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[quote name='2Fast']Especially if UT loses. 'Taker puts on a good match when you don't give him a big oaf like Batista to work with.[/QUOTE]

Eh...'takers really picky with guys he'll make look good. I don't understand how he thinks these things through, but while I'd argue that he pretty much made Orton look like a chump during their feud, and Kennedy's doing allright, he made a nobody John Cena (before the rapper gimmick) look like a million bucks several times over. His match last year with Angle shows that, if you put him with a fantastic wrestler, Taker will show you precisely why he is so highly regarded. Speaking of which, has he ever wrestled/feuded with Benoit? I can't think of any extended feud, but I can't help but think surely Benoit's jobbed out to UT before. Seeing what he did with Angle makes me think that a Benoit/UT feud (with Benoit playing the heel, of course) would be a delight to watch unfold.

That's not to say that I think UT needs to be in a different spot right now, because he is helping solidify Kennedy in a top-tier spot.

As for UT/Batista being an ugly match...well, sure. It is Batista, after all. Seeing what UT could (well, couldn't, really) do with guys like Khali, Kamala, and Giant Gonzalez make me cringe at the prospect of an UT/Batista match. It will be a huge seller for the WWE, I'd never argue that it was not a match people wanted to see. From the standpoint of being a good and entertaining wrestling match, my hopes would be very low.
 
Undertaker did a gentleman's job of putting a pre-established star over in the WWE.

I'm talking about DDP, of course.

And I'm being sarcastic as shit.
 
Sounds like one of the worst possible courses of action, IMO, so it's likely they'll do it. I guess they want to give Taker a Rumble win, as checking the wiki he's never won it, but having his streak ended by Batista? If anyone beats UT at Wrestlemania (which, in my opinion, they shouldn't) it should be someone who has a potentially long future in the business. Batista's already pushing 40, I can't see him being the guy that carries the company on charisma alone.
 
[quote name='mykevermin'] Speaking of which, has he ever wrestled/feuded with Benoit? .[/quote]

they had a great feud in s vs r 07!!!!!!!:D
 
[quote name='Brak']I'm talking about DDP, of course.[/QUOTE]

Like I said, I don't get the man's way of figuring out who gets to look good and who gets to job for his wife...but he's sure made more people "famous" (to steal DDP's line) than Triple H, who really only made stars out of Cena and Orton (arguably The Rock, Foley, and Benoit as well, but I'd argue that he did the last 3% of a job that was 97% completed by the time he came on the scene). A hell of a lot more stars than Austin made, for that matter.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Like I said, I don't get the man's way of figuring out who gets to look good and who gets to job for his wife...but he's sure made more people "famous" (to steal DDP's line) than Triple H, who really only made stars out of Cena and Orton (arguably The Rock, Foley, and Benoit as well, but I'd argue that he did the last 3% of a job that was 97% completed by the time he came on the scene). A hell of a lot more stars than Austin made, for that matter.[/QUOTE]
It's true, no doubt.

But I'll never forgive him, or the WWE, for what was done to DDP (and Kanyon).
 
[quote name='Brak']It's true, no doubt.

But I'll never forgive him, or the WWE, for what was done to DDP .[/quote]

But he can make you like you!!!
 
[quote name='Brak']It's true, no doubt.

But I'll never forgive him, or the WWE, for what was done to DDP (and Kanyon).[/QUOTE]

I'd place the blame on the WWE mostly there. Of course, UT is one of those guys who could get away with saying "this storyline direction should be changed" and not end up jobbing to Lance Cade on Heat for three years before being released, so he has some responsibility in the matter.
 
Guile - Vinnie Mac tore BOTH of his quads during his famous Rumble entrance. That was a great botch by Cena & Batista too. For once they could've legitimately had co-winners, and didn't go with it. Why? Cena ended up getting the other title shot anyway, and there were as yet undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Peruvian jungle that knew Batista was going to face HHH.

As for Taker... look back at his Mania matches, especially the more recent matches like the ones with Orton, Flair and HHH, those were damn good matches. I hope they go ahead with the plans for Mania, and Taker wins. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he did win, especially with how *highly* regarded Batista is backstage at this point.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']maybe we will get lucky and mark henry will come back in time to take the title from batista[/QUOTE]

Or even better, Khali will win both the Royal Rumble and MITB causing a 3 way between him, Cena and Batista where he unifies the titles
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Or even better, Khali will win both the Royal Rumble and MITB causing a 3 way between him, Cena and Batista where he unifies the titles[/QUOTE]

Or even better, Mark Henry never comes back again.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Or even better, Khali will win both the Royal Rumble and MITB causing a 3 way between him, Cena and Batista where he unifies the titles[/quote]

i think that just may work..... god i wish we could email creative
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Or even better, Khali will win both the Royal Rumble and MITB causing a 3 way between him, Cena and Batista where he unifies the titles[/QUOTE]

Wait, are you seriously saying Khali should main even Wrestlemania?!?!

I do like the idea of the mitb being immediately used during wrestlemania though...
 
i think the mitb match will have 2 superstars from each raw, sd, and ecw (unless they make it more than 6 ppl).. that would be interesting.. i predict sabu and punk from ecw
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Wait, are you seriously saying Khali should main even Wrestlemania?!?![/QUOTE]

Better yet, he should main event AS champion so Hogan can go over him for the belt.

Sure, it would accomplish nothing and help no one, but since I'm going to BE there it would be cool. It's fun to be selfish.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Better yet, he should main event AS champion so Hogan can go over him for the belt.[/QUOTE]

They need to get the belt back on Bret Hart ASAP so he can lose it to Khali in the main event, and then Hogan can come in and win the belt the way he did at WMIX!

Moreover, while the "Mr. Fuji/Salt throw" backfire won't work, given the WWE's penchant for racial stereotypes, perhaps Daivari can accidentally throw curry powder in Khali's face to setup Hogan's pin!

There, I just booked WM23. WWE, I'll send you my invoice. :lol:
 
[quote name='Brak']I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that'd be a severely lame match.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, and it wouldn't be because of Undertaker.

Oh, and regarding 'Taker-Orton....

Triple H did far more to stop Orton's momentum than Undertaker did. By the time Orton got to Undertaker he had long since been de-balled. The last minute "heel turn on Stacy Keibler" that was supposed to make Orton seem like a dangerous, unpredictable heel right before the Undertaker match at WM came off as more comical than anything.
 
when i used to watch wrestling in the WCW, konnan was my favorite wreslter, especially when he was in the nwo or something...the red one i think
 
[quote name='mykevermin']They need to get the belt back on Bret Hart ASAP so he can lose it to Khali in the main event, and then Hogan can come in and win the belt the way he did at WMIX!

Moreover, while the "Mr. Fuji/Salt throw" backfire won't work, given the WWE's penchant for racial stereotypes, perhaps Daivari can accidentally throw curry powder in Khali's face to setup Hogan's pin!

There, I just booked WM23. WWE, I'll send you my invoice. :lol:[/QUOTE]

:rofl: brilliant!
 
[quote name='swetooth9']when i used to watch wrestling in the WCW, konnan was my favorite wreslter, especially when he was in the nwo or something...the red one i think[/quote]

NWO Wolfpac
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']NWO Wolfpac[/quote]

yea that's the one...that was the shit back in the day...i had like a shirt and everything haha
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Better yet, he should main event AS champion so Hogan can go over him for the belt.

Sure, it would accomplish nothing and help no one, but since I'm going to BE there it would be cool. It's fun to be selfish.[/QUOTE]

Why do that?

Just have Hogan come out after Khali wins the titles and squash him in 20 seconds ala Wrestlemania 9.
 
Yomiuri Sports in Japan announced earlier today that New Japan Pro Wrestling has finally acquired the "super-important foreigner" that NJPW President Simon Inoki promised to fans after the Tokyo Dome show on January 4th. Former Olympic gold medalist, WWE superstar, and current TNA superstar Kurt Angle has been announced as the foreigner and he will make his NJPW debut on February 18th at Sumo Hall as an agreement has been reached between both sides. Possible opponents for Kurt Angle's first match in a Japanese promotions have been narrowed down to former IWGP World Heavyweight Champions Yuji Nagata and Shinsuke Nakamura, although Inoki believes that a tag match will be set up with the Naigai Times suggesting that both men will be involved.

Kurt Angle was scheduled to appear at the January 4th Tokyo Dome show against either Nagata or Nakamura, but due to a scheduling conflict, the match was delayed. Yomiuri Sports also reports that this was part of NJPW making use of its working agreement with TNA which has mostly been used by TNA to use stars like Jushin Liger in their World X Cup. Simon Inoki stated that he hoped this would be the first of many dream matches to come in NJPW's 35th anniversary and he continued to hint at other foreign participation for the February 18th show. He also stated that he has been in negotiations with Kurt Angle and TNA since November and that Angle is very interested in Japanese wrestling, especially former amateur wrestling stars like himself such as Yuji Nagata and Shinsuke Nakamura.
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:drool:

Angle in NJPW? Maybe he does want to die.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']:drool:

Angle in NJPW? Maybe he does want to die.[/QUOTE]

He's not going to make it to 40 at this rate.
 
NJPW is the biggest promotion in Japan, but it's more like the WWE now-a-days, with split brands and Yuke's is the major share holder.

Now if Angle wrestled in NOAH, then he would be in trouble. NOAH is the fastest growing wrestling company today very stiff matches and cross promotions with RoH, KENTA, Kobashi, Misawa, Marufuji, etc.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I honestly will not be sruprised if he literally dies in the ring.[/QUOTE]

I'll honestly be surprised if he doesn't die in the ring.

He seems hellbent on destroying himself.
 
[quote name='Midnite']NJPW is the biggest promotion in Japan, but it's more like the WWE now-a-days, with split brands and Yuke's is the major share holder.

Now if Angle wrestled in NOAH, then he would be in trouble. NOAH is the fastest growing wrestling company today very stiff matches and cross promotions with RoH, KENTA, Kobashi, Misawa, Marufuji, etc.[/QUOTE]

Feh. Marufuji and KENTA are goddamn twigs. I like watching them, but saying they're "stiff" is like calling Batista a technical wrestling genius. Nothing could be farther from the truth, IMO.

I disagree that NJPW is not a stiff promotion. Just because they don't have Kawada and Misawa doesn't mean that they don't have Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Yuji Nagata, Shinsuke Nakamura, and others who are as "snug" as is inaginable without it turning into a real fight. He'd have the best luck with a pro like Masa Chono, who puts on great matches without that kind of "JESUS fuck!" reaction you normally have when you see the kind of brutal stuff Japanese wrestlers do. He's kinda like Bret Hart that way.

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15:00 GONG!
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I honestly will not be sruprised if he literally dies in the ring.[/QUOTE]
Kurt wants to die in the ring, he's said that a few times, and it's scary. New Japan's stiff style will eat him alive, and that seems to be what he wants. Demolition Man, it'll definitely be online ASAP once it airs on TV. Monty is set to make his WWE debut tonight on ECW.
 
The Kurt Angle Story will be one hell of a documentary when they release it after he dies.

I have no clue what goes on inside of his head.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']The Kurt Angle Story will be one hell of a documentary when they release it after he dies.

I have no clue what goes on inside of his head.[/QUOTE]
The general consensus of him in the TNA locker room is that he's fuckin' bizarre.

I guess he's acting as though it's real.

(Quirks like this make me like wrestlers that much more; Mach Mayun, Scott Steiner, etc.)
 
Monty and Bobby lashley on the same show? I would have rather seen Monty go to Raw or Smackdown as a heel, both shows could use more mid/top card heels. Though I would rather see Monty main eventing ECW than Bobby, I absolutely hate Bobby Lashley as champion, though I have to admit that he is getting a little better.
 
[quote name='Matrix2k3']Monty and Bobby lashley on the same show? I would have rather seen Monty go to Raw or Smackdown as a heel, both shows could use more mid/top card heels. Though I would rather see Monty main eventing ECW than Bobby, I absolutely hate Bobby Lashley as champion, though I have to admit that he is getting a little better.[/QUOTE]
I feel bad for Lashley. In the eyes of the "smarks", he's a physical manifestation of WWE force-feeding.

I have no means of watching ECW, but how does the crowd react to Lashley?

I watched the night when he premiered, when they were in the UK, and it seemed as though the crowd loved him.
 
[quote name='swetooth9']yea, i'm behind on the times, but why is everyone leaving for the TNA thing?[/QUOTE]
Because WWE is in a very dark, complacent / stagnant state as a result of having no competition.

Both the WWE and WCW were at their finest when they were neck and neck.

In my opinion, TNA is the great, white hope. A lot of things need to occur to put it in the mainstream, neck and neck with the WWE -- but, as it is, it's a great alternative and something else to watch.

I actually enjoy it more than WWE.
 
[quote name='Brak']I feel bad for Lashley. In the eyes of the "smarks", he's a physical manifestation of WWE force-feeding.

I have no means of watching ECW, but how does the crowd react to Lashley?

I watched the night when he premiered, when they were in the UK, and it seemed as though the crowd loved him.[/QUOTE]

They cheer for him; you have to remember that it's a "WWE" crowd - primarily because people go to the shows to see SmackDown tapings, and also because "ECW fans" probably have a hard enough time stomaching the show on free TV, so there's little chance they'd attend a ECW/SD taping.

He's popular, somewhere above CM Punk, about the same as Sabu, and well below RVD. Of course, RVD is somewhere between the end of his contract and serving pro-wrestling punishment for getting busted with weed *still*, so Lashley is the obvious choice. At least RVD and Punk, unlike Sabu, got to wrestle in the main event at the last PPV.

EDIT: The wrestling sites are saying that
The Untouchables are set to debut on Smackdown tonight!!! This makes SD *that* much better!

I hope that it turns out to be enjoyable.
 
[quote name='swetooth9']yea, i'm behind on the times, but why is everyone leaving for the TNA thing?[/QUOTE]

It's the "cool" thing for the smarks to do now.

Just like hating HHH was back in 2002-2003 and sucking Christian/Matt Hardy's cock in 2005.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It's the "cool" thing for the smarks to do now.

Just like hating HHH was back in 2002-2003 and sucking Christian/Matt Hardy's cock in 2005.[/QUOTE]
Really? That's the reason I like it?
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It's the "cool" thing for the smarks to do now.

Just like hating HHH was back in 2002-2003 and sucking Christian/Matt Hardy's cock in 2005.[/QUOTE]

Maybe we're watching two different WWE programs, but Raw, by and large, is a fucking mess. Same with ECW.

Smackdown is decent, and it's the only WWE show I'll watch if it's on.

All of last year, I just watched Raw just to watch the new episodes of Psych on after it. Once Psych had its season finale I think I stopped watching this shit.
 
[quote name='Brak']Really? That's the reason I like it?[/QUOTE]

Did I specifically point you out?

I meant the idiots that still watch WWE and go "wow this blows but instead of turning it off, I'm still going to watch every week plus go to live events and chant TNA/carry around signs"

Which sadly is a big part of TNA's fanbase.

- edit [quote name='Roufuss']Maybe we're watching two different WWE programs, but Raw, by and large, is a fucking mess. Same with ECW.

Smackdown is decent, and it's the only WWE show I'll watch if it's on.

All of last year, I just watched Raw just to watch the new episodes of Psych on after it. Once Psych had its season finale I think I stopped watching this shit.[/QUOTE]

Hey, I'm not saying it isn't a mess or that TNA isn't better (which is all opinion anyways)

I just hate 90% of TNA's fanbase.
 
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