While I dislike people camping in obscure places where it really is a cheap kill since not many people will go there, I also realize they aren't going to score high like this. Think about it like this, he got half of his teams kills (38+37=75) and only died twice... that is 3800 to 200, so what he did is fine in my book.
 
For the record, when I play with my buddies, we control one side of the map. I think Trakan said it best honestly.

If you're telling me you don't control a map on any game type, then more power to you, but I prefer to know where my enemies are going to come from while playing Hardcore rather than getting shot in the back because we keep switching spawns.

As to me stepping out because I got greedy. I was in the middle of the map in the burning building area in Cracked. I put myself right in the middle of the map on the hill and got shot in the back (because someone forced their spawn to the other side) as I was trying to shoot someone who got out of my range. If that's camping to you, so be it. If we all stood out in the open shooting at each other like the Revolutionary War, games wouldn't be very fun.
 
So I have come to the conclusion that the people playing TDM in Black Ops in between 8am and 9am eastern time do not know how to play the game very well. 3 games in a row with just 1 friend playing with me I went 19-1 (and my 1 death shouldn't have happened, got 5 hit markers before getting shot twice), 16-0, and then 18-0. Killstreaks were UAV, Attack Helicopter, and Blackbird which the Attack Helicopters I earned only got me like 2 kills combined if that in all 3 games.

There was also the match that I went like 24-7 and lost because I had 2 teammates break even at 14-14 and 11-11 and the other 3 go negative. The entire other team was pretty bad too, the best k/d for that match on their team was like a 1.6 or something like that, but they had either 4 or 5 guys break 10 kills each.
 
The only form of camping that ever bothers me is spawn camping, which given how crazy spawning is in BO right now, isn't much of an issue. Getting killed by a killstreak as soon as you spawn is infuriating though.
 
Last night, I was playing on Nuketown and got a Napalm Strike. I was behind one of the houses, and directed the Napalm Strike behind the opposite house where I figured the other team would be spawning. As soon as I send it, I get killed by someone and the game spawns me on the other side of the map, where my own Napalm Strike drops on my head and spawn kills me. :wall:
 
[quote name='ArmyOfFun']The only form of camping that ever bothers me is spawn camping, which given how crazy spawning is in BO right now, isn't much of an issue. Getting killed by a killstreak as soon as you spawn is infuriating though.[/QUOTE]

There are definitely spawn camping areas.
 
Sometimes I find it amusing to listen to people talk "strategy" and their different definitions for things. in a COD game.

COD at its very most has no structure. Its basically just recess, a bunch of people doing a bunch of random shit. Some of it is more intentional than others but due to the games design its all pretty random. There is no front line, no real objective, no real scrimmages. Its just a series of 1 on 1 battles with the only real difference is who ever is first to the trigger. Even the spawns are random with no real thought going into it.

Trak posted a video a while ago when he went 44-0 (roughly) and he did it by playing a objective match and spending the whole time going from the door, to the window, to the door, back to the window, to the door, then over to the window, then sprinting to the door. (Now this isnt a knock on Trak, I dont have a problem with it at all...just my opinion please dont bust a nut over it)

To me, thats the very definition of camping. Completely ignoring an objective to get kills, he didnt leave that area during the entire map even when the objective was clearly on the other side. (Note this is also a comment of how little I care about winning random COD games) You can call it map control but its still camping in my book and in another game it would bother me (but in a structured game there wouldnt be a reason too) but this is COD. There is no structure so there is nothing that is out of bounds.

If someone is camping one area, who cares, there is never a reason to actual be there in the first place just sprint to another random location and shot them in the back. The only thing in COD that matters is large K/D which is the reason why I can arm and disarm 10 bombs in a game and come in like 3rd to last after the 34-7 camper. I clearly dont have the same mindset about COD that most of you do, to me its just a time waster. Now excuse while I go 40-5 with no kill streaks and a pump action shotgun then spend my virtually millions on emblems.
 
The difference in what Trakan did and camping is is that he did it to control the area where the objectives are. While he may not be the one capturing it, he is clearly defending those areas so either his team can capture it or the enemies can't capture/re-capture it. It is a great idea whether you want to admit it or not. If you don't have gunners posting up defending areas, all people are really going to do the entire match is waste time running back and forth trying to capture. He puts them in the position of basically having to constantly die and his team doesn't have to run around like spas' trying to capture and die themselves. Even a really good player will eventually just stop trying to win and just go for kills once they realize they have no chance, but by then it is usually too late.

As for the person that disliked getting spawn killed, I will say this. If you managed to get pinned in your spawn to begin with, you deserve to be spawn killed over and over. It is all about map control and you would have the same opportunity to do it to the opposing team. The random spawns in this game are complete bs and nobody should be rewarded by spawning behind an enemy because they died.
 
Whatever you have to tell yourself man, I understand why he is doing it, the same way I understand why some poor people steal things, doesnt mean I agree. Spawning trapping people isnt as cool to me as it is to most people I guess(probably because I dont care about K/D) . Neither is standing in a window an entire match.

Also, the very reason why I dont take COD serious (and laugh at people who do) is the fact that K/D wins over all. No justification to camp a area (my definition of camping) in a objective match. Its a game, you can do what you want but I dont see why you would play a objective match and not go after objective, and please dont hit me with that, "But killing people helps my team." That is a direct remark on the lack of structure the game has. You know what would help your team in a objective match? Taking objectives. Try it sometime, its fun but your going to have let go of your K/D.

But again, it doesnt matter because the game is structured for a person to stand in a window and shoot things rather than do objective based things. Doing objectives doesnt net you anything so there is no real reason to do it. (in fact you are rewarded so much more for kills that its laughable to even call them objective games. Like I said before they are just variants of TDM.)

Again, nothing wrong with it just my opinion because winning in COD is completely meaninglessness as the game isnt structured to reward winning in a way that is enjoyable to me.

TL;DR
You enjoy the act of killing and not dying where as I enjoy the act of completing objectives assigned to me (why I dont play TDM). I simply think your way of playing is boring. I would rather run around and do things than "map control" a window. Also why I rarely ever play with killstreaks that net more kills. Counter Spy Plane, Spy Plane and Blackbird are about it for me.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Sometimes I find it amusing to listen to people talk "strategy" and their different definitions for things. in a COD game.

COD at its very most has no structure. Its basically just recess, a bunch of people doing a bunch of random shit. Some of it is more intentional than others but due to the games design its all pretty random. There is no front line, no real objective, no real scrimmages. Its just a series of 1 on 1 battles with the only real difference is who ever is first to the trigger. Even the spawns are random with no real thought going into it.

Trak posted a video a while ago when he went 44-0 (roughly) and he did it by playing a objective match and spending the whole time going from the door, to the window, to the door, back to the window, to the door, then over to the window, then sprinting to the door. (Now this isnt a knock on Trak, I dont have a problem with it at all...just my opinion please dont bust a nut over it)

To me, thats the very definition of camping. Completely ignoring an objective to get kills, he didnt leave that area during the entire map even when the objective was clearly on the other side. (Note this is also a comment of how little I care about winning random COD games) You can call it map control but its still camping in my book and in another game it would bother me (but in a structured game there wouldnt be a reason too) but this is COD. There is no structure so there is nothing that is out of bounds.

If someone is camping one area, who cares, there is never a reason to actual be there in the first place just sprint to another random location and shot them in the back. The only thing in COD that matters is large K/D which is the reason why I can arm and disarm 10 bombs in a game and come in like 3rd to last after the 34-7 camper. I clearly dont have the same mindset about COD that most of you do, to me its just a time waster. Now excuse while I go 40-5 with no kill streaks and a pump action shotgun then spend my virtually millions on emblems.[/QUOTE]

Except I wasn't ignoring the objective. I'm a points whore, so I like playing the objective. If I have to say "fuck the K/D" for a match to pull out the win, I will. I have a 2.98 K/D and a 10.3 win ratio. I know how to play the objective. I went back and looked and I had 1 capture and 3 defends. The next highest amount of captures on my team was 2 and the next highest amount of defends was 1. The objective in Domination isn't just about capturing, it's also about defending. Also, if I'm killing them before they can even get to the flag, I'm defending. Watch the video again, very rarely are they able to get to our flags, and when they do, I go and stop them. I also use UAV, Counter UAV, and Care Package unless there's a contract I want to go for.

Also, you seem to care an awful lot for someone who said they "just can't get into the game that seriously like you guys."
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Whatever you have to tell yourself man, I understand why he is doing it, the same way I understand why some poor people steal things, doesnt mean I agree. Spawning trapping people isnt as cool to me as it is to most people I guess(probably because I dont care about K/D) . Neither is standing in a window an entire match.

Also, the very reason why I dont take COD serious (and laugh at people who do) is the fact that K/D wins over all. No justification to camp a area (my definition of camping) in a objective match. Its a game, you can do what you want but I dont see why you would play a objective match and not go after objective, and please dont hit me with that, "But killing people helps my team." That is a direct remark on the lack of structure the game has. You know what would help your team in a objective match? Taking objectives. Try it sometime, its fun but your going to have let go of your K/D.

But again, it doesnt matter because the game is structured for a person to stand in a window and shoot things rather than do objective based things. Doing objectives doesnt net you anything so there is no real reason to do it. (in fact you are rewarded so much more for kills that its laughable to even call them objective games. Like I said before they are just variants of TDM.)

Again, nothing wrong with it just my opinion because winning in COD is completely meaninglessness as the game isnt structured to reward winning in a way that is enjoyable to me.

TL;DR
You enjoy the act of killing and not dying where as I enjoy the act of completing objectives assigned to me (why I dont play TDM). I simply think your way of playing is boring. I would rather run around and do things than "map control" a window. Also why I rarely ever play with killstreaks that net more kills. Counter Spy Plane, Spy Plane and Blackbird are about it for me.[/QUOTE]

Apparently you do not understand logic whatsoever. I have no problems capturing/defending/whatever at all. The point of the game for me is to WIN, that is it. Pushing spawns around by capturing all the objectives ends up backfiring half of the time and you end up losing which is absolutely pointless and idiotic. If you don't understand the difference between defending objectives and camping than I have no idea how to explain something so simple to you. The point is, he played the game with what is called strategy. You however just run around and apparently like to die a lot because that is what makes the game fun to you, congrats man. Keep thinking you are something special, if you were to bring your little spas bs around a good team you would get dominated and I can promise you wouldn't stick with that class unless you wanted to just rack up deaths.

Edit: By the way, I run UAV, Attack Helicopter (helps slow people down on objectives by them either being forced to take it down or it kills them), and Blackbird. Even though my k/d is at like a 2.6 or something like that, I really don't care about it unless I am playing TDM (where a bad k/d hurts the team). When I play objectives I am either the one defending if others want capture points or I am the one capturing when people don't want to die. Regardless, all that matters to me is that I get the win by any means necessary,plain and simple.
 
Slim, calm your cool ass down man. Apparently you do not understand how a forum works, didnt I clearly state several times that I simply view your way of playing as boring? Did I say that it was a bad way to play? Wrong way to play? Did I say you were a douche for playing that way? Nope, all I said was that I understand what you are doing but find it boring as I dont bust nuts over K/D. So you can keep thinking that winning in a video game makes you something special and somehow turns your opinion into fact.

Your response only proves that you take the game far more serious than I ever could (although I think I stated this several times already) Also, I am capable of 50-5 matches (or whatever standard you go by) all time, I just dont care enough about the game to play in that way. (Opinions how the fuck do they work again?)


God damn why is it that people want to talk about games but will pitch a bitch if someone disagrees with them about anything. Call it what you want, play how you want but that doesnt mean I have to agree with everything you say.


Trak, you dont have to prove anything me man. Who cares what I say about your play style? Its just a commentary of my opinions based on your play. Again, did I say your play style was wrong? Nope, it fits my definition of camping but who gives a shit what my definition of my camping is?


Its mind boggling how bent out of shape you guys get if a random person things you are camping.
 
[quote name='Dr.Zoidberg']People do seem to take a lot of stuff so personal on these boards.[/QUOTE]

Probably because its hard to read inflection, tone, emphasis. The odd thing about it is that if one can not pick up on those things many people will automatically assuming its being presented in the worst way possible.

A statement like, "I dont like your sweater," becomes " I fuckING HATE YOUR BITCH ASS SWEATER! NOW HERE IS A LIST OF WHY YOUR OPINION IS WRONG AND MINE IS RIGHT!" on the interwebs.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Slim, calm your cool ass down man. Apparently you do not understand how a forum works, didnt I clearly state several times that I simply view your way of playing as boring? Did I say that it was a bad way to play? Wrong way to play? Did I say you were a douche for playing that way? Nope, all I said was that I understand what you are doing but find it boring as I dont bust nuts over K/D. So you can keep thinking that winning in a video game makes you something special and somehow turns your opinion into fact.

Your response only proves that you take the game far more serious than I ever could (although I think I stated this several times already) Also, I am capable of 50-5 matches (or whatever standard you go by) all time, I just dont care enough about the game to play in that way. (Opinions how the fuck do they work again?)


God damn why is it that people want to talk about games but will pitch a bitch if someone disagrees with them about anything. Call it what you want, play how you want but that doesnt mean I have to agree with everything you say.


Trak, you dont have to prove anything me man. Who cares what I say about your play style? Its just a commentary of my opinions based on your play. Again, did I say your play style was wrong? Nope, it fits my definition of camping but who gives a shit what my definition of my camping is?


Its mind boggling how bent out of shape you guys get if a random person things you are camping.[/QUOTE]

My comments only came because you seemed like you were going at Trakan with your post. I like your little high and mighty "I know forums and you don't" attitude since it really doesn't matter to me. I really don't care about Black Ops whatsoever, but when I do play a game, why play if I am not trying to win? The game is repetitive and boring, so when I do play my only goal is to win. You obviously do think the way I (or Trakan apparently) play is wrong since you said what you did about his game. If you didn't care about that, you wouldn't have said a thing about it and you know it as well as I do. I really wouldn't care at all if all you did was say that play style is boring to you, but you came across completely different than that.

Either way, I am going to drop this mess completely and not respond to anything else. Some random person that comes across the way you do with almost every post isn't worth my time anymore/
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']My comments only came because you seemed like you were going at Trakan with your post. I like your little high and mighty "I know forums and you don't" attitude since it really doesn't matter to me. I really don't care about Black Ops whatsoever, but when I do play a game, why play if I am not trying to win? The game is repetitive and boring, so when I do play my only goal is to win. You obviously do think the way I (or Trakan apparently) play is wrong since you said what you did about his game. If you didn't care about that, you wouldn't have said a thing about it and you know it as well as I do. I really wouldn't care at all if all you did was say that play style is boring to you, but you came across completely different than that.

Either way, I am going to drop this mess completely and not respond to anything else. Some random person that comes across the way you do with almost every post isn't worth my time anymore/[/QUOTE]


This. Again. People have really have to stop thinking that everything said is written with the harshest possible intent. Even when I clearly stated numerous times that it was not a crack on Trak, that my opinion is just that. Opinion.

There are so many misunderstanding flame wars is crazy.

Then you go on to say that I obvious do think the way you play is wrong? The direct opposite of what I said. I even made it a point to overly mention how my post were pure opinion that didnt mean anything and yet we still wind up at the same result.

Let me clarify something when someone says, "I dont care" it means that they dont take it to heart. It doesnt mean that they have no opinions what so ever and will never utter a word about it. It simply means they dont have any strong opinions either way. You do this yourself in your post by stating that you yourself dont care about Black Ops (I said that too remember?) but then you clearly give opinions of it.

I dont get the interweb sometimes. I dont have any beef with you slim I barely even understand what we are arguing about.
 
It comes down to stating facts and not opinions. You said I was ignoring the objective while I clearly wasn't. You are hurting your team in Domination if you triple cap and make the enemy constantly flip spawns. There's a chance that they could end up capping two and spawn trapping you in the process.
 
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