HD DVD thread - Toshiba: HD DVD DISCONTINUED, REPAIR/SUPPORT CONTINUES, NO BLU PLANS

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[quote name='guyver2077']lol why does everyone keep mentioning chris from cali..

i could of sworn he bought an hd player..

honestly i dont even know what toshiba can do to counter.. i dont think its possible.. what can offset warner?

This sucks.. fucking promoting wb store all the time, always picking up hd versions because they were usually superior, and now they dip.[/quote]

That's what boggles my mind, they were pro HDi and then they just give up? They showed favoritism towards HD DVD all they way through (V For Vendetta, Batman Begins, Matrix Trilogy, 300). The thing is, Warner knew that which ever format they chose would tip the war towards their format of choice, I just never expected they'd go with Sony after the love they showed HD DVD, thats why this feels like a betrayal more than anything.

I was feeling guilty about the 3 free Harry Potter Giftsets I got and was tempted to send them back to them, now that they got their $450 million from Sony (allegedly), I say fuck them, I'm keeping one set for me and selling the other 2.

Any takers $80 shipped?
 
yea i mentioned earlier that wb sent me smallville season 6, troy, and haunted hill even thought i cancelled them.. ( i would of rather received 3 potters sets.. thatss awesome)

i already put them on amazon but if someones interested in em let me know..

just popped in an old warner title with the famous " welcome to hd dvd" intro..

blah... those fuckers
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']That's what I'm hoping for.[/quote]Except this almost zero chance of that happening. Not that Disney neutrality would do much for the cause anyway.

Warner was always THE deciding factor in the war. In fact, chances are Universal will soon jump ship rather than already Blu companies when Blu-Ray is th much superior position as of now.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']That said, the hundreds of dollars worth of movies Warner sent me for free was one hell of a going away present ;)[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think that's why they did it...because they sent me a free Blade Runner, 2001, and Full Metal Jacket SE. I'm sorry, HD DVD community! I didn't mean to profit off Warner's retarded shipping department!

[quote name='staplerwow']Warner was always THE deciding factor in the war.[/QUOTE]
There is no "one deciding factor." When all studios are on one side, it's over.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']That's what boggles my mind, they were pro HDi and then they just give up? They showed favoritism towards HD DVD all they way through (V For Vendetta, Batman Begins, Matrix Trilogy, 300). The thing is, Warner knew that which ever format they chose would tip the war towards their format of choice, I just never expected they'd go with Sony after the love they showed HD DVD, thats why this feels like a betrayal more than anything.

I was feeling guilty about the 3 free Harry Potter Giftsets I got and was tempted to send them back to them, now that they got their $450 million from Sony (allegedly), I say fuck them, I'm keeping one set for me and selling the other 2.

Any takers $80 shipped?[/quote]Two points that have to be adressed, and a couple of lines left me borderline insulted.

1) It was likely that these exclusives were tests for the HD market, which probably flopped for them. Remember that even though the lead is pretty significant for Blu Ray in NA, it's a Grand Canyon stretch in other parts of the world. In Europe it's 3:1 Blu, Australia 5.6:1, and in Japan 9:1 :hot:.
2) I'm shocked that anyone think this is a betrayal, considering Warner through the Red side so many bones in the war. That's like saying you feel betrayed after a teacher failing you when they gave you tutoring every day and daily extra credit assignments.
3) And, yes, the payout rumor has been personally debunked by Warner, so please put that to rest against Blu-Ray. This was a fair and square win, unlike the massive moneyhats given to Paramount to switch.
 
Not sure if all of you saw this but...future looking bleaker:
“Based on the timing of the Warner Home Video announcement today, we have decided to postpone our CES 2008 press conference scheduled for Sunday, January 6th at 8:30 p.m. in the Wynn Hotel. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We are currently discussing the potential impact of this announcement with the other HD DVD partner companies and evaluating next steps. We believe the consumer continues to benefit from HD DVD’s commitment to quality and affordability – a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format.
We’ll continue to keep you updated on new developments around HD DVD.”
http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-event-canceled-due-to-warner-announcement/483/
 
[quote name='Sporadic']They could always get Paramount to release the list of movies they plan to release this year. Depending on what they have cooking (possible releases include Godfather, Titanic, Gladiator, Indiana Jones, Collateral etc.) that would offset the sting a little bit.

They could throw pile of cash at Weinstein and try to get them to release movies again. 1408, Grindhouse, Diary Of The Dead would be nice.

Besides that, I bet they are just trying to figure out what the hell happened so they don't look stupid at their press conference.

That said, the hundreds of dollars worth of movies Warner sent me for free was one hell of a going away present ;)[/quote]Weinstein is probably the next one to jump ship to Blu actually, so I highly doubt that.

Actually, I doubt any of the points you made because they seemed outlandish and fanboyish. I have an HD-DVD attachment for 360, and looking at the future Red lineup, I'm just thoroughly disappointed at how thin it is.
 
[quote name='staplerwow']Weinstein is probably the next one to jump ship to Blu actually, so I highly doubt that.

Actually, I doubt any of the points you made because they seemed outlandish and fanboyish. I have an HD-DVD attachment for 360, and looking at the future Red lineup, I'm just thoroughly disappointed at how thin it is.[/QUOTE]

Weinstein is currently out of the HDM arena due to poor sales. The only thing that could even make them consider coming back in is alot of cash money. If they go anywhere at all, it will be to the format who offers them the biggest check and Toshiba has more to prove right now.

My points are outlandish and fanboyish? I don't see how saying Universal and Paramount will continue to release movies is outlandish or fanboyish. Universal has stayed put in worst positions and Paramount has a contract. Paramount announced back in October that they already have 30+ titles planned for 2008. The CEO of the Norway division said they were going to release both The Godfather series and the Indiana Jones series so it's entirely in the realm of possibility.


An even better question though, talking about outlandish and fanboyish, do you read any of the posts you make?

[quote name='staplerwow']
3) And, yes, the payout rumor has been personally debunked by Warner, so please put that to rest against Blu-Ray. This was a fair and square win, unlike the massive moneyhats given to Paramount to switch.[/QUOTE]

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you honestly believe that Warner didn't take a MASSIVE payoff to go Blu? That in just the goodness of their heart they picked Blu?
 
I'm loling at the HDD forums. HD DVD fanboys are wanting the HD DVD forum to sue Warner for "breach of contract". I'm sure Warner didn't break any contracts
 
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[quote name='Sporadic']Are you fucking kidding me? Do you honestly believe that Warner didn't take a MASSIVE payoff to go Blu? That in just the goodness of their heart they picked Blu?[/QUOTE]

WB knew they were the pretty girl at the prom; they'd be stupid, frankly, to turn down any offer. There's no doubt that both groups were wooing WB with flowers and chocolates and jewelry financial incentives.

By the way, there is a format war thread for all this nonsense (I know you know Sporadic, but our overzealous BD fan might want to take his prattling there): http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160918
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Weinstein is currently out of the HDM arena due to poor sales. The only thing that could even make them consider coming back in is alot of cash money. If they go anywhere at all, it will be to the format who offers them the biggest check and Toshiba has more to prove right now.

My points are outlandish and fanboyish? I don't see how saying Universal and Paramount will continue to release movies is outlandish or fanboyish. Universal has stayed put in worst positions and Paramount has a contract. Paramount announced back in October that they already have 30+ titles planned for 2008. The CEO of the Norway division said they were going to release both The Godfather series and the Indiana Jones series so it's entirely in the realm of possibility.


An even better question though, talking about outlandish and fanboyish, do you read any of the posts you make?



Are you fucking kidding me? Do you honestly believe that Warner didn't take a MASSIVE payoff to go Blu? That in just the goodness of their heart they picked Blu?[/quote] Warner gets the blu's - January 4, 2008
Media Wonk attended an industry dinner in Hollywood in early December where he ran into Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group president Kevin Tsujihara and home video president Ron Sanders. Although always nice to see Kevin and Ron, Media Wonk was somewhat taken aback by their apparent alarm at the state of the business. Now we know why.

"Not only did neither [high-def DVD] format really take off as expected in fourth quarter, but standard-def was softer than expected given the release slate," Sanders said Friday, shortly after the studio announced that it will drop is support of the HD DVD format and release its high-def titles exclusively on Blu-ray starting in June. "We’re seeing research now that shows that consumers are starting to delay purchases because of the format war, not just on high-def but standard-def purchases as well. That’s very alarming.”

As part of its ongoing tracking research, Warner has been asking consumers for months whether the format war has had any effect on the regular DVD purchase habits.

"They're waiting for something to happen," Sanders said. "They're waiting for the whole situation to become clear so they know what to buy. If you look at the historical conversion ratios of box office into DVD sales, several titles this fourth quarter underperformed where they should have been."

Whether Warner's move will clarify the situation any is an open question. Between now and the end of May, Warner will issue new releases simultaneously on standard-def and Blu-ray, followed by a release on HD DVD "after a short window."

According to Sanders, however, Warner's decision was driven by consumer behavior, more than an expectation of resolving the format war.

"It’s hard for us to speculate about impact this will have on the format war. All we can do really is make the best decision for our business and the rest of it will really take care of itself, in time," he said. "One of the things you see in the NPD data for this fourth quarter was that even with a $100 [price] premium, Blu-ray set tops outsold HD set tops in December. Even with Toshiba having the lowest-cost player in the market, software sales remained 2 to 1 in favor of Blu-ray."

The studio certainly wouldn't mind if it did help resolve the format war, however.

"Warner Bros.’ move to exclusively release in the Blu-ray disc format is a strategic decision focused on the long term and the most direct way to give consumers what they want," studio chairman/CEO Barry Meyer said in a statement. "The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger."

And finally, because someone is bound to ask, Sanders insisted that no financial inducements were involved in Warner's decision, despite the fairly constant buzz of rumors that Warner was being actively courted by both sides.

"There is absolutely no incentive from either side that would have changed the decision we made based on what we were seeing in the consumer data," he said. "The worldwide DVD business is about $40 billion. Any incentives we might have been offered would have paled next to the lost profits from that business if we get this one wrong.”

Not quite Sherman-esque, but he's unquestionably correct that the long-term risk is greater than the short-term gain.






Now it's all a conspiracy, Warner is lying too, right? Blu-Ray was selling better and their movies were flopping in HD-DVD. That's what fueled their decision.

 
[quote name='getmyrunon']Logic. Digital downloads don't take up shelf space, so there's no need for providers to clearance price them. Plus B&Ms competing with each other to sell the same media products = deals for consumers. Every one of my BRs was purchased with some kind of deal / coupon. There aren't going to be the same types of opportunities when companies go digital for a long time (because the early stages will likely be monopolized by a handful of leading services).[/QUOTE]

Maybe. I guess we will see. Like I said, I have no intention of purchasing through DD, renting is fine with me for the most part. Besides, there is this awesome DD download service called bittorent that I think I'll be using a lot more soon...

Also, if the war really is over, say goodbye to your coupons and bogo sales.
 
[quote name='staplerwow']And finally, because someone is bound to ask, Sanders insisted that no financial inducements were involved in Warner's decision, despite the fairly constant buzz of rumors that Warner was being actively courted by both sides.[/QUOTE]
Like that means anything. We got the same denial from Paramount, and it's not like that denial held much water either.
 
[quote name='staplerwow']
"There is absolutely no incentive from either side that would have changed the decision we made based on what we were seeing in the consumer data," he said. "The worldwide DVD business is about $40 billion. Any incentives we might have been offered would have paled next to the lost profits from that business if we get this one wrong.”






Now it's all a conspiracy, Warner is lying too, right? Blu-Ray was selling better and their movies were flopping in HD-DVD. That's what fueled their decision.

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Yup, so you are basically retarded.

It has nothing to do with a conspiracy and everything to do with the fact that if Paramount/Dreamworks got $150 million, Warner could have easily have gotten someone to match or even double that. Even if they really really wanted to go Blu, they would have still made BDA give them a mountain of money for their allegiance because that's just good business.

In fact, the rumor is that Warner received $450-500 million for exclusivity.
 
Guess I should finally place that order for Band of Brothers since it is becoming harder to find and won't get any easier with this latest news.
 
that fucking sucks. glad I bought that $100 HD-A2 from wal-mart that I'll have to ebay asap. Gave one as a gift, too. Now they'll hate me for it.
 
[quote name='velvet396']that fucking sucks. glad I bought that $100 HD-A2 from wal-mart that I'll have to ebay asap. Gave one as a gift, too. Now they'll hate me for it.[/QUOTE]

Easy buddy , it'll make a great upconvert player .
 
[quote name='velvet396']that fucking sucks. glad I bought that $100 HD-A2 from wal-mart that I'll have to ebay asap. Gave one as a gift, too. Now they'll hate me for it.[/QUOTE]

This just in, HD-DVD discs no longer work and Paramount/Universal are not actually movie companies but a chain of pet stores in the eastern section of the US.
 
[quote name='velvet396']that fucking sucks. glad I bought that $100 HD-A2 from wal-mart that I'll have to ebay asap. Gave one as a gift, too. Now they'll hate me for it.[/QUOTE]

The Golden Compass
Sweeney Todd
Atonement
Charlie Wilson's War
American Gangster
Bee Movie
Beowulf
Awake
Things We Lost in the Fire
Cloverfield
Iron Man


...they/you won't want any of those? Not to make a retarded "LOOK AT THESE MOVIES" list post, but it's not like the entire format closed up shop and set fire to the place on the way out.

Not to mention the stuff that Warner will bring out before the end of May. I won't be hard on you though, the concept of people hating you for giving them an HD DVD player is hilariously awesome.
 
average consumer doesn't know anything about hd dvd or blu ray

so just tell them you got them a HD DVD player, it makes all their regular DVDs in HD

then they'll never hook it up by HDMI so they'll be maxed at 480p but who cares

on a sadder note, i received my 100th hd dvd in the mail today when i got home from work/macking

and it was a warner title
IRONIC????????????? :(
 
[quote name='TrueBlueLS']I say hold on to your hats ladies and gentlemen. I'm interested in what Toshiba has to say in regards to this at CES.[/QUOTE]
...um...look at post #3739 in this thread.

Yeah, I'm interested in what they'll have to say once they get their wits about them, but they haven't given a timetable for that yet.
 
[quote name='TrueBlueLS']I say hold on to your hats ladies and gentlemen. I'm interested in what Toshiba has to say in regards to this at CES.[/QUOTE]

Well, if you ask President Bush, the economy is in *fantastic* shape.

I think this maneuver took a LOT out of Toshiba's plans, as evidenced by their CES postponement. But, Kane's right, there are some good Paramount/Uni titles to look forward to. I'll have to import Sweeney Todd if I want to watch it (Warner has international distribution on it).

That said, I still think the format war is over, over, over...but as others have pointed out, your movies will still work, you'll still have WB releases through May...so it's not a total loss in the meantime. Just another set-top box to put next to your NES and Genesis.
 
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i was trying to think of something witty for him to say about HD DVD and don't worry, but i came up blank
 
Leave it to a "regular person" to say one of the more level-headed things I've seen so far. I was just talking to my brother, who is only casually interested in this at best:

Me: Yeah, so bad news.
Him: What??
Me: Warner is going Blu-Ray only in June.
Him: What the hell? That's not bad news. I thought you were going to say dad died or something. Who cares? You still have to buy both anyway.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']...um...look at post #3739 in this thread.

Yeah, I'm interested in what they'll have to say once they get their wits about them, but they haven't given a timetable for that yet.[/quote]

And I stand corrected. Sorry for my lack of reading in this thread and else where. Well... here's to Toshiba giving us something big before the month is over.
 
I just realized...WB will delay HD DVD titles from the DVD/Blu-Ray release dates...

Why the fuck would they go and delay titles on purpose after they had already revealed their true intentions? How long of a delay? From the quote above it makes it seem that the delay is to purposely release less titles on HD DVD. Assuming 30 titles come out from WB between now and May, it could mean that out of those 30 titles only 15-20 will make it to HD DVD within that time frame.

Am I anylizing too much into this?
 
[quote name='msuna']Now im aggravated i spent 98 dollars on a damn HD DVD player! BAH[/QUOTE]
...you're weird.


And no, I don't think you're analyzing too much, Link. Whenever support is dropped for something, it never lives up to the "don't worry, we'll continue to support it for (x amount of time)" statement made at the beginning. I'll be surprised if we break 20 titles from Warner between now and June.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']The Golden Compass
Sweeney Todd
Atonement
Charlie Wilson's War
American Gangster
Bee Movie
Beowulf
Awake
Things We Lost in the Fire
Cloverfield
Iron Man


...they/you won't want any of those? Not to make a retarded "LOOK AT THESE MOVIES" list post, but it's not like the entire format closed up shop and set fire to the place on the way out.

Not to mention the stuff that Warner will bring out before the end of May. I won't be hard on you though, the concept of people hating you for giving them an HD DVD player is hilariously awesome.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget There will be blood and No country for old men. The two highest acclaimed movies of 07, will not be on blu ray. Assuming no other studios go blu.

PS, anyone with buyers remorse about their HD DVD player because of this, please post how much you are willing to part with it for, I am interested in picking up one for each room in my house, as I won't be abandoning them any time soon.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Don't forget There will be blood and No country for old men. The two highest acclaimed movies of 07, will not be on blu ray. Assuming no other studios go blu.

PS, anyone with buyers remorse about their HD DVD player because of this, please post how much you are willing to part with it for, I am interested in picking up one for each room in my house, as I won't be abandoning them any time soon.[/QUOTE]

Actually, No Country For Old Men is Miramax Films and Paramount elsewhere while There Will Be Blood is the opposite.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Don't forget There will be blood and No country for old men. The two highest acclaimed movies of 07, will not be on blu ray. Assuming no other studios go blu.[/quote]

No Country For Old Men is distributed in the US by Miramax (Disney). It will only be on BD. There will be blood is Paramount and Miramax, so your guess is as good as mine.

PS, anyone with buyers remorse about their HD DVD player because of this, please post how much you are willing to part with it for, I am interested in picking up one for each room in my house, as I won't be abandoning them any time soon.

Currently offering $50 for a 360 Add-on. PM me if interested.

EDIT: Thwarted by Sporadic again. Dagnabit.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']

Currently offering $50 for a 360 Add-on. PM me if interested.

EDIT: Thwarted by Sporadic again. Dagnabit.[/QUOTE]

I already have one, and only have one 360. But I'd love some standalones for cheap from any frightened consumers that think the war is over.

Dunno if anyone saw this, not sure how true it is, but it will be interesting to see how things pan out and what shady deals are made known in the coming days.

According to a trusted source that was close to the negotiations, Warner and FOX were working on a deal to go Exclusive to HD DVD as recent as last week. Our source tells us that Warner was only willing to go to HD DVD if FOX would go with them. Their thinking was if they just went to HD DVD by themselves, it would not end the format war. Early this week FOX was paid an undisclosed amount to remain exclusive to Blu-ray. With the FOX deal falling through, Warner had no choice but to accept the BDA’s $500 Million offer to go Blu-ray exclusive. We do wonder if FOX was just playing the HD DVD side, while having no intentions of ever switching.

I'm not saying I believe this, but it WOULD explain why the CES website had HD DVD down for a 3 hour press conference, while BDA was only 1. Also, Warner Brothers was slated to have a presentation for that press conference for HD DVD.

Something smells very rotten in Denmark. Sounds like some pretty heavy drama occurred in both camps in the past little while.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']not sure how true it is[/QUOTE]

Bullshit. I'm sure WB was paid a hefty sum, but half a billion? *any* speculation on what WB's financial take was is just that. Until I see a reliable source put a number out there (the way NY Times and others mentioned 150m to Paramount/Dreamworks), I call complete bullshit.

Half a billion. Heh.

And FOX? Chalk me up for another heh. Those cats ran scared with their tails between their legs when BD was cracked last year before full implementation of BD+ encryption (which, although cracked, yes, I know - is disc specific, so they managed to crack a single title). I don't see them going HD DVD exclusive until the bitter end, just like I would expect Universal to do in the opposite case.

That said, if you'd like to discuss this further, I'll be in the format war thread. I'm not going to bring that nonsense in this 'un.
 
I was thinking about Warner and the only thing I really want them to push out before leaving is The Shawshank Redemption.

It has been delayed for so long and it has been one of my top wants for awhile now.

[quote name='mykevermin']No Country For Old Men is distributed in the US by Miramax (Disney). It will only be on BD. There will be blood is Paramount and Miramax, so your guess is as good as mine.
[/QUOTE]

There Will Be Blood is Paramount in America so it will be HD-DVD exclusive.

I have my fingers crossed that Paramount will release No Country For Old Men in another country.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Bullshit. I'm sure WB was paid a hefty sum, but half a billion? *any* speculation on what WB's financial take was is just that. Until I see a reliable source put a number out there (the way NY Times and others mentioned 150m to Paramount/Dreamworks), I call complete bullshit.

Half a billion. Heh.

And FOX? Chalk me up for another heh. Those cats ran scared with their tails between their legs when BD was cracked last year before full implementation of BD+ encryption (which, although cracked, yes, I know - is disc specific, so they managed to crack a single title). I don't see them going HD DVD exclusive until the bitter end, just like I would expect Universal to do in the opposite case.

That said, if you'd like to discuss this further, I'll be in the format war thread. I'm not going to bring that nonsense in this 'un.[/quote]

Somehow I doubt Blu Ray had to buy off sony like Hd dvd did to get Paramount/universal.

Look at the disc sales chart every week and tell me who wins.

Then if you were Warner, what would you do? Pile your money into two formats and make little to no profit, or put your money and promotions into one format and make money?

Kind of an easy decision anyway you see it..
 
Well, my format of choice has won, and I am glad. On the other hand I invested quite a bit of $$$ in HD DVD as I was a very early adopter of that format, but oh well. Hopefully when Universal starts releasing on Blu-ray the will do a better job with the transfer having 20gb more of disc space to work with. I'd love to see Uni cataloge titles with better transfers on Blu than they had on HD DVD.

It's a good feeling to be able to buy movies knowing that very soon all titles will be available on one format, and I don't have to worry about it dying. Kudos to Warner for not milking it any longer, and knowing when to put a stop to this shitty war. Anyone want to buy Heroes Season 1 HD DVD unopened for $50 shipped? :)
 
If any of you want some of my HD DVD's at (relatively) cheap ass prices, I put some up on ebay (ending soon). I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this, but then again I don't know where it would fit on CAG. Still, I think some of you guys might be interested. A lot of it is stuff that is still sealed and most of the stuff that was opened was just to check to make sure it had no scratches during shipping. These are movies I didn't really like but bought for the novelty of HD:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ems&userid=ruinedx&ssPageName=STRK:MEFS:MESOI

Feel free to PM me with offers, too.

No chance of recovery for the HD DVD camp IMO. I'm still keeping the movies I like a lot though - no reason not to.


BTW, excellent efforts on the parts of all HD DVD fans here. It was worth a shot for technophiles everywhere, the opportunity to get a mass-media region-free format without intrusive DRM like BD+ heaped on top of it. Oh well.
 
[quote name='Ruined']If any of you want some of my HD DVD's at (relatively) cheap ass prices, I put some up on ebay (ending soon). I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this, but then again I don't know where it would fit on CAG. Still, I think some of you guys might be interested. A lot of it is stuff that is still sealed and most of the stuff that was opened was just to check to make sure it had no scratches during shipping. These are movies I didn't really like but bought for the novelty of HD:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ems&userid=ruinedx&ssPageName=STRK:MEFS:MESOI

Feel free to PM me with offers, too.

No chance of recovery for the HD DVD camp IMO. I'm still keeping the movies I like a lot though - no reason not to.


BTW, excellent efforts on the parts of all HD DVD fans here. It was worth a shot for technophiles everywhere, the opportunity to get a mass-media region-free format without intrusive DRM like BD+ heaped on top of it. Oh well.[/QUOTE]


dur, maybe the auction forum? ;) just busting your balls, nobody would see it there.

but I think you might be right about no chance for recovery. hell, they've canceled their CES event:
http://wesleytech.com/ces-hd-dvd-event-canceled-due-to-warner-announcement/483/
 
I think I might just jump ship also.

I have:

Toshiba HD A2 Player
360 Add On
Sopranos Season Six P1 + P2
Heroes S1
Matrix Trilogy
And about 10 HD DVD Movies.

I guess I'll pop it on Ebay or sell it here and then buy a PS3 which I really don't want to do :(
 
I'm not dumping anything. The only thing I have that would even be considered is Batman Begins, but I will still enjoy it.

I'm actually going to try and pick up more titles if the prices are right. Maybe I can even trade for some on here, possibly with multiple games. I'd love a Matrix Trilogy, Blade Runner, etc.
 
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