Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread

Glad I got my packs yesterday morning then. The last packs I was able to get 2 of them and thought that you got them for the number of silver and/or gold reaper games you played. Later I read that it was only to be one of each. I wonder if I will get another one this time when they put them back up.

I am starting to get tired of buying packs with credits but I don't want to do the credit exploit. I read on x360a.org in a post that if you buy the recruit pack till you have all from it the veteran pack will not have the commons. If you do the same with the veteran pack then the specter will have no uncommons. The only thing is you will still have the character unlocks but the weapons an and mods for them will be gone. I am trying this now and will know by the weekend how well this works. Has anyone else tried it?
 
[quote name='sendme']Glad I got my packs yesterday morning then. The last packs I was able to get 2 of them and thought that you got them for the number of silver and/or gold reaper games you played. Later I read that it was only to be one of each. I wonder if I will get another one this time when they put them back up.

I am starting to get tired of buying packs with credits but I don't want to do the credit exploit. I read on x360a.org in a post that if you buy the recruit pack till you have all from it the veteran pack will not have the commons. If you do the same with the veteran pack then the specter will have no uncommons. The only thing is you will still have the character unlocks but the weapons an and mods for them will be gone. I am trying this now and will know by the weekend how well this works. Has anyone else tried it?[/QUOTE]

I saw that thread too and its a good idea. I'm doing that now but its slow going as I haven't had much time to play MP lately.
 
BioWare announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut

BioWare has announced the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut, a free download for PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 that addresses the controversial ending of the game.
It provides "additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes" to the ending, and launches this summer.
The Extended Cut is designed to give players "seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes", BioWare said.
BioWare boss Ray Muzyka commented: "We are all incredibly proud of Mass Effect 3 and the work done by Casey Hudson and team.
"Since launch, we have had time to listen to the feedback from our most passionate fans and we are responding. With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team's artistic vision for the end of this story arc in the Mass Effect universe."
Executive producer Casey Hudson added: "We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player."
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What I am hoping for:

1. Definitive answer to whether or not the mass relay explosions destroyed nearby planets
2. Explanation for what the heck was going on with the Normandy at the end
3. Explanation of what the "Shepard breathing" scene means and what happens after
4. General answers to what happens to the important characters in the immediate aftermath of the ending scenes

It sounds like the Indoctrination Theory and/or the hopes that the entire endgame scenario would be reworked are not coming to fruition, and that the existing ending will stand, just with some more clarification and (hopefully) patching up the plot holes. The ending may still be inconsistent and unsatisfying in other ways, but if they can at least get it to make some basic, logical sense, I think I'll be happy with that.
 
I'd honestly just be happy if I got Sandlot paragraphs with freezeframes of each character telling me what happened to them.

"Garrus went on to become a famous wrestler known as the Great Hambino."


I was more or less fine with how shit ended, but I'll never argue with them expanding on things.
 
[quote name='IanKazimer']
"Garrus went on to become a famous wrestler known as the Great Hambino."
[/QUOTE]
"The Calibrator."
 
Well... at least it's free. If these "explanations" aren't up to snuff however then I'm selling my game. A shame because it has the only version of horde I can stomach for more than 1 hour, but it's pointless to keep playing when I'm not comfortable buying any DLC even for longevity's sake. I'm pretty close to taking a break from the mode anyway out of boredom.
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']I'm pretty close to taking a break from the mode anyway out of boredom.[/QUOTE]
I still need like 500 kills for Veteran. Debating whether to play some more multi or just import my "everyone died" ME2 character into ME3 for grins.
 
You might as well do an "EVERYBODY GETS/GOT F*CKING SHOT" playthrough. I still haven't finished mine with my Engineer yet. Tried to earlier this week, realized how pointless it was and headed straight back to MP. Bad enough the game decided not to acknowledge the other saves I had in that profile so none of the DLC counted.
Liara Super Mary Sue'd her way to becoming the SB and both Kasumi and Masani are nowhere to be found.
 
Mine is an Engineer too. It was actually my ME2 Insanity playthrough and I had done the minimum number of missions possible. :lol: Almost nobody was loyal and the only survivors were Zaeed, Grunt, and Jack, presumably because they're so hardcore.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']BioWare announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut[/QUOTE]
Wahoo, glad to see it's free, these are probably the edits that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters decided to cut in the end. Yes yes, people do need to know what happened and screw that speculation theory. Kind of sad to see
the Indoctrination theory probably not becoming reality. I guess this was fan's overwhelming hopes, (I know it was mine). Still fans and I believe that the choices from previous actions all doesn't matter if they're sticking with this ending (that'll have to depend on how varied the extended cut becomes).
I'll see more when I play through it though.

[quote name='IanKazimer']
I'd honestly just be happy if I got Sandlot paragraphs with freezeframes of each character telling me what happened to them.

"Garrus went on to become a famous wrestler known as the Great Hambino."


I was more or less fine with how shit ended, but I'll never argue with them expanding on things.[/QUOTE]

Kudos to Bioware, I know not many other developers out there that would go this route, well maybe a select few lol (I'm thinking of Valve, Bethesda and Gearbox in particular) but yeah I think this is one of the right moves. Seriously though if Bioware did something akin to an Animal House ending like this fan created one, I would be happy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG4EyfXOTJ4

[quote name='Ryuukishi']What I am hoping for:

1. Definitive answer to whether or not the mass relay explosions destroyed nearby planets
2. Explanation for what the heck was going on with the Normandy at the end
3. Explanation of what the "Shepard breathing" scene means and what happens after
4. General answers to what happens to the important characters in the immediate aftermath of the ending scenes

It sounds like the Indoctrination Theory and/or the hopes that the entire endgame scenario would be reworked are not coming to fruition, and that the existing ending will stand, just with some more clarification and (hopefully) patching up the plot holes. The ending may still be inconsistent and unsatisfying in other ways, but if they can at least get it to make some basic, logical sense, I think I'll be happy with that.
[/QUOTE]
As for me I'm def looking for those and
5. Explanation of what that Grandfather telling the son portion of the ending was all about.
also 6. Bioware admitting they trolled everyone with that Tali photoshop, pleaaase!
 
I think the way they're handling the ending DLC is the best way. Further clarification (for free) is probably the only viable solution for them without losing integrity and without further pissing off it's fan base. I do wish it was arriving sooner.
 
[quote name='zewone']I think the way they're handling the ending DLC is the best way. Further clarification (for free) is probably the only viable solution for them without losing integrity and without further pissing off it's fan base. I do wish it was arriving sooner.[/QUOTE]
They lost integrity when they fundamentally altered the story and the player's understanding of the universe by releasing DLC. To me, any change to the ending would be comparable, and in no way a compromise of "artistic integrity." If they're willing to release commercial content that alters the game in such an important way, then they lose the right to claim further edits would be harmful. That's a double standard.

Anyways, this is going to amount to a few extra scenes that had been cut (likely due to reasons of time) added back, and some narrative VO. Nothing too substantial, unless they bring back the main VO cast before summer, and that seems unlikely. Who knows, though.
 
Spy - Yeah... I was about to say Valve and Bethesda wouldn't bat a single eyelash at doing this sort of thing. The latter especially given how well received Broken Steel was for Fallout. Speaking of which... WHERE IS MAH FALLOUT 4 I HAVE MONEYS TO GIVE YOU! D;

Ryu - LOL. Only Grunt and Zaeed survived my Ultra Renegade Sheploo Soldier playthrough. I only did maybe 1 - 2 loyalty missions for XP sake (Miranda still died lulz) and ZERO ship upgrades. It was a damn massacre. I still have NO IDEA how either of those bums survived. I worked so hard trying to kill everyone.

This female version is more Paragade Light but I've still killed or gotten a plenty of characters killed
Tali would have been next
since I don't plan on importing my other profiles. It was so satisfying
screwing Wreav on the Genophage cure.
I did the galaxy a favor. I hated that guy.
 
I am honestly shocked about this. I am cautiously optimistic. It's a step in the right direction, but man, it is going to take a ton of explanation to cover up those massive plot holes introduced by the ending. Since it's due out in the summer, I wonder if these new scenes will be fully voiced. I hope so. Closure for the squad and crew deserves it.

I don't see how they can fully repair the damage done to the themes and the story by the
starchild
, but at least this is better than nothing, I guess. Looking forward to more information in the future.
 
Honestly I don't think they can pull it off, but if they can then I'll gladly support them via DLC. This WILL however be my last ME game regardless of the presentation or genre. Between this and the Retribution novel (which BioWare IMMEDIATELY apologized for due to fan outcry, disregarded it as a non-canon affair and promised there would be a REVISED version released to the public in the future) I won't be taking another gamble on this franchise again. The faith from both a fan/gamer and customer buying a product perspective is gone. Once you've successfully pissed off both I'm done with you.

I'm still not sure how I feel about Dragon Age. I didn't mind the second game that much, but I miss Origins and didn't appreciate how quickly their team bashed fans for hating it. I might check out the third game. I might just call it quits with the company period. *shrug*
 
Guess we're getting the Fallout/Dragon Age ending text with pictures afterall.

Wonder if the outrage would have been just as bad if they did that in the first place?
 
The timing of the announcement amuses me the most, actually. No doubt they've had this planned for a while, but announcing it now they can hope to defuse the worst of the tension that they would've faced at PAX. I'm not sure how well that'll work though.
 
Well,
At least its free. While I wish they had done the "its all a dream" bit with the ending I suppose this could be alright. Hopefully they explain what happened with the mass relays and what happened if you picked Destroy and got Shepard to live.
 
[quote name='JustYourAverageJoe']The timing of the announcement amuses me the most, actually. No doubt they've had this planned for a while, but announcing it now they can hope to defuse the worst of the tension that they would've faced at PAX. I'm not sure how well that'll work though.[/QUOTE]
Yup, I would bet a dollar that any and all questions regarding the ending are quickly shut down with a "Oh, we already made our announcement yesterday, that fully addresses all concerns and answers all questions. Next!"
 
I could give a shit less about the ending. I'm just pissed that no matter how many Spectre packs I buy, I can't unlock a Krogan (in either class) in MP to save my damn life. I've given up and decided to try the BF3 Soldier, which is surprisingly better than I thought it would be.
 
Yup I still have a ME2 import idling in dark space where I initially killed off everyone in my squad (man that was a tough thing to do/shocked me even knowing it would happen). However
having pallet swapped out characters just doesn't motivate me to go through ME3 with the alternate save
.
 
On my Renegade fem Shep character, Jacob was the only squadmate from ME2 who died. I think Marian Hawke is probably better off Forever Alone than with Jacob as a baby daddy, so I call that a win.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Eh Feedback takes on the ending, that's all I have to say about this. I thought they should have talked about
the indoctrination theory (a few second saying it doesn't cover it) (like the endings all showing that there is no hope for humanity - Harbinger telling Shepard to quit now) and/or the more plot holes that weren't discussed
.
http://www.g4tv.com/videos/58021/feedback-mass-effect-3-ending-controversy/[/QUOTE]

Thanks I'll not listen to Feedback this week then. Talking about the ending & not talking about the S.I. Theory would just infuriate me.
 
speaking of packs, i actually havent gotten any of the event packs yet...i know the community ones are on hold until they correct the problem but i'm a bit concerned i didnt get the one for promoting lvl 20's yet.
 
I like their approach to fleshing out the ending. Plus its free (viva la cheapassedness!). My only concern is how this will impact the dlc schedule. I'm already ready for MP dlc like right now and I hope it doesn't push additional story content to the cancel pile like what happened with the DA2 expansion.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']Thanks I'll not listen to Feedback this week then. Talking about the ending & not talking about the S.I. Theory would just infuriate me.[/QUOTE]
It's still worth a listen. It was one of the more civil discussions on the topic, and they avoided mocking people who didn't like the ending. Some good points from both sides.

I still can't believe people believe the Indoctrination theory. Is it really that hard to conceive poor writing can cause enough plot holes for a new thread to weave through? The epilogue seems to imply only deleted scenes and some extra storytelling, not gameplay. If Indoctrination theory was true, I'd expect a lot more substantial ending to follow. Not an epilogue.
 
The thing that gets me about Indoctrination Theory is, if you assume it's true, then we go from a game trilogy with a poorly conceived and written ending to a game trilogy with absolutely no ending at all, in any sense. That's supposed to be better?
 
[quote name='100xp']speaking of packs, i actually havent gotten any of the event packs yet...i know the community ones are on hold until they correct the problem but i'm a bit concerned i didnt get the one for promoting lvl 20's yet.[/QUOTE]

Actually the hold has been placed on both packs. People have reported receiving neither of them or just the one Victory since BioWare had the glitch reported to them. No idea when they'll fix it.
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']Actually the hold has been placed on both packs. People have reported receiving neither of them or just the one Victory since BioWare had the glitch reported to them. No idea when they'll fix it.[/QUOTE]

word. that's fine. sort dat #$% out so I can smack some enemies w/my nu gunz that will no doubt be obsolete after a few more spectre packs.

i got a premium spectre pack last night, no claymore ironically but I did get a some gold card shotgun that I'll never use, a falcon (not bad), and salarian infiltrator...again. Hopefully I broke the cycle and i'll finally get some wpns I want.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']On my Renegade fem Shep character, Jacob was the only squadmate from ME2 who died. I think Marian Hawke is probably better off Forever Alone than with Jacob as a baby daddy, so I call that a win.[/QUOTE]

Haha, you know I was actually looking forward to having drinks with the man on the citadel but you know
the citadel being the catalyst for the crucible and all ruined that.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Haha, you know I was actually looking forward to having drinks with the man on the citadel but you know
the citadel being the catalyst for the crucible and all ruined that.
[/QUOTE]
I still just think it's funny as hell that
Jacob actually dumps a romanced Shepard! I actually kind of admire the sheer audacity of that. But I suspect the real reason was to make people who romanced Jack/Miranda/Thane feel a little better about their situation. "My romance may been a meager afterthought, but at least I didn't get dumped!"
 
[quote name='HydroX']I could give a shit less about the ending. I'm just pissed that no matter how many Spectre packs I buy, I can't unlock a Krogan (in either class) in MP to save my damn life. I've given up and decided to try the BF3 Soldier, which is surprisingly better than I thought it would be.[/QUOTE]

Is the BF3 Soldier the same as the other human soldiers? I have BF3 on the PC so I cant get the BF3 Soldier on my 360.
 
heres what im expecting

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[quote name='praxus07']What's the point of people grinding MP if it doesn't effect the single player conclusion of the game?[/QUOTE]

it's just fun...mindless cooperative fun. grinding is more for a trivial N7 rating but we grind for cR so we can buy packs for better gunz.

[quote name='sendme']Is the BF3 Soldier the same as the other human soldiers? I have BF3 on the PC so I cant get the BF3 Soldier on my 360.[/QUOTE]

the BF3 soldier has carnage (in place of cunni shot
 
[quote name='praxus07']What's the point of people grinding MP if it doesn't effect the single player conclusion of the game?[/QUOTE]

...Because it's fun to play?

Ian - Personally I don't see the point in wasting energy raging any further when we aren't even sure what the explanations entail. Might as well wait and see first.
 
Yeah, I was in the 'Not Upset' camp from the get go, but it's pretty much just me and one buddy at work. Everyone else in the office goes NUTS about this shit.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']A little more info from BioWare. Confirms unambiguously that this DLC is only clarification and epilogue to the existing ending. There will be no different or alternate endings.[/QUOTE]

Gotta respect them for sticking to their artistic vision, though. It takes balls to say "okay we can explain more but it is what it is."

This coming from a guy that still hasn't finished the campaign (stupid adult responsibilities!!). Maybe I'll change my tune once I finally beat it this weekend.

Also, regarding the Datapad app, the galaxy at war section is an addicting little fucker! I've maxed out the upgrades but I still go back to keep my galaxy at war rating up. The post mission email is very cool too.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']Gotta respect them for sticking to their artistic vision, though. It takes balls to say "okay we can explain more but it is what it is."

[/QUOTE]

The artistic vision of ending their game with "buy dlc" messages.
 
[quote name='yankeessuck']The artistic vision of ending their game with "buy dlc" messages.[/QUOTE]

They're giving it away for free thus your argument is void.
 
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