iPhone, iPad & iOS Discussion -- White iPhone on Sale 4/28

my brother in law, a big shot at Verizon, informed me that you will be able to use any phone on their network within the year. They'll also launch 4G across the country soon.
 
[quote name='lmz00']I wish they'd release a version that works with T-Mobile's 3G.[/QUOTE]

Wait a few weeks for a jailbreak / unlock and you'll be good to go.
 
[quote name='mang9432']Wait a few weeks for a jailbreak / unlock and you'll be good to go.[/QUOTE]

ATT's 3G spectrum is different than T-Mobiles so you can only use edge with T-Mobile on the iphone. There is nothing a jailbreak/unlock can do about that
 
[quote name='Malik112099']ATT's 3G spectrum is different than T-Mobiles so you can only use edge with T-Mobile on the iphone. There is nothing a jailbreak/unlock can do about that[/QUOTE]

ah yes, forgot about that. Well, yeah that sucks i suppose. Also doesn't the iPhone 4 use a micro-sim card or something different like that as well?
 
tbh a verizon iphone 4 isn't that interesting. If its an LTE iPhone on verizon, then thats worth mentioning. LTE + verizon will make me switch over from at&t.

Anyone know a site that has games/apps which have been made for the iphone 4? Atm the few games i have aren't updated for the higher resolution screen. I know plants vs zombies is/was going to update for the new screen.
 
[quote name='Wolve11']my brother in law, a big shot at Verizon, informed me that you will be able to use any phone on their network within the year. They'll also launch 4G across the country soon.[/QUOTE]

That's technically nigh impossible. They'd have to launch their own GSM network to accomplish this. Either you misunderstood, or your brother in law is dumb.
 
[quote name='mang9432']ah yes, forgot about that. Well, yeah that sucks i suppose. Also doesn't the iPhone 4 use a micro-sim card or something different like that as well?[/QUOTE]
A pair of scissors can take care of that.
 
[quote name='naiku']tbh a verizon iphone 4 isn't that interesting. If its an LTE iPhone on verizon, then thats worth mentioning. LTE + verizon will make me switch over from at&t.[/QUOTE]

well there's millions of Verizon users who want the iPhone and don't even know or care about LTE.
 
[quote name='naiku']tbh a verizon iphone 4 isn't that interesting. If its an LTE iPhone on verizon, then thats worth mentioning. LTE + verizon will make me switch over from at&t.

Anyone know a site that has games/apps which have been made for the iphone 4? Atm the few games i have aren't updated for the higher resolution screen. I know plants vs zombies is/was going to update for the new screen.[/QUOTE]


Real Racing looks amazing
 
I made this wallpaper for myself and I really like the way it turned out so I thought I'd share:

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I also got carried away and tried different colors:

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iphonemetalshelvespink.png

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LinkinPrime, do you have a version of the gray wallpaper that is 640x960 as that is the size of all the other iPhone 4 wallpapers that I have downloaded that take advantage of the new screen resolution.
 
No...I wasn't sure what the actual resolution should be. I just used one that I already had.

I'll work on a higher res one later for sure.
 
I wonder, though - if Apple added Verizon, would they be able to keep up with demand? I have my doubts. They're going to have to increase production capacity hugely. The other thing... if they expand to other carriers and now their user base doubles or triples, just imagine the firestorm Apple is going to have to deal with. When selling 1.7 million phones in 3 days, if even 1 percent were faulty, that's 17000 faulty iPhones and potentially quite a few youtube videos. Now imagine if they sold 4 million iPhones in 3 days. At the very least, somebody is going to have to take Jobs' email privileges away. Of course, I'm thinking they ought to do that now anyway! :)
 
If the iPhone goes to Verizon, I know I will be one of the millions who switch. I've had AT&T for years now and have always had issues with the service. Dropped calls, loss of 3G connection, etc.

Sadly I see AT&T throwing a ton of money at Apple to keep the iPhone exclusive for several more years. At this point in the game AT&T has nothing other than the iPhone to keep people from signing up with the competition.
 
[quote name='Sigma']
Sadly I see AT&T throwing a ton of money at Apple to keep the iPhone exclusive for several more years. At this point in the game AT&T has nothing other than the iPhone to keep people from signing up with the competition.[/QUOTE]

I don't see it happening personally.

They couldn't throw them enough money to offset what apple could make by selling phones on Verizon (and maybe other carriers) and getting tens of millions more people spending money in the app store worldwide.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']So, since iOS4.0, I apparently can't delete e-mails, only archive them. It's really annoying me.[/QUOTE]


Settings > Mail > Accounts > Archived Messages off

think that might put it back to normal, pre-os4? It is a little stupid that the trash can now just archives. I do enjoy the slide to archive option since i dont delete mail much. But the trash can should give u a slide menu to delete or archive.
 
So I went to BB to get some info on the Iphone.... guess they are really screwing new customers by giving us shitty data plans at high costs while everyone else is grandfathered in....SOB!!!
 
[quote name='naiku']Settings > Mail > Accounts > Archived Messages off

think that might put it back to normal, pre-os4? It is a little stupid that the trash can now just archives. I do enjoy the slide to archive option since i dont delete mail much. But the trash can should give u a slide menu to delete or archive.[/QUOTE]

It's just gmail I believe. All of my other email clients let me delete but gmail is now archive only.
 
Thanks for the wallpaper Linkin, I really like the blue one and already set it as background.

Best Buy called yesterday to come get my pre-ordered 32gb so I ran and grabbed it last night. I'm impressed and loving it so far versus my 3Gs. Screen is beautiful compared side by side it's really impressive.

Went today and finally set up my 15% AT&T discount through my employer so woohoo lol. I honestly don't see the fuss about the antenna, I rarely drop below 4 bars. Even inside a casino last night I had service while my Verizon and Cincinnati Bell friends had no service most of the time. I have 4 fingers on the side antenna plus my palm at all times txting with thumb. Never even wiggles like people claimed. Calls sound good, haven't tried FaceTime, my girl was to cheap to buy a 4 even though it's a near free upgrade selling your 3Gs..
 
I pray the iPhone extends beyond AT&T one day. If it happens I'll definitely be one of the first to get the fuck off of AT&T.
 
Apple released a statement that there is an issue with how the iPhone (all versions) report signal strength. They aren't making this up either, because this exact issue was noted in the review at anandtech.com (a very good read, incidentally). In short, the iPhone reports a 5 bar signal even when the signal is not actually that good, as well as when it is good. So you could show 5 bars, but it's a bad 5 bars, and then not much of the scale is allocated to 4, 3, 2 and 1 bars. Thus why you might see a dramatic drop in apparent signal strength. Essentially the scale is skewed toward the high end. They are going to release a software update for all iPhones that will make it report signal strength more accurately. Of course the haters have all come out claiming that this a ruse, but read the anandtech article and you can see it all spelled out for you, that this is exactly what the current iPhone firmware does. If anything, the way it currently reports bars is a ruse, and the update will change it to not being a ruse.
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/tech...e-lawsuit.html

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

It's good to know that you're easily amused.

FYI, the lawsuit in question was filed by 11 plaintiffs. 11 out of 1.7 million. I think you can do the math there. And why didn't they just return the phone? They've got 30 days. The 30 days aren't even remotely up yet!
 
Finally got to use a iPhone 4 in person yesterday and record a movie and take a few pictures. It's pretty good. I hope the unlocked Canadian versions go for less on eBay than ones from the UK currently do, otherwise I will have waited a month for nothing.
 
[quote name='naiku']Settings > Mail > Accounts > Archived Messages off

think that might put it back to normal, pre-os4? It is a little stupid that the trash can now just archives. I do enjoy the slide to archive option since i dont delete mail much. But the trash can should give u a slide menu to delete or archive.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I looked for it in the mail settings, but didn't think to click on the account.
 
My phone should be delivered by FedEx today.

What's the easiest way to sell my phone on eBay? Just remove the SIM card? And restore to factory settings?
 
[quote name='Rig']My phone should be delivered by FedEx today.

What's the easiest way to sell my phone on eBay? Just remove the SIM card? And restore to factory settings?[/QUOTE]

I've got the same question. I'll want to sell my 3GS once the iPhone 4 arrives.

There is a wipe feature in iOS. Open the Preferences app. Select: General -> Reset -> Erase All Content and Settings.

Obviously, don't do that until you're ready! :)

What do we do with the old sim card? The iPhone 4 uses a microsim. Is there any value in keeping the old one or should I just chop it up with a pair of scissors and throw it out?
 
[quote name='crunchewy']I've got the same question. I'll want to sell my 3GS once the iPhone 4 arrives.

There is a wipe feature in iOS. Open the Preferences app. Select: General -> Reset -> Erase All Content and Settings.

Obviously, don't do that until you're ready! :)

What do we do with the old sim card? The iPhone 4 uses a microsim. Is there any value in keeping the old one or should I just chop it up with a pair of scissors and throw it out?[/QUOTE]

when i sold my phone i just did the erase all settings, took about 30 minutes and it was at factory settings. i went through a few things to make sure there was nothing on there and it was clean.

as for my sim card, i just chopped it up and tossed it. figured the sim doesn me no good now.
 
[quote name='crunchewy']Apple released a statement that there is an issue with how the iPhone (all versions) report signal strength. They aren't making this up either, because this exact issue was noted in the review at anandtech.com (a very good read, incidentally). In short, the iPhone reports a 5 bar signal even when the signal is not actually that good, as well as when it is good. So you could show 5 bars, but it's a bad 5 bars, and then not much of the scale is allocated to 4, 3, 2 and 1 bars. Thus why you might see a dramatic drop in apparent signal strength. Essentially the scale is skewed toward the high end. They are going to release a software update for all iPhones that will make it report signal strength more accurately. Of course the haters have all come out claiming that this a ruse, but read the anandtech article and you can see it all spelled out for you, that this is exactly what the current iPhone firmware does. If anything, the way it currently reports bars is a ruse, and the update will change it to not being a ruse.[/QUOTE]

I guess it makes me a "hater" to call bullshit, but I'm having signal problems in places where I had no issues whatsoever with my 3G. Also, I have my phone set to show me the actual numerical signal strength (in dB) instead of just bars, and those numbers are running about the same as they did with the 3G -- I'm assuming it's not misreporting those. So sure, it may well have an issue with reporting the signal strength incorrectly. But that's certainly not the only problem.
 
[quote name='arcane93']I guess it makes me a "hater" to call bullshit, but I'm having signal problems in places where I had no issues whatsoever with my 3G. Also, I have my phone set to show me the actual numerical signal strength (in dB) instead of just bars, and those numbers are running about the same as they did with the 3G -- I'm assuming it's not misreporting those. So sure, it may well have an issue with reporting the signal strength incorrectly. But that's certainly not the only problem.[/QUOTE]

yeah. i still have very slow 3g at work. edge and 3g are virtually the same speed, sometimes edge is even better. i never had the problem with my iphone 3g. i tested my 3g at home last night, it was just fine, much much faster than edge. so for whatever reason the iphone 4 hates my work.
 
Even with the issue(s) the phone is having I am still more than glad I upgraded. My unlocked 3G sold for $192 on eBay. $8 for an upgrade to the 4 even if I run into a few problems? Hell yes.
 
[quote name='Malik112099']Even with the issue(s) the phone is having I am still more than glad I upgraded. My unlocked 3G sold for $192 on eBay. $8 for an upgrade to the 4 even if I run into a few problems? Hell yes.[/QUOTE]

It's the two year extension with AT&T that's really stopping me, in addition to the multiple little issues. Metro-ATL 3g service from them is beyond abysmal.
 
I'm fine with the 2 year extension since I figure I'll skip every other generation of phone. In 2 years whoever has the new phone I want I'll go to them.
 
[quote name='h3llbring3r']It's the two year extension with AT&T that's really stopping me, in addition to the multiple little issues. Metro-ATL 3g service from them is beyond abysmal.[/QUOTE]

I'm not really sure what's better, though. When I got my original iPhone 3G, it was only partially because I wanted an iPhone. My service on Sprint was so bad that I actually paid them the early termination fee to get off of it (because it was better than paying a monthly bill for an unusable phone). Otherwise, I'd have probably at least waited another eight months until that contract was up.

The only carrier that even has any real reputation for being better is Verizon, and I know people who aren't happy with them either. And they don't currently have any phones that I even vaguely want. If they get the iPhone eventually (or possibly a better Android option), I'll likely jump, but I'm not holding my breath on that one despite the ongoing rumor mill.
 
[quote name='Rig']My phone should be delivered by FedEx today.

What's the easiest way to sell my phone on eBay? Just remove the SIM card? And restore to factory settings?[/QUOTE]

Yes, make sure you restore to factory settings AND wipe private data. If your phone isn't a 3GS, it will take a while.
 
The main thing that I want fixed is the proximity sensor. I dont know how many times my cheek has changed the ringtone or tried to do facetime. You literally have to have it pressed against your ear for the screen to turn off. The antenna issue is easy to deal with but the proximity sensor thing is just plain annoying
 
[quote name='VipFREAK']Wait wait... So you have reception, it just drops the call? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA![/QUOTE]

Remember when you bitched about the price of Battlefield 1943 on the 360 saying it's cheaper on the PS3 and when everyone called you out on it you showed a picture of 1942 Joint Strike?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
did some death grip testing since everyone that sees my phone asks "oh what about the antenna" even nontech people are asking about it. I haven't dropped a call since i got it. I death grip my phone to show them how i can make the bars move...but the internet and calls haven't been effected by it for me. I did explain to people how the bumper case covers that part so it wont do this...but 30$ on ~2million phones is 60million for a plastic cover that fixes a problem that shouldn't be there. Thats why the law suits are happening.

Anyways here are the numbers.

Control:
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Deathgrip:
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gonna try again with a 5minute death grip to see if it effects the speed more.
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5minute death grip stats
DOWN - 1703kb/sec
UP - 210 kb/sec

...and now my hand hurts. :/
 
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I just did the same test as naiku and with the death grip I couldn't even get the bars to go down. Speed stayed around the same. Actually dropped by 3m/s on wifi using the deathgrip though.
 
[quote name='Malik112099']The main thing that I want fixed is the proximity sensor. I dont know how many times my cheek has changed the ringtone or tried to do facetime. You literally have to have it pressed against your ear for the screen to turn off. The antenna issue is easy to deal with but the proximity sensor thing is just plain annoying[/QUOTE]

Hm, I haven't had this problem at all. That's the weirdest thing about all of these issues that people are having -- they don't seem to be at all consistent from one person/phone to another.

Maybe a restore would fix it? Shouldn't have to do that with a new phone, but if all else fails it might be worth a try.
 
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