Do all the decent girls always have bfs?

[quote name='JSweeney']Oh, most certainly.
But I hardly consider myself to be one worthy such a lofty label such as virtuous.
Rather than an a course of actions actually shaping things leading to this end product, it's more likely to be a distinct pattern of inaction, missed oportunities and squandered resources.[/QUOTE]

Do I have to beat you.
 
[quote name='Lina']Do I have to beat you.[/QUOTE]

Considering that it's me, I have a feeling I'd have to pay for something like that.
 
jaykrue, I've always known that I had more than one option but it's always good to be reminded of that. I think it boils down to me just having to be really patient. I'll either need to wait to find the right single girl or wait until one of the girls who has a bf ends that relationship and becomes single again. I also have the option of a girl who might not be vegetarian but at least respectful of that and who I can lead to the green side of the force. ;)
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Considering that it's me, I have a feeling I'd have to pay for something like that.[/QUOTE]

Why are you trying to make me angry. :cry:
 
What's up Sweeney? I consider you among my favorite posters here, if only cause you seem to be the smartest poster and the fact that you analytically break down arguments, instead of doing something like me and going "NUH-UH!!! I'm right!"
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Oh, most certainly.
But I hardly consider myself to be one worthy such a lofty label such as virtuous.
Rather than an a course of actions actually shaping things leading to this end product, it's more likely to be a distinct pattern of inaction, missed oportunities and squandered resources.[/QUOTE]

But isn't that virtue? I've seen very little virtue that didn't involve holding back, but it all really cycles back to the question of what do you plan to do in the future? More of the same or are you sick enough to cope with the change?
 
[quote name='Lina']Why are you trying to make me angry. :cry:[/QUOTE]

I realize what you are trying to do, and it's sweet. It really is.
This is a situation I've created for myself. It not something worthy of pity or envoking of pathos. People who've had grevious things inflicted upon them, such as disease, becoming crippled, natural disaster, wages of war, etc are all worth of pity.

I'm just a whiny, self indulgent moron, pretending and toying with the idea of "how bad he has it". I have a good job. I have relatively decent overall level of health.
I have a loving family. Overall, I have a good life.
I'm not worth of pity.
Mockery or ridicule, sure. I deserve it.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']I realize what you are trying to do, and it's sweet. It really is.
This is a situation I've created for myself. It not something worthy of pity or envoking of pathos. People who've had grevious things inflicted upon them, such as disease, becoming crippled, natural disaster, wages of war, etc are all worth of pity.

I'm just a whiny, self indulgent moron, pretending and toying with the idea of "how bad he has it". I have a good job. I have relatively decent overall level of health.
I have a loving family. Overall, I have a good life.
I'm not worth of pity.
Mockery or ridicule, sure. I deserve it.[/QUOTE]

Not worthy of pity? What about self-pity?

Buck up. Don't let life get you down. [insert cliche here]
 
Before this thread degenerates any further from the original topic I want to thank the posters who had thoughtful things to say and advice to give. I appreciate it. I also thank you all for listening to me vent. :)
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']Yes, I'm vegan. It's funny that it only started to turn into a political discussion after I gave my point of view on the issue. Guess it's not political when you agree with it. I won't say anymore about the moral grounds of my beliefs if the other people stop making their comments. I'll remind everyone that my topic started out about the type of girl I like always having a bf. I didn't even state what my type of girl was originally or my beliefs to avoid arguments.[/QUOTE]

Ah, but you knew the line of reasoning would lead to "What sort of girl are you looking for?" And then you could interject with your beliefs. Leading to a discussion you not only seemed to tolerate, but fostered.

It is political even if I do agree with it; however, the earlier posters were questioning your, I'll call it faith, that prevented you from finding the "right girl". Thus their arguments were not attacking your belief at the core, they were simply focusing the light on the source of your problem.

Now that I've gotten around to the problem. I have abolutely no sympathy for you. It's self inflicted. It would be like someone deciding they would only buy Toyota cars for a completely extraneous, potentially moral, reason, and then complaining that Toyota either didn't make a model that they could seriously buy, or that all the ones they liked were taken.

Drive a Mazda. You might like the difference.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']I appreciate the advice but most of the advice doesn't really apply to me. See I'm a strict vegetarian and it takes a very long time to find like-minded girls and on top of that be attracted to them or have anything in common etc. Plus I'm a prude, and don't drink, or do drugs. I have very little in common with most people. So, it's always annoying when I finally meet a girl like myself and she always turns out to have a bf.[/QUOTE]

Late to the party, but in my opinion, you answered your own question right here.

You have very strict criteria (not that I'm passing judgement) that limits both the types of people you can date, and the type of places that you can meet them.

I don't know if this is the case, but I'll bring up the possibility that the potential girls you are interested in might not be as strict in thier convictions as you. That is to say, if the the girl is a vegetarian, but doesn't mind dating non-vegetarians, then the number of possible guys she can date far outnumbers the possible girls you can date.

In other words, you are looking for something very specific, but the corresponding girl is not being so specific. Thus, she is going to encounter a lot more compatable people than you, and it is no surprise that she will have a BF.

As you said yourself, you are looking for something very specific, and seemingly unwilling to compromise. So you'll just have to hang in there and be patient.
 
[quote name='fanskad']Not worthy of pity? What about self-pity?

Buck up. Don't let life get you down. [insert cliche here][/QUOTE]

There's a fairly subtle difference between pity and contempt.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']There's a fairly subtle difference between pity and contempt.[/QUOTE]

Touche. I'm beginning to feel the serious vibe from you.

I'll cease my prattering. One last note, now that my curiousity has been piqued, I'll ask once that you send the reasons for your melancholy to me. I doubt I would be able to help though.

Call it morbid fascination.
 
[quote name='fanskad']I believe it was sarcasm, referring to Lina's assertion "I just want a fuck-buddy."[/QUOTE]

Who doesnt want a fuck buddy? Why tip-toe around the issue? :bouncy:

Hell, I would go out and get some right now if I could.....but sex isnt instant coffee. In some ways, thats a good thing because instant coffee taste like shit.
 
[quote name='fanskad']Ah, but you knew the line of reasoning would lead to "What sort of girl are you looking for?" And then you could interject with your beliefs. Leading to a discussion you not only seemed to tolerate, but fostered.

It is political even if I do agree with it; however, the earlier posters were questioning your, I'll call it faith, that prevented you from finding the "right girl". Thus their arguments were not attacking your belief at the core, they were simply focusing the light on the source of your problem.

Now that I've gotten around to the problem. I have abolutely no sympathy for you. It's self inflicted. It would be like someone deciding they would only buy Toyota cars for a completely extraneous, potentially moral, reason, and then complaining that Toyota either didn't make a model that they could seriously buy, or that all the ones they liked were taken.

Drive a Mazda. You might like the difference.[/QUOTE]

Ah, but faith is belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. Many reasons people choose to be vegetarian or vegan is based on hard facts. Generally speaking the only people who are vegetarian for faith based reasons would be those who do so for religious reasons like Hindus. But I digress.

I actually do my best to keep an open mind about girls who may not share the same views I do. The main reason I started this topic was to complain about the fact that the girls who are perfect for me are always taken. There's nothing wrong with letting off a little steam and an online forum can be a good place for that especially when you want to have people agree with your complaint which the early posts in this topic did. The fact remains that it is true that many, not all, but many of the decent girls are taken. That makes sense though because if they are decent that means people would be interested in them and decent girls would often be in healthy long-term relationships so the truth is the decent girls would rarely be single. The moral of the story is the more particular you are the longer you have to wait but patience it a virtue.
 
Sometimes a girl says she has a BF because she simply isn't interested. If you have problems getting girls to go out with you simply change the girls you approach. If that dosn't help, you might be doing something to scare them away.
 
[quote name='spaceloaf']In other words, you are looking for something very specific, but the corresponding girl is not being so specific. Thus, she is going to encounter a lot more compatable people than you, and it is no surprise that she will have a BF.[/QUOTE]

I've pretty much already said that and I agree with you. It's ironic but there are often posts on vegetarian forums of girls complaining about their meat eating bfs and husbands. They rant about how their guys don't respect their beliefs and how they tease them and just don't get it etc. I guess it serves those girls right for not waiting for the vegetarian guys who are complaining about them in a different online thread.
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']Sometimes a girl says she has a BF because she simply isn't interested. If you have problems getting girls to go out with you simply change the girls you approach. If that dosn't help, you might be doing something to scare them away.[/QUOTE]

I mentioned in an earlier post that I hadn't asked them out in the first place.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']I mentioned in an earlier post that I hadn't asked them out in the first place.[/QUOTE]

I know. I'm just offering general advice. As for you, don't get discouraged.
 
[quote name='camoor']50% of Americans agree that we're not a divided country.[/QUOTE]

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that ...
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']I know. I'm just offering general advice. As for you, don't get discouraged.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Ironically I have a 100% success rate at getting phone numbers from girls I've asked. Some girls have even just given me their numbers literally out of the blue right after I've met them. Too bad none of them ended up being what I was looking for. The search for the holy grail continues. lol
 
Eh, I find that when I'm friends with the girl first, the relationship lasts longer and I'm happier. Different strokes for different folks, though.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Guess I REALLY screwed up. As if that would come as much of shock to anyone.[/QUOTE]

Nah, you didn't really screw up. Incorrect perception.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Considering that it's me, I have a feeling I'd have to pay for something like that.[/QUOTE]

Another interesting visual.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']Thanks. Ironically I have a 100% success rate at getting phone numbers from girls I've asked. Some girls have even just given me their numbers literally out of the blue right after I've met them. Too bad none of them ended up being what I was looking for. The search for the holy grail continues. lol[/QUOTE]

Mine is the exact opposite. I am generally fairly quiet and keep to myself, so meeting people is a little difficult. But once I get talking or get focused on asking out someone, I am generally successful. You aren't the only one searching. Right now I am single after a 4 year relationship, which I ended. It is actually a weird feeling to be single again, but it feels refreshing.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']While true, it's easier in the metro areas, that shouldn't restrict you in actively finding a cutie. I drive down I-57 down to the Kankakee area (a lot of corn country) and I've even met a few girls at the rest stops and gas stations. Seriously, I can find'em anywhere.[/QUOTE]


I agree with this whole heartedly. Kankakee is a nice little area to pick up cute rural girls.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']Thanks. Ironically I have a 100% success rate at getting phone numbers from girls I've asked. [/QUOTE]

Just remember 100% of zero is still zero.;)
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']Mine is the exact opposite. I am generally fairly quiet and keep to myself, so meeting people is a little difficult. But once I get talking or get focused on asking out someone, I am generally successful. You aren't the only one searching. Right now I am single after a 4 year relationship, which I ended. It is actually a weird feeling to be single again, but it feels refreshing.[/QUOTE]

I often keep to myself as well. I'm a loner by nature I guess. I usually don't put myself in situations where I would meet girls in the first place so I guess I should try to get out and socialize more.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']I often keep to myself as well. I'm a loner by nature I guess. I usually don't put myself in situations where I would meet girls in the first place so I guess I should try to get out and socialize more.[/QUOTE]

There you go.
At least something of value has come out of this thread. :)
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']I often keep to myself as well. I'm a loner by nature I guess. I usually don't put myself in situations where I would meet girls in the first place so I guess I should try to get out and socialize more.[/QUOTE]

Only took 229 posts to get him to admit this. ;)
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']I often keep to myself as well. I'm a loner by nature I guess. I usually don't put myself in situations where I would meet girls in the first place so I guess I should try to get out and socialize more.[/QUOTE]

Who would have thought, when you call yourself collectordragon and your location my lair it becomes a bit obvious.:lol:

I suppose you are still in highschool? In college even as a loner it gets a bit easier because your deparment alone could have 1000 women and they force you to take classees to diversify yourself.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']I often keep to myself as well. I'm a loner by nature I guess. I usually don't put myself in situations where I would meet girls in the first place so I guess I should try to get out and socialize more.[/QUOTE]

i can go through out a whole school week without saying a word( in school, im not a mute), i make up for it by posting here
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Who would have thought, when you call yourself collectordragon and your location my lair it becomes a bit obvious.:lol:[/QUOTE]

:D

[quote name='zionoverfire']I suppose you are still in highschool? In college even as a loner it gets a bit easier because your deparment alone could have 1000 women and they force you to take classees to diversify yourself.[/QUOTE]

I finished high school early which was years ago. I'm planning to go back to college in the near future. I did jc for a bit after completing hs but didn't meet any interesting girls there.
 
[quote name='Ozzkev55']i can go through out a whole school week without saying a word( in school, im not a mute), i make up for it by posting here[/QUOTE]

Posting on an online forum is actually more socializing than I usually do. :lol:
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']
I finished high school early which was years ago. I'm planning to go back to college in the near future. I did jc for a bit after completing hs but didn't meet any interesting girls there.[/QUOTE]

Jc won't help, infact it's much worse than high school for meeting women or at least that seems to be the #1 gripe from all my friends who went there. Perhaps a job that requires a lot of socialization would help.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Jc won't help, infact it's much worse than high school for meeting women or at least that seems to be the #1 gripe from all my friends who went there. Perhaps a job that requires a lot of socialization would help.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but unless you're a big-time high roller, most jobs that involve lotsa ppl interaction (cube jobs notwithstanding) are customer service reps or dining service jobs like waiting or cooking and they're not exactly the most conducive type of environments to ppl being friendly to you.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Yeah, but unless you're a big-time high roller, most jobs that involve lotsa ppl interaction (cube jobs notwithstanding) are customer service reps or dining service jobs like waiting or cooking and they're not exactly the most conducive type of environments to ppl being friendly to you.[/QUOTE]

I'm suggestion an attempt to improve social skills, if you can deal with an irate customer then you should do just fine meeting people. Although college would be the best route that's not always an option for everyone right now.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Jc won't help, infact it's much worse than high school for meeting women or at least that seems to be the #1 gripe from all my friends who went there. Perhaps a job that requires a lot of socialization would help.[/QUOTE]

Meh. I went to CC, and it's only harder because there's no dorms and there's less people. But, there's still many chances to hook up with people. Plus, everyone is mostly the same there... losers who aren't rich, and have no clue what they're doing with their life. ;)
 
[quote name='Lina']Meh. I went to CC, and it's only harder because there's no dorms and there's less people. But, there's still many chances to hook up with people. Plus, everyone is mostly the same there... losers who aren't rich, and have no clue what they're doing with their life. ;)[/QUOTE]

Hey! I used to resemble that remark! :p
 
I don't even try to pick up girls at school anymore. Almost everyone my age either wants to get wasted everyday or are too uptight to have a good time.
 
as the bf of a "decent"(more like amazing) girl I have to say that I'll fight as much as possible to keep her. the one thing I cant stand is someone tryign to interfere in the relationship. I'm not the jealous kind either. I dont care how many guy's she's friends with but as soon as one of them thinks she's better off with him than me then I have a problem.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']Do you guys think being a really old freshman will make it easier or harder to find a girl I'm interested in?[/QUOTE]

How old is really old? Anything over 25 normally makes it extrememly hard unless you can fit in the with grad students.:D
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']How old is really old? Anything over 25 normally makes it extrememly hard unless you can fit in the with grad students.:D[/QUOTE]

I may be as old as 25 when I go back to school. But I look much younger than my actual age. Most people seem to think I'm 17. Including people around that age.
 
[quote name='Collectordragon']I may be as old as 25 when I go back to school. But I look much younger than my actual age. Most people seem to think I'm 17. Including people around that age.[/QUOTE]

Well that's good, it's mainly some of the characteristics you start to get near 25 that turn some people off. If you choose a large enough school it shouldn't be a problem.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Well that's good, it's mainly some of the characteristics you start to get near 25 that turn some people off. If you choose a large enough school it shouldn't be a problem.[/QUOTE]

What type of characteristics?
 
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