Jack Brisco Memorial Wrestling Thread

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[quote name='BoSoxFan900']This is butt fuck stupid. I just feel stupid for even watching this shit.[/QUOTE]

I'm so glad ice dancing is on with elevator music-ized Linkin Park.
 
This is about the time when all of our girlfriends walk into the room, shake their head, and walk away.

Thank god for The Miz.
 
[quote name='Halo05']I was actually referring to the punt as his, "oh shit Orton just went berserk and tried to legitimately hurt someone" finish.

I miss his feud against Triple H from... like 16 months ago I think, the one where he destroyed Steph. He was more vicious back then while also realizing that he probably couldn't go toe to toe with Triple H. I don't know how evil you can be on a PG rated show.[/QUOTE]

I'll give you that feud. It was built very, very well (save for the Orton/Triple H bit that took place in Orton's home, I think it was). The problem with that feud is that the match they had at WM25 didn't fit the feel of the feud at all. The Jake Roberts/Rick Rude feud where Rude had Robert's wife's face airbrushed on those tights was what they should have done in match style - a brawl, an out of control and jealous Roberts, who wasn't concerned with a proper wrestling match and often got DQ'ed because his focus was on beating Rude within an inch of his life - *that* made sense. I know WWE probably reasoned that Triple H valued his title and his wife equally (and that's probably true, though I'd give a slight nod to the title), so the conflict was in Triple H valuing his title by following the rules of the match (if he were DQ'ed Orton would win the belt) - but that stip harmed the match execution far too much.

EDIT: ZOMG TAN LINEN SUIT!
 
Yeah, it was ridiculous that all of that buildup led to a regular match. On top of that Triple H used the hammer in his entrance and dropped it before getting in the ring to have a wrestling match with the guy who hit his wife.
 
Does Taker normally wear that full garb or did he have to revert back to that because his jacket got nice and toasty last night?
 
Wendy Richter in the HOF is a surprise. Wasn't there a ton of heat on her back in the day? Sort of hope they can get Cyndi Lauper to induct her.
 
[quote name='jp0213']Does Taker normally wear that full garb or did he have to revert back to that because his jacket got nice and toasty last night?[/QUOTE]

He has worn that fairly recently, but usually does wear the coat that got destroyed.
 
[quote name='JJSP']Wendy Richter in the HOF is a surprise. Wasn't there a ton of heat on her back in the day? Sort of hope they can get Cyndi Lauper to induct her.[/QUOTE]

Piper's gonna show up disguised as the Spider Lady and beat her to a pulp in her old age.
 
Christ, Orton and DiBiase next week on Raw? I know we've been building to it for some time and it was to be expected eventually, but it wouldn't kill anyone to stretch it out.
 
Goddamn what an awesome show. They built up 'Mania nearly perfectly. The Taker-HBK video package was one of the best ones they've done since the initial Bret-Vince ones, and their promo was even better. There was a ton of tension, and not even the idiotic "WHAT!?" chants could ruin it, although HBK did stumble over his words at times. I'll go ahead and just blame the fans for that since Shawn was perfect at everything else here. Although I can't blame them for that yellow goop on Taker's face unless someone threw mustard at him. The Streak vs. The Career stip is going to be unreal - this could easily break WM 23's record as the most-bought 'Mania of all-time.

Richter going into the HoF is a little surprising given her exit from the company 20 years ago, but considering they wanted her for the diva deal last year, I guess it shouldn't be. Good for her, but it was ridiculous how much credit they gave her for the '80s wrestling boom. I did love seeing the PWI cover with her on it though - I was curious about seeing it after hearing about it on an Observer radio show recently, and it was funny to see WWE go to the trouble of Photoshopping Hogan's name off of it.

Match-wise, the tag title match was fine, but I loved Show vs. THE BULL more, and Christian-Carlito was very good, although I'm going to miss Christian having 15 minute matches every week on TV. As long as he's able to carve out a niche for himself as U.S. champ, I'll be happy. Batista-Cena was a fine way to actually have the match and do a screwy ending in a way that made sense - Batista let Cena win because he wants him at Mania...in the weakened state he left him in after beating the shit out of him tonight. I liked that they also setup a way for Sheamus to be seen as a main event-level guy without being on the show, and explained the absence of both himself and HHH on the show with injuries from the Chamber show which gave them time to devote to building up 'Mania and make the Chamber match seem more devastating.

Jericho's promo was good, but Edge's announcement was a bit too quick and wasn't really brought up again later. Sure, it's the SD title match being announced on Raw, but a bigger deal should have made for it. Vince saying that he's invited Bret to come back so he can have a proper farewell involving him being taken to the arena in an ambulance, giving him a wheelchair to get down to the ring, and then using a hydraulic lift to get into it was absolutely perfect. What a complete dick - I can't wait to see Bret destroy him at 'Mania.

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The best guest host since Bob Barker - Jewel's cleavage -








Quotes -
Cole - Orton and Kofi have had an amazing rivalry over the past…number of months!
Cole - Orton says he wants to be the leader for Legacy that he says he hasn’t been for the past number of months!
HBK - I am not going to take up a lot of time because my explanation for my actions last night isn’t all that complicated. I did what I had to do - I did what I needed to do. Now I understand that what I’ve done isn’t popular with many of you, but that is something I have to live with. I’ve heard the rumors of the Undertaker being here tonight, and I also understand that for every action, there must be a reaction. With regard to the Undertaker, I’m not just hoping for a reaction - I’M COUNTING ON IT! Because there is no one…(Taker’s bell tolls)
Taker - You wanted my attention, now you have it!
HBK - Last year, people said we had the greatest match in WrestleMania history. Some said it was the greatest match ever, and as flattering as that is, you have to understand - I wrestled a perfect match. A nearly perfect match. I made ONE MISTAKE, ONE MISTAKE…and it cost me everything. You better than anyone should know that it’s something I can’t live with - I asked you, I BEGGED YOU for a rematch, but you refused. You ignored me! You didn’t leave me any choice, and that’s why I cost you the world heavyweight championship. I know you’re angry at me, and as you stand there, you can’t wait to get your hands on me. And that’s okay. You want your revenge? Face me at WrestleMania and get your revenge!
Taker - YOU’RE ON - I ACCEPT! On one condition - this year, you have to put up something as well. YOUR SOUL! This year, if you defeat me, you end the streak. But if I beat, YOUR CAREER IS OVER! That’s it Shawn - the streak vs. your career.
HBK - YOU DON’T GET IT! IF I CAN’T BEAT YOU AT WRESTLEMANIA, I HAVE NO CAREER!
YOU’RE ON!
Heath - Christian and Heath Slater - Captain Charisma and the One Man Rock Band - NXT and the WWE Universe - I’M GONNA BLOW YOUR MIND!
Tarver - Being the son of a preacher and a prize fighter - sometimes I feel like I have a devil on the shoulder and a devil on the other. In 1.9 seconds, I’ll have you eating through a straw.
Ty - YOU GUYS LIKE BULL RIDING!? (fans react mildly)
King - I don’t think Lelly knows much about bulls - she bought a brown cow to get chocolate milk!
Miz - REALLY? A DIVAS PBR? THAT’S WHAT THIS SHOW HAS DEVOLED TO? What’s next? I yodeling competition!?
Ty - SHE’S A GOOD YODELER!
Miz - THIS SHOW REVOLVES AROUND THE UNIFIED TAG CHAMPS, NOT BULL RIDING!
Show - ANYBODY CAN DO THAT!?
Ty - I BET YOU CAN’T DO IT AS WELL AS THE GIRLS DID IT!? There’s nothing standing between you but fear and atmosphere!
Show - YOU’RE JUST RUDE!
Miz - SHOW THAT BULL WHO’S BOSS!
Miz - NO? THAT WASN’T FAIR - THAT BULL WAS GOING WAY FASTER THAN WHEN THE DIVAS WERE RIDING IT!
Ty - I’ll tell ya what fair is - it’s got a ferris wheel and cotton candy!
Miz - Show, let’s go. Let’s go Show!
(to the Bull)Show - YOU THINK I’M AFRAID OF YOU!?
Jewel - THAT WAS STUFFED ANIMAL CRUELTY!
Cole - Miz had some INTERESTING THINGS TO SAY about Daniel Bryan on his WWE Universe blog!
Cole - BIG SHOW WITH A SPEAR! THAT’S LIKE BEING HIT BY A 500 POUND TRUCK!
Cole - Daniel Bryan’s been wrestling all over the world for 10 years. Miz said on his WWE blow that Daniel was bland like his accountant!
King - Well, sometimes the truth hurts. He’s being mentored by one of the best….
Cole - Egos?
King - EXACTLY!
Cole - I LOVE JEWEL’S MUSIC!
Vince - Just for the record Bret, I really was looking forward to the competition. And then you had this accident last week, and I would like to state that I had nothing to do with that accident. Bret, you know that. Nonetheless, I have enjoyed the humility you’ve endured. I’d like to invite you to Raw next week - I’ll provide you with an ambulance to get you to the arena, a wheelchair to get you to the ring, and a hydraulic lift to put you into it so you can say your proper farewell!
 
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[quote name='mykevermin']That women's match was a fucking abortion. No timing, horrible looking contact, no story, no flow - it looked like the referee (Goose Mahoney) was fucking up, too.

I'm sure Jaythegamefan will praise the action for the evening, saying there was a great mix of action and drama tonight.

Wrestling has been bad enough from a *cough*"drama"*cough* stand point for years - the South Park episode a few months back has made it laughable in terms of how on point Parker and Stone were in their criticism.

South Park has done for WWE what "Blades of Glory" has done for olympic figure skating. Both events adhere almost entirely to the stereotypes mocked in those shows.[/QUOTE]

i dont think there is ever an episode he hated
 
Jewel has what? C cups???? That's nothing to write home about!
 
integral, clearly you've missed 90% of my Impact reviews over the past few years, and quite a few Raw ones from '09 when the show was regularly the second-worst show of the week next to Impact. Also, Abyss's character has been retarded for a long time now - it isn't some recent deal caused by Hogan and Bischoff taking over.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']integral, clearly you've missed 90% of my Impact reviews over the past few years...[/QUOTE]
"This week's show was okay/better than usual; now here are some pictures of chicks bending over the ring ropes."
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']"This week's show was okay/better than usual; now here are some pictures of chicks bending over the ring ropes."[/QUOTE]
And Mike Tenay making stupid faces.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']"...now here are some pictures of chicks bending over the ring ropes."[/QUOTE]

My favorite part of the review!
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']integral, clearly you've missed 90% of my Impact reviews over the past few years, and quite a few Raw ones from '09 when the show was regularly the second-worst show of the week next to Impact. Also, Abyss's character has been retarded for a long time now - it isn't some recent deal caused by Hogan and Bischoff taking over.[/QUOTE]

I guess so. I am still new to this thread..so i guess ive been missing out.

I feel like it was all Russo's doing. Once Mitchell was gone, there was nothing to cover up his bad acting. Abyss at this point is a total loss and they need him to turn heel and give him that monster make up again. Thats the only time abyss was ever enjoyable.
 
So now we know the top matches for Wrestlemania. Three quality singles matches that (so far) don't have any weird stipulations attached to them outside of the streak/career match.

Cena vs. Batista
Edge vs. Jericho
Undertaker vs. HBK
Money In The Bank (Christian qualified)

It's still really early, but how does everyone book the rest of the card?

I've got the following:
HHH vs Sheamus
Orton vs DiBiase vs Rhodes
Hart vs McMahon, no DQ
Punk vs Mysterio, hair vs mask
MITB: Christian, Zeke, Ziggler, Morrison, Truth, Benjamin, Regal, Finlay
Kane vs McIntyre

I'd like to see a tag-title gauntlet match of sorts, cause it's a shame to not see Miz on the PPV after how great he's been recently. I figure Hart Dynasty, Cryme Tyme, MVP/Henry, and MizShow.

I'm sure I'm way off on the MITB. I'd like to see maybe Ryder somewhere too but it's unlikely.
 
And here's my card:

Shawn vs UT
Batista vs Cena
Edge vs Jericho
MVP vs Miz
McIntire vs ______(I don't really watch SD too much honestly)
MITB: CM Punk, Christian, Zeke, Shelton, Morrison, and Mysterio
Vince vs Bret - Street Fight

And probably one of those diva vs diva matches...
 
[quote name='strongpimphand']*Waits for IRS to be inducted into the HOF...[/QUOTE]

What you need to understand is that the WWE Hall of Fame is a lot like the Virtual Console. You've got the jewels from the past (Million Dollar Man/Starfox 64), your triple-A stuff (Bret Hart, The Rock/Ocarina of Time, Super Mario Bros. 3), your occasional international item (Antonio Inoki/Sin & Punishment), and the stuff people want, but can't have due to legal reasons (Macho Man/Earthbound).
 
IRS wouldn't be the worst HOF inductee - he was a perfectly fine worker for many years, a great mid-card utility guy in the U.S. and Japan, and currently works for WWE as a producer. He's far more deserving than Koko B. Ware, whose post-Memphis work was largely forgettable, or especially James Dudley, who got in for being Vince Sr.'s driver.

TNA-related comedy from the latest F4W newsletter -
The Southpeak Interactive financials state that the amount spent on intellectual property licenses from July 1, 2009 through December 31, 2009 was $0, meaning it appears they acquired the license for the doomed TNA game for free.
Click to expand...
 
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I'm just saying....they could have made this a 3-4 person induction process to where it could be drawn out for years upon years...Especially a 3 person induction

Doing 5 like the NFL does makes this a crappy process because unlike the NFL, there has NEVER been a person that everyone goes "?????? WORD?!?!?! HE GOT IN OVER ______???? HE SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN IN THE RUNNING!!"

Ya know? It's usually someone that should have been in such a hall finally getting in and making someone else wait. I wouldn't choose this Wendi person or Koko B Ware as HOFers. I guess this might be Vince's way of publicly making up to Wendi though since you know he's making up to Bret too.


And as a sidenote, if I were that Wendi person, I'd trash the shit out of Moolah and everyone else including Vince. Its not like she'll matter to anyone my age or younger after she does! And unlike Vince does the hilarious thing and reverse induct her.....

....or screw her before she gets inducted!
 
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I know he's a super-jobber right now, but I'd like to see Bourne in the MitB match. Unlikely, but I wouldn't be surprised as he's a good fit for it.
 
[quote name='JJSP']

It's still really early, but how does everyone book the rest of the card?

[/QUOTE]

As I posted earlier, before any matches were announced on Raw:

World Heavyweight Championship: Chris Jericho vs. Edge
WWE Championship: Batista vs. John Cena
Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
Triple H vs. Sheamus
Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon
Randy Orton vs. Ted DiBiase
Money in the Bank ladder match: Kofi Kingston vs. John Morrison vs. R-Truth vs. Drew McIntyre vs. CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio vs. The Miz vs. Christian
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']What you need to understand is that the WWE Hall of Fame is a lot like the Virtual Console. You've got the jewels from the past (Million Dollar Man/Starfox 64), your triple-A stuff (Bret Hart, The Rock/Ocarina of Time, Super Mario Bros. 3), your occasional international item (Antonio Inoki/Sin & Punishment), and the stuff people want, but can't have due to legal reasons (Macho Man/Earthbound).[/QUOTE]

:applause:
 
I was just watching the first Hell In A Cell match from 1997 featuring Taker and HBK. It is amazing what 13 years in the wrestling business will do in terms of looks. Both Taker and HBK look amazingly grizzled as compared to 1997.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']He's far more deserving than Koko B. Ware, whose post-Memphis work was largely forgettable[/QUOTE]

ffffffffffffffff you

Koko is hands down the coolest wrestler I have ever met.
 
By all accounts he's a wonderful person - but that alone doesn't mean he deserves to be in WWE's hall of fame. Bobby Eaton's a great guy too, but that alone doesn't warrant an HoF induction - being one half of two incarnations of one of the best teams ever sure does though.
 
Y'all actually going to watch NXT tonight, or wait for a review and follow up on Hulu if it sounds alright?

I'm contemplating the latter.
 
I think Midnight Express and The Freebirds deserve a place in the HOF, a lot more than some of the other people that have been inducted.


I'll watch NXT, Tuesday sucks for TV anyways.
 
I'll watch NXT tonight, there's nothing else on that I watch anyway. I expect a clusterfuck. It'll be awesome to see Bryan Danielson, and then it'll be awesome to see him jobbing to Yoshi Tatsu on Superstars in six months.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']By all accounts he's a wonderful person - but that alone doesn't mean he deserves to be in WWE's hall of fame. [/QUOTE]

I feel the same way about Owen Hart. I know a lot of people want him in, but let's face it, before his death he was a career mid-carder and I don't think his career alone is worthy of Hall of Fame status. Doesn't mean he wasn't loved an respected, but that doesn't mean he is HOF worthy. Same with Koko.
 
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