Madden 11 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-That's all folks! Mini-tourney still coming tho!

[quote name='gregthomas77']Rams and Jags have agreed to a trade:

Jags get:

Donnie Avery WR (81)
1st Round Draft Pick

Rams get:

Justin Durant ROLB (86)
Derek Cox CB (82)[/QUOTE]

This is good to be put through.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Breaking:

In their continued effort to drag themselves out of mediocrity (likely a lost cause at this point), the Chargers have agreed on a blockbuster trade with the Bengals, shipping two starting linebackers out of town in a move to shore up their piss-poor secondary by adding a legit #1 corner.

For review:

Chargers get:
Jonathan Joseph - CB - 94
Rashad Jeanty - LOLB - 75
James Brown - LE - 59

Bengals get:
Stephen Cooper - MLB - 83
Shawne Merriman - ROLB - 82
Josh Reed - WR - 73
Donald Strickland - CB - 66
5th Round Pick[/QUOTE]

I'm less sure about this tbh. Bengals trade away their best corner (they will now have to start someone in the low 70s vs the opposing teams 2nd WR), for a 2-3 point upgrade over the LBs they currently have starting. This would also regulate their newly drafted rookie LB to the bench for aging veterans.

I'm really not one to object too much with a trade, but I don't see why the Bengals would pull the trigger on this one, dealing their best defensive player and upgrading absolutely no where while making their secondary substantially weaker. Reed, Stickland and the pick do nothing to balance it out either as they are all deep depth players. I guess the question is why would the Bengals ever do this deal? I just don't see a reason they would.
 
Also, the Colts are going to be without internet until next week it looks like. So we'll need someone to sub for the next 2 or 3 games. Any takers?

Bengals take note. I believe you're up against the Colts this week.
 
I was also skeptical of the deal but I didn't want to be the first to object since I had been trying to acquire joseph myself. the only part that makes sense to me is cooper and merriman to the bengals to replace the injured rivers and the departed maualuga. with that said, there may still be hope that johnathan joseph will be wearing the purple and black by the end of the deadline
 
[quote name='bvharris']I had some time...

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I'm going to start sending out PMs to open this up today.
 
Rams and Steelers agree to a trade (my last one I think)

Rams Get:
Lawrence Timmons LB (85)
Bensly Blake WR (84)

Steelers get:
Brandon Gibson WR (77)
OJ Atogwe FS (92)
 
[quote name='ubernes']I'm less sure about this tbh. Bengals trade away their best corner (they will now have to start someone in the low 70s vs the opposing teams 2nd WR), for a 2-3 point upgrade over the LBs they currently have starting. This would also regulate their newly drafted rookie LB to the bench for aging veterans.
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This is just wrong. We can discuss the trade as we do, but let's at least get the facts right. Merriman is a ROLB, their rookie is a LOLB, he'll still be starting.

Also, with Rivers out for the season the top ROLB on their depth chart is a 70, so this is a 12 point upgrade, not 2. They have 2 MLBs on their depth chart, a 81 and a 64, so acquiring Cooper is not only an upgrade but allows them to run defensive formations with 2 MLBs (base 3-4, 2-4-5, etc).

So they are getting two players who will play on every down in exchange for one star player, and depth at two other positions.

It's no secret that the Bengals and I are friends, but I brought him into this league and I wouldn't make a trade with him unless I thought we were both getting something out of it. We've discussed it at length and we're both fully on board with the trade.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Also, the Colts are going to be without internet until next week it looks like. So we'll need someone to sub for the next 2 or 3 games. Any takers?
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I'm on a bye next week, so I'll do it, I'm sure Hydro won't mind (other than that I suck at the moment).
 
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[quote name='bvharris']This is just wrong. We can discuss the trade as we do, but let's at least get the facts right. Merriman is a ROLB, their rookie is a LOLB, he'll still be starting.

Also, with Rivers out for the season the top ROLB on their depth chart is a 70, so this is a 12 point upgrade, not 2. They have 2 MLBs on their depth chart, a 81 and a 64, so acquiring Cooper is not only an upgrade but allows them to run defensive formations with 2 MLBs (base 3-4, 2-4-5, etc).

So they are getting two players who will play on every down in exchange for one star player, and depth at two other positions.

It's no secret that the Bengals and I are friends, but I brought him into this league and I wouldn't make a trade with him unless I thought we were both getting something out of it. We've discussed it at length and we're both fully on board with the trade.[/QUOTE]



I don't have an opinion on this trade one way or another, but I found out the hard way that both being on board with it (or discussing it at length for that matter) doesn't really mean much here.
 
I messaged the Browns owner via XBL last night while he was playing Fable III, didn't get a response. Hoping to hear from him before Friday night or else I won't be able to get the game in before Sunday or Sat. night, which is past the deadline.
 
[quote name='bvharris']This is just wrong. We can discuss the trade as we do, but let's at least get the facts right. Merriman is a ROLB, their rookie is a LOLB, he'll still be starting.

Also, with Rivers out for the season the top ROLB on their depth chart is a 70, so this is a 12 point upgrade, not 2. They have 2 MLBs on their depth chart, a 81 and a 64, so acquiring Cooper is not only an upgrade but allows them to run defensive formations with 2 MLBs (base 3-4, 2-4-5, etc).

So they are getting two players who will play on every down in exchange for one star player, and depth at two other positions.

It's no secret that the Bengals and I are friends, but I brought him into this league and I wouldn't make a trade with him unless I thought we were both getting something out of it. We've discussed it at length and we're both fully on board with the trade.[/QUOTE]

I didn't realize Rivers was out for the year so that makes it better. So Merriman replaces Jeanty, Cooper replaces one of the low 70 LBs in 2 MLB sets in exchange for a 22-point drop for Cinci's starting CB. I'm ignoring the 'depth' players because Reed won't even see the field and Stickland becomes the 4th CB until the Bengals pick up a better CB off the waivers and then he becomes meaningless as well.

I think you should also consider that the Bengals are 0-5 right now. It's not like they necessarily need to plug up their LB holes this year. Rivers will be back and then next year he'll have a LB he can't start and a crappy secondary to show for it. I'm not going to necessarily block this deal, but for a struggling team this is not really a move they would make. This feels a lot like the Leinhart deal, but the difference is the Bengals were in the middle of a playoff run then.
 
[quote name='gregthomas77']Rams and Steelers agree to a trade (my last one I think)

Rams Get:
Lawrence Timmons LB (85)
Bensly Blake WR (84)

Steelers get:
Brandon Gibson WR (77)
OJ Atogwe FS (92)[/QUOTE]

I like this deal a lot. Steelers just entered beast mode at the safety position. They trade away their young stud LB in the process and their rookie WR (Rams badly need help at both positions). All-around good for both teams.

I can put both of the Ram trades through now if you would like.
 
Dolphins Trading Block:

HB Ricky Williams (85 OVR)

QB Pat White (69 OVR) - 87 spd,93 Agi,92 Acc, 95 Elusiveness, 91 Throw on the run

LOLB Ahmad Brooks (73 OVR)

LE Phillip Merling (77 OVR)

RE Marquis Douglas (73 OVR)

C Joe Berger (75 OVR)

LG Donald Thomas (76 OVR)
 
[quote name='ubernes']I didn't realize Rivers was out for the year so that makes it better. So Merriman replaces Jeanty, Cooper replaces one of the low 70 LBs in 2 MLB sets in exchange for a 22-point drop for Cinci's starting CB. I'm ignoring the 'depth' players because Reed won't even see the field and Stickland becomes the 4th CB until the Bengals pick up a better CB off the waivers and then he becomes meaningless as well.

I think you should also consider that the Bengals are 0-5 right now. It's not like they necessarily need to plug up their LB holes this year. Rivers will be back and then next year he'll have a LB he can't start and a crappy secondary to show for it. I'm not going to necessarily block this deal, but for a struggling team this is not really a move they would make. This feels a lot like the Leinhart deal, but the difference is the Bengals were in the middle of a playoff run then.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, if we're viewing all OLBs as about the same than Merriman replaces Jeanty, but from a position standpoint he's actually replacing Brandon Johnson. Another factor is that Merriman rates out as a 99 when you play him at DE (which is where I use him a lot) so he won't be useless once Rivers is healthy. We discussed that factor of it as well. Meanwhile Cooper becomes their top MLB (they only have 2 on the roster) and as I said before can allow them to play 3-4 and 2-4-5 sets.

As for Reed, Andre Caldwell is also out for the season so Reed slots in as their 3rd/4th receiver.

It's a fair point about them being 0-5, but I think both of us are looking at it as trading a good deal of depth across the board for one star player. Looking at it from my perspective, yeah I'm gaining a corner but I'm losing half of my starting linebacker corps. With Larry English out another 4 weeks I'm left with Tucker playing ROLB, which also forces me to downgrade at RE where he had been playing. So it's not as if this move isn't without risk for me, the LB position goes from being a major strength for me to a question mark outside of Phillips. On the other side of the coin, the Bengals definitely take a big hit at corner (they still have one elite corner, which is more than most teams have) but get a whole lot stronger and deeper up the middle.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Also, the Colts are going to be without internet until next week it looks like. So we'll need someone to sub for the next 2 or 3 games. Any takers?

Bengals take note. I believe you're up against the Colts this week.[/QUOTE]


I was going to offer to play for the colts (i've got the time).....but they're 3-1....i'd rather they not wind up 3-4 when i got done playing as them;(
 
[quote name='bvharris']Breaking:

In their continued effort to drag themselves out of mediocrity (likely a lost cause at this point), the Chargers have agreed on a blockbuster trade with the Bengals, shipping two starting linebackers out of town in a move to shore up their piss-poor secondary by adding a legit #1 corner.

For review:

Chargers get:
Jonathan Joseph - CB - 94
Rashad Jeanty - LOLB - 75
James Brown - LE - 59

Bengals get:
Stephen Cooper - MLB - 83
Shawne Merriman - ROLB - 82
Josh Reed - WR - 73
Donald Strickland - CB - 66
5th Round Pick[/QUOTE]
No, needs to be modified in my opinion.
Rams Get:
Lawrence Timmons LB (85)
Bensly Blake WR (84)

Steelers get:
Brandon Gibson WR (77)
OJ Atogwe FS (92)
Yes. Atogwe and Troy teamed up is just scary.
 
If you set aside the rest of the players in the deal as the exchange of depth (though as I pointed out Reed will probably see the field quite a bit), the trade is essentially 2 starters (while neither are Madden all-stars, I don't think anyone would contest that Merriman and Cooper are starting-caliber players) for a star. That seems reasonable to me, I think people are just getting caught up in looking at the highest overall rating in the trade. We didn't just slap this together, we discussed several different iterations of this trade before coming up with this one which worked for both of us.
 
Like I said from the start, I'm not going to block it. The 'depth' is silly window dressing imo, but the 2 LBs for the star CB is more or less legit, especially on paper. The heart of my issue is that DBs are probably the single most important part of a defense in Madden 11. LBs are important too, but if you're playing a team like, say the Chargers then they won't even see the field the majority of the snaps.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Like I said from the start, I'm not going to block it. The 'depth' is silly window dressing imo, but the 2 LBs for the star CB is more or less legit, especially on paper. The heart of my issue is that DBs are probably the single most important part of a defense in Madden 11. LBs are important too, but if you're playing a team like, say the Chargers then they won't even see the field the majority of the snaps.[/QUOTE]

That's a good point, though I actually use my OLBs at DE in the dime. Merriman's actually excellent in that role since he can rush the passer or drop back in coverage.

The depth is definitely window dressing, but it's a necessary part of the trade just to make sure I have enough LBs to field a team. :D
 
The two recent Rams deals have been put through. I'll update the OP later.

edit: also if my math is correct the Rams have completed the maximum amount of deals for this season.
 
[quote name='ubernes']The two recent Rams deals have been put through. I'll update the OP later.

edit: also if my math is correct the Rams have completed the maximum amount of deals for this season.[/QUOTE]

I believe you are correct.
 
Chiefs/sprice20/sprice8688 - i left you a PM but have not heard back concerning a time for our game this week. Let me know...
 
[quote name='ubernes']
edit: also if my math is correct the Rams have completed the maximum amount of deals for this season.[/QUOTE]

As have I if this one goes through, assuming both Merriman and Cooper are considered "core"
 
[quote name='Lexxon']I messaged the Browns owner via XBL last night while he was playing Fable III, didn't get a response. Hoping to hear from him before Friday night or else I won't be able to get the game in before Sunday or Sat. night, which is past the deadline.[/QUOTE]

I'll text him and let him know you sent him a msg, he shares his XBL with a friend.
 
[quote name='Darth0fTheDead']
Yes. Atogwe and Troy teamed up is just scary.[/QUOTE]

Very sad to see Timmons go, but I couldn't pass up the chance to have OJ & Troy together.
 
Assuming my trade passes the commish, we'll do it in-game since I've already played my Week 6 game, so it will reflect in the week 7 rosters. I told him to hold off on accepting it officially until we have the go-ahead.
 
[quote name='Zurezo']Very sad to see Timmons go, but I couldn't pass up the chance to have OJ & Troy together.[/QUOTE]

rivaling my safety combo of Ed Reed and LaRon Landry... and the newcomer J.D. Nealy who's taking over for the aging ball hawk
 
[quote name='bvharris']Assuming my trade passes the commish, we'll do it in-game since I've already played my Week 6 game, so it will reflect in the week 7 rosters. I told him to hold off on accepting it officially until we have the go-ahead.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, all set.
 
So if I'm not mistaken, last season didn't you consider 90+ rated players as 2 core players? I thought 80-90ish were 1 core player and 90+ were 2. I might be completely wrong though...just asking cause the Rams traded Steven Jackson and now Atogwe too. I have no problem at all with the trade, I just want to be clear on the rules because I might be trading Steve Smith (rated 91) and could possibly end up trading another 90+ player later too (although I don't have too many of those to play around with).
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']So if I'm not mistaken, last season didn't you consider 90+ rated players as 2 core players? I thought 80-90ish were 1 core player and 90+ were 2. I might be completely wrong though...just asking cause the Rams traded Steven Jackson and now Atogwe too. I have no problem at all with the trade, I just want to be clear on the rules because I might be trading Steve Smith (rated 91) and could possibly end up trading another 90+ player later too (although I don't have too many of those to play around with).[/QUOTE]

I forgot all about that.. All three guys I traded were in the 80s, so it doesn't affect me. I think we can let it slide since the trades have been made already and obviously we all forgot about it if that was the case.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']So if I'm not mistaken, last season didn't you consider 90+ rated players as 2 core players? I thought 80-90ish were 1 core player and 90+ were 2. I might be completely wrong though...just asking cause the Rams traded Steven Jackson and now Atogwe too. I have no problem at all with the trade, I just want to be clear on the rules because I might be trading Steve Smith (rated 91) and could possibly end up trading another 90+ player later too (although I don't have too many of those to play around with).[/QUOTE]

You are correct. What was the limit 4 "core" or 3? If it's 4 then it looks like we're safe. If not, then we'll make it that for now. So 2 stars = 4 core.

Also BV, Colts are open for you.
 
I f*cking hate this game. I lost, that's ok, I am used to it.

But:

1. Contant fumbles. Nonstop fumbles. I am holding the button to cover the ball, but it doesn't matter. Plus my team doesn't recover any of their own fumbles. The Cardinals recovered all of theirs.

2. Cooley fumbles at the 5 going in for a touchdown on the opening drive. Seriously?

3. Next drive, the Cardinals player (don't remember who) breaks 5 tackes on the way to a 90-something yard touchdown.

4. At somepoint early in the game, I checked my depth chart to figure out where my number 1 receiver is (who I just traded for from the Steelers). He is out injured this week. Something that could have been brought to my attention yesterday.

5. Damn Fair Catch Button does not work. I was lucky enough to RUN AWAY from one punt, but got nailed catching another one, and of course, fumbled.

6. Bradford threw a pass 20 YARDS wide directly to Rodgers-Cromatie, who returned it for a touchdown. FML.

7. Hurrying to get a play off in the last second of the game, when you have won by two scores is cool.

8. Also, do we really need to dive into the endzone on every touchdown, regardless of if there is anyone else around?
 
Cardinals - 41 Rams - 28

This game was pretty much a shoot out from the beginning. Rhodes over ran a couple of passes over the middle early and Robinson managed to run it in pretty effortlessly.
Bradford was looking like a stud early on but, as the Arizona offense constantly marched down the field, it got ugly, giving up 3 picks in the 2nd half. Both Austin and Wells had great break out games. Hopefully this rookie can get the Cardinals can finally rise out of it's post-Warner funk and in contention for a WC slot.
 
[quote name='gregthomas77']
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7. Hurrying to get a play off in the last second of the game, when you have won by two scores is cool. ... [/QUOTE]
I did not hurry up. Yes, I hiked it with 10-8 seconds left but, I ran the ball and and always went to the play calling screen to the goal line set the whole last drive ( no funky screens or PA garbage trying to 1up you). You can say that's unsportsmanlike but, by your 2nd drive you were already fully into "madden ball" mode and I really didn't care.

[quote name='gregthomas77']
8. Also, do we really need to dive into the endzone on every touchdown, regardless of if there is anyone else around?[/QUOTE]

I like to see them do the triple spin.

You're probably heated losing to another 0-4 team and probably don't want to hear it from a guy who beat you, but you really need to work on some of the basics. All the stuff you listed is related to what the user hits/jams at those moment. It wasn't just "the madden gods" dicking you over. GG regardless.
 
[quote name='Darth0fTheDead']I did not hurry up. Yes, I hiked it with 10-8 seconds left but, I ran the ball and and always went to the play calling screen to the goal line set the whole last drive ( no funky screens or PA garbage trying to 1up you). You can say that's unsportsmanlike but, by your 2nd drive you were already fully into "madden ball" mode and I really didn't care.[/quote]

I am not calling it unsportsmanlike. But you ran another play with one second left in the game, and I didn't really understand why. But you are right in your comment below this really bothered me less than the outcome of the game overall. I was already pissed by that time, and this relatively little thing was magnified.

What do you mean I was into "madden ball" mode?


I like to see them do the triple spin.

You're probably heated losing to another 0-4 team and probably don't want to hear it from a guy who beat you, but you really need to work on some of the basics. All the stuff you listed is related to what the user hits/jams at those moment. It wasn't just "the madden gods" dicking you over. GG regardless.

I am heated, although it has nothing to do with you being 0-4.

All of it is user hits/jams? I didn't realize you could cause me not to be able to call a fair catch. Or cause my newly traded for player to be injured before he played. Can you teach me those tricks? :)
 
In Greg's defense, I hate it when people do the dive into the endzone every time too, though of course I do it myself in my offline Franchise. The CPU can't feel feelings. :D
 
[quote name='bvharris']In Greg's defense, I hate it when people do the dive into the endzone every time too, though of course I do it myself in my offline Franchise. The CPU can't feel feelings. :D[/QUOTE]

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Vikings 35, Cowboys 31

Sage Rosenfels' return resulted in a second straight Viking Win. Rosenfels completed 13 of 23 Passes for 206 Yards while putting up 3 Touchdowns and 1 Interception. Adrian Peterson had another big game with 13 Rushes for 145 Yards and a Touchdown. Leading Receiver was Percy Harvin with 2 Receptions for 104 Yards and the Game Winning 75 Yard TD. Dallas had one last drive in an attempt to win the game in regulation but it was not meant to be. Vick was stopped 2 Straight before Romo was subbed in and stopped. On 4th down and 8 the Vikings slammed the door shut and preserved a 35-32 Victory.

The injury bug has bitten me, Although I haven't really checked how long my guys are out I know Tulloch went out with Broken Ribs. Then Pat Williams, Chris Hope both went out late in the 4th. Hopefully nothing serious. On another note I'm not really one to complain, especially after a win but I'm kinda pissed off. Dallas chose to go for it on 4th Down at least 3 Times. One was in the 2ND QUARTER and only down a TD. Second was I think 4th and 3 in the 3rd, then another 4th down when he was CLEARLY in FG Range to take the lead (it was a tie game) two of those three drives resulted in a total of 10 Points which never should've been counted. The only one that made sense and seemed fair was when he went for it on 4th and 8 with Game on the line. Had he scored I would've been the one to get fucked over since it ended in a 4 Point Victory.
 
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[quote name='bvharris']In Greg's defense, I hate it when people do the dive into the endzone every time too, though of course I do it myself in my offline Franchise. The CPU can't feel feelings. :D[/QUOTE]

There is no doubt I do it on EVERY touchdown offline. And the truth is, it only really bothers me when I am having a crappy game anyways. If I was up by 30, I would be cheering on his jumping.
 
From the Browns owner via CAG PM:
Quote:

"Hey sorry I didn't get back to you on xbl it must have been my roommate playing. I actually won't be able to play till Sunday cause I am also out of town. sorry for the late notice"

This is after the expected cut-off for week 6. Should we get a sub in/should I play the CPU?
 
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