CONFIRMED:HDMI-enabled black Xbox 360 out on April 29!

[quote name='gizmogc']I will get the new Black 360 if I can transfer everything (including my 30+ Arcade titles) over to my new Xbox. I should have no trouble selling my original, modded 360 with those 360 titles still on the HD and be able to purchase a new 360 for a bit more.[/QUOTE]
Yeah if I can transfer all my stuff over I might think about getting the Black version and selling mine.
 
[quote name='suko_32']Has this been posted yet?

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/more-xbox-360-elite-details-float-up-246901.php[/QUOTE]

NO! Thank you! The money quote:

Takahashi adds that the new 360 will habe IPTV capabilities, something I suggested would make sense, and that the new design will also implement the a chip redesign, shifting from 90 nanometer to 65 nanometer, resulting in a significant drop in cost to Microsoft.
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And, way to go out and make a BOLD prediction here, Kotaku :rofl::

I also wouldn't be surprised that if consumer interest shifted to the newer model, that Microsoft drops the price on their current models by this holiday season.
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I'm sure someone has asked this but...what will happen if you have a gamestop warranty? How would using that work in getting this new system?
 
Stupid Kotaku. I read the actual article they "quoted" and the guy says nothing about the 65nm chip being in this particular model. He says it is coming by Fall, which seems to indicate it ISN'T in the Elite, unless he just means for mainstream 360's. He does say the motherboard is redesigned, so that's a good sign. I still consider it possible, of course, but this was hardly confirmation of it.
 
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[quote name='RawisJericho']Has any sites confirmed that the 65nm chips will be in the Elite 360 besides kotaku.com?[/QUOTE]

I really doubt you are going to ever get any confirmation on this matter.

If Microsoft came out and said 'yeah we have the 65nm chips in the new model' then retailers would be very upset from all the people returning to cash in their warranty's en masse.

You likely will not know until someone buys one and rips it apart, trying to discern themselves.
 
Sweet, all but official now... MS might as well come out and announce it - though, probably, they will still wait as long as possible. If you read the Xbox forums there are still people insisting this is an April Fool's joke. And probably most regular people (ie, those that don't obsess over gaming sites ;)) won't know much about this and will continue to purchase the current model without a care in the world. MS wouldn't want to put a stop to that.

Now if *only* this has the 65nm chipset! I'm hopeful with the motherboard redesign and the "running cooler" comment that it does. Hopefully those tidbits aren't speculation and actually come from inside sources. I suppose I should prepare myself for the possibility that it doesn't have the new chip though. If the motherboard redesign and cooler running parts are true, however, this may be a quieter and more reliable system even without it, which is most of what I was hoping for out the 65nm chip anyway (the other big thing was less power consumption).
 
Damn I don't know what to do. I'm one of the few (or many?) who does not own an HDTV and has to play it on an LCD monitor with the VGA cable. So unlike those who sit on their couch 10 feet away from their 360, mine is literally right in front of me so it truly sounds like a jet engine getting ready for take off.

So I could either sell mine now for around $325 shipped on eBay but I'm wasting an assload of money if the new versions aren't quieter. And if I play it safe and wait, then prices will drop and I won't be able to get $325 shipped once the new models are in stores.
 
So anyone think that these will be as HOT as the XBOX Halo LE Systems?

I missed out last time but this time I'll be sure to get a black Elite.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']So anyone think that these will be as HOT as the XBOX Halo LE Systems?

I missed out last time but this time I'll be sure to get a black Elite.[/QUOTE]

Probably not, it costs $280 more than the HALO LE XBox did and has no bundled game. Also, it's already out that the same features will be prevelant in Premium systems later on, so the educated buyers know you're paying $80 more for the thing to be black. To be honest though, its "hotness" or rarity will all be determined by how limited MS makes them. The only thing that made the Halo LE system leaves stores so quickly is that it actually was limited, but as we all know from say the Platinum GCNs out there "limited" can have various meanings.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']So anyone think that these will be as HOT as the XBOX Halo LE Systems?

I missed out last time but this time I'll be sure to get a black Elite.[/QUOTE]

I think it will be like a console launch all over again, unfortunately. I'm going to try to get preorders in at 2 different stores (EB and GC, hopefully) to be sure I can get one.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']So anyone think that these will be as HOT as the XBOX Halo LE Systems?

I missed out last time but this time I'll be sure to get a black Elite.[/quote]

Maybe it was regional, but my in my experience, the Halo LE console wasn't that hot. I saw them in a few places and after thinking about it a while finally went and picked one up.
 
[quote name='io']I think it will be like a console launch all over again, unfortunately. I'm going to try to get preorders in at 2 different stores (EB and GC, hopefully) to be sure I can get one.[/QUOTE]

Give me 4 good reasons why it'll sell as much as a console launch, I mean you're talking 80-100k+ sales in a day or 2 to match a console launch. I think you're getting all the info from the net has skewed your view of the average video game shopper and what they'll buy. Nah, I think people will seek it out and it'll be tough to find if they truely do limit the number they make and don't ship out massive amounts, but the price tag is too high for most to buy as a second system or even purchase/replace it on a whim.
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']Give me 4 good reasons why it'll sell as much as a console launch, I mean you're talking 80-100k+ sales in a day or 2 to match a console launch. I think you're getting all the info from the net has skewed your view of the average video game shopper and what they'll buy. Nah, I think people will seek it out and it'll be tough to find if they truely do limit the number they make and don't ship out massive amounts, but the price tag is too high for most to buy as a second system or even purchase/replace it on a whim.[/QUOTE]

No, YOU give ME 8 good reasons why it won't be! :rofl:.

Look, it is just a hunch, and I'm probably overreacting a bit, but I'd rather do that and make sure I preorder rather than miss out entirely and have to wait until Fall to get a (new model) 360. Anyone else here who is considering one I would suggest do the same - if you change your mind or find it somewhere more convenient then just get your deposit back. But remember many CAG's thought they would be able to walk in to any store to get a Wii a few weeks after it launched and look how that turned out ;).

It depends on a lot of factors, obviously. The first and most important is exactly how limited this will be. I'd say if they only make 100,000 or so, it will run out pretty quickly. Maybe not all in preorders, and maybe not even on the first day. But I'd say within a few days. So, sure, that doesn't make it like the PS3 or Wii launches, but I was only talking in general terms anyway. If they make 500,000 then it will stick around for a while.

I think a lot of hardcore 360 owners will want to upgrade, and then there's people like me who have been considering a 360 for a while and would use this as an excuse to jump in (even if they haven't been following it on the net and waiting for the rumors to pan out as I have).

While it certainly might end up a shelf-sitter, I wouldn't count on it.
 
Why would these Elite consoles be limited? Some people would like HDMI, others would love a bigger hard drive, some like a black console and others simply would like a quieter system. It doesn't make sense that they would only make a limited run.
 
[quote name='CAG 79']Why would these Elite consoles be limited? Some people would like HDMI, others would love a bigger hard drive, some like a black console and others simply would like a quieter system. It doesn't make sense that they would only make a limited run.[/QUOTE]

Only the black ones are limited. White ones will follow afterwards.
 
[quote name='CAG 79']Why would these Elite consoles be limited? Some people would like HDMI, others would love a bigger hard drive, some like a black console and others simply would like a quieter system. It doesn't make sense that they would only make a limited run.[/QUOTE]

People have the impression that the "premium" system and the "elite" will merge by this coming fall. So, if the rumors are true, you'll have two choices:

120GB HDD, HDMI-enabled Xbox 360 w/ 65nm processor in *black*, now: $479.
120GB HDD, HDMI-enabled Xbox 360 w/ 65nm processor in *white*, in fall: $399.

Personally, I don't believe they'll go that route at all (dropping the price to $400), at least not so soon - reminding consumers that the only thing $80 got them was a limited color and a few months' head start. IIRC, the Halo system is a poor comparison to this, as the only difference was the color of the console (even the pricepoint was the same as the 360 consoles, wasn't it?)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']People have the impression that the "premium" system and the "elite" will merge by this coming fall. So, if the rumors are true, you'll have two choices:

120GB HDD, HDMI-enabled Xbox 360 w/ 65nm processor in *black*, now: $479.
120GB HDD, HDMI-enabled Xbox 360 w/ 65nm processor in *white*, in fall: $399.

Personally, I don't believe they'll go that route at all (dropping the price to $400), at least not so soon - reminding consumers that the only thing $80 got them was a limited color and a few months' head start. IIRC, the Halo system is a poor comparison to this, as the only difference was the color of the console (even the pricepoint was the same as the 360 consoles, wasn't it?)[/quote]
Halo Edition console (with Halo) was $170.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Halo Edition console (with Halo) was $170.[/QUOTE]

But it DID come with Halo...which was normally $29.99 at the time IIRC.

So it was atleast a savings of $10 and getting a limited edition system.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']People have the impression that the "premium" system and the "elite" will merge by this coming fall. So, if the rumors are true, you'll have two choices:

120GB HDD, HDMI-enabled Xbox 360 w/ 65nm processor in *black*, now: $479.
120GB HDD, HDMI-enabled Xbox 360 w/ 65nm processor in *white*, in fall: $399.

Personally, I don't believe they'll go that route at all (dropping the price to $400), at least not so soon - reminding consumers that the only thing $80 got them was a limited color and a few months' head start. IIRC, the Halo system is a poor comparison to this, as the only difference was the color of the console (even the pricepoint was the same as the 360 consoles, wasn't it?)[/quote]
the halo edition also came out 3 or 4 years after the debut and was essentially the same hardware.
 
[quote name='Kendro']Damn I don't know what to do. I'm one of the few (or many?) who does not own an HDTV and has to play it on an LCD monitor with the VGA cable. So unlike those who sit on their couch 10 feet away from their 360, mine is literally right in front of me so it truly sounds like a jet engine getting ready for take off.

So I could either sell mine now for around $325 shipped on eBay but I'm wasting an assload of money if the new versions aren't quieter. And if I play it safe and wait, then prices will drop and I won't be able to get $325 shipped once the new models are in stores.[/quote] well the loudest part about the old models was the DVD drive, and its pretty much a sure thing the Elite model will have the new quiet drive. 65nm who knows, but it will for sure be much quieter than your old version either way. then again so will any premium w/ the new DVD drive. just no real way to tell when it was made w/o buying one and opening the box to see.
 
Good thing I never picked up a 20 gb HD. I will just wait now for the 120gb. Anyone know what the price may be and if they will be sold separately?
 
[quote name='kevzik']Good thing I never picked up a 20 gb HD. I will just wait now for the 120gb. Anyone know what the price may be and if they will be sold separately?[/quote]

I'd assume there would be. The original Game Informer article on Kotaku in the OP mentions that it will be sold separately at a price of $200.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I'd assume there would be. The original Game Informer article on Kotaku in the OP mentions that it will be sold separately at a price of $200.[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='anomynous']:wall: :wall: :wall:[/quote]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That makes absolutely no sense!

I might as well sell my core and by an elite with that $200!

Good thing I have a plan B...that is getting a 20gb for cheap (ebay probably) after the 120s hit the market along with the elite systems.
 
am i the only one who really doesn't care about this upgrade? the only reason i would need a larger HD would be for HDTV shows, which i don't download any ways.
 
[quote name='triforcer']am i the only one who really doesn't care about this upgrade? the only reason i would need a larger HD would be for HDTV shows, which i don't download any ways.[/QUOTE]

No, lots of people don't care about the upgrade.

This new system is really only for three groups of people:
1) Those that believe they absolutely must have an HDMI port for whatever reason.
2) People that will be buying new consoles for the IPTV initiative.
3) Metrosexual gamers that like to color coordinate and perfer black.

If you don't fall into one of the above categories, you likely don't care.
 
[quote name='propeller_head']the halo edition also came out 3 or 4 years after the debut and was essentially the same hardware.[/QUOTE]

The part where I said "the only difference was the color" points out the latter half of your sentence as being redundant.

I still think that Xbox: Halo Xbox is a poor basis of comparison to Xbox 360: 360 Elite.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The part where I said "the only difference was the color" points out the latter half of your sentence as being redundant.

I still think that Xbox: Halo Xbox is a poor basis of comparison to Xbox 360: 360 Elite.[/quote]
well no shit, i was agreeing w/ you that the halo edition wasnt a good comparison. i still disagree w/ you re: the no drop to at least $400 when it's recast as the Premium.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']No, lots of people don't care about the upgrade.

This new system is really only for three groups of people:
1) Those that believe they absolutely must have an HDMI port for whatever reason.
2) People that will be buying new consoles for the IPTV initiative.
3) Metrosexual gamers that like to color coordinate and perfer black.

If you don't fall into one of the above categories, you likely don't care.[/quote]
:lol: @ #3:rofl:
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']No, lots of people don't care about the upgrade.

This new system is really only for three groups of people:
1) Those that believe they absolutely must have an HDMI port for whatever reason.
2) People that will be buying new consoles for the IPTV initiative.
3) Metrosexual gamers that like to color coordinate and perfer black.

If you don't fall into one of the above categories, you likely don't care.[/QUOTE]

I'm all of the above. I should probably buy 2.

I could actually give a shit less about this 360.
 
[quote name='propeller_head']well no shit, i was agreeing w/ you that the halo edition wasnt a good comparison. i still disagree w/ you re: the no drop to at least $400 when it's recast as the Premium.[/QUOTE]

I don't disagree on cost grounds; the profitability of the 360 is well documented. It just seems absurd to bump up the price of a console for such a short period of time (4-5 months?). It strikes me as a surefire way to gain gamers' ire who did buy the Elite. Is bottom-line, in the short term, worth getting gamers bent out of shape?

Then again, pricing it high may be one way to continue to sell-through manufactured Xbox 360 Premiums until they convert all their plants to the newer console. Beats me.

Moreover, although it's only rumor at this point, the rumored MSRP of the 120GB HDD at $199 also strikes me as absurd if the console itself will be $400 at the same time (unless they anticipate dropping it to $100-$150 by the time the Elite becomes the standard premium package). A single accessory shouldn't be 50% of the cost of a system.
 
Ya upgrade is pretty useless for me after I looked more into it...color, I could care less..., HDMI, something with HDTV? Doesn't matter, I got an SDTV. Umm 120 GB drive or w/e, doesn't matter I just play a few of the games I really like and only download demos/arcade games. No movies or anything else. The only thing that DOES kind of affect me is the fact that it might be quieter, which would be nice...but definitely not worth the 200$+ I'd have to spend lol
 
Moreover, although it's only rumor at this point, the rumored MSRP of the 120GB HDD at $199 also strikes me as absurd if the console itself will be $400 at the same time (unless they anticipate dropping it to $100-$150 by the time the Elite becomes the standard premium package). A single accessory shouldn't be 50% of the cost of a system.
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Forget about the HD-DVD drive already? ;)

I actually agree, though, that $200 would be a bit too steep for the new HDD. Maybe MS could lessen the blow a bit by dropping the 20GB's price(maybe down to around $50) and offering some HDD sizes somewhere in between the two?
 
[quote name='Buster Rod G']I actually agree, though, that $200 would be a bit too steep for the new HDD. Maybe MS could lessen the blow a bit by dropping the 20GB's price(maybe down to around $50) and offering some HDD sizes somewhere in between the two?[/quote] They aren't going to drop the 20GB HDD to $50 when the new 512MB memory unit is $50.
 
[quote name='Buster Rod G']Forget about the HD-DVD drive already? ;)[/QUOTE]

Fair enough; to clarify, a single accessory included with the console shouldn't be 50% of the system.
 
Anyone else not like the black color? Reminds me of the nasty looking original xbox. Although I 'll probably be getting it, I'd rather have a white one.
 
[quote name='lanzarlaluna']They aren't going to drop the 20GB HDD to $50 when the new 512MB memory unit is $50.[/QUOTE]

Ah, I didn't know that. I've read about the 512MB memory unit but didn't really pay attention to the price. I just bought a 360 so I haven't really payed that close attention to it until now. I still say they should drop the 20 gig HDD down a little, at least in the $75-80 range and offer something in between 20 and 120 gigs.
 
[quote name='lanzarlaluna']They aren't going to drop the 20GB HDD to $50 when the new 512MB memory unit is $50.[/quote]
well the pricing is relative to the volume that they sell. if they dont sell a whole lot its going to be more expensive because it has to encorporate more of the R&D, packaging, & distribution per unit. memory cards arent really that popular for the 360 & memory in general costs more than HDDs. but $100 is just a crazy price for a 20GB drive. i suspect its that way because they dont sell many of them.

the 20GB drives will probably end up being clearanced and the 120GB drive come down to the normal price. it'll probably just be $199 (though im not sure where that came from, all i read was 'below $200') for the time that the new Premium is marketed as the black Limited.

[quote name='pinoy530']Anyone else not like the black color? Reminds me of the nasty looking original xbox. Although I 'll probably be getting it, I'd rather have a white one.[/quote]
same. i think im just going to hold onto my current 360 until i see rumors of the Limited becoming the premium and then sell it. i dont really care that much about HDMI, but it will make it easier to route through my amp than having a split cable. i'd like the guaranteed quieter DVD drive and the reliability of the 65nm chipset though.
 
Hmm... I guess I'll be taking advantage of my two-year PRP when this comes out. What's the easiest way to damage one of these... unplug it during a firmware update?
 
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