Demon's Souls - Atlus & From Software's Action RPG - October 6

Finished my NG last night and started NG+. After killing Phalanx I went on to world 2 (Burrow King) and killed the Armored Spider. It's funny going back to having dreglings able to kill you in two hits like the good old days.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']I just beat
Phalanx
. I'm wondering which area I should go to next.[/QUOTE]

Most people do 1-2 (the next part of that same world) or 2-1 (Stonefang Tunnel) next. Some people like to go to the Shrine of Storms (4-1) to grind or pick up some advanced items next.

Personally, I did 1-1, then 1-2, then 2-1, then 3-1, then 3-2. Just go with whatever you feel like :)
 
[quote name='porieux']Finished my NG last night and started NG+. After killing Phalanx I went on to world 2 (Burrow King) and killed the Armored Spider. It's funny going back to having dreglings able to kill you in two hits like the good old days.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah. Your first NG+ is a bitch.

NG+ is your same character and stats and all... just going through the game again... and again. Enemies power up each time. Though NG to NG+ is the biggest leap.
 
[quote name='fldash']What is New Game+ vs New Game??[/QUOTE]

New Game = just started playing with a new character
New Game + = beat the game and it starts you over, but with all equipment, spells, miracles, stats, etc and the enemies are much harder. You have to play through a few times to learn all spells and get all weapons since some Demon Souls can be used for several things and you have to choose how you want to use it each play-through.

Edit: Doh, beat by Saint Noir. :)
 
After beating 1-1 I usually do 1-2 because it is very short and relatively easy once you know what your doing. Of course my first play through I died for like 7 hours figuring out what to do. Usually now I go to 3-1 or 4-1. because opening up the rest of world 4 leads to some great grinding spots.

Also I just started my first NG+ and I find it REALLY easy. Ive beaten 1-1 1-2 2-1 all of world 3 and 4 and have only died once to a BP. I was really dissapointed in how easy it is actually but its probably my build
 
[quote name='Backlash']Most people do 1-2 (the next part of that same world) or 2-1 (Stonefang Tunnel) next. Some people like to go to the Shrine of Storms (4-1) to grind or pick up some advanced items next.

Personally, I did 1-1, then 1-2, then 2-1, then 3-1, then 3-2. Just go with whatever you feel like :)[/QUOTE]

Where can I get a Weapon that works well on Skeletons?
 
Yeah I think there's a huge difficulty jump from NG to NG+, but then each subsequent one is not much harder at all (supposedly 8%). I only have a few more things to try before I finish my NG and attempt my first NG+. I'm trying to do a bunch of the pure black WT events in NG while it's still easier. :)
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Where can I get a Weapon that works well on Skeletons?[/QUOTE]

I used a club for a long time but I don't remember where I found it :( There is a Blessed Mace in 5-1 pretty near the beginning that works well. And any Dragon Weapon (fire damage) works ok. A blunt Dragon weapon would be the best but you'd have to make it yourself.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Where can I get a Weapon that works well on Skeletons?[/QUOTE]
Skeletons are weak to fire, so any fire spell will make quick work of them.
 
When I had just started and was trying to score some souls on 4-1, I wore the Thief's Ring and would draw the skeletons out one at a time with a ranged attack, either magic or arrow, which of course also weakens them. Then block or dodge their attack as they run up and finish them off with a couple of slashes. Rinse and repeat. You have to get used to switching weapons really fast, of course.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Where can I get a Weapon that works well on Skeletons?[/QUOTE]

Just kill the first five or six rolly skeletons cautiously, then go left in the opening in the wall at the first fog, then left again after the trap to find the black dual-katana skeleton... toss some soul remains on the ground, run past him and grab the Crescent Falcion +1. It'll kill the rolly skeletons in 4 hits, which even a level 1 Royal has enough stamina for, before they ever get a chance to hit (they can't block and the hits from the sword stun them momentarily). Crescent Falcion is one of the best weapons in the game, IMO. Very low requirements, fast strikes, very high damage, + mana regen.

But don't bother farming those guys... instead go above the wall where the first fog was, walk all the way right, then roll off in the direction you came from (read: starting point), you can roll over the edge of the tower. You'll end up very near the boss, just one dual-katana skeleton to get past (use the same Soul Remains method). Roll right through the whole fight, and counter after he strikes, he shouldn't last too long. Then you'll be at 4-2 and able to farm the reaper, which should give >5,000 souls every ~50 seconds. Soon thereafter the game becomes a complete cake walk because you'll be able to easily upgrade your stats and equipment (and won't have to worry about losing souls in levels, because really, what you get from other enemies is chump change in comparison).
 
[quote name='Jam424']I'm soul level 72 ish and stuck on the bosses of the second playthrough! lol! This game doesn't get easier with time.[/QUOTE]

That is a tad low for a second playthrough (imo)... if you go for a third it will be a lot easier then! :)
 
Got up to 80 last night. Killed Flamelurker, but still haven't killed the Tower Knight and can't get past the Dragon God for some reason.
 
False King be whooping my ass, might have to look for help for this one for the first time.

Took 4 levels from me last night, and got killed on my way back
 
If you dual wield a big shield like the purple flame shield(whatever tis called) then you can break through the stones in 1 hit. Then it is just watching to see if he is looking and running like hell. Then once you get him pinned down, hit him with some ranged attacks.

The Tower knight is easy if you have arrows or strong spells, just run past him and up the stairs, kill all the archers and snipe him from above.

[quote name='Jam424']Got up to 80 last night. Killed Flamelurker, but still haven't killed the Tower Knight and can't get past the Dragon God for some reason.[/QUOTE]
 
Wow, this game is night and day different when you play as a Royal versus a Wanderer.

I didn't want to be a standard character so I started a Wanderer, I liked his sword if nothing else. Things were going okay but there were regularly situations where I'd goof up one thing near a group of enemies and get completely overwhelmed and beaten down. I eventually clawed my way to the Tower Knight who promptly destroyed me 4 or 5 times in a row without me taking off even 25% of his life. My fury was at an all time high. I considered selling the game, LE and all and just divorcing myself from the experience.

I took a break for a couple hours and fired it back up, going with the frequently cited noob class, the Royal. It took me less than two hours to achieve everything with the Royal that it took me seven hours to do with the Wanderer. Someday I'll have the balls to go with a melee class. That day is not today.
 
[quote name='Jam424']Got up to 80 last night. Killed Flamelurker, but still haven't killed the Tower Knight and can't get past the Dragon God for some reason.[/QUOTE]

If you get a few more levels I'd be happy to help you with some of the bosses. I think I'm at 100 right now.

I'm trying to get world 5 to PB to kill the NPC black phantom there (and primeval demon) before I finish the game and go to NG+. So all I did last night was help people kill bosses (mostly Flamelurker, but also Tower Knight once and Dirty Colossus once) and then suicide in world 5 once I revived.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']False King be whooping my ass, might have to look for help for this one for the first time.

Took 4 levels from me last night, and got killed on my way back[/QUOTE]

POISON
, or else be prepared to lose sweet, sweet levels.
 
[quote name='Saint Noir']
POISON
, or else be prepared to lose sweet, sweet levels.[/QUOTE]


If your going melee against Burger King, then I suggest attacking him twice only before backing off. Usually after two hits, he winds up soul-sucker or does his devastating 5-hit combo which will break your guard unless you have a Tower or Brushwood shield. Also, this gives you space to avoid his AoE attack. Using this method, I never lost a SL.
 
[quote name='Halo05']I took a break for a couple hours and fired it back up, going with the frequently cited noob class, the Royal. It took me less than two hours to achieve everything with the Royal that it took me seven hours to do with the Wanderer. Someday I'll have the balls to go with a melee class. That day is not today.[/QUOTE]

I think this is more about knowing what to do and where things are, though. My first class was a Royal, second char was Knight, and playing as Knight I accomplished things about 5 times faster than when I was a Royal
 
I'll probably start a new class soon, just for fun and to play with a coworker who just got the game. I was thinking Temple Knight. But even now that I'm a much better player I sometimes wonder how I'll get through some parts without magic (e.g. fighting the gargoyles in 3-2 or the mosquitoes in 5-2, or even the mind flayers in 3-1, shudder). Should be interesting...
 
IMO, any char that does only 1 of melee/bow/magic will have a hard time. the best PvM builds will utilize at least 2, all 3 seems ideal. my PvM build uses all 3 -- left hand is shield + bow, right hand is spear + talisman of beasts. I use bow for sniping long range, magic for buffs & where appropriate (firestorming bosses), spear+shield in tight areas and the game has been a breeze.

gargoyles, mosquitos and mind flayers all get raped by bows just as easily as magic. and actually i'd say the easiest way to take out mind flayers is melee, but it depends on the weapon... a weapon with high physical damage can one or two hit them, but if your weapon is magic based it'll be a bit harder (but still possible, I ran 3-1 using just a crescent falchion +1 at level 11 to get the black eyestone from the phantom at the end and the flayers never hit me). though temple knight can't do falchion well because TK is slow and falchion really requires rolling.
 
Yeah I agree. My magic-user definitely can do melee (though of course I can't use heavy shields or armor). I was just thinking that a character that starts melee-based won't really be able to use magic effectively. Can you lock on when using a bow? That would make it much easier. I generally only use my bow when I'm far away, out of lock-on range.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Can you lock on when using a bow? That would make it much easier. I generally only use my bow when I'm far away, out of lock-on range.[/QUOTE]

As long as the target is within range, yes.
 
My character started as a Soldier but is highest in Magic and I also do melee and bows. Right now in NG+ I'm regularly switching between Kris Knife+5, Adjudicator Shield+5, Purple Flame Shield+7, and Phosphorescent Pole in the left hand, and Demondbrandt, Talisman of Beasts, Crescent Kilij+4, and Moon Winged Spear+5 in the right, and of course the Lava Bow. Depending on the situation, I will switch them out on the fly. Working pretty well for me so far. Before I got Demonbrandt I was using the Meat Cleaver, first dual wield only but I upped my Strength enough to single hand it for times when I would forget to press the triangle button in the heat of melee battle ;)

Beat the Adjudicator and Old Hero last night. Only difference with Adjudicator from NG seemed to be his hits do more damage, pretty much a one hit kill so even more important not to get hit. Old Hero seemed to be the same; I never got hit by him in NG and didn't this time either.
 
I also use a Moon Winged Spear +5, ToB, and Crescent Weapon in my right hand. :) I'm using Crescent Falchion +5, though, just cause it gives it to you at +1 already. Now I kind of wish I'd held out for a Kilij or stronger base weapon since I eventually raised my strength and dexterity a bit to use the Lava Bow. Ah, well. Maybe in NG+.
 
I'm at 4-2 right now. I've farmed the reaper a couple of times so far, but nothing too major. I learned Evacuate and the Miracle guy disappeared. Where'd he go? Does he come back? I need to re-learn Heal, dangit!

Anyway, this is on a second game (I had to restart because the game really glitched me out the first time. It kept spawning me in the middle of a chasm where I just fell to my death over and over). There's this one item I can't seem to get in the reaper room, though. And that's on the level above the Reaper at the back left of the room. I don't see how I'd get over there.

Also, what do I do with the Demon's Souls exactly? And what do I do with the items named "_____ _____ Soul" I pickup from fallen peasants?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']I'm at 4-2 right now. I've farmed the reaper a couple of times so far, but nothing too major. I learned Evacuate and the Miracle guy disappeared. Where'd he go? Does he come back? I need to re-learn Heal, dangit!

Anyway, this is on a second game (I had to restart because the game really glitched me out the first time. It kept spawning me in the middle of a chasm where I just fell to my death over and over). There's this one item I can't seem to get in the reaper room, though. And that's on the level above the Reaper at the back left of the room. I don't see how I'd get over there.

Also, what do I do with the Demon's Souls exactly? And what do I do with the items named "_____ _____ Soul" I pickup from fallen peasants?[/QUOTE]

Miracle guy - He died or you killed him? He shouldn't disappear. Are you talking about the original guy or the guy that gives you the upgraded miracles. When you save the other guy, the original guy leaves.

Item in the reaper room - there is a doorway on the leftside of the room with stairs. Go up the stairs and you should find the item. Watch out, the top has an arrow trap.

Demon's souls - You trade them to get new spells/weapons

Treasure souls - use them (i.e. "storied soldier's soul")
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I didn't kill him. I don't know how he died if he did. I'm talking about the guy in the Nexus I buy Miracles from (who originally had 3) on the left side if you're facing the statue. He's not there anymore.

I bought Evacuate, and I did use it a couple of times on 4-2. I learned a second Miracle spot and when I went to re-learn Heal, he was gone.
 
Gotta let Patches kick you into the hole ;)

[quote name='Backlash']I also use a Moon Winged Spear +5, ToB, and Crescent Weapon in my right hand. :) I'm using Crescent Falchion +5, though, just cause it gives it to you at +1 already. Now I kind of wish I'd held out for a Kilij or stronger base weapon since I eventually raised my strength and dexterity a bit to use the Lava Bow. Ah, well. Maybe in NG+.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I also have the Crescent Falchion +4, it's a good weapon but the Kilij does more damage with my build. Unfortunately I have not been able to get any Pure Darkmoonstone yet to get one to +5.
 
Have you talked to Patches in the room behind the reaper room? Events that follow could affect who you see in the Nexus. (trying not to spoil too much here)

Did you free
Yurt
in 3-2? If so,
if you don't kill him he starts killing NPCs in the Nexus as you beat bosses.

Edit: Geez, 4 posts while I was typing this one. Letting my stupid job distract me from posting... ;)
 
So will I be able to get the miracles the other guy was selling as well as upgraded ones?

BTW, I have talked to Patches, but have not gone near the hole he suggests I look in. I have also not been to World 2, 3 or most of 5.
 
So for now I'm basically screwed when it comes to Miracles unless I can get to the bottom of this pit and save this guy?

Something tells me I'd die within 5 seconds of getting down there.
 


ChibiJosh said:
There's just 1 black phantom down there. It shouldn't be too bad.
Click to expand...
One that wields dual Uchis :lol:


Backlash said:
Equip Graverobber's ring before looking into the hole and then you can deal with the BP at your leisure.
Click to expand...
Actually even without the graverobber's ring or thiefs, it wouldn't attack after you fall. It doesn't initiate combat until you pass the center stone. So it just practically stays there.


porieux said:
Yeah I also have the Crescent Falchion +4, it's a good weapon but the Kilij does more damage with my build. Unfortunately I have not been able to get any Pure Darkmoonstone yet to get one to +5.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I remember my SL 15 dex build using Sharp +5 Kilij. Nice power and attack speed. :)
 
Last edited by a moderator:
[quote name='ChibiJosh']There's just 1 black phantom down there. It shouldn't be too bad.[/QUOTE]

How tough is a Black Phantom?
 
It really depends on which you encounter, but they're generally a bit tough, with quite a bit of HP. The one you're encountering dual wields katanas. I remember taking him down with a combination of bow shots (he won't advance if you shoot from far enough back) and Soul Arrow. After fighting pretty much every Black Phantom, I'd rank this guy pretty low on their food chain. Still, he can break your guard pretty easily if you're not careful.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
bread's done
Back
Top