Kickstarter: Ouya Video Game Console (Coming to Target, Amazon, GameStop, Best Buy)

[quote name='MSI Magus']Part of me feels I should pull out and play it safe but a big part of me also feels that this is an opportunity to put my money where my mouth is and as a consumer say something. I am not delusional and believe that it is likely this is a revolution, but for every million this project raises the better the chance the next gen of games wont run us $600 for the console and $80 for the games.[/QUOTE]

Right, that's more or less what's keeping me in this. Plus it's easier for me, if I root it and get it to run emulation, then tracking down the old games I want to play for ridiculous prices and have to have each of the consoles hooked up.

Don't get me wrong, I'll still buy the physical copies to have and enjoy, but I won't feel as tied down to have 3-4 other systems all hooked up at once.

Plus just the idea of getting Steam to work on it sounds really cool.
 
[quote name='tuffguycore']Won't lie, I'm considering it since I'm not sure I have 100 bucks to just throw on this right now, but I feel like it would be kind of shitty to pull out of this at this point.[/QUOTE]
Its not like they post your name in the public for everyone to see that you backed out. If your not feeling that its worth it, you will just be disappointed further down the road when you can't back out. They already have enough money to make this console a reality.
 
Bottom line for me is that for $100 I can turn it into the best console emulator available and in my mind won't be out a single penny... Even if it flops on the consumer end.
 
[quote name='htz']Its not like they post your name in the public for everyone to see that you backed out. If your not feeling that its worth it, you will just be disappointed further down the road when you can't back out. They already have enough money to make this console a reality.[/QUOTE]

Do they though? This supposedly gives them plenty to make a prototype, actually launching a console and putting it in stores costs way more than a few million. I really question this seemingly arbitrary goal, what is it based on in the first place? A few million for investment in something like this is chump change. Otherwise we'd probably have a lot more consoles than just the big three.
 
[quote name='tuffguycore']Plus just the idea of getting Steam to work on it sounds really cool.[/QUOTE]

I'd sooner put OnLive on this than Steam (I'm assuming you're talking rooting it -> installing Linux -> installing Steam for Linux). 1GB ram puts it at the minimum system requirement for many games....and well below the minimum for others (Bastion, for example, requires 2 GB). The internal flash storage is only 8GB too. Even indie games seem to start in the 150-200 MB range, with many additional needing over 1GB. Depending on how easy it is to expand the memory/flash storage, may or may not be worth it.

In terms of whether to back out or not...I see Kickstarter as a gamble. You lock your money in once the funding period is over, and can't get it back. If the specs get slashed or reviews come out unanimously calling it crap, you're screwed.

As far as "sending a message" is concerned...the real message gets sent whenever console makers/developers start losing money because of this.
 
For those with an Android 4.0 device, are there any existing emulators for S/NES, N64, GB/C/A, Genesis? In any case, I'm thinking I can already play all the emulators I want on my computer or my PSP, why pay for a new way to do old thing?

At this point, I am worried that the specs of the OUYA doesn't seem that great especially with only 1Gb RAM. It is true that I don't care too much about graphics but then again, would the Ouya really going to have titles that would not be just as well ported to other consoles that I already have (Xbox live)?

I'd rather wait a year and pay a little more. I worried that the launch machine we'd get will very quickly be replaced by something that is more meaningful in the long run.. think iPAD#..

The more I think, the more I lean towards pulling out...
 
I stand by the idea I stated earlier that if you have faith in the project and are willing to watch your money disappear with no return, then backing is fine. It's your money, do what you want with it, right?

At the same time...three million dollars. Damn. How many people could be living in real homes eating real food instead of panhandling on the street if that had gone to an actual charity instead of an imaginary video game console? Blows my mind to think about it.
 
[quote name='Asgardian']
The more I think, the more I lean towards pulling out...[/QUOTE]

This is a rule for life right there...sorry I know I know.
 
[quote name='Asgardian']For those with an Android 4.0 device, are there any existing emulators for S/NES, N64, GB/C/A, Genesis?[/QUOTE]

Do all the "-oid" emulators work on Android 4? I assume they do but I haven't been able to test, I'm stuck on 2.2.2 for the forseeable future (fuck you, Metro PCS). SNesoid, Genesoid, NESoid, GBAoid, etc. They have performed well on my very average phone so I'd assume they'd work well on this console.
 
[quote name='Schildkrote']At the same time...three million dollars. Damn. How many people could be living in real homes eating real food instead of panhandling on the street if that had gone to an actual charity instead of an imaginary video game console? Blows my mind to think about it.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. People are far too concerned with stuff that in the grand scheme of things doesn't really mean much of anything.

They are proud as peacocks because they have the biggest most obnoxious HDtv and the most expensive car, when the bare minimum would have sufficed.
 
[quote name='Schildkrote']I stand by the idea I stated earlier that if you have faith in the project and are willing to watch your money disappear with no return, then backing is fine. It's your money, do what you want with it, right?

At the same time...three million dollars. Damn. How many people could be living in real homes eating real food instead of panhandling on the street if that had gone to an actual charity instead of an imaginary video game console? Blows my mind to think about it.[/QUOTE]

Shrike as long as we are banning trolling posters can we add this guy to the list ;) Even if he isnt trolling for the sake of trolling he is shitting on everyone for nothing other then personal amusement. Pretty damned similar.
 
[quote name='Schildkrote']
At the same time...three million dollars. Damn. How many people could be living in real homes eating real food instead of panhandling on the street if that had gone to an actual charity instead of an imaginary video game console? Blows my mind to think about it.[/QUOTE]

To answer your question - probably about 0. You simplify an overly complex problem with your mind blowing.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Exactly. People are far too concerned with stuff that in the grand scheme of things doesn't really mean much of anything.

They are proud as peacocks because they have the biggest most obnoxious HDtv and the most expensive car, when the bare minimum would have sufficed.[/QUOTE]

I love my big TV. Who wants to live the bare minimum? I work hard, so I'll take some upgrades in life.

It's all personal perspective regardless.
 
[quote name='sevendayrevolution']I love my big TV. Who wants to live the bare minimum? I work hard, so I'll take some upgrades in life.

It's all personal perspective regardless.[/QUOTE]
True.
 
$99 backers are slowing down in day 2 as compared to day 1. Nice to see that the elite developer special $1339 backers are increasing though. I may not be backing this project but I sure will be keeping an eye on its development.

My money will go into game deals for now.
 
[quote name='tuffguycore']Won't lie, I'm considering it since I'm not sure I have 100 bucks to just throw on this right now, but I feel like it would be kind of shitty to pull out of this at this point.[/QUOTE]
Don't feel shitty about pulling support; they've got plenty of cash coming their way. Regardless, you don't need to justify pulling support, because it's your money, use it when you need it.

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My son and I read this thread last night when they were at $1.5M, thought about it, then went to bed.

I'm having my coffee this morning and my wife says to me, "Have you gotten into this OuYa thing yet?". I almost spit out my first sip. She read about it in the Christian Science Monitor this morning where there's a full write up about it. This is a woman who's played 2 games with me for the entire 18 years I've been married to her and she asks me about a videogame console first thing in the morning? The momentum must just be getting started on this thing.

I just looked at the Kickstarter page and it's DOUBLE what is was the same time last night. I promptly ordered myself $99 worth of tweakness bliss for my 50" HDTV. Screw paying $60 for new release games. Ive been burned too many times. Stop fooling yourselves that these games are the shiznit because they're on a Sony or an Xbox. They're the same games you've been overpaying for - for almost 2 decades.

As a developer, it makes sense to market directly to the consumer. No publisher, no licenser, no distributor, no retailer, no physical product - only $$$. The ability to take on smaller projects, to take more risks, and to make more games. I'm not seeing a downside here, except being left with a portable $99 box I can hook up to every TV in my house and play entire libraries of emulated games. Having AAA titles released for it is like a bonus, fringe benefit.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']My son and I read this thread last night when they were at $1.5M, thought about it, then went to bed.

I'm having my coffee this morning and my wife says to me, "Have you gotten into this OuYa thing yet?". I almost spit out my first sip. She read about it in the Christian Science Monitor this morning where there's a full write up about it. This is a woman who's played 2 games with me for the entire 18 years I've been married to her and she asks me about a videogame console first thing in the morning? The momentum must just be getting started on this thing.

I just looked at the Kickstarter page and it's DOUBLE what is was the same time last night. I promptly ordered myself $99 worth of tweakness bliss for my 50" HDTV. Screw paying $60 for new release games. Ive been burned too many times. Stop fooling yourselves that these games are the shiznit because they're on a Sony or an Xbox. They're the same games you've been overpaying for - for almost 2 decades.

As a developer, it makes sense to market directly to the consumer. No publisher, no licenser, no distributor, no retailer, no physical product - only $$$. The ability to take on smaller projects, to take more risks, and to make more games. I'm not seeing a downside here, except being left with a portable $99 box I can hook up to every TV in my house and play entire libraries of emulated games. Having AAA titles released for it is like a bonus, fringe benefit.[/QUOTE]
This is CAG. What the fuck are you doing buying games for 60$?

The downside? Have you looked at the specs? Its a PSP. You know that the PSP comes with an adapter that puts the screen on your TV? It also looks like complete ass because when you see those graphics blown up you see every jagged edge, every blurry texture, every half assed low poly model.

Smaller projects? Prepare for as much shovelware as every kid can throw at it.

Do you own a computer? You can already hook up a box to your TV and play entire libraries of emulated games.
 
[quote name='Schildkrote']At the same time...three million dollars. Damn. How many people could be living in real homes eating real food instead of panhandling on the street if that had gone to an actual charity instead of an imaginary video game console? Blows my mind to think about it.[/QUOTE]

It shouldn't - people panhandling is not even remotely an issue of having vs. not having money. You can bet your butt they have a chance every day to get a free meal and a place to sleep, yet they chose not to. Consider that.

Truth is, that $3 million WILL feed and house many people - the hardware and software creators and developers, people who work for the manufacturing company and their families, and on and on. They could could give it all up, but they don't. Consider that, too.
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']This is CAG. What the fuck are you doing buying games for 60$?

The downside? Have you looked at the specs? Its a PSP. You know that the PSP comes with an adapter that puts the screen on your TV? It also looks like complete ass because when you see those graphics blown up you see every jagged edge, every blurry texture, every half assed low poly model.

Smaller projects? Prepare for as much shovelware as every kid can throw at it.

Do you own a computer? You can already hook up a box to your TV and play entire libraries of emulated games.[/QUOTE]

A PSP?!?! Please tell me where I can get a PSP with a Tegra 3 and 1gb of ram for $100. I'm pretty positive this thing blows away the Vita let alone the PSP.
 
[quote name='majorscud']A PSP?!?! Please tell me where I can get a PSP with a Tegra 3 and 1gb of ram for $100. I'm pretty positive this thing blows away the Vita let alone the PSP.[/QUOTE]

in terms of power, The Vita wins I think(or ties?) but the ouya has more ram. For sheer value? yes it wins! I still think I'm going to wait and buy the final product for the same price. Its not that I don't think they will release it, I just think that it will be in the air on how the games turn out. Will we be seeing the EA mobile quality games, And stuff like Shadowgun and fieldrunners P v Z? or will we be seeing a lot of Gameloft and Zynga type stuff with the occasional indie hit??

If I have to use the touch screen for most the games because no one is making direct ports for the Ouya, it will be pointless for me.

Just becuase its possible, doesnt mean it will happen
EDIT: just watched the video and closer to buying in.
 
Many companies already make Android devices without crowdfunding...

I don't understand this project. I already have a Tegra 3 Android tablet with HDMI out and Xbox 360 wired controller support. This thing they are soliciting funding for already exists.
 
It costs more, but Tegra 3 devices have come down in price. See the Nexus Tablet for $200.

The point is, I'm already playing Madfinger Games' Shadowgun on my television with an Xbox 360 controller. You don't need crowdfunding to get the price of a product down. Companies already do that through competition. By the time this thing is out, Tegra 3 devices that do the exact same thing will probably be $100 everywhere. In January the Transformer Prime was $500. Nexus tablet just came out at $200 (though there are other differences that get the price down further).
 
[quote name='specialist']I don't think there'll be much cheating in Farmville or Maple Story.[/QUOTE]

Those won't be the kinds of games people buy this for. Seriously, how will they combat piracy and cheaters with this completely open console meant to be hacked?
 
[quote name='J7.']Those won't be the kinds of games people buy this for. Seriously, how will they combat piracy and cheaters with this completely open console meant to be hacked?[/QUOTE]

Ouya has it's own proprietary App store that all apps that you want to use must be purchased from. Can't use apps you already own through Google Play or Amazon. While the hardware itself is open, meant to be hacked, free to root, the software seems more closed than conventional Android software.
 
They are probably working their butts off right now and getting thousands of emails, tweets, and phone calls, but please throw us a bone. I've already seen two independent forums for OUYA that aren't official. If they would answer some questions, I would be more satisfied and secure in giving them money.
 
This will undoubtedly be the Phantom: Part 2 with the exception of it actually seeing a release. It's a nice, niche toy for a few months, then, poof, it'll vanish into thin air.

"Oh hey, Lars, what's this?"
"Oh, nothing. Just something I thought was neat at the time."

What the console aims to do is respectable, though, but let's take off the rose-tinted glasses.
 
[quote name='Chase']This will undoubtedly be the Phantom: Part 2 with the exception of it actually seeing a release. It's a nice, niche toy for a few months, then, poof, it'll vanish into thin air.

"Oh hey, Lars, what's this?"
"Oh, nothing. Just something I thought was neat at the time."

What the console aims to do is respectable, though, but let's take off the rose-tinted glasses.[/QUOTE]

What you mean to say is lets all think exactly like you do.
 
They tweeted me earlier and told me to check the main page.

My Randy Savage joke is on the front page of the testimonials now lol. Oooh Yeah!!! @sodoubleoggood
 
[quote name='gmoneyftw']They tweeted me earlier and told me to check the main page.

My Randy Savage joke is on the front page of the testimonials now lol. Oooh Yeah!!! @sodoubleoggood[/QUOTE]
@fourzerotwo... A new console, for $99, that is designed around a free-to-play open source model. I support everything about @playouya

Engadget... “Gamers are craving something different, and if the Ouya is a success, it could usher us into a new golden age of gaming...”

@Daddygamer... @playouya you're becoming the people's console. PC World... “Is the $99 OUYA the Video Game Console for the 99 Percent?”
@SoDoubleOGGood... What would Macho Man Randy Savage's favorite gaming console be? (if he were still alive) ‪#OUYA‬ oooh yeah!
Gamasutra... “People have been clinging to the same game consoles for several years, and are wanting something different.”
Cyathem from Reddit... “I’ve wasted $100 on stupid things. This actually looks cool.”
And more... Kotaku! The Guardian! Joystiq! Forbes! GameSpot! BusinessWeek! The Verge! Wired! IGN! The New York Times! Time!
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Wow they are over $4 million dollars in 2 days, and they have the media talking about them everywhere right now.
 
Kind of feel like a jerk, but once I really thought about it, I realized that I want a little more information on the system, like even a few games to entice me before I jump all the way in. I guess I shouldn't have been so impulsive, but I'm sure they'll be fine without my $99.00
 
[quote name='Saix_XIII']Good read that I agree with on all parts.[/QUOTE]

I didn't even get through the whole thing and realized that it was totally dead on. No matter how easy it will be for emulation, I'm sure I can find something else that would also be able to do it for similar pricing that's actually tangable(Like finding an Xbox and modding that.)
 
[quote name='Saix_XIII']Good read that I agree with on all parts.[/QUOTE]
Same here, gave the article a read and I agree mostly on it. I still have a whole month to decide if this is worth it though. Its only been 2 days, hope they will be able to give more info before the kickstarter ends.
 
I liked the article and it made some good points though I have to disagree with the Indie developer. If you have a closed platform like a console and have something like the Ouya the higher percentage and a platform they can optimize helps them compete graphicswise more favorably with a bigger company. This is the better choice as opposed to them looking at ensuring compatibility across the general PC platform.
All this being said, for all of you so excited, where the fuck were you in pledging money to see the Indrema get out instead? Yeah that's what I thought. That had a better model as far as I'm concerned since you could get games on physical media as well.
edit: I wouldn't be surprised if most of the money being pledged here was used by Kickstarter to fund the development costs of "Shadowrun Returns".
 
I'm a bit concerned about their games survey. Less than half the games could be considered indie games, while the others are mostly AAA titles from major publishers. I don't mind major publishers (for the most part), but I thought the emphasis here was on indie, hacking and retro gaming? Besides that, and pardon the skepticism, but why are Skyrim and similar system-intensive games listed as suggested games to bring to OUYA? Those would be great goals, but how feasible is it given current system specs?

I admire their enthusiasm, but worry about the hype. Also, the standard "GET AN OUYA" level doesn't have any special kickstarter bonus, and is stated to cost the same as retail... I might have to reduce my pledge and see what actually comes of this. If it fails, I'll save $90 and put it toward a custom-built media center.
 
[quote name='Guerrilla']I'm a bit concerned about their games survey. Less than half the games could be considered indie games, while the others are mostly AAA titles from major publishers. I don't mind major publishers (for the most part), but I thought the emphasis here was on indie, hacking and retro gaming? Besides that, and pardon the skepticism, but why are Skyrim and similar system-intensive games listed as suggested games to bring to OUYA? Those would be great goals, but how feasible is it given current system specs?

I admire their enthusiasm, but worry about the hype. Also, the standard "GET AN OUYA" level doesn't have any special kickstarter bonus, and is stated to cost the same as retail... I might have to reduce my pledge and see what actually comes of this. If it fails, I'll save $90 and put it toward a custom-built media center.[/QUOTE]

Since the survey was open to everyone, not just people who kicked in money, I'm not sure how seriously you can interpret the results. I can see people who don't understand what this thing really is buying into the hype, taking the survey, and asking for the latest AAA games on a $100 console.

I would probably buy GTA 3 for it if they ported the android version, since I can't stand touch controls, and also would like to see Leisure suit Larry ported over.
 
Judging by the system specs, I think I can safely say that the Ouya will not be able to support PS2 or Gamecube emulators. I don't understand why anyone would buy an Ouya, besides those fooled by their pretty deceptive marketing strategies, since a normal laptop can do pretty much everything an Ouya can and more.
 
[quote name='Guerrilla']I'm a bit concerned about their games survey. Less than half the games could be considered indie games, while the others are mostly AAA titles from major publishers. I don't mind major publishers (for the most part), but I thought the emphasis here was on indie, hacking and retro gaming? Besides that, and pardon the skepticism, but why are Skyrim and similar system-intensive games listed as suggested games to bring to OUYA? Those would be great goals, but how feasible is it given current system specs?

I admire their enthusiasm, but worry about the hype. Also, the standard "GET AN OUYA" level doesn't have any special kickstarter bonus, and is stated to cost the same as retail... I might have to reduce my pledge and see what actually comes of this. If it fails, I'll save $90 and put it toward a custom-built media center.[/QUOTE]

Ouya's going to be making most of it's money off of it's own storefront. If Squaresoft or Activision wants to put a game on it, turning them away would be like turning away money. Their Indie emphasis was more about how this would be the easiest way for an Indie developer to get their game on a console that hooks up to a TV. Given their competition for that claim is the Wii/360/ps3, it's likely accurate.

And the list...wouldn't be surprising if they just parsed the entries, removed any IP's that are first-party titles for a rival console, and applied some kind of thesaurus to merge entries of the same series. Not much more than a crowdsourced wishlist.
 
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