CONFIRMED:HDMI-enabled black Xbox 360 out on April 29!

[quote name='propeller_head']

(though im not sure where that came from, all i read was 'below $200')

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It's universal game company language.
Nintendo said the Wii would be "under $250"
I believe Microsoft said the HD DVD drive would be "Under $200"

It might as well be officially announced at $199.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']It's universal game company language.
Nintendo said the Wii would be "under $250"
I believe Microsoft said the HD DVD drive would be "Under $200"

It might as well be officially announced at $199.[/quote]

it could also mean 25 cents too. i predict it will be a quarter.
 
[quote name='jeffreyjrose']Worst kept secret ever. I'm surprised that M$'s PR department hasn't made an official announcement yet.[/QUOTE]

Supposedly tomorrow we'll here something.
 
Could this explain why my BB has only a few Premium systems now? They had a huge mountain of them after christmas but appear to be carrying only a few systems on the floor now.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I'd assume there would be. The original Game Informer article on Kotaku in the OP mentions that it will be sold separately at a price of $200.[/QUOTE]

If MS does that they are going to cause the IP TV to be a flop. I'm sorry but the drive is not worth more that $100.
 
I wonder if xbox.com being down all day has something to do with the Elite. Doesn't seem like they'd have to spend that much time revamping it (or even taking it down at all) but who knows. It seems wierd they have had it off so long. I was just trying to view the BC list and it's been off for a while.
 
[quote name='io']I wonder if xbox.com being down all day has something to do with the Elite. Doesn't seem like they'd have to spend that much time revamping it (or even taking it down at all) but who knows. It seems wierd they have had it off so long. I was just trying to view the BC list and it's been off for a while.[/quote]

Didn't you hear they've shut down live for a while today and tomorrow for maintence so I'm guessing xbox.com will be related. This is good news, I just want that bigger hard drive!
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Didn't you hear they've shut down live for a while today and tomorrow for maintence so I'm guessing xbox.com will be related. This is good news, I just want that bigger hard drive![/QUOTE]

Well, I don't deal with Live (yet) so I had no idea :lol:.
Kotaku claims there will be 2 big announcements from MS the next two nights at midnight Eastern. One is probably the Elite. The other, I dunno...
 
[quote name='io']Well, I don't deal with Live (yet) so I had no idea :lol:.
Kotaku claims there will be 2 big announcements from MS the next two nights at midnight Eastern. One is probably the Elite. The other, I dunno...[/quote]

Yea I had a message one day and I was like oh I've got mail lol and it was from live service itself so that's how I knew.
 
180$ for the HDD has to be of THE Biggest rip-off known to man...

Am I the only one who prefers the black 360 looks wise compared to the white one?
 
[quote name='jeffreyjrose']Worst kept secret ever. I'm surprised that M$'s PR department hasn't made an official announcement yet.[/quote]
yea, im pretty sure they wanted to leak the info. thats what starts the buzz.

good lord :roll:
 
[quote name='propeller_head']yea, im pretty sure they wanted to leak the info. thats what starts the buzz.

good lord :roll:[/quote]

i don't think they do it on purpose everytime. I don't think microsoft has announced anything that everyone didn't already know about a month before for anything game related.
 
The price of the Premium should have dropped to $350. The Core version should have been phased out. This incarnation of the Elite Edition should have been priced at around $420. Under the current circumstances, the 120 GB HDD should be no more than $99. That would entice people to still buy the Elite to save a few bucks + HDMI support, and the past Premium users wouldn't get such a big shaft.

If MS wanted to overcharge for a 120 GB drive and HDMI, then the Elite Edition should have WiFi support and a HD-DVD for $489. The HDD size should have been cut down to about 80 gigs or so to save costs. I think a $350 Premium and a $489 Elite with the items I listed would have been very consumer friendly.

I think MS F'ed this up, but I guess they were banking on the same response that most Nintendo products receive. Dance with the one that brought ya and add a few bells and whistles here and there to make things look "new" (i.e. DS Lite). I wouldn't be surprised to see a HD-DVD or Blu Ray version of the 360 same time next year or late 2008.
 
[quote name='lmz00']Blu-ray 360? Good one.[/QUOTE]

They've already said making a blu-ray add-on drive would be just as easy as the hd dvd add-on drive was.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']*cough*[/QUOTE]

I saw that thread and found it incredibly annoying because the title doesn't mention the Elite, the OP and first page doesn't, and the last page doesn't either (at the time that I looked - people were talking about Blu-Ray, WTF?).

In fact I clicked on that thread to see what the "big announcement" was since I knew it was coming tonight and couldn't find anything so rather than just dig through responses to other responses trying to figure out what the actual announcement was, I just went to xbox.com to find out :lol:.

I also looked at the main 360 forum and to my surprise saw no official "360 Elite officially announced by MS" thread. Hey, at least I posted in the appropriate thread and didn't make a new one ;).

THIS thread at least contains a title that leads one to believe it is Elite-related!
 
[quote name='io']I saw that thread and found it incredibly annoying because the title doesn't mention the Elite, the OP and first page doesn't, and the last page doesn't either (at the time that I looked - people were talking about Blu-Ray, WTF?).

In fact I clicked on that thread to see what the "big announcement" was since I knew it was coming tonight and couldn't find anything so rather than just dig through responses to other responses trying to figure out what the actual announcement was, I just went to xbox.com to find out :lol:.

THIS thread at least contains a title that leads one to believe it is Elite-related![/quote]
That's because it was created before anyone knew exactly what the surprise was. Now that it's the Elite 360, they're discussing it there and comparing it to the PS3 at the same time. :lol:

My post is about the Elite 360 in there, about 8 posts before the last post. :whistle2:( I'm just letting you know where everybody went to discuss it.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']That's because it was created before anyone knew exactly what the surprise was. Now that it's the Elite 360, they're discussing it there and comparing it to the PS3 at the same time. :lol:

My post is about the Elite 360 in there, about 8 posts before the last post. :whistle2:( I'm just letting you know where everybody went to discuss it.[/QUOTE]

Oh I know - that's why I went there first when I got home. But seeing no post that said "the announcement is ..." I moved on. I just figured discussion of the Elite could still be speculation about tomorrow's announcement or something. Seems like the discussion should continue here or the OP needs to change the title of the other thread ;).
 
[quote name='RawisJericho']This will be mine if it has the 65nm chipset.[/QUOTE]


info released this morning... It does not have the 65nm chipset.
 
[quote name='yukine']Yeah, you're just paying $79.00 more for a bigger HDD, HDMI... and the color black.[/QUOTE]

Shh! We can only have one overpriced console this generation. Duh.

;)
 
Sony's response:

"We think every PlayStation 3 owner should have an “elite” experience, which is why we include an internal hard drive and HDMI output in every PS3 we sell, along with the 50 GB of storage capacity on a high definition Blu-ray disc. Sony has been the strongest advocate of high definition as the future of next-generation gaming. This requires high-definition components, including HDMI output, and large storage devices to deliver and store all that rich and vivid HD content. Microsoft’s announcement today not only legitimizes Sony’s PS3 strategy, it moves us closer to adopting universal standards in the area of high definition gaming that will benefit game developers and ultimately the end user."
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http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13112/Sony-Responds-to-Xbox-360-Elite-Announcement/

Atleast were getting an HDMI cable included and it will be cheaper than the PS3
 
Argh, no 65nm chipset=No Sale here.

Hopefully the HDMI output also adds support for TrueHD and DD+ soundtracks for the HD-DVD drive. Wonder if they'll release that in black eventually to match...
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Atleast were getting an HDMI cable included and it will be cheaper than the PS3[/QUOTE]

On the flip side of that, for $20 more you can have a fully-equipped Blu-Ray player. Whether you like it or not, that's not an insignificant difference at all.

Now, back on topic, there appears to be one surprise about the Elite announcement: ever since it was made official last night, all the talk about the "limited" availability of the 360 Elite has disappeared, and not been confirmed by Microsoft. So, the question becomes: will MS really run with three consoles on the market? If so, that blows to hell all the plans of those who were willing to wait for a $400 360 with all the trimmings of an Elite. If not, what are their plans going forward (which console gets the ax)?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']On the flip side of that, for $20 more you can have a fully-equipped Blu-Ray player. Whether you like it or not, that's not an insignificant difference at all.

Now, back on topic, there appears to be one surprise about the Elite announcement: ever since it was made official last night, all the talk about the "limited" availability of the 360 Elite has disappeared, and not been confirmed by Microsoft. So, the question becomes: will MS really run with three consoles on the market? If so, that blows to hell all the plans of those who were willing to wait for a $400 360 with all the trimmings of an Elite. If not, what are their plans going forward (which console gets the ax)?[/quote]

From a retailer's perspective, I can't imagine that they enjoy Sony and Microsoft's multi-console strategy. The Wii only has one version, and the console packaging is small, meaning they can stock several on their shelf. With retailers that have showcases (Target, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Meijer, etc.), three versions of the 360 really put a limit to what they can have on stock... me thinks Microsoft may need to rethink some strategy here and cancel either the Core or the Premium.
 
[quote name='yukine']Yeah, you're just paying $79.00 more for a bigger HDD, HDMI... and the color black.[/QUOTE]

Oh my god the Xbox IS a Mac!
 
No cooler chipset or quieter fan means I don't even have to think about getting an Elite. MS should cancel the Core and price the Premium at $300 and the Elite at $400.
 
Surely this announcement signals the end of the Core bundle, I can't imagine people are using 360's on a regular basis, downloading off Live etc without a Hard Drive.
 
[quote name='jeffreyjrose']From a retailer's perspective, I can't imagine that they enjoy Sony and Microsoft's multi-console strategy. The Wii only has one version, and the console packaging is small, meaning they can stock several on their shelf. With retailers that have showcases (Target, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Meijer, etc.), three versions of the 360 really put a limit to what they can have on stock... me thinks Microsoft may need to rethink some strategy here and cancel either the Core or the Premium.[/QUOTE]

Moreover, you made a post in the other thread about recognizing that the average customer is far less informed than they think they are, so this could become an issue of people bringing back consoles because "we bought the wrong one - we wanted the black one."

If you think I'm exaggerating, you can simply scour the 360 threads here for ample evidence of foolios looking to either return their 360 (uh...it's broken, so I need a new one. Oh, you have the Elite? I didn't know that! Can I upgrade to that one? No? Oh, well, I guess my system isn't broken then.) or sell it for as much as they can get for it simply to have the Elite.

It's ironic, when you think about how much flak these same fuckers give Sony for their console strategy centering around a high-definition experience.

The Elite is (good god I hope) only appealing to people with HDTVs. Then, irony rears its head, as the same folks who deride the PS3 for having a BR drive (OMG they're so expensive to make and the storage isn't needed!) will find that they, too, can have a HD video experience when they buy the reasonably-price 360 add-on player.

So, for $679, you can have everything a PS3 offers, save for the ability to store games on a HD-format disc (which will be a significant difference in the coming years, I can assure you).

If Sony doesn't use their PR to come out of this looking like angels and geniuses, I'll be amazed. And that's with *knowing* the kinds of PR buffoons they have.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']On the flip side of that, for $20 more you can have a fully-equipped Blu-Ray player. Whether you like it or not, that's not an insignificant difference at all.

Now, back on topic, there appears to be one surprise about the Elite announcement: ever since it was made official last night, all the talk about the "limited" availability of the 360 Elite has disappeared, and not been confirmed by Microsoft. So, the question becomes: will MS really run with three consoles on the market? If so, that blows to hell all the plans of those who were willing to wait for a $400 360 with all the trimmings of an Elite. If not, what are their plans going forward (which console gets the ax)?[/quote]
$20 more + $50+ for a Sony HDMI cable = $70+
Also, if im upgrading I'm going to be selling my orignal X360 so i'm not going to consider downgrading to a PS3.

Guess its not limited:

The Xbox 360 Elite is not a limited edition package and will not replace the current offerings, but will be treated as another SKU.
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According to: http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/03/28/its-official-xbox-360-elite-with-hdmi-and-120gb-hdd/
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
If Sony doesn't use their PR to come out of this looking like angels and geniuses, I'll be amazed. And that's with *knowing* the kinds of PR buffoons they have.[/quote]

Prepare to be amazed.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']$20 more + $50+ for a Sony HDMI cable = $70+
Also, if im upgrading I'm going to be selling my orignal X360 so i'm not going to consider downgrading to a PS3.[/quote]

That's absurd. HDMI cables can be found for $5-8 at monoprice. Moreover, is there any certainty that the Elite will come with an HDMI cable included? The Xbox site for it doesn't say.

What's more absurd is the "savings" you get by selling your 360. Well, I'm gonna sell my PS3 for $450, so the next time I buy a 60GB PS3, it'll only be $150! :roll:

So, it's confirmed to be a longstanding third SKU, and not limited? Well, shit. Any interest I had in it (and I am interested despite my skepticism) is gone. I won't be buying anything until that smaller processor is standard in all 360 units.

[quote name='benjamouth']Prepare to be amazed.[/QUOTE]

Hmm. Well, when you're right, you're right. :lol:
 
[quote name='mykevermin']That's absurd. HDMI cables can be found for $5-8 at monoprice. Moreover, is there any certainty that the Elite will come with an HDMI cable included? The Xbox site for it doesn't say.

What's more absurd is the "savings" you get by selling your 360. Well, I'm gonna sell my PS3 for $450, so the next time I buy a 60GB PS3, it'll only be $150! :roll:

So, it's confirmed to be a longstanding third SKU, and not limited? Well, shit. Any interest I had in it (and I am interested despite my skepticism) is gone. I won't be buying anything until that smaller processor is standard in all 360 units.



Hmm. Well, when you're right, you're right. :lol:[/quote]

No its not absurd to say $50+ for Sony brand. The Elite will come bundled with official MS HDMI not some cheap cable, so in comparison thats why I said $50+ for the Sony HDMI cable.

I don't know if its confirmed, MS hasn't really said anything about it. Thats just what joystiq.com has on their site.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']No its not absurd to say $50+ for Sony brand. The Elite will come bundled with official MS HDMI not some cheap cable, so in comparison thats why I said $50+ for the Sony HDMI cable.

I don't know if its confirmed, MS hasn't really said anything about it. Thats just what joystiq.com has on their site.[/quote]

If you must have brand name cables, then I guess I can understand this argument but last time I checked... digital is digital. Unless the cable is super cheap material, it shouldn't matter... on the flip side...
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']No its not absurd to say $50+ for Sony brand. The Elite will come bundled with official MS HDMI not some cheap cable, so in comparison thats why I said $50+ for the Sony HDMI cable.[/QUOTE]

Pfff. I didn't know that monoprice was offering "Big Lots" quality electronics. I guess that's why my PS3 only displays in black and white, and the screen rolls like my old VCR. :roll:

Don't forget your XBL subscription cost either. The services aren't comparable (so I'm not making that argument), but at the very least, you do need "XBL Gold" to download files (demos, XBLA games, etc.), don't you?
 
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