[quote name='MarkMan']Not for me =/= bad game.
If that was the case, then uraizen would call every game a bad game.[/QUOTE]
not for me was my way or politely implying that I think VF4 was not a good game. but everything like that is pretty subjective.
maybe I was playing it wrong. maybe the tutorials just suck. maybe the general engine is just not something i can appreciate.
either way, it always felt to me like a slower, boring imitation of the Tekken series (after playing Tekken 2, around the time of VF2/3).
I think I tried VF4 because I loved Tekken 3 so much and at the time VF4 came out, the only Tekken on PS2 was TTT and I'd played that to death and wanted something new.
after not really vibing with the game's fighting system, hating the tutorials where most moves were too simple or too complex, I tired of using wolf and spamming hammer throws and lariats and the like, since he was the only one who felt anything like I thought he should, I traded the game back to EBgames. several years later, they released EVO at the $20 price point with the new characters and whatever -- I got it and tried to get into it again and was disappointed again. shame on me.