Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread

Oh boy. Get ready for...

...the religious nutbags calling ME3 a "homosexual simulator." Young men everywhere will be running around wanting to kiss other men!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The thing to me about the whole gay-Shepard discussion is, there was really nothing actually preventing you from role-playing as a gay male Shepard in ME1 and 2. It was just that there didn't happen to be any males on the ship who were interested in a gay relationship with Shepard. It may be a subtle distinction, but being gay =/= actually being in a romantic relationship at any given moment.

That said, I think it's fantastic that people who want to role-play a gay male Shepard will get some options for an actual male-male relationship this time around.
 
why is gay discussion in spoilers? lol not like its a new development especially for Bioware. I remember the HUGE controversy about the sex scene in general in ME1 and for the first time in FOREVER stood up and clapped at the TV when Adam Sessler gave his bit on it.. for those that want to relive its awesome, here ya go!

http://www.g4tv.com/videos/19983/x-play-editorial-fox-news-and-mass-effect/

I have respected the Sess ever since and adore his "go fuck yourself" idiot speeches.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']There's always some butthurt people making comments with broad-sweeping statements like in this article.

I think the review embargo is likely to be Tuesday, though we'll probably see some inking out later Monday evening. Since Europe gets it on the 9th, we won't see any advance reviews from there.[/QUOTE]

I think IGN gets to release theirs on Friday. Their review in progress is up.
 
Well... after getting some clarification on the endings of this game
I'm having a comfortable chair and plenty of fresh popcorn on standby for the delicious drama that will undoubtedly ensue in the coming weeks.
 
Remember when Fox ran that piece about Mass Effect and calling the Xbox the Sex-box? I got an Entertainment Weekly sent to my house a few weeks ago and on the cover was something about Vampire Diaries and there was a chick in her underwear on the freaking cover. It's a family magazine!!! God forbid you get a blue digitized alien ass for 2 seconds out of 50+ hours of gameplay though...

EDIT: here is the cover:

The-Vampire-Diaries-stars-cover-Entertainment-Weekly-02.jpg
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']Well... after getting some clarification on the endings of this game
I'm having a comfortable chair and plenty of fresh popcorn on standby for the delicious drama that will undoubtedly ensue in the coming weeks.
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Based on what little I know of the ending, it seems a lot of people have unrealistic expectations as to how this could be resolved. That doesn't mean it can't be done well though.

[quote name='Javery']Remember when Fox ran that piece about Mass Effect and calling the Xbox the Sex-box? I got an Entertainment Weekly sent to my house a few weeks ago and on the cover was something about Vampire Diaries and there was a chick in her underwear on the freaking cover. It's a family magazine!!! God forbid you get a blue digitized alien ass for 2 seconds out of 50+ hours of gameplay though...

EDIT: here is the cover:

The-Vampire-Diaries-stars-cover-Entertainment-Weekly-02.jpg
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This is a SEX SIMULATOR. Don't you get that?

[quote name='Ryuukishi']http://www.g4tv.com/videos/57518/mass-effect-3-x-play-palaven-exclusive/?quality=hd[/QUOTE]

Nice. Definitely spoilers though. You learn a new main quest task and see some new enemies.
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']This is a SEX SIMULATOR. Don't you get that?[/QUOTE]

I will be forever grateful to that controversy for introducing the terms "sexbox" and "virtual orgasmic rape." Pure gold.

It's called "Mass Effect" and it allows its players - universally male no doubt - to engage in the most realistic sex acts ever conceived. One can custom design the shape, form, bodies, race, hair style, breast size of the images they wish to "engage" and then watch in crystal clear, LCD, 54 inch screen, HD clarity as the video game "persons" hump in every form, format, multiple, gender-oriented possibility they can think of.

..

Then there's the dishonesty behind the game' title. "Mass Effect" sounds like a war game with a deadly virus that is spreading unless the GI-Joes are able to defeat the evil and deadly substance and it's covert war plan.

..

The software for such allows the blending of DVD video, component graphics, and the manipulation of actual pictures so that an alternate reality engulfs the fifteen year old boy playing it without much objection.
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I almost want to play the version of Mass Effect that existed in the religious right's fevered imagination. It sounds nuts!
 
How this game flew under a porn movie studios radar I have no idea.
The title is even a soft ball pitch, "Ass Effect" or "Mass Erect".

A little bit of make up and plastic and you have an Asari, add a gas mask and a rubber hose- Quarian.


"Hey baby, Enkindle THIS."
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']I almost want to play the version of Mass Effect that existed in the religious right's fevered imagination. It sounds nuts![/QUOTE]I'm surprised we haven't seen the porn of Mass Effect XXX - The Parody, like there's been for numerous shows/movies out there.

That version of ME does sound quite a bit more interesting than the one we've played previously? I guess they know the hot coffee mod for ME1 that we weren't privy to.
 
IGN updated their "Review in Progress" with a ton of info on how various systems work, and some new videos. Nothing is an overt plot spoiler but if you want to see things yourself for the first time then stay away. One of the videos is a full tour of the interior of the new Normandy-- very awesome!
 
Cant wait even though I am no where near as deep into the storyline has most here are. What it both awesome and sad is the fact that I have all the decisions from every game up until this point and constantly second guess what is going to happen because of it.

Adding to the problem is the fact that there is no way I can go back and make different decisions in all the games to see what else happens. Youtube it is I guess.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Cant wait even though I am no where near as deep into the storyline has most here are. What it both awesome and sad is the fact that I have all the decisions from every game up until this point and constantly second guess what is going to happen because of it.

Adding to the problem is the fact that there is no way I can go back and make different decisions in all the games to see what else happens. Youtube it is I guess.[/QUOTE]

Think I would consider buying a super version of the Genesis DLC if it contained more indepth options for ME 1&2 choices.
 
This video is a longer and more detailed tour of the new Normandy. Quite a lot that could probably be considered spoiler material, despite what the title says.

Another Normandy walkthrough video

Very minor jokey spoiler:
I was all set to ragequit life if I couldn't have Kelly Chambers back on the ship, but I have to say, her replacement is pretty cute too. And we still have Dr. Chakwas, so at least one crisis averted.

Potentially major spoiler:
Where's Tali?
 
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I think I have to jump in the bunker now too. I've been avoiding spoiler tags for 10 pages now and the very spoilerific details are coming out now. I may even have to stop checking twitter since Casey Hudson has openly mentioned the race of the DLC character in the "From Ashes" pack multiple times.

I'm going to a midnight release to get my copy, taking Tuesday and Wednesday off. I'm going to mostly commit to single player with side missions. Might try out MP if the CAG gang gets together, I'm not sure yet. Just send a message. I'll see you all online.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']This video is a longer and more detailed tour of the new Normandy. Quite a lot that could probably be considered spoiler material, despite what the title says.


I was all set to ragequit life if I couldn't have Kelly Chambers back on the ship, but I have to say, her replacement is pretty cute too. And we still have Dr. Chakwas, so at least one crisis averted.
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Hmmm, so Ashley, Liara James and Garrus are the only combat companions we get consistently? I guess we just meet and/or use Wrex, Mordin and others in passing?
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']
Hmmm, so Ashley, Liara James and Garrus are the only combat companions we get consistently? I guess we just meet and/or use Wrex, Mordin and others in passing?
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Full squadmate list:
Ashley or Kaidan
Liara
James Vega
EDI
Garrus (if he's alive)
Tali (if she's alive)
The Prothean (if you have the DLC)

I had assumed that some of the cameo people, including the ones you mentioned, would be playable squadmates, but only for one mission (like Liara joining you temporarily in the Shadow Broker DLC). But it now seems more like anyone not on the main squad will just be total NPCs, like the cameo people who appeared in the second demo level. Just my guess.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Full squadmate list:
Ashley or Kaidan
Liara
James Vega
EDI
Garrus (if he's alive)
Tali (if she's alive)
The Prothean (if you have the DLC)

I had assumed that some of the cameo people, including the ones you mentioned, would be playable squadmates, but only for one mission (like Liara joining you temporarily in the Shadow Broker DLC). But it now seems more like anyone not on the main squad will just be total NPCs, like the cameo people who appeared in the second demo level. Just my guess.[/QUOTE]

IMO That's disappointing. We only have 1 biotic squadmate (2 if prothean is a biotic)? What happened to the save thane campaign? No krogan squadmate? They just went too far back from the dirty dozen we had in ME2. Obviously there's reason for someone like Wrex to be off uniting clans, but what could someone like Kasumi or Samara be doing that's more important than helping you?
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']
IMO That's disappointing. We only have 1 biotic squadmate (2 if prothean is a biotic)? What happened to the save thane campaign? No krogan squadmate? They just went too far back from the dirty dozen we had in ME2. Obviously there's reason for someone like Wrex to be off uniting clans, but what could someone like Kasumi or Samara be doing that's more important than helping you?
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I'm also somewhat disappointed with
the roster (both because personal favorites like Jack, Miranda, and Thane are missing, and because as you said there doesn't seem to be as much variety as previous games-- no krogan, limited biotic options, etc.). In hindsight, it was inevitable that the ME3 squad would closely resemble the ME1 squad, given how everyone in ME2 can die, but it's distressing to see no one exclusively from ME2 is back, even Miranda who had a celebrity VA and seemed indispensable to the overall story arc. As cool as the suicide mission was, it seems to have painted BioWare into a major corner in terms of where they could head with ME3.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']I'm also somewhat disappointed with
the roster (both because personal favorites like Jack, Miranda, and Thane are missing, and because as you said there doesn't seem to be as much variety as previous games-- no krogan, limited biotic options, etc.). In hindsight, it was inevitable that the ME3 squad would closely resemble the ME1 squad, given how everyone in ME2 can die, but it's distressing to see no one exclusively from ME2 is back, even Miranda who had a celebrity VA and seemed indispensable to the overall story arc. As cool as the suicide mission was, it seems to have painted BioWare into a major corner in terms of where they could head with ME3.
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I'm very disappointed with the squad list if that's it, and I know that's it from an image posted about the Kinect command lists and sequences.

I guess they assumed that most of the people could end up dying in ME2, so there's no reason to write them into the story of ME3. That's a huge fail in my book and shows that they should have taken additional time to do it right, even if some people wouldn't get them because their ME2 squadmates died and can't be in ME3.

I hope they show up in some NPC form, at least, or have something to reference that they died in ME2, so they're not completely tossed under the carpet.

Vega's a new character, Kaiden and Ashley are ME1-only characters, Liara was a NPC for all of ME2 save LoTSB and only for that mission, so the only real ME2 characters in ME3 are Tali and Garrus. EDI was a NPC for obvious reasons in ME2.

Not having Thane, Legion, Miranda, Samara, Jack, Kasumi and Mordin as squadmates in ME3 is a huge mistake. Especially with so many possibilities for enhancing out the characters that we had in ME2. Grunt could be swapped out with Wrex, though we're krogan-less as well without either one. I'm not missing the omission of Jacob or Zaeed, though.

Guess Jessica Chobot's character is an NPC, thankfully, though I'm sure she's on the "can boink" list.
 
[quote name='KrizB']How this game flew under a porn movie studios radar I have no idea.
The title is even a soft ball pitch, "Ass Effect" or "Mass Erect".[/QUOTE]
Speaking of...

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/ADM286441/

MASS EFFECT 3 is a third person RPG/Shooter set in the future. It follows on from the previous instalments and continues the lead character's quest to prevent a large scale alien attack. The player can choose to play the game as an RPG, with decisions presented during dialogue exchanges, as a mixture of RPG elements and shooting sequences, or as a pure shooter with no dialogue interactions. The game was classified '15' for strong language and infrequent strong violence.

The game contains occasional uses of strong language which also appear in the subtitles if that option is enabled. The uses occur during conversation exchanges with the main character. The BBFC's Guidelines at '12A'/'12' state 'The use of strong language (for example, 'fuck') must be infrequent'. The nature of gameplay means that strong language, even if it occurs sporadically in the game, may be heard frequently if the player returns to that point or restarts the level as part of normal play progression.

The violence is generally undetailed and takes place in a futuristic setting. Gun shots cause bloody wounds and there are some images of the aftermath of violence with sight of blood on walls and under bodies. Some alien creatures explode into a mass of red chunks when shot with high impact rounds. The player can also view headshots through a sniper rifle scope.

As with the two previous editions, love scenes can be triggered by a sequence of conversation choices. Depending on what characters the player has assumed, sex can take place between humans and humanoid aliens of both sexes. The sex scenes contain no nudity and no detail of sexual activity.
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[quote name='Ryuukishi'][quote name='KrizB']How this game flew under a porn movie studios radar I have no idea.
The title is even a soft ball pitch, "Ass Effect" or "Mass Erect".[/QUOTE]
Speaking of...

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/ADM286441/

As with the two previous editions, love scenes can be triggered by a sequence of conversation choices. Depending on what characters the player has assumed, sex can take place between humans and humanoid aliens of both sexes. The sex scenes contain no nudity and no detail of sexual activity.
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Suck it, Fox News. :lol:
 
I'm guessing most of the ex-squadmates play major roles. Just because they're not in the squad doesn't mean they aren't going to be essential to the game.
 
Sorta dissapointed I couldent find a place to reserve Mass Effect 3 collectors edition in time. I cant wait to see how Mass Effect 3 unfolds.

If anyone is interested I have a Mass Effect 2 Collectors Edition (360,Mint/Complete), PM if interested, Trade list in signature
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Suck it, Fox News. :lol:[/QUOTE]

fox news is practically propaganda, if not very opinionated news. did fox news have a story on the big floppy purple dildo in saints row 3?
 
[quote name='100xp']fox news is practically propaganda, if not very opinionated news. did fox news have a story on the big floppy purple dildo in saints row 3?[/QUOTE]If they haven't had one about it, I'm sure they will soon.
 
[quote name='100xp']fox news is practically propaganda, if not very opinionated news. did fox news have a story on the big floppy purple dildo in saints row 3?[/QUOTE]
That's the ironic thing... If they were actually interested in doing any (like, 30 minutes' worth) valid research into problematic content in video games, they could easily find things that would be genuinely offensive or controversial to their audience... But their view is so shallow and arbitrary that a game with people getting beaten to death with dildos can hide in plain sight, while PG-rated love scenes in Mass Effect get hysterically trumped up.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']But their view is so shallow and arbitrary that a game with people getting beaten to death with dildos can hide in plain sight.[/QUOTE]

...Or the full on softcore porn Rockstar approved sex scene in Red Dead Redemption that absolutely NO ONE gave a shit about it. Yet Bioware still insists on sucking their collective cock by giving us fully clothed dry humping scenes in a Mature rated game where bodies routinely explode and their remains scatter across the battlefield like parade confetti. :roll:
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']...Or the full on softcore porn Rockstar approved sex scene in Red Dead Redemption that absolutely NO ONE gave a shit about it. Yet Bioware still insists on sucking their collective cock by giving us fully clothed dry humping scenes in a Mature rated game where bodies routinely explode and their remains scatter across the battlefield like parade confetti. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Was it that bad? I kept my Mr. Marston faithful. Lot of good it did him in the end :(
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']Was it that bad? I kept my Mr. Marston faithful. Lot of good it did him in the end :([/QUOTE]

The scene was with that moronic rebel leader and it left absolutely NOTHING to the imagination. You literally opened the door to talk to the dude and there he was banging a topless chick in front of you. No warning, no nothing. Didn't even stop. You had to leave before he'd finish, but apparently it's cool because he just had his fly unzipped and she still had a dress on. :roll:

Makes me wonder how they are going to handle the infamous sex scenes I've heard about in the Witcher. If left intact then that's just going to make the ME situation that much more idiotic.

I hear you on Marston though. At least your friend didn't spoil the ending for you when you simply asked how it was. I still haven't found a way to repay him for that shit. :cry:
 
[quote name='Anexanhume']I totally forgot about that scene. Surprised me too.[/QUOTE]

Same here. I was surprised that media outlets didn't jump on it.
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']Makes me wonder how they are going to handle the infamous sex scenes I've heard about in the Witcher.[/QUOTE]
I did hear that the sex/nudity in Witcher 2 was toned down from the first game. Don't know if that's actually true or not.
 
Yeah my jaw dropped as I didn't think Rockstar had the balls to do it, but I've respected the hell out of them for it ever since. The fact that they do whatever they want whenever they want and usually for the right reasons mind you. Wish other developers would follow suit when it comes to development rather than turning tail, fixing what isn't broken, or searching for new ways to nickle and dime us.

Ugh... and now I just got some of TW2's ending spoiled. Awesome. Btw I hope those spoiler proof bunkers some of you are living in are secure because a metric f*ckton of info is getting spread about the internet due to the drama surrounding the endings. Lots of people are asking for Tali's face reveal as well. I suggest you steer clear of comment boxes everywhere and be careful using Google. It's only going to get worse from here.
 
And remember that scene from The Lost and Dammed DLC for GTA IV, I think that was the only time I've ever seen full frontal male nudity in a video game
 
Remember, folks, death and destruction is fine...well...unless it's of law enforcement officers, because then the game is a "cop killer simulation." But nipples and dicks are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Naughty, naughty, naughty!
 
Liara, Garrus and Ash definitely got the better end of the deal in those pictures, but those visors have got to go. Hopefully there's a toggle. If not, I'll deal with it. LOL @ the new TOS pop up. My damage control sense is tingling.
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']Liara, Garrus and Ash definitely got the better end of the deal in those pictures, but those visors have got to go. Hopefully there's a toggle. If not, I'll deal with it. LOL @ the new TOS pop up. My damage control sense is tingling.[/QUOTE]
There is a toggle. :) There are screenshots from the DLC where Vega is wearing that armor without the visor.
 
Sweet. Thanks Ryu. I'd rather Ash's hotness be embraced and not be obscured on the battlefield during my first playthrough. Unless... those visors come equipped with a wicked damage or squad boost. Then it's mandatory for her to wear them at all times. Stats > Everything Else until I know the game inside and out or I'm playing an open world RPG where the rules change to Style > Everything Else.
 
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