Halo 3 - General Discussion & Info

Though in all fairness a copy of Halo 3 costs $60 (not to mention those people that spent more for the other two versions) whereas a movie ticket costs $7-10, or a DVD $20-25. So I'd be much more impressed if it sold more copies than the biggest movie sold tickets.

In other words, I want to see the number of copies sold. IMO that's the real number to use if you want to make a claim like "Biggest media launch ever!"
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Though in all fairness a copy of Halo 3 costs $60 (not to mention those people that spent more for the other two versions) whereas a movie ticket costs $7-10, or a DVD $20-25. So I'd be much more impressed if it sold more copies than the biggest movie sold tickets.

In other words, I want to see the number of copies sold. IMO that's the real number to use if you want to make a claim like "Biggest media launch ever!"[/QUOTE]

But at the same time the production cost of movies is much much more to produce than video games. So the profit margin is much higher.
 
Doesn't matter to me how much money it made. All I'm saying is the more important number is how many people actually bought the game. If more people bought Halo 3 than went to see the biggest movie ever made (I don't know what that is), then I'll be impressed.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Doesn't matter to me how much money it made. All I'm saying is the more important number is how many people actually bought the game. If more people bought Halo 3 than went to see the biggest movie ever made (I don't know what that is), then I'll be impressed.[/QUOTE]

Well movie sales aren't based on tickets sold, they're based on net $, as ticket prices vary across the country.

EDIT: The highest grossing movie of all time was Titanic:
1 Titanic (1997) - 20th Century Fox / Paramount $1,845,034,188
2 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) - New Line Cinema $1,118,888,979
3 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) - Buena Vista/Walt Disney $1,066,179,725

Titanic is a real rarity though, it was played for 9 months straight throughout the entire country. LOTR: ROTK is probably the most accurate in terms of a "best grossing" movie during a normal run, but at the same time you have to consider that people go to see movies like ROTK more than once, and thus double/triple/etc ticket sales, whereas video games most people only buy one copy (albeit at a higher price). There aren't any great indicators of ticket sale numbers (per individual) for movies.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Though in all fairness a copy of Halo 3 costs $60 (not to mention those people that spent more for the other two versions) whereas a movie ticket costs $7-10, or a DVD $20-25. So I'd be much more impressed if it sold more copies than the biggest movie sold tickets.

In other words, I want to see the number of copies sold. IMO that's the real number to use if you want to make a claim like "Biggest media launch ever!"[/quote]

Are you saying it's easy to get a bunch of people to buy a 60-70-120 dollar game?
 
A few of my friends are NOT liking Halo3. I think it is more of a trying to get used to it. I personally am enjoying it. Played a few ranked matches, then I jumped to unranked as that was the only way to do a big team battle it seems. I wanted to drive that Elephant!

I need some sniper practice, as I was horrible on Sniper matches....anyways, great game in my opinion.
 
yeah....Harry Potter sold what...25 million copies?


gg ms. even if Halo was the same price as Harry Potter, it wouldn't have moved that many copies. congrats to Bungie, but it's hard to get excited about this kind of marketing tripe when a lot of non gamers still don't know what Halo or an Xbox 360 is.
 
[quote name='doubledown']A few of my friends are NOT liking Halo3. I think it is more of a trying to get used to it. I personally am enjoying it. Played a few ranked matches, then I jumped to unranked as that was the only way to do a big team battle it seems. I wanted to drive that Elephant!

I need some sniper practice, as I was horrible on Sniper matches....anyways, great game in my opinion.[/quote]

Yeah, its about getting used to it. AFter all, most of us have been playing Halo 2 since 2004.

That being said...

I'm not too keen on how the Energy Sword is pretty much neutered now. The delay in using it really makes it harder to go nuts with it like in Halo 2. Other than that, I love the weapons and the tweaks to previous weapons in the series. The Gravity Hammer is pretty sweet.
 
[quote name='lordwow']But at the same time the production cost of movies is much much more to produce than video games. So the profit margin is much higher.[/QUOTE]


Not so fast, my friend. That's not true with Halo. MS will never tell us how much they spent to make Halo 3, so it's all a guess. But I'd wager that the budget was easily a medium movie budget if not more.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Not so fast, my friend. That's not true with Halo. MS will never tell us how much they spent to make Halo 3, so it's all a guess. But I'd wager that the budget was easily a medium movie budget if not more.[/quote]That was one thing I wondered. Given 3 years of game development, production, marketing (commericals, etc.), did the Halo 3 project become profitable in 24 hours or not?

I imagine it did, but there was a metric ton of cash spent on this thing.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Yeah, its about getting used to it. AFter all, most of us have been playing Halo 2 since 2004.

That being said...

I'm not too keen on how the Energy Sword is pretty much neutered now. The delay in using it really makes it harder to go nuts with it like in Halo 2. Other than that, I love the weapons and the tweaks to previous weapons in the series. The Gravity Hammer is pretty sweet.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, my friends are odd it seems. They LOVE Halo 1, they did not like Halo2 that much. The one basically said Halo3 was Halo2.5 basically. I enjoy it though....there are enough differences. Although, I have yet to play the campaign much.
 
Can't get used to whatever change was made to the Marine sniper. :bomb:

It feels like I have to fire it earlier than intended.
 
[quote name='Apossum']yeah....Harry Potter sold what...25 million copies?


gg ms. even if Halo was the same price as Harry Potter, it wouldn't have moved that many copies. congrats to Bungie, but it's hard to get excited about this kind of marketing tripe when a lot of non gamers still don't know what Halo or an Xbox 360 is.[/QUOTE]
Exactly my point. I'm not degrading the game's accomplishment. It sold a fuckton of units I'm sure, but I highly doubt as many people bought Halo 3 as went to see Titanic, or the LotR movies, or the Harry Potters. Same with the number of people who bought the Harry Potter books, or the number of people who bought the LotR DVDs. That's why I'm pretty reluctant to call it the biggest launch in US entertainment.
 
The profit margins on DS games like Nintendogs, Brain Age, and Pokemon D/P are a lot better then Halo 3. World wide, I doubt Halo 3 can surpass those sales. Still, its VERY good sales for an M rated game.
 
So I'm not the only one that thought that.

[quote name='thrustbucket']Can someone please tell me how to adjust the sound settings? I can't find it in any of the menus. It's the first 360 game that doesn't seem to have it in the start menu. I feel the music is way too loud and the sound effects are way too quiet.[/QUOTE]
 
No I just suck at driveing the warthog.

[quote name='triforcer']were you walking or something? you usually end up with a minute or two spare, just drive and forget about the enemies.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Doesn't matter to me how much money it made. All I'm saying is the more important number is how many people actually bought the game. If more people bought Halo 3 than went to see the biggest movie ever made (I don't know what that is), then I'll be impressed.[/quote]
You're looking at it the wrong way. When a game sells one million copies, it is considered a bona fide mega-hit. So a $60 game = $60 million in sales over the course of its lifetime. Halo 3 tripled that number in one day. Imagine a friend of yours who does the same job as you in the same field but makes triple your yearly salary in one day. I'd imagine developers are green with envy.
 
Damn I really need to get live gold again. I just got done playing some deathmatches and am really into it again. Isn't today the last day for the free live?
 
[quote name='sendme']So I'm not the only one that thought that.[/QUOTE]

Nope. It agitates the shit out of me that I have to crank up the volume to the point that the voice actors and music are nearly deafening to even hear my gun reload. And the weapon sounds are so quiet that it feels like everything is a pea shooter.
 
I missed alot of what was said in game and even in some of the videos due to the music. I did not want to turn my tv up really loud. Two other things I did not like about the game is the way it saves a game and the fact that all the cut scenes it does not save so you can watch them over again. Atleast I have not found them unless they are in theater mode and then you have to watch all of what you played to see them. As for the way the game saves in order to save you have to quit the game and I do not like that. Also it saves at the last checkpoint. In chapter 8 I was about half way through one part that I always died at. I had a good enough amount of ammo and everything near me was dead. I was doing good for that part. I went to save thinking I would load it back that that spot. Only to find when I went back in that I had to start from the last checkpoint. If it was not for that I could give this game a 9 but them 3 things put it to a 7.5 8 at best. What really saves the game is the multiplayer.
 
[quote name='Kendro']You're looking at it the wrong way. When a game sells one million copies, it is considered a bona fide mega-hit. So a $60 game = $60 million in sales over the course of its lifetime. Halo 3 tripled that number in one day. Imagine a friend of yours who does the same job as you in the same field but makes triple your yearly salary in one day. I'd imagine developers are green with envy.[/QUOTE]
Again, I'm not saying it didn't accomplish something. Anyone who said otherwise would be lying. I just have a hard time believeing it accomplished the best launch in US entertainment history.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Nope. It agitates the shit out of me that I have to crank up the volume to the point that the voice actors and music are nearly deafening to even hear my gun reload. And the weapon sounds are so quiet that it feels like everything is a pea shooter.[/quote]

That's about my one complaint thus far. I've always preferred the human weapons because in H1 and 2, they sounded very satisfying. Now it's like, "Meh, I'm shootin' a gun".

However, the Gravity Hammer sounds good/is fun to terrorize the enemies with.
 
Anyone know off hand (I'm 5 hours from being home), can you switch the stick controls around? Not just inverted but actually make the left stick the right stick and vice verse. I have a weird firend who likes it that way.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']That's pretty sweet, didn't notice it was you and Zew0ne....who's the 3rd person? Anyways thanks for the video, I'll add to the OP.[/QUOTE]

Rocksolidaudio is the third.
 
[quote name='daroga']Anyone know off hand (I'm 5 hours from being home), can you switch the stick controls around? Not just inverted but actually make the left stick the right stick and vice verse. I have a weird firend who likes it that way.[/QUOTE]
Your friend must like not being able to hit a damn thing with melee then x_X (having to let go of the movement stick to attack)
 
[quote name='Kendro']You're looking at it the wrong way. When a game sells one million copies, it is considered a bona fide mega-hit. So a $60 game = $60 million in sales over the course of its lifetime. Halo 3 tripled that number in one day. Imagine a friend of yours who does the same job as you in the same field but makes triple your yearly salary in one day. I'd imagine developers are green with envy.[/QUOTE]


This is why it should've been kept to "biggest game launch in U.S. history" where the superlative is undebatable. But they decided to go the "blind them with pizazz, sales figures, and ambiguous words" route and declare the "biggest" launch in entertainment. Looks like a good headline (and thread title), but it rests on a weak comparison and means little, past the gross.

but w/e i'm buying it today :lol:
 
[quote name='daroga']Anyone know off hand (I'm 5 hours from being home), can you switch the stick controls around? Not just inverted but actually make the left stick the right stick and vice verse. I have a weird firend who likes it that way.[/quote]

I believe you can. If I remember correctly it's the southpaw controller scheme.

Just cycle through them and it should be there.
 
If anyone wants to get on and play a game on Heroic or a 4 player group for Legendary I'm in. I tried a few nights ago and did nothing but lag though. I hope it doesn't happen again. I have been playing in deathmatch today and no issue so I don't know what was wrong that night. Just send me a message on live to shazo. As far as I know tonight is the last night of it for free and I do not have any 48 hour codes.

EDIT: I thought on Bungie.net or in the game it showed all the skulls you found in game but I can't find it. Can some one tell me where to go in game or on Bungie.net where to go?
 
HAY GUISE I GOT IT LOL

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^^^shit, that picture sets the "games aren't just for nerds anymore" movement back about 20 years. :lol:
 
[quote name='Apossum']This is why it should've been kept to "biggest game launch in U.S. history" where the superlative is undebatable. But they decided to go the "blind them with pizazz, sales figures, and ambiguous words" route and declare the "biggest" launch in entertainment. Looks like a good headline (and thread title), but it rests on a weak comparison and means little, past the gross. [/QUOTE]
Why?

[quote name='Rei no Otaku']Though in all fairness a copy of Halo 3 costs $60 (not to mention those people that spent more for the other two versions) whereas a movie ticket costs $7-10, or a DVD $20-25. So I'd be much more impressed if it sold more copies than the biggest movie sold tickets.

In other words, I want to see the number of copies sold. IMO that's the real number to use if you want to make a claim like "Biggest media launch ever!"[/QUOTE]

If the Wii sold 1,000,000 systems on launch and the PS3 sold 900,000, you're saying you would be more impressed by the Wii's numbers even though it costs $250 and a PS3 costs $600?

It's impressive that people are willing to spend that kind of money on something they want.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']I love how the game freezes every time I press the guide button.

Really nice feature.[/QUOTE]
Community at its best.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']I love how the game freezes every time I press the guide button.

Really nice feature.[/QUOTE]
Good I thought it was my xbox being about ready to blow up again. Since Halo came out for some reason my 360 louder now and it froze two times from the guide button and twice at the start MS games logo. :whistle2:?
 
[quote name='zewone']Why?
[/QUOTE]

I should say "biggest game launch" or "highest grossing." but saying just "biggest launch" is really vague. More people actually went to see Spider Man 3 and more people bought Harry Potter books. Actually, lots of things beat Halo 3 in terms of individual customers. They're "bigger" in terms of popularity. If halo 3 had more individual customers, which would give it a ridiculous gross, then they could safely make the claim.
 
oh i think there's no shortage of complaints.

mine is scratched, however most of them function.
plus after the shine has worn off, you can send them to ms for new ones.

i think because of the fact that they're not coming out as coasters, people aren't getting super-super-pissed.
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']Only in Halo would you see this kind of response... No complaints about the fucked up discs. Lame... :roll:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you'd expect there to be a thread dedicated to scratched discs and with hundreds of replies. Oh wait....you're just a troll.
 
[quote name='Apossum']I should say "biggest game launch" or "highest grossing." but saying just "biggest launch" is really vague. More people actually went to see Spider Man 3 and more people bought Harry Potter books. Actually, lots of things beat Halo 3 in terms of individual customers. They're "bigger" in terms of popularity. If halo 3 had more individual customers, which would give it a ridiculous gross, then they could safely make the claim.[/QUOTE]
Of course Spiderman and Harry Potter had more customers, they cost a fraction of the price and don't require a $300-$400 piece of equipment to use.

Its very impressive that Halo 3 grossed more money than anything else in its first day. It made more in one day than 99% of games ever make.

I think 'biggest' is appropriate for highest grossing, these things are always measured by dollars and not heads.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Of course Spiderman and Harry Potter had more customers, they cost a fraction of the price and don't require a $300-$400 piece of equipment to use.

Its very impressive that Halo 3 grossed more money than anything else in its first day. It made more in one day than 99% of games ever make.

I think 'biggest' is appropriate for highest grossing, these things are always measured by dollars and not heads.[/QUOTE]


They are measured both ways...

I forgot about SMB3 selling 18 million copies (reminded on gaf), so it still has to beat that.

I don't mean to piss on the parade, I guess MS only cares about the money end, but I just don't think it's truly the biggest.
 
Is the hammer like...REALLY overpowered? I was playing lone wolf and I killed someone who had the hammer and took it.

Needless to say I won.
 
Just stay out of reach from the guy with the hammer, either by backpedaling or shooting from a distance. Once he's in melee range, you're pretty much dead
 
[quote name='whoknows']Is the hammer like...REALLY overpowered? I was playing lone wolf and I killed someone who had the hammer and took it.

Needless to say I won.[/QUOTE]
But...if you took it from him.....
 
[quote name='Damian']But...if you took it from him.....[/QUOTE]
Well, I don't think he was very good at the game or wasn't paying attention since it was fairly easy to kill him and he should have been able to kill me first.
 
[quote name='Apossum']They are measured both ways...

I forgot about SMB3 selling 18 million copies (reminded on gaf), so it still has to beat that.

I don't mean to piss on the parade, I guess MS only cares about the money end, but I just don't think it's truly the biggest.[/QUOTE]
It didn't sell 18 million copies in one day.
 
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