Demon's Souls - Atlus & From Software's Action RPG - October 6
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I killed him at 11... doesnt he use Hiltless? I think it was that guy... just block everything and he'll kill himself. I might be thinking of the Makoto guy... if the guy in the pit doesn't have Hiltless (i.e., isn't hurting himself when he hits your shield) then just wait and counter after a block. Both of those guys are basically 100% physical, so blocking keeps you pretty safe even at a low level.
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[quote name='KingBroly']Maybe I should play it offline so I don't possible face another player down there.[/QUOTE]
I doubt any player would jump down there... but who knows. Haha.... just go in in soul form.
I doubt any player would jump down there... but who knows. Haha.... just go in in soul form.
offline is lame, it's basically like entering a cheat code that disables part of the game... all the online stuff was (masterfully) developed as part of the gameplay, it's part of the intended balance and adds a really innovative, fair, and fun aspect to the game.
really, i'm sick of people quitting out when i invade them. i really wish they'd just think of me as a computer-controlled phantom. when i'm invading, that's how i think of myself. it's sad, when i invade and the battle is very balanced and long, i usually think to myself how lucky the person i invaded is, to have this as part of his playthrough (i played the game 100% soul form and didn't even really know about invading/helping until recently, because I avoided online info about the game and didn't understand eyestones)... i view it as, for that person, there is an additional epic obstacle to this level. if he can overcome this equally-strong enemy with more erratic behavior than other enemies, then completing that level for him will be more epic than completing any level ever was for me.
anyway, my point being, invasion is part of the game for a reason and plays a crucial role. it's part of the experience. it's one of the things that makes demon's souls such a god damned great game. so please don't try to avoid it, and don't be upset when invaded.
really, i'm sick of people quitting out when i invade them. i really wish they'd just think of me as a computer-controlled phantom. when i'm invading, that's how i think of myself. it's sad, when i invade and the battle is very balanced and long, i usually think to myself how lucky the person i invaded is, to have this as part of his playthrough (i played the game 100% soul form and didn't even really know about invading/helping until recently, because I avoided online info about the game and didn't understand eyestones)... i view it as, for that person, there is an additional epic obstacle to this level. if he can overcome this equally-strong enemy with more erratic behavior than other enemies, then completing that level for him will be more epic than completing any level ever was for me.
anyway, my point being, invasion is part of the game for a reason and plays a crucial role. it's part of the experience. it's one of the things that makes demon's souls such a god damned great game. so please don't try to avoid it, and don't be upset when invaded.
People can play the game how they want to. If the devs wanted people to play online then From Software would have made online connectivity mandatory, but nope. Even when invading, it should be expected the host would likely quit or even the BP when host is farming them. You can't really stop them.Koggit said:
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I'm around Soul level 21 right now, so I don't feel that going around in Soul Form is a smart idea at this point.[/QUOTE]
I have played about 98% of my game in soul form. First because I died all the time, so when I got my body back from a boss it just didn't last long in the next world. And then later b/c I was trying to either get PWWT (so I suicided in the Nexus to make sure I didn't die in body form in my target world) or I was trying to get PBWT (so I suicided in my target world immediately to make it blacker). Nothing wrong with good old soul form.
I'm around Soul level 21 right now, so I don't feel that going around in Soul Form is a smart idea at this point.[/QUOTE]
I have played about 98% of my game in soul form. First because I died all the time, so when I got my body back from a boss it just didn't last long in the next world. And then later b/c I was trying to either get PWWT (so I suicided in the Nexus to make sure I didn't die in body form in my target world) or I was trying to get PBWT (so I suicided in my target world immediately to make it blacker). Nothing wrong with good old soul form.
I haven't played this in while due to backlogs, but I can't seem to beat 2-1. Last I played, I had just beat the tower knight boss and needed to go to defeat an 'arch demon' in another world. So I chose 2-1 (was there another choice?), but I find it so difficult, due to those weird zombie walking things doing a lot of damage to me. Also theres some guy who throws fire at me, who almost kills me in a hit or two! Am I doing something wrong, because this 2-1 world is super hard. Any tips would help!
edit: Also is there a trick to getting help in the game, cause I love when people put down blue stones to help me, but I rarely ever see them.
edit: Also is there a trick to getting help in the game, cause I love when people put down blue stones to help me, but I rarely ever see them.
[quote name='orbit18']I haven't played this in while due to backlogs, but I can't seem to beat 2-1. Last I played, I had just beat the tower knight boss and needed to go to defeat an 'arch demon' in another world. So I chose 2-1 (was there another choice?), but I find it so difficult, due to those weird zombie walking things doing a lot of damage to me. Also theres some guy who throws fire at me, who almost kills me in a hit or two! Am I doing something wrong, because this 2-1 world is super hard. Any tips would help!
edit: Also is there a trick to getting help in the game, cause I love when people put down blue stones to help me, but I rarely ever see them.[/QUOTE]
You are free to choose 3-1, 4-1, or 5-1. After beating 1-2, people commonly go to 2-1.
As for the diggers (zombies you refer to), you can stab them in the back if you want. They are relatively slow in attacking, even those with the pickaxe. Just have a shield up or hit them at range with arrows or magic (I don't know what class you have). As for the ones shooting fire (Ministers), its best to dodge to the left or right when they are about to release it. That attack is powerful, so just roll to evade those, while attacking every now and then.
Blue stone help, nothing you can do. Its up to other players to decide whether or not they are going to put their stones down in that area.
edit: Also is there a trick to getting help in the game, cause I love when people put down blue stones to help me, but I rarely ever see them.[/QUOTE]
You are free to choose 3-1, 4-1, or 5-1. After beating 1-2, people commonly go to 2-1.
As for the diggers (zombies you refer to), you can stab them in the back if you want. They are relatively slow in attacking, even those with the pickaxe. Just have a shield up or hit them at range with arrows or magic (I don't know what class you have). As for the ones shooting fire (Ministers), its best to dodge to the left or right when they are about to release it. That attack is powerful, so just roll to evade those, while attacking every now and then.
Blue stone help, nothing you can do. Its up to other players to decide whether or not they are going to put their stones down in that area.
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[quote name='orbit18']I haven't played this in while due to backlogs, but I can't seem to beat 2-1. Last I played, I had just beat the tower knight boss and needed to go to defeat an 'arch demon' in another world. So I chose 2-1 (was there another choice?), but I find it so difficult, due to those weird zombie walking things doing a lot of damage to me. Also theres some guy who throws fire at me, who almost kills me in a hit or two! Am I doing something wrong, because this 2-1 world is super hard. Any tips would help!
edit: Also is there a trick to getting help in the game, cause I love when people put down blue stones to help me, but I rarely ever see them.[/QUOTE]
To access 1-3, you need to beat an end of level boss if im not mistaken. Also, a spear works wonders for the miners in world 2 and range attacks and dodge are your best bets for the fat ministers or whatever they're called(fire throwers)
edit: Also is there a trick to getting help in the game, cause I love when people put down blue stones to help me, but I rarely ever see them.[/QUOTE]
To access 1-3, you need to beat an end of level boss if im not mistaken. Also, a spear works wonders for the miners in world 2 and range attacks and dodge are your best bets for the fat ministers or whatever they're called(fire throwers)
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Pure White World Tendancy, Pure Black World Tendancy. These affect how powerful or weak the enemies are and how strong you are against them. Pure White = easier, Pure Black = harder. PB gives better drops. Certain events/NPCs are triggered by the World Tendancy as well.
And Soul Form is fine. Makes it harder for enemies to detect, gives other bonuses as well.
And Soul Form is fine. Makes it harder for enemies to detect, gives other bonuses as well.
[quote name='orbit18']I'm a barbarian, and lately I've been going with a 2h sword. I like doing a lot of damage but I hate the slow attack. It causes me to get hit too often.[/QUOTE]
Barbarian is one of the harder classes to start with, but once you get good at melee you'll be fine (and ahead in the long term). 2-1 enemies are weak to piercing attacks, so you might want to try to get a one-handed piercing weapon like a spear.
Many enemies will kill you in one hit; the key is to not get hit by dodging, or blocking if you have to (dodging is generally preferable). Just take it slow and practice.
Remember, you can only summon blue phantoms to help you when in body form. Time of day matters; you'll see a lot more blue soul signs at night (in my experience).
Barbarian is one of the harder classes to start with, but once you get good at melee you'll be fine (and ahead in the long term). 2-1 enemies are weak to piercing attacks, so you might want to try to get a one-handed piercing weapon like a spear.
Many enemies will kill you in one hit; the key is to not get hit by dodging, or blocking if you have to (dodging is generally preferable). Just take it slow and practice.
Remember, you can only summon blue phantoms to help you when in body form. Time of day matters; you'll see a lot more blue soul signs at night (in my experience).
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/world-tendency (just see the What is Mine Right Now? and How Can I Change It? tabs to avoid spoilers).
If your world is pure white, you need to die 7 times, I think, to get to PB.
If your world is pure white, you need to die 7 times, I think, to get to PB.
[quote name='Backlash']I have played about 98% of my game in soul form. First because I died all the time, so when I got my body back from a boss it just didn't last long in the next world. And then later b/c I was trying to either get PWWT (so I suicided in the Nexus to make sure I didn't die in body form in my target world) or I was trying to get PBWT (so I suicided in my target world immediately to make it blacker). Nothing wrong with good old soul form.[/QUOTE]
same her e98% or so was soul form.
I was never invaded but i did help a few people out. I had a blast doing that.
This game is so epic and awesome. I have not played in some time, but may come back one day. I totally feel it was worth full entry price.
same her e98% or so was soul form.
I was never invaded but i did help a few people out. I had a blast doing that.
This game is so epic and awesome. I have not played in some time, but may come back one day. I totally feel it was worth full entry price.
[quote name='gunm']Pure White World Tendancy, Pure Black World Tendancy. These affect how powerful or weak the enemies are and how strong you are against them. Pure White = easier, Pure Black = harder. PB gives better drops. Certain events/NPCs are triggered by the World Tendancy as well.
And Soul Form is fine. Makes it harder for enemies to detect, gives other bonuses as well.[/QUOTE]
Depending how deep you want to get King there is alos NPC's that show only in one tendancy, among other things like items that only show up at certain tendancy's.
So it can be pretty overwhelming to try to figure it all out before you start to play it.
Also in regards to this, not anyone can help anyone. So if you are outside their soul range you may not see a blue eye stone down. I would typically set mine down right at the begining of a level or near a boss fight.
The few times I tried in the middle of a level, bascially had me waiting forever. I would get bored and pick it up and move on.
And Soul Form is fine. Makes it harder for enemies to detect, gives other bonuses as well.[/QUOTE]
Depending how deep you want to get King there is alos NPC's that show only in one tendancy, among other things like items that only show up at certain tendancy's.
So it can be pretty overwhelming to try to figure it all out before you start to play it.
Also in regards to this, not anyone can help anyone. So if you are outside their soul range you may not see a blue eye stone down. I would typically set mine down right at the begining of a level or near a boss fight.
The few times I tried in the middle of a level, bascially had me waiting forever. I would get bored and pick it up and move on.
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Now that you've beaten Storm King you can grind to whatever level you like.
[quote name='option.iv']Best place is actually probably 4-3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6akv-NiVH4[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6akv-NiVH4[/QUOTE]
[quote name='KingBroly']Okay, a couple of questions.
#1 - Where is the Avarice Ring?
#2 - Can I raise a World's Tendency once it gets darker?
By the way, I'm at Soul Level 43 right now.[/QUOTE]
#1 - Near the end of 3-2.
#2 - Yes
#1 - Where is the Avarice Ring?
#2 - Can I raise a World's Tendency once it gets darker?
By the way, I'm at Soul Level 43 right now.[/QUOTE]
#1 - Near the end of 3-2.
3-2 is a big circle. You have to go open two locks and then it loops around to the beginning. After you open these two locks, enter the big tower near the beginning and go down instead of up. I think it was down here. Pretty sure.
on your question #2, although you can, there -are- things you can do that would prevent you from being able to achieve pure white. you can always reach pure black pretty easily, but Pure White isn't always an option.
the best guideline for perfecting world tendency (that is, reaching PBWT and PWWT in all worlds) is, until you've completed the pure white events for a world, play only in soul form and don't kill NPCs. then, once you've beaten a boss or two (depends on server tendency) you'll have Pure White... complete the Pure White event(s), then you can do whatever you want in that world because Pure Black will remain an option at any time.
four-word version: stay in soul form
[quote name='orbit18']I'm a barbarian, and lately I've been going with a 2h sword. I like doing a lot of damage but I hate the slow attack. It causes me to get hit too often.[/QUOTE]
Barbarian is definitely one of (of not the) hardest starting classes, they're very fragile early game because of their crappy starting equipment. You should grind a bit. One good way to do so would be to enter Boletarian Palace at the third archstone, backtrack into 1-2 then lay down a blue soul sign (at the end of the level) -- you'll be summoned just for the boss, if you kill him and get an S rating you'll get around 4k souls. Once you get good at killing that boss (it's simple -- stay behind him, hit his feet, backstep when he slams the ground, he'll eventually fall then you can pound his face in) you'll be able to complete a run in one or two minutes.
In short time, you should be able to get enough souls for level ~30ish, at which point Stonefang Tunnel should be pretty easy. Alternatively, try Tower of Latria, which is a stage that involves less blocking (since you enjoy going 2-handed). Tower of Latria's first stage is all about "kill the enemies before they get a chance to hit you" because a hit means death. You may need to upgrade your weapon for that, though.
the best guideline for perfecting world tendency (that is, reaching PBWT and PWWT in all worlds) is, until you've completed the pure white events for a world, play only in soul form and don't kill NPCs. then, once you've beaten a boss or two (depends on server tendency) you'll have Pure White... complete the Pure White event(s), then you can do whatever you want in that world because Pure Black will remain an option at any time.
four-word version: stay in soul form
[quote name='orbit18']I'm a barbarian, and lately I've been going with a 2h sword. I like doing a lot of damage but I hate the slow attack. It causes me to get hit too often.[/QUOTE]
Barbarian is definitely one of (of not the) hardest starting classes, they're very fragile early game because of their crappy starting equipment. You should grind a bit. One good way to do so would be to enter Boletarian Palace at the third archstone, backtrack into 1-2 then lay down a blue soul sign (at the end of the level) -- you'll be summoned just for the boss, if you kill him and get an S rating you'll get around 4k souls. Once you get good at killing that boss (it's simple -- stay behind him, hit his feet, backstep when he slams the ground, he'll eventually fall then you can pound his face in) you'll be able to complete a run in one or two minutes.
In short time, you should be able to get enough souls for level ~30ish, at which point Stonefang Tunnel should be pretty easy. Alternatively, try Tower of Latria, which is a stage that involves less blocking (since you enjoy going 2-handed). Tower of Latria's first stage is all about "kill the enemies before they get a chance to hit you" because a hit means death. You may need to upgrade your weapon for that, though.
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oh, btw, i still need to test this, but I have a theory... I think you can always reach PW in Shrine of Storms, by invading and killing the demon in the middle of the level. I'm pretty sure this raises the tendency. All I know is, the other day, after a round of 4-1 invasions in which I killed that guy a few times, I had Pure White when I didn't before. I'm not 100% sure that was why, but I can't imagine why else.
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[quote name='KingBroly']Okay, a couple of questions.
#1 - Where is the Avarice Ring?
#2 - Can I raise a World's Tendency once it gets darker?
By the way, I'm at Soul Level 43 right now.[/QUOTE]
Im assuming you want these to grind but really you can do it at any tendency, you just get a bit more in black. Also once you get the spell soulthirst you can get plenty of spells.
#1 - Where is the Avarice Ring?
#2 - Can I raise a World's Tendency once it gets darker?
By the way, I'm at Soul Level 43 right now.[/QUOTE]
Im assuming you want these to grind but really you can do it at any tendency, you just get a bit more in black. Also once you get the spell soulthirst you can get plenty of spells.
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the only way to raise a world tendency is to kill either a boss in that world, or find the special demon's in each arch stone that can give you a colorless soul...
basically, if you want perfect white, you purposely stay in your spirit form so if you die, theres no penalty.
technically, if you kill enough black phantoms in the level, you do get +1 PWWT for this.
btw ring of avarice is in 3-2. Its at the bottom of the tower after you release the 2 chains and those weird crayfish face people pop out. Its where they pop out on that bottom level. Theres also Mephistopholes mask and rapier down there
basically, if you want perfect white, you purposely stay in your spirit form so if you die, theres no penalty.
technically, if you kill enough black phantoms in the level, you do get +1 PWWT for this.
btw ring of avarice is in 3-2. Its at the bottom of the tower after you release the 2 chains and those weird crayfish face people pop out. Its where they pop out on that bottom level. Theres also Mephistopholes mask and rapier down there
[quote name='kurrptsenate']the only way to raise a world tendency is to kill either a boss in that world, or find the special demon's in each arch stone that can give you a colorless soul...
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The "special" demons are the primeval demons, and those will raise WT by a lot. You can also raise WT the same large amount by killing the special NPC black phantom in each world, but those only appear in PB WT.
So as long as you have one boss remaining in a world, you can pretty easily go from pure black to pure white. Just make sure you kill the primeval demon and the NPC black phantom both before returning to the Nexus (since returning to the Nexus is when WT gets adjusted based on your actions in the world). Then once you kill the boss (play in soul form to make sure you don't die in body form and lower your WT again) you should have pure white.
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The "special" demons are the primeval demons, and those will raise WT by a lot. You can also raise WT the same large amount by killing the special NPC black phantom in each world, but those only appear in PB WT.
So as long as you have one boss remaining in a world, you can pretty easily go from pure black to pure white. Just make sure you kill the primeval demon and the NPC black phantom both before returning to the Nexus (since returning to the Nexus is when WT gets adjusted based on your actions in the world). Then once you kill the boss (play in soul form to make sure you don't die in body form and lower your WT again) you should have pure white.
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[quote name='porieux']I don't know why they don't just sell the guide to whoever wants one. Guess they don't want money.[/QUOTE]
Atlus treats their diehard fans VERY well. Most of their games come with swag that is only available in special editions. And the purchasers have no qualms purchasing them due to the fact Atlus holds good and makes sure they are actually collectible.... by not just offering them up after the fact and screwing the people who purchase the "limited" stuff.
Atlus treats their diehard fans VERY well. Most of their games come with swag that is only available in special editions. And the purchasers have no qualms purchasing them due to the fact Atlus holds good and makes sure they are actually collectible.... by not just offering them up after the fact and screwing the people who purchase the "limited" stuff.
I am trying to get all the trophies in this game. I would really appreciate a co-op person who could help me with these. I am currently SL 113 and I use magic and a bow and am in NG+. I would prefer someone with Skype or at least AIM or MSN so there can be some form of communication. Thanks for anyone who can help me with this.
Send my a PM or a PSN friend request if you can help.
I need the following trophies in the game:
These I can get by just picking up the weapon and dropping it back on the ground, I have no intention of keeping those items/weapons/armor:
-Moonlight's Trophy
-Life Master's Trophy
-Blood Master's Trophy
-Poison Master's Trophy
-Master Slasher's Trophy
-Master Basher's Trophy
I can get this one on my own once I get to him:
-Old King's Trophy
This one I am unsure on how to get easily in so any help would be appreciated:
-Soldier's Trophy
These two I can get on my own given the time and help in co-op:
-Saint's Trophy
-Sage's Trophy
Send my a PM or a PSN friend request if you can help.
I need the following trophies in the game:
These I can get by just picking up the weapon and dropping it back on the ground, I have no intention of keeping those items/weapons/armor:
-Moonlight's Trophy
-Life Master's Trophy
-Blood Master's Trophy
-Poison Master's Trophy
-Master Slasher's Trophy
-Master Basher's Trophy
I can get this one on my own once I get to him:
-Old King's Trophy
This one I am unsure on how to get easily in so any help would be appreciated:
-Soldier's Trophy
These two I can get on my own given the time and help in co-op:
-Saint's Trophy
-Sage's Trophy
I didn't know about Atlus making stuff really "collectible." Its just that the games I buy from them have LEs that are usually the same price as the regular game. Good to know my Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition will grow in value--although I'll never sell it.Saint Noir said:
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I've put around 50 hours into the game and I have no problems working for the trophies that don't require hours upon hours of killing the same enemy over and over again just in the hopes of getting a single item that I'll need 12 of to get a single one of those trophies.
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[quote name='Saix_XIII']I've put around 50 hours into the game and I have no problems working for the trophies that don't require hours upon hours of killing the same enemy over and over again just in the hopes of getting a single item that I'll need 12 of to get a single one of those trophies.[/QUOTE]
There is only a few that are really a concern... bladestone being pretty high on the list. The majority come pretty easily.
There is only a few that are really a concern... bladestone being pretty high on the list. The majority come pretty easily.
after ~500 multiplayer sessions, ppl whining about being invaded (sending PSN messages) is starting to bug me. they just don't understand this game... which i guess is okay, they can think whatever they want, but it ruins some of my fun because i don't want them to hate that i invaded. really, they should be happy they got an invader. they just don't understand...
in demon's souls 2, i hope they randomly send out computer-controlled invaders, with good AI, and don't differentiate between computer-controlled or player-controlled (kinda like Old Monk). this is already how I think invaders should be viewed, but most newbs seem to just see it as "oh, great, another dick here to kill me"...
it'd be awesome if in DS2 they took out SoEE, too... make body-form more rare... only get body form when you kill a boss or another player, that's it.
my dream list of changes to better integrate PvP into the game...
(a) Randomly send out computer-controlled invaders to those in body form
(b) Penalize disconnects/quitting (make it a one-way ticket to soul form)
(c) Show character levels of Black Phantoms
(d) Remove SoEE from the game
in demon's souls 2, i hope they randomly send out computer-controlled invaders, with good AI, and don't differentiate between computer-controlled or player-controlled (kinda like Old Monk). this is already how I think invaders should be viewed, but most newbs seem to just see it as "oh, great, another dick here to kill me"...
it'd be awesome if in DS2 they took out SoEE, too... make body-form more rare... only get body form when you kill a boss or another player, that's it.
my dream list of changes to better integrate PvP into the game...
(a) Randomly send out computer-controlled invaders to those in body form
(b) Penalize disconnects/quitting (make it a one-way ticket to soul form)
(c) Show character levels of Black Phantoms
(d) Remove SoEE from the game
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[quote name='Koggit']after ~500 multiplayer sessions, ppl whining about being invaded (sending PSN messages) is starting to bug me. they just don't understand this game... which i guess is okay, but really ruins my fun because i don't want them to hate that i invaded. really, they should be happy they got an invader. they just don't understand...[/QUOTE]
Oh yes... how oh so happy that someone comes in and kills them... someone comes in and resets their level that may have taken them forever to go through and now they get to start over. THE JOY!
I don't get mad at people invading, mainly because that is the way it is and it adds excitement. Also, I can mow through the regular enemies easily, so no death really sets me back. However... get off your horse about actually doing people a favor by going in and killing them. That is your joy, not theirs.
Though, them sending PSN messages is pretty lame. :lol:
Oh yes... how oh so happy that someone comes in and kills them... someone comes in and resets their level that may have taken them forever to go through and now they get to start over. THE JOY!
I don't get mad at people invading, mainly because that is the way it is and it adds excitement. Also, I can mow through the regular enemies easily, so no death really sets me back. However... get off your horse about actually doing people a favor by going in and killing them. That is your joy, not theirs.
Though, them sending PSN messages is pretty lame. :lol:
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[quote name='Saint Noir']There is only a few that are really a concern... bladestone being pretty high on the list. The majority come pretty easily.[/QUOTE]
At least you have the option to farm for Pure Bladestone. If the geckos don't give you Pure Darkmoonstone you are just screwed until the next playthrough.
At least you have the option to farm for Pure Bladestone. If the geckos don't give you Pure Darkmoonstone you are just screwed until the next playthrough.
[quote name='Saint Noir']There is only a few that are really a concern... bladestone being pretty high on the list. The majority come pretty easily.[/QUOTE]
I wish it was like that for my dex character regarding chunks of bladestone. I don't know, but it was odd when I farmed for 2 hours to get 7 pures, 36 shards, and 1 chunk.
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As for invading, the only thing I want improved is the Black Phantom spawn. I want it to be randomized in the level so that it adds more to the suspense. If people send me messages bitching about being invaded/killed, I'll be sure to invade that world again--and more likely than not I'll encounter the same person. I won't go for the host right away, but I'll go for the all the geckos in the area. Now the host will have something to bitch about. :lol:
I wish it was like that for my dex character regarding chunks of bladestone. I don't know, but it was odd when I farmed for 2 hours to get 7 pures, 36 shards, and 1 chunk.
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As for invading, the only thing I want improved is the Black Phantom spawn. I want it to be randomized in the level so that it adds more to the suspense. If people send me messages bitching about being invaded/killed, I'll be sure to invade that world again--and more likely than not I'll encounter the same person. I won't go for the host right away, but I'll go for the all the geckos in the area. Now the host will have something to bitch about. :lol:
[quote name='Saint Noir']Oh yes... how oh so happy that someone comes in and kills them... someone comes in and resets their level that may have taken them forever to go through and now they get to start over. THE JOY!
I don't get mad at people invading, mainly because that is the way it is and it adds excitement. Also, I can mow through the regular enemies easily, so no death really sets me back. However... get off your horse about actually doing people a favor by going in and killing them. That is your joy, not theirs.
Though, them sending PSN messages is pretty lame. :lol:[/QUOTE]
i don't think they should smile & laugh that they died or anything, they should be a little frustrated, but the frustration should be the same as when they're destroyed by a boss or anything else in the game. my point, really, is just that they should view invaders as a force of balance.
in body form, the game is really quite easy. especially if you summon help. if you've got 2 blue phantoms in a level, your only real threat is (a) falling to a death or (b) the boss. otherwise, 3 players can just doze through just about any level (valley of defilement arguable, since 3x the players doesn't help all that much when your enemy is the land itself)...
so, to compensate for the power a hero has in their body, they must also face black phantom invaders. that's a great way to balance it. the person being invaded still has an enormous advantage -- against a similarly-leveled opponent the body-form player has twice as much health and can summon help. even 1v1, it is ALWAYS possible to kill the invader. and even still, even if the invader is successful, all that happens is the user is kicked into soul form, where most players should be.
in an ideal world, i'd say about 15% of all users are body form, the remaining 85% in soul form would be split -- about half of them questing in their own world (similar to offline play, like all King's Field games were, but with hints and bloodstains) and the other half are using either blue or black eyestones to help/invade. yet it seems more than half of all users want to quest through the game in body form. which is understandable -- body form is like super power mode, why wouldn't they want it? -- that's why I think the best solution is to just make body form harder to attain.
I don't get mad at people invading, mainly because that is the way it is and it adds excitement. Also, I can mow through the regular enemies easily, so no death really sets me back. However... get off your horse about actually doing people a favor by going in and killing them. That is your joy, not theirs.
Though, them sending PSN messages is pretty lame. :lol:[/QUOTE]
i don't think they should smile & laugh that they died or anything, they should be a little frustrated, but the frustration should be the same as when they're destroyed by a boss or anything else in the game. my point, really, is just that they should view invaders as a force of balance.
in body form, the game is really quite easy. especially if you summon help. if you've got 2 blue phantoms in a level, your only real threat is (a) falling to a death or (b) the boss. otherwise, 3 players can just doze through just about any level (valley of defilement arguable, since 3x the players doesn't help all that much when your enemy is the land itself)...
so, to compensate for the power a hero has in their body, they must also face black phantom invaders. that's a great way to balance it. the person being invaded still has an enormous advantage -- against a similarly-leveled opponent the body-form player has twice as much health and can summon help. even 1v1, it is ALWAYS possible to kill the invader. and even still, even if the invader is successful, all that happens is the user is kicked into soul form, where most players should be.
in an ideal world, i'd say about 15% of all users are body form, the remaining 85% in soul form would be split -- about half of them questing in their own world (similar to offline play, like all King's Field games were, but with hints and bloodstains) and the other half are using either blue or black eyestones to help/invade. yet it seems more than half of all users want to quest through the game in body form. which is understandable -- body form is like super power mode, why wouldn't they want it? -- that's why I think the best solution is to just make body form harder to attain.
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