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Maybe they will change it if enough people bitch to Deej about it on twitter... :D/

Are the new Exotics going to be sold by Xur or only available as raid drops?

 
Are the new Exotics going to be sold by Xur or only available as raid drops?
I was wondering the same thing as they have not said anything as far as I have read/heard. I would hope they will be sold by Xur but I wouldn't be surprised if they were only available as rewards for now.

 
I was wondering the same thing as they have not said anything as far as I have read/heard. I would hope they will be sold by Xur but I wouldn't be surprised if they were only available as rewards for now.
I hope they don't. Per the conversation we had a while ago, the fact that they were sold by Xur made them feel less than exotic before the game was even a month old. If you take a look back, we have plenty of other opportunities to get exotics through raids/nightfalls/engrams. It would be nice for Xur to have a bigger pool of items, but this is also the right time to make a change like this.

The fact that people who don't buy the DLC wont have access to the exotics makes me doubt they will make it to something universal like Xur anyway.

The unfortunate other issue is whether or not the DLC strikes will ever be included as a Nightfall (also unlikely).

 
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I was wondering the same thing as they have not said anything as far as I have read/heard. I would hope they will be sold by Xur but I wouldn't be surprised if they were only available as rewards for now.
Posted this in the PS3 thread:

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Obviously pre-release, but you can see he's selling the Rocket Launcher exotic from the trailer

D'oh... meant to quote Glock

 
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Posted this in the PS3 thread:

xur_upgrades.jpg


Obviously pre-release, but you can see he's selling the Rocket Launcher exotic from the trailer
Damn. Plus what appear to be Exotic Hunter legs.

Looks like if those are right, I will be upgrading my Inmost Light, Sunbreakers, Last Word and Gjallarhorn. Also, that is Super Good Advice right? I don't have that (and don't care to haha so I am not sure about the second to last one). I will be tempted to do Suros or Hard Light though just so I have a really strong primary available from the get go for the DLC...

Again that is all assuming this is what it will look like.

 
BrolyB593 said:
Looks like if those are right, I will be upgrading my Inmost Light, Sunbreakers, Last Word and Gjallarhorn.
Before I do anything with armor pieces, I'm going to have to find out what armor we get in the new Raid (on Normal). For PvE, anyway, I'd think you would want to upgrade (at least initially) only what you can't get via the Raid. I like my Sunbreakers, but assuming they go with the Helm for hard mode again, I'd have to work on one of my two (currently maxed of course) exotic Warlock helms. For my Titan I'd have to go away from Armamentarium and back to the Skullfort or Inmost Light. But who knows, maybe they'll switch it up and have the chest armor be the hard mode exclusive item.

Plus aren't there new exotic armors? Maybe I'd just prefer to buy one of those (if Xur is selling it).

So the other big question which we will find out in less than 12 hours is if Xur will start this exchange program tonight... Though I figure it probably won't kick in until next week.
 
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Before I do anything with armor pieces, I'm going to have to find out what armor we get in the new Raid (on Normal). For PvE, anyway, I'd think you would want to upgrade (at least initially) only what you can't get via the Raid. I like my Sunbreakers, but assuming they go with the Helm for hard mode again, I'd have to work on one of my two (currently maxed of course) exotic Warlock helms. For my Titan I'd have to go away from Armamentarium and back to the Skullfort or Inmost Light. But who knows, maybe they'll switch it up and have the chest armor be the hard mode exclusive item.
I hate the exotic Warlock Helmets though hahaha

I completely agree with your logic but I just do not like those helmets! I actually prefer Inmost Light than the Armamentarium myself anyway though if the new legendary raid gear doesnt have increased heavy ammo then I may be changing that tune.

 
BrolyB593 said:
I hate the exotic Warlock Helmets though hahaha

I completely agree with your logic but I just do not like those helmets! I actually prefer Inmost Light than the Armamentarium myself anyway though if the new legendary raid gear doesnt have increased heavy ammo then I may be changing that tune.
Yeah. I thought the feathered one had a cool look, but it doesn't have any great benefits.

The thing is I'm currently using 3 different types on my 3 characters: Sunbreakers (gloves) on my Warlock, Armamentarium (chest) on my Titan, and Achlyophage Symbiote (helm) on my Hunter (and would probably switch to Kuncklehead Radar if I ever found one).

So, yeah, watch the hard mode armor item be the boots this time ;).

As for the game, I continued hunting Ghosts last night and got the achievement. I still have some more to find on Mars. There were some deviously hidden ones there. And Gotdott, remember that one in the Iron Line (I think) that we were trying to jump up and get? I figured out how and even did it with my Hunter. I was using her to hunt ghosts since I was trying to level the chest armor I got from the Raid the other day. That made some of them more difficult than they should have been, but I think they are all possible to reach with every type of character. You just have to do it in different ways.

On the video I watched the guy went straight across to the upper platform then jumped up to the rock with the Ghost. Remember when we did it we were jumping on the little barriers and then going to a smaller platform off to the right. Well, as a Hunter that is the way to do it. But then you have to jump carefully between some wires to get from there to the ghost. I think it was also easier this time because as a result of the Raid I had turned my brightness up and I could now see the gap in the wires.

Other than that, I'm half a node away from maxing that Hunter chest armor. And then I got the Pocket Infinity bounty again so I figured I might as well do it again (though it costs a lot of glimmer to buy those fusion rifles and I am just recovering from the last time I did that). But otherwise I guess there isn't much for me to do until the DLC hits.

I might run the Raid with randoms on my Titan. I just don't want to go with a group of veterans like I did last week who rush through it all and make me miss the chests. I'd much prefer to run it with noobs, actually, and help them through it. But it is harder than you'd think to hook up with a group like that.
 
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After the flurry of update notes and corrections and clarifications, my new reaction is, "Meh.  I'll wait and see."  It will all probably be fine and fun in the end.  However, I found this one line from DeeJ's latest post most amusing:  

As always, the best way to evolve your Guardian in Destiny is to tackle new challenges and earn new rewards. 

Riiiiiiiiight...So why is it I have I fought the Archon Priest about 20 times and io has 100 Chatterwhites?    :wall:

 
After the flurry of update notes and corrections and clarifications, my new reaction is, "Meh. I'll wait and see." It will all probably be fine and fun in the end. However, I found this one line from DeeJ's latest post most amusing:

As always, the best way to evolve your Guardian in Destiny is to tackle new challenges and earn new rewards.

Riiiiiiiiight...So why is it I have I fought the Archon Priest about 20 times and io has 100 Chatterwhites? :wall:
Just wait and see... Chatterwhite will be the ultra-mega currency that you'll need for the 2nd DLC pack.

We'll all be crying over the number of CW's we dismantled :p

 
aFrostyONE said:
Just wait and see... Chatterwhite will be the ultra-mega currency that you'll need for the 2nd DLC pack.

We'll all be crying over the number of CW's we dismantled :p
I've kept mine. You will all bow down to your Chatterwhite-enshrouded overlord soon enough!
 
Yeah. I thought the feathered one had a cool look, but it doesn't have any great benefits.

The thing is I'm currently using 3 different types on my 3 characters: Sunbreakers (gloves) on my Warlock, Armamentarium (chest) on my Titan, and Achlyophage Symbiote (helm) on my Hunter (and would probably switch to Kuncklehead Radar if I ever found one).

So, yeah, watch the hard mode armor item be the boots this time ;).

As for the game, I continued hunting Ghosts last night and got the achievement. I still have some more to find on Mars. There were some deviously hidden ones there. And Gotdott, remember that one in the Iron Line (I think) that we were trying to jump up and get? I figured out how and even did it with my Hunter. I was using her to hunt ghosts since I was trying to level the chest armor I got from the Raid the other day. That made some of them more difficult than they should have been, but I think they are all possible to reach with every type of character. You just have to do it in different ways.

On the video I watched the guy went straight across to the upper platform then jumped up to the rock with the Ghost. Remember when we did it we were jumping on the little barriers and then going to a smaller platform off to the right. Well, as a Hunter that is the way to do it. But then you have to jump carefully between some wires to get from there to the ghost. I think it was also easier this time because as a result of the Raid I had turned my brightness up and I could now see the gap in the wires.

Other than that, I'm half a node away from maxing that Hunter chest armor. And then I got the Pocket Infinity bounty again so I figured I might as well do it again (though it costs a lot of glimmer to buy those fusion rifles and I am just recovering from the last time I did that). But otherwise I guess there isn't much for me to do until the DLC hits.

I might run the Raid with randoms on my Titan. I just don't want to go with a group of veterans like I did last week who rush through it all and make me miss the chests. I'd much prefer to run it with noobs, actually, and help them through it. But it is harder than you'd think to hook up with a group like that.
Since you are running out of things to do and hunting ghosts, might as well work on your grimoire score ;)

 
gotdott said:
Since you are running out of things to do and hunting ghosts, might as well work on your grimoire score ;)
Well, yeah, that's why I would keep looking for the rest of the ghosts after I got the achievement. Plus I have to tease out what little story there is through those grimoire cards ;).

Most of my remaining grimoire and achievements would be crucible-related. I'm not sure I want to get into that though.
 
Well, yeah, that's why I would keep looking for the rest of the ghosts after I got the achievement. Plus I have to tease out what little story there is through those grimoire cards ;).

Most of my remaining grimoire and achievements would be crucible-related. I'm not sure I want to get into that though.
Why not? You've already put in 400 hours and got the mechanics down, time to put that to the test against other guardians! It just takes some (more) time to learn the map layouts and who knows you might end up liking more than you'll admit :p

 
I thought the ghost hunting was a nice change of pace.  It was quiet, low-key, and relaxing.  I noticed and appreciated a lot more about the level design when I was hunting for the dead ghosts.  It was worth the effort, I thought. 

I know I've been MIA from Destiny for a while, I'm playing Inquisition now and the whole real-world thing (kids with colds and busy at work) gets in the way of my gaming time, but I'm looking to jump back into Destiny next week and probably this weekend, too.  See y'all online.  :joystick:

 
gotdott said:
Why not? You've already put in 400 hours and got the mechanics down, time to put that to the test against other guardians! It just takes some (more) time to learn the map layouts and who knows you might end up liking more than you'll admit :p
Perhaps - but even though I've put a ton of time into the game that is almost why I don't want to get into Crucible. I'd have to invest a ton more time to learn the maps and understand the gameplay there and I don't want to get sucked into this game even more. I really need to cut back and now we have the DLC coming so that is plenty.

chubbyninja1319 said:
I thought the ghost hunting was a nice change of pace. It was quiet, low-key, and relaxing. I noticed and appreciated a lot more about the level design when I was hunting for the dead ghosts. It was worth the effort, I thought.
Yeah, it was kind of like that. Plus it brought me to places I hadn't been in a long time or to out of the way areas of places I had been to many times. For example, I had no idea you could get to the third level of the library (where you first run into the Vex). Yeah, there's a Ghost up there.
 
Xur's wares this week:

titans-Helm of Inmost Light str95/102

hunters-Young Ahamkaras Spine dis88/95

warlocks-Light Beyond Nemesis (at least their not sunbreakers  ;) ) 88/94

weapon-Plan C (again)

exotic shards for 7 coins

engram-missing in action

telemetries-pulse, hand cannon, machine gun (pick some up for the exotic reset)

heavy ammo for 1 coin (yes please)

 
Meh - guess I'll go buy a shard just in case I get a new exotic first thing Tuesday. Those are all the wrong telemetries (I'd buy sniper and rocket launcher). And it is a total waste to buy the exotics. I'm assuming he'll offer the better ones starting next week, right?
 
I've been wanting an exotic helmet for a while. But, yeah, why not just wait until next week and see what's up? If I can buy an exotic today and not level it up, but trade it in for a stronger one, that may not be a bad deal.
 
Nothing from Xur for me. I already have 3x Exotic Shards so I am debating on buying another right now.

We need one to upgrade the item and then one at the end to max it right? So each upgraded item will require 2 Shards total correct?

In that case I might as well buy a couple just to have but really since I already have 3 that I can use for any NEW ones I get, why not just wait until next week to buy them and go from there because who knows maybe I will randomly get more exotics between then and now! My nightfalls have been really lucky. All duplicates but at least I can break them down. I got an exotic on each character this week I believe. Universal Remote x2 and Last Word. Last week I got a Plan C after buying it from Xur too. But yeah like I said then that means 3x Exotic Shards for me from the get go already which is not too bad. I am curious how many Strange Coins I even have now since they are spread across my three characters and the Vault hah

 
Figures.  Now that i have plenty of coins, the AR hasn't shown up with Xur.

BTW is it just me or did the weekly strikes get harder?  I used to be able to solo them on lvl 28 up until a few weeks,  now i can't even manage lvl 26 on my own.

 
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So guys, the upgrade has been clarified - the upgraded exotics are more powerful from the start (you don't lose your hours of hard work io ;))

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Iron Banner is also coming back on 12/16 with level 31 gear for those who are unable to/don't wish to partake in Crota's End

 
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Figures. Now that i have plenty of coins, the AR hasn't shown up with Xur.

BTW is it just me or did the weekly strikes get harder? I used to be able to solo them on lvl 28 up until a few weeks, now i can't even manage lvl 26 on my own.
Yea there was a recent update to make the difficulty spike from 1-3 player strikes closer together so 3 man strikes are easier now and soloing is harder but still manageable.

 
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So guys, the upgrade has been clarified - the upgraded exotics are more powerful from the start

Iron Banner is also coming back on 12/16 with level 31 gear for those who are unable to/don't wish to partake in Crota's End
It is still so many more nodes to fill up thoughhhhhh

And somewhat annoyed that Iron Banner is back up already with even better gear seeing as it hasn't even been a month yet since the last one where I played like crazy to get the extra 30 gear..

 
Yea there was a recent update to make the difficulty spike from 1-3 player strikes closer together so 3 man strikes are easier now and soloing is harder but still manageable.
Aye. Directly from the update a couple weeks back:

We made a couple of changes. First, we tuned the damage to be a little easier overall so that we’d see higher survival rates in 3-player fireteams. Then, we normalized these damage values across all group sizes so that players wouldn’t feel that additional Guardians joining their Strike made things harder. Players can now be certain that people joining their team are helping their progress, not hindering it.

The side effect of this change is that playing Strikes solo has indeed become a little harder. We acknowledge that this is undesirable for many players and we are considering different ways to solve these problems.
 
It is still so many more nodes to fill up thoughhhhhh

And somewhat annoyed that Iron Banner is back up already with even better gear seeing as it hasn't even been a month yet since the last one where I played like crazy to get the extra 30 gear..
y u haff 2 complain when there are no deets

i mean if they do helm/chest this time it's not really taking away from your hard work you silly goose

 
The race begins on December 9th at 1AM Pacific Time. You will not need to complete the other Missions, Quests, Bounties, or Strikes first. The Raid will beckon at Zero Hour.

Good luck. We’ll be staying up late to watch.

looks like you get your head start io, let us know how it goes

also I guess this (kinda) confirms that you can get 30 from vendors:

Soon, some of you will soon face what lurks in The Dark Below. If you’re not accepting Eris’s call to war against the Hive and their dark God, you’re still welcome to browse the new wares in the Tower. If you’ve been struggling to reach Level 30, a whole new path is about to become illuminated by green flames.

 
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also I guess this confirms that you can get 30 from vendors:

Soon, some of you will soon face what lurks in The Dark Below. If you’re not accepting Eris’s call to war against the Hive and their dark God, you’re still welcome to browse the new wares in the Tower. If you’ve been struggling to reach Level 30, a whole new path is about to become illuminated by green flames.
Told you :nottalking:

 
The level 31 gear from IB pisses me off. I have nearly zero interest in PvP. I need to see the new dlc and play a while before I get too worked up, but I think they're making it too complicated to get to level 30. The randomness bullcrap still grates on me
 
Still skeptical because of the green flames comment. I think there are strings attached.

THERE ARE NO STRINGS ON ME #avengers2hype
Smooth reference there hahah

But yeah the additional 'strings' will be the commendation crap that they mentioned before most likely. Regardless it will be far easier than running the Raid 30x+ and never getting gauntlets...

 
That is good that the upgraded exotics start out more powerful, but I definitely think that they backed off their original plan after the community collectively lost it.  At least they are listening to us on some level.

I guess I need to stock up on some exotic shards from Xur.  Will probably upgrade icebreaker and hold off on anything else. Don't think I'll waste coins on anything else this week with the new stuff coming out. Although do you think with the expansion out on Tuesday out they might make Xur show before next Friday?

I have one 30 and if I grind enough I can get at least one other to 29 which should at least get me in a position to tag along with groups that are running the raid. 

Edit - I think that glimmer part isn't correct

 
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also important to note for any of you holding onto exotic bounties

(from reddit)

  • Will Exotic bounties currently in progress result in a 300 or 320 version when completed? > Completing them after the DLC will give you the 320 version. Per DeeJ's twitter.
 
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also important to note for any of you holding onto exotic bounties

(from reddit)

  • Will Exotic bounties currently in progress result in a 300 or 320 version when completed? > Completing them after the DLC will give you the 320 version. Per DeeJ's twitter.
Hmmmmmmmm interesting. Good thing I have been too lazy to finish off my Pocket Infinity bounty haha

 
Smooth reference there hahah

But yeah the additional 'strings' will be the commendation crap that they mentioned before most likely. Regardless it will be far easier than running the Raid 30x+ and never getting gauntlets...
If it makes you feel any better, I played the Vault of Glass for the very first time last night (normal, level 29 Titan) and one of my drops was Kabr's Brazen Grips.
 
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also important to note for any of you holding onto exotic bounties
(from reddit)
  • Will Exotic bounties currently in progress result in a 300 or 320 version when completed? > Completing them after the DLC will give you the 320 version. Per DeeJ's twitter.
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Nice! Good thing my thorn bounty is stuck at that pvp void kill requirement still. Will probably give that a push when dlc hits and enjoy the higher damage version.
 
I did go 90+ hours of gameplay without even being offered an Exotic bounty. I certainly haven't been unusually lucky with the loot overall.
 
I did go 90+ hours of gameplay without even being offered an Exotic bounty. I certainly haven't been unusually lucky with the loot overall.
I went over almost 200 hours of gameplay before I got my first Exotic Bounty... : /

Everyone I play with agrees that my luck has been the most absolute worst in this game period. This past week where I have gotten a few exotics is by far the most lucky I have been since launch.

This post was not meant to be a pissing contest to say 'mine is worse' but moreover just add to the fact that the RNG is an effing joke in this.

 
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+1000 this. fuck NotoriousR.N.G.
I'm sure the "new and improved" RNG will be much better... But seriously at least one piece of raid gear should drop each time through, even at that pace it still takes you a month to get a full set. It is silly that someone can play the raid every week since the game came out and not get one piece of armor they need but there is a chance someone could get a full set in one try.

How is the upgrade exotic armor going to work? It will have higher defense than the old maxed version but the light will be reset? Or it will keep the light level and be upgradable to a higher light level?

 
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^ For real though... I only have 6 armor pieces to show for all my raid runs.  Where I've gotten something like 7 each of Found Verdict and Praedyth's Revenge alone.

At least I was lucky enough to complete the full raid set, eventually.

Not sure on the Exotic armor but I would think the light level would start at 30.

 
Wonder why xur didnt have any engrams today? Maybe to avoid people hoarding engrams and decoding them post patch for a chance to get dlc gears? Hehe!
 
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What are the odds of Bungie's servers keeping up with traffic on Tuesday? Slim being 10 and none being 0.

Does anyone want to co-op the new story missions to unlock the strike and raid more quickly or is everyone going solo the first time through?
 
[quote name="RADa5AURU5" post="12302268" timestamp="1417816256"]What are the odds of Bungie's servers keeping up with traffic on Tuesday? Slim being 10 and none being 0.

Does anyone want to co-op the new story missions to unlock the strike and raid more quickly or is everyone going solo the first time through?[/quote]

Itll keep up. Remember that most of the dlc is already in the game discs and bungies been patching the game lately. They have probably put alot of unaanounced patches for the dlc in the patches weve received to lessen the load. So i would think the least they will do is have a short maintenance window so everyone logs out and have servers reboot for the expansion
 
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